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Veslan
08-04-2017, 09:30 AM
Isn't it just Caucasian HG + Eastern European HG? This would explain Otzi having "Yamnaya" DNA, even if Indo-Europeans didn't migrate to Alps at his time, because he could have simply Caucasian DNA, and this would even correlate well with his y-DNa haplogroup (G2a).
ButlerKing
08-04-2017, 10:09 AM
This Yamyana admixture is still confusing and their Y-DNA doesn't tell us as much. The Yamnaya people are genetically 50% ANE + 50% West Eurasian which means they are partially Mongoloid. However I believe that ANE is only a partially Mongoloid component itself which makes the Yamnaya people 75% Europoid. Perhaps ANE admixture have different variations with west being more european and east being more Mongoloid.
Their isn't a European ethnic group today that has even more 20% ANE admixture.
Fractal
08-04-2017, 10:13 AM
This Yamyana admixture is still confusing and their Y-DNA doesn't tell us as much. The Yamnaya people are genetically 50% ANE + 50% West Eurasian which means they are partially Mongoloid. However I believe that ANE is only a partially Mongoloid component itself which makes the Yamnaya people 75% Europoid. Perhaps ANE admixture have different variations with west being more european and east being more Mongoloid.
Their isn't a European ethnic group today that has even more 20% ANE admixture.
Agreed.
Can you slap around that polak Rethel a bit? He thinks Indians are a combination between Polaks + Neolithic Iranic Camel Jockeys + Indigenous Dravidians.
He's angry because his little polak country is irrelevant while India has 8,000+ years of ancient history and culture behind it.
Pahli
08-04-2017, 10:17 AM
Agreed.
Can you slap around that polak Rethel a bit? He thinks Indians are a combination between Polaks + Neolithic Iranic Camel Jockeys + Indigenous Dravidians.
He's angry because his little polak country is irrelevant while India has 8,000+ years of ancient history and culture behind it.
You are basically; Dominantly Neolithic Iranian + Australoid + little Polish aka Indo-Aryan admixture :laugh:
Fractal
08-04-2017, 10:20 AM
You are basically; Dominantly Neolithic Iranian + Australoid + little Polish aka Indo-Aryan admixture :laugh:
you wish you disgusting filthy iranid camel jockey.
Fractal
08-04-2017, 10:20 AM
FUCK YOUR FILTHY KURDSHIT CAMEL JOCKEY IRANID GRANDPARENTS.
Pahli
08-04-2017, 10:20 AM
you wish you disgusting filthy iranid camel jockey.
Cry about it, this is your genetical composition, without Neolithic Iranians you would still be some Australoid hunter gatherer
ButlerKing
08-04-2017, 10:21 AM
The highest ANE in European is 17%. The Caucasus people have from 14 - 28% with the highest being Legzins who also have mongoloid admixture but properly due to Mongol and Turkic invasions.
Ma'lta boy
" While the skeletal remains of MA-1 have been described as phenotypically East Asian ("Mongolid"), subsequent research has questioned this description. Alexeev (1998, p. 323) in his later publication was more cautious, stating that this area was "inhabited by a population of Mongolid appearance". [6] Genomic study Raghavan et al. (2014) and Fu et al. (2016) found Mal'ta Buret had brown eyes, dark hair and dark skin.[1][7] "
I mean it's clear that their appearance don't match with genetics.
It would be nice to see what a 100% genetically ANE people. I mean Yamnaya people also shows East Eurasian admixture but is not significant.
