EUtest PCA with users [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 09:51 PM

someone asked me for the PCA of this calculator, and I added many samples :

https://image.ibb.co/eeS7SF/EUtest_pca.png

Pahli

08-07-2017, 09:58 PM

Mine:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WEST_ASIAN 33.77
2 EAST_MED 33.34
3 SOUTH_ASIAN 9.03
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.89
5 EAST_EURO 6.81
6 WEST_MED 4.43
7 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 1.83
8 ATLANTIC 1.81
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.54
10 SOUTH_BALTIC 0.39
11 SIBERIAN 0.14

Sarmatian_Pokrovka:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25
2 EAST_EURO 24.17
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 16.29
4 WEST_ASIAN 15.67
5 ATLANTIC 10.56
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 5.09
7 SIBERIAN 3.22

MysteriousWays

08-07-2017, 10:05 PM

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 29.83
2 WEST_ASIAN 13.83
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 13.67
4 WEST_MED 12.47
5 ATLANTIC 12.35
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.36
7 EAST_EURO 5.62
8 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.28
9 EAST_AFRICAN 1.57

Kelmendasi

08-07-2017, 10:11 PM

SOUTH_BALTIC 12.07
EAST_EURO 3.84
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.95
ATLANTIC 12.44
WEST_MED 21.12
EAST_MED 22.71
WEST_ASIAN 8.61
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.25
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN

Dibran

08-07-2017, 10:12 PM

someone asked me for the PCA of this calculator, and I added many samples :

https://image.ibb.co/eeS7SF/EUtest_pca.png

Could you do my/my fathers kits? Thank you in advance!

Me:

23:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.67
2 WEST_MED 22.96
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.35
4 ATLANTIC 11.61
5 WEST_ASIAN 8.85
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.33
7 EAST_EURO 5.45
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.77

ftDNA:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.68
2 WEST_MED 22.99
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.41
4 ATLANTIC 11.53
5 WEST_ASIAN 8.86
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.3
7 EAST_EURO 5.49
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.73

LivingDNA:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.35
2 WEST_MED 22.5
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.31
4 WEST_ASIAN 12.45
5 ATLANTIC 10.53
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.95
7 EAST_EURO 4.99
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.92

Father:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.71
2 WEST_MED 20.71
3 ATLANTIC 13.93
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.91
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 11.76
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.7
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.08
8 EAST_EURO 4.11
9 SIBERIAN 0.09

Damião de Góis

08-07-2017, 10:12 PM

When you can:

# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 23.67
2 WEST_MED 21.91
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.44
4 EAST_MED 11.66
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.66
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.09
7 EAST_EURO 4.5
8 WEST_ASIAN 4.05
9 EAST_AFRICAN 2.32
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.7

Myanthropologies

08-07-2017, 10:14 PM

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 2.09
EAST_EURO 14.56
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 5.68
ATLANTIC 0.07
WEST_MED -
EAST_MED 12.23
WEST_ASIAN 29.33
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 33.31
EAST_AFRICAN 0.06
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 2.67
WEST_AFRICAN -
Oracle
Oracle-4

Spreadsheet

Thanks in advance

Nilotik

08-07-2017, 10:16 PM

Would be cool if you'd add me too. Thanks in advance :)

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.07
2 WEST_MED 17.75
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.9
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.31
5 ATLANTIC 12.17
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.85
7 EAST_EURO 5.74
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2
9 SIBERIAN 1.21

Freeroostah

08-07-2017, 10:18 PM

Please! :thumb001:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 22.61
2 WEST_MED 16.63
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.27
4 ATLANTIC 11.87
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 11.01
6 WEST_ASIAN 10.68
7 EAST_EURO 8.35
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.58

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:27 PM

Mine:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.13
2 East_Med 31.38
3 South_Asian 9.88
4 Eastern_Euro 6.82
5 Red_Sea 4.89
6 North_Sea 4.46
7 West_Med 3.33
8 Atlantic 2.04
9 Northeast_African 0.55
10 Sub-Saharan 0.34
11 Amerindian 0.18

Sarmatian_Pokrovka:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 28.69
2 Eastern_Euro 23.28
3 Baltic 17.72
4 West_Asian 16.02
5 Atlantic 10.55
6 South_Asian 2.61
7 Amerindian 1.02
8 Siberian 0.1
This is not EUtest..