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/blankmapeurope57nabwr3eh.png
Here is what Yamnaya people look liked.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RJwjsuS0yRM/UiBps5HuzYI/AAAAAAAAOIY/j_uvU4Y2oWM/s1600/Yamna_culture.jpg
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/06/10/18/pg-10-bronze-age-2-v2.jpg
But look at these 1/4 Korean/Chinese/Japanese they don't look any Mongoloid either.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/33/ee/b1/33eeb155a54f4d6efc3f57b4c3e21f3d--chad-michael-murray-michael-okeefe.jpg
https://candacedave.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/no-more-mortgage-0302.jpg
http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/20122005/780625/vik_wa.jpg
Fractal
08-04-2017, 10:24 AM
Cry about it, this is your genetical composition, without Neolithic Iranians you would still be some Australoid hunter gatherer
Indians are not a combination of anyone outside alien racial groups, including Neolithic Iranid camel jockeys.
Your circle jerking on your genetic composition because Kurds have no history, heritage or culture to be proud of themselves.
Pahli
08-04-2017, 10:26 AM
It would be nice to see what a 100% genetically ANE people. I mean Yamnaya people also shows East Eurasian admixture but is not significant.
Mal'ta, Southern Siberia:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 49.96
2 Americas 17.77
3 South_Asia 16.09
4 West_Asia 9.77
5 Siberia 4.13
6 West_Africa 1.7
7 Oceania 0.58
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Aluet 23.97
2 Chuvash 29.25
3 Tatar 29.65
4 Mordovian 31.61
5 Russian 32.72
6 Finnish 34.14
7 Belarusian 35.49
8 Polish 35.53
9 Estonian 35.73
10 Latvian 35.81
11 Lithuanian 36.08
12 Ukrainian 36.8
13 Moldavian 37.98
14 Slovak 38
15 German_North 39.13
16 Swedish 39.26
17 Norwegian 39.26
18 Slovene 39.47
19 Hungarian 40.59
20 Utahn_European 41.05
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.8% Finnish + 22.2% Pima @ 19.87
2 78.5% Finnish + 21.5% Colombian @ 19.99
3 78.5% Finnish + 21.5% Karitiana @ 19.99
4 78.5% Finnish + 21.5% Surui @ 19.99
5 77.9% Finnish + 22.1% Mayan @ 20.01
6 81.8% Aluet + 18.2% UP_Muslim @ 20.13
7 83.5% Aluet + 16.5% Sakilli @ 20.25
8 83.8% Aluet + 16.2% Hakkipikki @ 20.32
9 80.9% Aluet + 19.1% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 20.33
10 83.7% Aluet + 16.3% North_Kannadi @ 20.37
11 84% Aluet + 16% Pulliyar @ 20.37
12 80.8% Aluet + 19.2% Bengali @ 20.41
13 83.2% Aluet + 16.8% Piramalai_Kallars @ 20.43
14 83.1% Aluet + 16.9% Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 20.47
15 83.2% Aluet + 16.8% Velamas @ 20.54
16 83.6% Aluet + 16.4% Kurumba @ 20.54
17 83% Aluet + 17% Gond @ 20.55
18 78.5% Aluet + 21.5% Kashmir_Pandit @ 20.6
19 84.9% Aluet + 15.1% Paniya @ 20.61
20 83.5% Aluet + 16.5% Chenchus @ 20.67
EHG Samara:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 87.67
2 Americas 8.92
3 West_Asia 2.48
4 South_Asia 0.85
5 South_Africa 0.07
6 West_Africa 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Finnish 23.17
2 Latvian 28.38
3 Lithuanian 29.26
4 Estonian 30.59
5 Russian 33.08
6 Polish 33.47
7 Mordovian 35.48
8 Belarusian 37.74
9 Swedish 42.07
10 Ukrainian 43.07
11 Aluet 43.59
12 Norwegian 43.9
13 Chuvash 45.13
14 German_North 45.93
15 Slovak 47.73
16 Tatar 48.53
17 Utahn_European 48.73
18 Irish 49.16
19 Slovene 49.75
20 Orcadian 49.79
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.2% Finnish + 1.8% Karitiana @ 23.05
2 98.2% Finnish + 1.8% Surui @ 23.05
3 98.2% Finnish + 1.8% Colombian @ 23.05
4 98.4% Finnish + 1.6% Pima @ 23.09
5 98.4% Finnish + 1.6% Mayan @ 23.09
6 100% Finnish + 0% Abkhasian @ 23.17
7 100% Finnish + 0% Adygei @ 23.17
8 100% Finnish + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 23.17
9 100% Finnish + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 23.17
10 100% Finnish + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 23.17
11 100% Finnish + 0% African_American @ 23.17
12 100% Finnish + 0% Albanian @ 23.17
13 100% Finnish + 0% Algerian @ 23.17
14 100% Finnish + 0% Altaian @ 23.17
15 100% Finnish + 0% Aluet @ 23.17
16 100% Finnish + 0% Amhara @ 23.17
17 100% Finnish + 0% Anuak @ 23.17
18 100% Finnish + 0% Aricultivator @ 23.17
19 100% Finnish + 0% Armenian @ 23.17
20 100% Finnish + 0% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 23.17
Indians are not a combination of anyone outside alien racial groups, including Neolithic Iranid camel jockeys.