Pahli

08-07-2017, 10:29 PM

This is not EUtest..

Sorry, got the wrong one, I'll edit the post with the correct ones

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:30 PM

SOUTH_BALTIC 12.07
EAST_EURO 3.84
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.95
ATLANTIC 12.44
WEST_MED 21.12
EAST_MED 22.71
WEST_ASIAN 8.61
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.25
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN

https://image.ibb.co/nR4ScF/kelmendasi.png

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

08-07-2017, 10:33 PM

SOUTH_BALTIC 6.64
EAST_EURO 6.90
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.99
ATLANTIC 21.17
WEST_MED 24.27
EAST_MED 11.22
WEST_ASIAN 3.28
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.90
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 2.22
EAST_ASIAN 0.05
SIBERIAN 0.14
WEST_AFRICAN 0.23

Ylla

08-07-2017, 10:33 PM

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 26.66
2 WEST_MED 19.25
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.83
4 ATLANTIC 11.55
5 WEST_ASIAN 9.8
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.74
7 EAST_EURO 7.12
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.97
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.09

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:36 PM

Could you do my/my fathers kits? Thank you in advance!

Me:

23:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.67
2 WEST_MED 22.96
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.35
4 ATLANTIC 11.61
5 WEST_ASIAN 8.85
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.33
7 EAST_EURO 5.45
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.77

ftDNA:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.68
2 WEST_MED 22.99
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.41
4 ATLANTIC 11.53
5 WEST_ASIAN 8.86
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.3
7 EAST_EURO 5.49
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.73

LivingDNA:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.35
2 WEST_MED 22.5
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.31
4 WEST_ASIAN 12.45
5 ATLANTIC 10.53
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.95
7 EAST_EURO 4.99
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.92

Father:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.71
2 WEST_MED 20.71
3 ATLANTIC 13.93
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.91
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 11.76
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.7
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.08
8 EAST_EURO 4.11
9 SIBERIAN 0.09

https://image.ibb.co/fdBJjv/Dibran.png

Dibran

08-07-2017, 10:38 PM

https://image.ibb.co/fdBJjv/Dibran.png

Thank you!!

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:38 PM

When you can:

# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 23.67
2 WEST_MED 21.91
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.44
4 EAST_MED 11.66
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.66
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.09
7 EAST_EURO 4.5
8 WEST_ASIAN 4.05
9 EAST_AFRICAN 2.32
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.7

https://image.ibb.co/edAuPv/Endovelico.png

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:41 PM

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 2.09
EAST_EURO 14.56
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 5.68
ATLANTIC 0.07
WEST_MED -
EAST_MED 12.23
WEST_ASIAN 29.33
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 33.31
EAST_AFRICAN 0.06
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 2.67
WEST_AFRICAN -
Oracle
Oracle-4

Spreadsheet

Thanks in advance

https://image.ibb.co/giLfWa/myanthro.png

Sikeliot

08-07-2017, 10:41 PM

Here are some Sicilians from different parts. see if you can post them.

Palermo:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.61
2 WEST_MED 17.73
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.97
4 ATLANTIC 11.32
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 10.34
6 WEST_ASIAN 9.15
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 1.84
8 EAST_AFRICAN 1.47
9 SIBERIAN 0.85
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.73

#2:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 31.35
2 WEST_MED 17.29
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.67
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 12.96
5 WEST_ASIAN 11.21
6 ATLANTIC 6.1
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.32
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.64
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.35
10 EAST_EURO 0.12

#3:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.01
2 WEST_MED 15.3
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 14.33
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.44
5 ATLANTIC 10.22
6 WEST_ASIAN 10.1
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 3.92
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.18
9 EAST_EURO 0.7
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.67
11 EAST_AFRICAN 0.13