Your circle jerking on your genetic composition because Kurds have no history, heritage or culture to be proud of themselves.
Keep the butthurt flowing you cunt :lol:
Fractal
08-04-2017, 10:33 AM
Keep the butthurt flowing you cunt :lol:
What butthurt? AIT has already been disproven so there is zero evidence for any so-called Aryan invasion of India. Indo-Aryans are indigenous to the subcontinent as is the Vedic culture
ANI has nothing to do with Iranian neolithic farmers.
And lets see what countries have entire chapters devoted to themselves in Ancient World History Textbooks, Kurd-shit-stan or India?
What country has more cultural and civilization achievements, and what's more well known?
ButlerKing
08-04-2017, 10:33 AM
Mal'ta, Southern Siberia:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 49.96
2 Americas 17.77
3 South_Asia 16.09
4 West_Asia 9.77
5 Siberia 4.13
6 West_Africa 1.7
7 Oceania 0.58
Honestly I do't get this stupid ass result. You mean to tell me they are 16.09% related with South Asians populations?
1.7% Black ( 1.7% is not noise ). I mean there was no slave slave trade.
Only 17.17% Amerindian, 4.13% Siberian ?
How do they even correlate ?
Physical anthropology
" While the skeletal remains of MA-1 have been described as phenotypially East Asian ("Mongolid"), subsequent research has questioned this description. Alexeev (1998, p. 323) in his later publication was more cautious, stating that this area was "inhabited by a population of Mongolid appearance". [6] Genomic study Raghavan et al. (2014) and Fu et al. (2016) found Mal'ta Buret had brown eyes, dark hair and dark skin.[1][7] "
Pahli
08-04-2017, 10:38 AM
Honestly I do't get this stupid ass result. You mean to tell me they are 16.09% related with South Asians populations?
1.7% Black ( 1.7% is not African? ). I mean there was no slave slave trade.
17.17% Amerindian, 4.13% Siberian ?