#4:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.4
2 WEST_MED 16.53
3 ATLANTIC 13.51
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.9
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.11
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 8.15
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.75
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.43
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.21

#5:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.94
2 WEST_MED 16.85
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.71
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 12.65
5 WEST_ASIAN 11.2
6 ATLANTIC 9.97
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.58
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.89
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.22

SE Sicily:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 29.48
2 WEST_MED 19.9
3 ATLANTIC 13.11
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 10.19
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.78
6 WEST_ASIAN 9.26
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.84
8 WEST_AFRICAN 1.83
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.96
10 EAST_EURO 0.43
11 SIBERIAN 0.23

#2:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.92
2 WEST_MED 15.95
3 ATLANTIC 13.46
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.6
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.69
6 WEST_ASIAN 8.59
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.49
8 EAST_EURO 1.94
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.7
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.48
11 SIBERIAN 0.16

#3:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 27.72
2 WEST_MED 19.48
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.91
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.79
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.77
6 ATLANTIC 7.95
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.44
8 WEST_AFRICAN 2.21
9 EAST_EURO 2.2
10 EAST_AFRICAN 1.53
11 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.01

#4:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.48
2 WEST_MED 18.33
3 WEST_ASIAN 11.73
4 ATLANTIC 10.35
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 9.95
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 8.31
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 7.57
8 EAST_EURO 2.28
9 EAST_AFRICAN 1

#5:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.1
2 WEST_MED 20.38
3 ATLANTIC 14.26
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.5
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.9
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.74
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.9
8 EAST_EURO 1.29
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.73
10 SIBERIAN 0.73
11 EAST_ASIAN 0.34
12 WEST_AFRICAN 0.14

Agrigento:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 31.47
2 WEST_MED 17.79
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.59
4 WEST_ASIAN 11.2
5 ATLANTIC 9.2
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.03
7 EAST_EURO 4.46
8 SOUTH_BALTIC 3.28
9 WEST_AFRICAN 1.16
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.83

#2:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 31.31
2 WEST_MED 16.05
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 12.19
4 WEST_ASIAN 11.15
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.87
6 ATLANTIC 9.53
7 EAST_EURO 4.97
8 SOUTH_BALTIC 1.68
9 WEST_AFRICAN 1.15
10 EAST_AFRICAN 1.1

Messina:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.89
2 WEST_MED 17.36
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 13.56
4 WEST_ASIAN 10.24
5 ATLANTIC 9.78
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.95
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.93
8 EAST_EURO 1.2
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.47
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.43
11 EAST_ASIAN 0.19

#2:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.97
2 WEST_MED 17.71
3 ATLANTIC 13.31
4 WEST_ASIAN 12.52
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.76
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 6.1
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.71
8 EAST_AFRICAN 1.52
9 EAST_EURO 1.07
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.33

Caltanissetta:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 26.05
2 WEST_MED 18.38
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 13.99
4 WEST_ASIAN 13.26
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.28
6 ATLANTIC 9.69
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.45
8 EAST_AFRICAN 1.31
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.42
10 EAST_ASIAN 0.15

Pahli

08-07-2017, 10:42 PM

Mine:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WEST_ASIAN 33.77
2 EAST_MED 33.34
3 SOUTH_ASIAN 9.03
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.89
5 EAST_EURO 6.81
6 WEST_MED 4.43
7 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 1.83
8 ATLANTIC 1.81
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.54
10 SOUTH_BALTIC 0.39
11 SIBERIAN 0.14

Sarmatian_Pokrovka:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25
2 EAST_EURO 24.17
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 16.29
4 WEST_ASIAN 15.67
5 ATLANTIC 10.56
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 5.09
7 SIBERIAN 3.22

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:43 PM

Would be cool if you'd add me too. Thanks in advance :)

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.07
2 WEST_MED 17.75
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.9
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.31
5 ATLANTIC 12.17
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.85
7 EAST_EURO 5.74
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2
9 SIBERIAN 1.21

https://image.ibb.co/n4jDjv/Nilotik.png

Ylla

08-07-2017, 10:43 PM

What is middle eastern where does it peak ?