Physical anthropology
" While the skeletal remains of MA-1 have been described as phenotypially East Asian ("Mongolid"), subsequent research has questioned this description. Alexeev (1998, p. 323) in his later publication was more cautious, stating that this area was "inhabited by a population of Mongolid appearance". [6] Genomic study Raghavan et al. (2014) and Fu et al. (2016) found Mal'ta Buret had brown eyes, dark hair and dark skin.[1][7] "
Other ANE results are even more Europe shifted;
AfontovaGora3 + AfontovaGora2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 70.29
2 Americas 17.24
3 West_Asia 11.08
4 South_Asia 1.39
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Finnish 24.84
2 Latvian 27.87
3 Lithuanian 28.52
4 Russian 28.72
5 Estonian 28.98
6 Mordovian 29.51
7 Polish 30.31
8 Aluet 31.18
9 Belarusian 32.79
10 Chuvash 35.57
11 Ukrainian 36.44
12 Tatar 37.33
13 Swedish 37.44
14 Norwegian 38.42
15 German_North 39.42
16 Slovak 39.78
17 Slovene 41.78
18 Utahn_European 42.18
19 Irish 42.42
20 Moldavian 42.47
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86% Finnish + 14% Colombian @ 17.13
2 86% Finnish + 14% Karitiana @ 17.13
3 86% Finnish + 14% Surui @ 17.13
4 85.8% Finnish + 14.2% Pima @ 17.36
5 85.8% Finnish + 14.2% Mayan @ 17.41
6 82.9% Finnish + 17.1% Ecuadorian @ 20.97
7 85.7% Latvian + 14.3% Colombian @ 20.99
8 85.7% Latvian + 14.3% Karitiana @ 20.99
9 85.7% Latvian + 14.3% Surui @ 20.99
10 85.4% Latvian + 14.6% Pima @ 21.1
11 85.6% Latvian + 14.4% Mayan @ 21.3
12 85.6% Lithuanian + 14.4% Surui @ 21.79
13 85.6% Lithuanian + 14.4% Colombian @ 21.79
14 85.6% Lithuanian + 14.4% Karitiana @ 21.79
15 85.4% Lithuanian + 14.6% Pima @ 21.89
16 85.5% Lithuanian + 14.5% Mayan @ 22.09
17 84.2% Finnish + 15.8% Mexican @ 22.16
18 86.1% Estonian + 13.9% Colombian @ 22.97
19 86.1% Estonian + 13.9% Karitiana @ 22.97
20 86.1% Estonian + 13.9% Surui @ 22.97
ButlerKing
08-04-2017, 10:45 AM
Other
I don't understand this complicated genetic make up of Ma'lta which doesn't make any sense.
I mean I can understand if Ma'ta are genetically NE_Europe and West Asia since Central Asia and Europe are inhabited by populations that are very close to Siberia. It' also understand they have 4.13% Siberian being in contact with Mongoloid tribes
Just don't get the part that shows America's South Asia, West Africa, Oceania.
17.07% America's admixture due to what ? you're telling me Amerindians had a back-migration since 20 ,000 years ago?
16.09% South Asian admixture ? how the hell that happened ?
1.7% African and 0.58% Oceania. So they are 2.3% African/Australoid aswell?
Pahli
08-04-2017, 10:49 AM
I don't understand this complicated genetic make up of Ma'lta which doesn't make any sense.
I mean I can understand if Ma'ta are genetically NE_Europe and West Asia since Central Asia and Europe are inhabited by populations that are very close to Siberia. It' also understand they have 4.13% Siberian being in contact with Mongoloid tribes
Just don't get the part that shows America's South Asia, West Africa, Oceania.
17.07% America's admixture due to what ? you're telling me Amerindians had a back-migration since 20 ,000 years ago?
16.09% South Asian admixture ? how the hell that happened ?
1.7% African and 0.58% Oceania. So they are 2.3% African/Australoid aswell?
Those are ancient components, I am not sure why there's South Asian but that's what they have. Mal'ta is over 23000 years old, Amerindians migrated towards America 10000 years later. The areas around Siberia, especially the East, has some Amerindian admixture as well.