Pahli

08-07-2017, 10:45 PM

What is middle eastern where does it peak ?

Among Bedouins, they have 58%, its probably related to Natufians.

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:45 PM

Please! :thumb001:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 22.61
2 WEST_MED 16.63
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.27
4 ATLANTIC 11.87
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 11.01
6 WEST_ASIAN 10.68
7 EAST_EURO 8.35
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.58

https://image.ibb.co/ic9JHF/Freeroostah.png

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:48 PM

SOUTH_BALTIC 6.64
EAST_EURO 6.90
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.99
ATLANTIC 21.17
WEST_MED 24.27
EAST_MED 11.22
WEST_ASIAN 3.28
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.90
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 2.22
EAST_ASIAN 0.05
SIBERIAN 0.14
WEST_AFRICAN 0.23

https://image.ibb.co/fJVKPv/Viriato.png

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

08-07-2017, 10:49 PM

Viriato.png

https://i.imgflip.com/1tqc53.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/1tqc53)

Dibran

08-07-2017, 10:50 PM

Would be cool if you'd add me too. Thanks in advance :)

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.07
2 WEST_MED 17.75
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.9
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.31
5 ATLANTIC 12.17
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.85
7 EAST_EURO 5.74
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2
9 SIBERIAN 1.21

You plot closest to the Albania/Kosova average from anyone I have seen.

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:50 PM

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 26.66
2 WEST_MED 19.25
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.83
4 ATLANTIC 11.55
5 WEST_ASIAN 9.8
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.74
7 EAST_EURO 7.12
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.97
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.09

https://image.ibb.co/iV1XcF/Ylla.png

Nilotik

08-07-2017, 10:51 PM

You plot closest to the Albania/Kosova average from anyone I have seen.

Didn't know that :D
That's cool!!!

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:53 PM

Among Bedouins, they have 58%, its probably related to Natufians.
Indeed it peaks in Natufian with 69%

Dibran

08-07-2017, 10:53 PM

https://image.ibb.co/iV1XcF/Ylla.png

Could you please do my Albanian friend from Montenegro?

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 19.57
2 WEST_MED 18.51
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.87
4 ATLANTIC 12.6
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.78
6 WEST_ASIAN 11.47
7 EAST_EURO 8.26
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.94

Dibran

08-07-2017, 10:54 PM

Didn't know that :D
That's cool!!!

Yea, I usually inbetween Albanian Greek and Tuscan. I think its my atypical Neolithic result. Including my fathers.

Dibran

08-07-2017, 10:55 PM

What is middle eastern where does it peak ?

We plot pretty closely in a lot of calculators. Where in Albania/Kosova you from?

Kelmendasi

08-07-2017, 10:57 PM

Yea, I usually inbetween Albanian Greek and Tuscan. I think its my atypical Neolithic result. Including my fathers.
Yh could be but you also are more west shifted like me but idk what is the source for this maybe WHG, EEF idk

Nilotik

08-07-2017, 10:57 PM

Yea, I usually inbetween Albanian Greek and Tuscan. I think its my atypical Neolithic result. Including my fathers.

I see. Are your results typical for people from Dibra. Is there even anything genetically peculiar amongst you guys? I usually cluster closer to Bulgarians than Greeks, unlike many other Albanians who seem to plot the other way around.

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 10:59 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/cmBR4v/Pahli.png

Kelmendasi

08-07-2017, 11:01 PM

I see. Are your results typical for people from Dibra. Is there even anything genetically peculiar amongst you guys? I usually cluster closer to Bulgarians than Greeks, unlike many other Albanians who seem to plot the other way around.
I think people from Dibra are more EEF admixed as they seem to score more of it and I have slightly more than average which I believe is from my maternal side which is from Dibra although I do have slightly more WHG probably from my fathers side who are Malsor. I tend to plot north of Tuscans but west of Albanians

Dibran

08-07-2017, 11:02 PM

I see. Are your results typical for people from Dibra. Is there even anything genetically peculiar amongst you guys? I usually cluster closer to Bulgarians than Greeks, unlike many other Albanians who seem to plot the other way around.