Also, Yamnaya seems to have some ANE but not enough for it to be part Mongoloid IMO;
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 60.14
2 West_Asia 28.51
3 South_Asia 4.14
4 SW_Europe 3.55
5 Americas 2.98
6 Siberia 0.63
7 SE_Asia 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Mordovian 25.01
2 Russian 25.68
3 Polish 27.5
4 Latvian 27.83
5 Finnish 27.94
6 Lithuanian 28.23
7 Tatar 28.34
8 Estonian 28.44
9 Belarusian 28.68
10 Chuvash 29.22
11 Ukrainian 29.53
12 Slovak 31.9
13 Aluet 32.03
14 Moldavian 32.5
15 German_North 32.87
16 Swedish 33.21
17 Norwegian 33.52
18 Slovene 33.61
19 Hungarian 34.64
20 Bosnian 35.08
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.9% Finnish + 35.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 16.65
2 69.8% Finnish + 30.2% Makrani @ 16.84
3 69.7% Finnish + 30.3% Balochi @ 16.95
4 66.9% Finnish + 33.1% Pathan @ 16.95
5 70.4% Finnish + 29.6% Brahui @ 17.02
6 66.4% Finnish + 33.6% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 17.06
7 60.9% Finnish + 39.1% Chechen @ 17.14
8 70.3% Finnish + 29.7% Punjabi @ 17.63
9 62.3% Finnish + 37.7% Tadjik @ 17.87
10 66.1% Latvian + 33.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 18.38
11 71.2% Finnish + 28.8% Sindhi @ 18.39
12 70.3% Finnish + 29.7% Kashmir_Pandit @ 18.46
13 68% Latvian + 32% Pathan @ 18.47
14 71% Latvian + 29% Makrani @ 18.51
15 68.9% Finnish + 31.1% Burusho @ 18.52
16 67.7% Latvian + 32.3% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 18.78
17 71.3% Latvian + 28.7% Punjabi @ 18.81
18 65.8% Lithuanian + 34.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 18.88
19 66.4% Finnish + 33.6% Adygei @ 18.9
20 68% Finnish + 32% Dagestan_Azeri @ 18.92
Kamal900
08-04-2017, 10:51 AM
What country has more cultural and civilization achievements, and what's more well known?
Ancient Egypt, Sumerians, Greeks, Romans and the Chinese are the most well known civilizations in the world.
Edit: I forgot about the Persians.
ButlerKing
08-04-2017, 10:54 AM
Those are ancient components, I am not sure why there's South Asian but that's what they have. Mal'ta is over 23000 years old, Amerindians migrated towards America 10000 years later. The areas around Siberia, especially the East, has some Amerindian admixture as well.
Having 16.09% South Asian admixture.... that's the equivalent of one of his parent having 32.18% South Asian DNA. Also the 1.7% West Africa and 0.58% Oceania doesn't make sense. Although they are minor percentage is also the equivalent of one parent having 4.6% African/Oceania admixture.
So if Amerindians evolved 10,000 years later that means they didn't even have the time for themselves to genetically evolve into Armeridians so the how the hell did en up in this 23000 years Mal'ta ? Even this 17.07 Amerindian DNA in Mal'ta would also be the equivalent of parent being 35.4%.
You can also say that one of his parent wasn't a European.
Pahli
08-04-2017, 10:57 AM
Having 16.09% South Asian admixture.... that's the equivalent of one of his parent having 32.18% South Asian DNA. Also the 1.7% West Africa and 0.58% Oceania doesn't make sense. Although they are minor percentage is also the equivalent of one parent having 4.6% African/Oceania admixture.
So if Amerindians evolved 10,000 years later that means they didn't even have the time for themselves to genetically evolve into Armeridians so the how the hell did en up in this 23000 years Mal'ta ? Also that 17.07% Armenian DNA in Mal'ta would also be the equivalent of parent being 35.4%.
You can also say that one of his parent wasn't a European.
We don't know when the Amerindians genetically evolved but it could perhaps be around some time before this Mal'ta boy died, nobody knows.
ButlerKing
08-04-2017, 11:01 AM
We don't know when the Amerindians genetically evolved but it could perhaps be around some time before this Mal'ta boy died, nobody knows.
With those genetic makeup you can pretty much say that one of his parent wasn't a European but a triracial admixture of different races and the funny thing it happened in Siberia ?
I'm suspicious and finding these results as " bullshit " because they don't make sense.
Pahli
08-04-2017, 11:07 AM
With those genetic makeup you can pretty much say that one of his parent wasn't a European but a triracial admixture of different race and the funny thing it happened in Siberia ?