I am not sure. My father is from Okshtuni Vogel which is an isolated distruct of Okshtuni. He claims our family came from Mirdita and settled there for the last 3-400 years. I know Kelmendasi also shifts with his neolithic as well, and I believe his mother is from or near my fathers village. So, maybe its something about Diber genetics. Though, outside me and my father, I do not know any other dibran testers. Our IT component in K36 is extremely high for us,. Higher than that of Italians too. This shifts us towards Sardinia, Tuscany etc. My fathers IT component is almost 36, and mine almost 32. The mean for Albania is like 22-24 I believe, and for Italy like 24-28. As a result(and Italians possessing the highest mean average) it shifts us towards Tuscans.

Ylla

08-07-2017, 11:03 PM

We plot pretty closely in a lot of calculators. Where in Albania/Kosova you from?

I'm from Prizren mostly

Dibran

08-07-2017, 11:04 PM

I'm from Prizren mostly

My moms mother is from Gjakov. They also have family in Prizren from her mothers side. Interesting.

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 11:04 PM

Could you please do my Albanian friend from Montenegro?

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 19.57
2 WEST_MED 18.51
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.87
4 ATLANTIC 12.6
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.78
6 WEST_ASIAN 11.47
7 EAST_EURO 8.26
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.94

https://image.ibb.co/mhrnBa/friend.png

Nilotik

08-07-2017, 11:05 PM

Very cool Dibran & Kelmendasi! Looks like the Dibra region is quite unique in that regard and worth researching further.

Kelmendasi

08-07-2017, 11:06 PM

[IM]https://image.ibb.co/mhrnBa/friend.png[/IMG]
As expected, Montenegrin Albos are even more northern than Kosovar Albos

MysteriousWays

08-07-2017, 11:06 PM

Ibericus, would it be possible to get mine as well? It is on page 1, but I had to edit it as I put the wrong test in previously. Thanks.

Dibran

08-07-2017, 11:06 PM

https://image.ibb.co/mhrnBa/friend.png

I suppose this makes sense? Being hes from Montenegro so he would plot north?

Kelmendasi

08-07-2017, 11:09 PM

I suppose this makes sense? Being hes from Montenegro so he would plot north?
Yh Montenegrin Albs are the most northern plotting

Coolguy1

08-07-2017, 11:13 PM

1 EAST_MED 29.65
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.99
3 WEST_MED 13.35
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 10.3
5 ATLANTIC 9.93
6 WEST_ASIAN 8.61
7 EAST_EURO 7.77
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.39

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 11:35 PM

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 29.83
2 WEST_ASIAN 13.83
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 13.67
4 WEST_MED 12.47
5 ATLANTIC 12.35
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.36
7 EAST_EURO 5.62
8 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.28
9 EAST_AFRICAN 1.57

https://image.ibb.co/hZxkWa/misterious.png

Ibericus

08-07-2017, 11:38 PM

1 EAST_MED 29.65
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.99
3 WEST_MED 13.35
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 10.3
5 ATLANTIC 9.93
6 WEST_ASIAN 8.61
7 EAST_EURO 7.77
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.39

https://image.ibb.co/jPzccF/sorcelow.png

Sikeliot

08-07-2017, 11:39 PM

I'll be curious to see where the Sicilians plot that I posted. Probably all over.

Kriptc06

08-07-2017, 11:44 PM

please add me, and mi abuela
yo
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 17.34
2 WEST_MED 14.45
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.55
4 EAST_EURO 9.13
5 WEST_AFRICAN 8.94
6 EAST_MED 8.58
7 SIBERIAN 5.98
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.94
9 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.8
10 WEST_ASIAN 4.15
11 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.61
12 EAST_ASIAN 2.2
13 EAST_AFRICAN 1.35

Ella
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 19.61
2 WEST_AFRICAN 17.26
3 WEST_MED 13.1
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.92
5 SIBERIAN 7.54
6 EAST_MED 7.03
7 EAST_EURO 4.74
8 EAST_AFRICAN 4.47
9 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.09
10 MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.07
11 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.18
12 EAST_ASIAN 2.36
13 WEST_ASIAN 1.62

Coolguy1

08-07-2017, 11:44 PM

Can you also make a puntdnal k12 modern thread and pca?

alnortedelsur

08-07-2017, 11:44 PM

Do mine as well, please...