We don't know how they ended up with these components, go look at Kostenki (found in Europe), he is a mix of everything;
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 32.03
2 SW_Europe 17.09
3 South_Asia 13.65
4 West_Asia 9.1
5 SW_Asia 6.84
6 East_Africa 4.77
7 Oceania 4.58
8 Americas 3.86
9 SE_Asia 2.65
10 Siberia 2.55
11 South_Africa 1.71
12 West_Africa 1.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romani 20.87
2 Tatar 21.32
3 Moldavian 21.97
4 Romanian 22.32
5 Serbian 24.24
6 Bulgarian 24.6
7 Bosnian 24.78
8 Montenegrin 25
9 Slovak 25.24
10 Slovene 25.26
11 Macedonian 25.53
12 Croatian 25.85
13 Chuvash 25.93
14 Hungarian 26.04
15 Aluet 26.96
16 Ukrainian 27.61
17 Albanian 27.75
18 Kosovar 27.95
19 German_South 27.96
20 English 28.04
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.4% Slovak + 28.6% Mawasi @ 11.07
2 71.5% Slovene + 28.5% Mawasi @ 11.43
3 75.1% Moldavian + 24.9% Mawasi @ 11.45
4 73.6% Slovak + 26.4% Paniya @ 11.69
5 58.5% Romani + 41.5% Aluet @ 11.85
6 70.6% Slovak + 29.4% Gond @ 11.86
7 73.7% Slovene + 26.3% Paniya @ 12
8 77.2% Moldavian + 22.8% Paniya @ 12.01
9 72.9% Slovak + 27.1% Pulliyar @ 12.02
10 69.4% Ukrainian + 30.6% Mawasi @ 12.11
11 70.7% Slovene + 29.3% Gond @ 12.14
12 72.3% Bosnian + 27.7% Mawasi @ 12.17
13 71% Hungarian + 29% Mawasi @ 12.24
14 73% Slovene + 27% Pulliyar @ 12.34
15 71.3% Croatian + 28.7% Mawasi @ 12.45
16 76.8% Moldavian + 23.2% Pulliyar @ 12.49
17 74.7% Moldavian + 25.3% Gond @ 12.57
18 71.3% Slovak + 28.7% Chenchus @ 12.59
19 74.5% Bosnian + 25.5% Paniya @ 12.6
20 69.3% Romani + 30.7% Finnish @ 12.63 -> Mortimor + 30% Finnish
Fractal
08-04-2017, 11:13 AM
Ancient Egypt, Sumerians, Greeks, Romans and the Chinese are the most well known civilizations in the world.
Edit: I forgot about the Persians.
None of those were advanced as Ancient India. And what about Ancient Kurd-shit-stan?
ButlerKing
08-04-2017, 11:15 AM
We don't know how they ended up with these components, go look at Kostenki (found in Europe), he is a mix of everything;
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 32.03
2 SW_Europe 17.09
3 South_Asia 13.65
4 West_Asia 9.1
5 SW_Asia 6.84
6 East_Africa 4.77
7 Oceania 4.58
8 Americas 3.86
9 SE_Asia 2.65
10 Siberia 2.55
11 South_Africa 1.71
12 West_Africa 1.16
I mean how the hell are we supposed to believe these nonsense genetic admixture that doesn't add up with commonsense?.
It's like saying paleolithic humans were traveling around and engaging interracial marriage with every race they could find.
ButlerKing
08-04-2017, 11:24 AM
Ancient Egypt, Sumerians, Greeks, Romans and the Chinese are the most well known civilizations in the world.
Edit: I forgot about the Persians.
Civilizations worthy
Roman
Greek
Egypt
Sumer
India
Olmec
China
India is superior. Look at the Cambodian civilization, it's influenced by India even although Khmer are even more advance than Indians in terms of architecture technology.
Fractal
08-04-2017, 11:25 AM
Civilizations worthy
Roman
Greek
Egypt
Sumer
India
Olmec
China
India is superior. Look at the Cambodian civilization, it's influenced by India even although Khmer are even more advance than Indians in terms of architecture technology.
Olmecs? please they were savages.
ButlerKing
08-04-2017, 11:35 AM
Olmecs? please they were savages.
I disagree
http://www.watertown.k12.ma.us/cunniff/americanhistorycentral/Graphic_Images/01_First_Americans/06_The_Olmecs/la_venta2.jpg
no savage could have created this
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Olmec/Olmec_6.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Olmec/Olmec_3.jpg
https://img.haikudeck.com/mg/0539A39D-4405-42F8-A282-320344DA6270.jpg
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/olmec-mask-temple-style-face-adorns-side-wall-mayan-site-lamanai-belize-41946277.jpg
Veslan
08-04-2017, 04:22 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RJwjsuS0yRM/UiBps5HuzYI/AAAAAAAAOIY/j_uvU4Y2oWM/s1600/Yamna_culture.jpg
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/06/10/18/pg-10-bronze-age-2-v2.jpg
Look at the first guy's cheek bones - he is definitely Mongoloid (Ladogan?) admixed. But also more Cro-Magnon influenced than a stereotypical Slav tho.
Rethel
08-04-2017, 05:37 PM
Isn't it just Caucasian HG + Eastern European HG? This would explain Otzi having "Yamnaya" DNA, even if Indo-Europeans didn't migrate to Alps at his time, because he could have simply Caucasian DNA, and this would even correlate well with his y-DNa haplogroup (G2a).
Ötzi had EHG admix. Plus some other ANE.
It shows, that Farmers could be IE influenced.
Kelmendasi
08-04-2017, 06:22 PM
None of those were advanced as Ancient India. And what about Ancient Kurd-shit-stan?
Got to disagree man, the Roman empire and ancient Greece were far more advanced than ancient India
ButlerKing
08-05-2017, 12:30 AM
Got to disagree man, the Roman empire and ancient Greece were far more advanced than ancient India
Disagree , Roman empire was a copy of ancient Greece and the Greeks acknowledged India being more advance.
Rethel
08-05-2017, 10:45 AM
Disagree , Roman empire was a copy of ancient Greece and the Greeks acknowledged India being more advance.
If Romania would be a copy of Hellada, then it would
be a conglomerat of city-states in central 1/3 of Italia...
There would be no Roman Law, no legions, no Empire.
The very fact, that Romans were fascinated about the
Greece, doesn;t mean, that they copied them. Not at
all - quite opposite. Maybe even too big input of the
greekness weakened and demoralized Romans in result
destroying the Empire.
Dr. Bambo
08-18-2017, 01:55 AM
Look at the first guy's cheek bones - he is definitely Mongoloid (Ladogan?) admixed. But also more Cro-Magnon influenced than a stereotypical Slav tho.
There is no such thing like Ladogan. It's Coon's straight form the ass phenotype.
SexyLionMan
09-23-2018, 08:49 AM
This individual has looked at various South Asian communities using K7 components for South Asians and besides Jatts and some Afghan Pashtun who had enough WHG to register 30-40% Yamnaya (and forming a continuum of sorts to Tajiks), all other South Asian communities were in the teens or 20s. https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2015/03/yamnaya-related-ancestry-proportions-in.html
Zroota
10-15-2019, 09:43 AM
Want to know too!
Calpurnius
10-15-2019, 01:27 PM
CHG and Anatolia neolithic were quite different, even if G2 nowadays is still strong in the caucasus. I'm inclined to believe at this point that G2a may have been a major Dzudzuana HG lineage. In actuality, Yamnaya is CHG+EHG but also needs some small input from the west, something like ~10% Ukraine farmer for instance works. So that could also explain why a simple 3 population test may detect some Yamnaya in Ötzi.
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