With my 23AndMe kit:

SOUTH_BALTIC 6.70
EAST_EURO 5.93
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.18
ATLANTIC 22.56
WEST_MED 16.73
EAST_MED 12.33
WEST_ASIAN 3.63
MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.18
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 1.47
EAST_ASIAN 1.47
SIBERIAN 3.19
WEST_AFRICAN 4.63

With my Ancestry DNA kit:

SOUTH_BALTIC 7.01
EAST_EURO 5.49
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.71
ATLANTIC 21.76
WEST_MED 17.29
EAST_MED 12.58
WEST_ASIAN 4.59
MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.82
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 1.34
EAST_ASIAN 1.37
SIBERIAN 3.51
WEST_AFRICAN 4.53

MysteriousWays

08-07-2017, 11:47 PM

https://image.ibb.co/hZxkWa/misterious.png

Interesting. Bit of an unusual positioning.

Journeyman26

08-08-2017, 12:56 AM

Wouldn't mind being added

1 EAST_MED 27.77
2 WEST_MED 17.38
3 ATLANTIC 14.98
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.07
5 WEST_ASIAN 12.2
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.68
7 EAST_EURO 4.14
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.69
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.1

ChocolateFace

08-08-2017, 04:18 AM

May you do mine also? Thank you.

SOUTH_BALTIC 12.74
EAST_EURO 8.03
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.05
ATLANTIC 14.08
WEST_MED 16.86
EAST_MED 18.22
WEST_ASIAN 8.37
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.53
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.11

Coolguy1

08-08-2017, 04:49 AM

Can you plot these please

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 36.99
2 WEST_MED 24.45
3 ATLANTIC 13.94
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.34
5 WEST_ASIAN 6.35
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.92

# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 24.56
2 EAST_MED 22.52
3 WEST_MED 21.69
4 ATLANTIC 19.2
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.86
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.18

SOUTH_BALTIC 12.50
EAST_EURO 27.44
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.24
ATLANTIC 13.67
WEST_MED -
EAST_MED -
WEST_ASIAN 18.28
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 6.08
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 1.60
SIBERIAN 6.18
WEST_AFRICAN -
Oracle
Oracle-4

SOUTH_BALTIC -
EAST_EURO -
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.80
ATLANTIC 16.50
WEST_MED 37.53
EAST_MED 33.64
WEST_ASIAN -
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.54
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -

SOUTH_BALTIC -
EAST_EURO -
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.57
ATLANTIC 8.05
WEST_MED 30.83
EAST_MED 38.53
WEST_ASIAN 10.94
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.05

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 10:10 AM

I'll be curious to see where the Sicilians plot that I posted. Probably all over.
give me a rep at least :

https://image.ibb.co/ksCBMa/sikeliot.png

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 10:13 AM

Wouldn't mind being added

1 EAST_MED 27.77
2 WEST_MED 17.38
3 ATLANTIC 14.98
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.07
5 WEST_ASIAN 12.2
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.68
7 EAST_EURO 4.14
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.69
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.1

https://image.ibb.co/jfPK7F/journeyman.png

Pahli

08-08-2017, 10:15 AM

Sintashta:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 27.2
2 SOUTH_BALTIC 22.59
3 EAST_EURO 21.88
4 ATLANTIC 17.65
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.08
6 WEST_AFRICAN 0.6

Andronovo:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_EURO 25.94
2 ATLANTIC 22.25
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 19.48
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 16.01
5 WEST_ASIAN 9.63
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 5.09
7 SIBERIAN 1.31
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.29

Iran Mesolithic:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WEST_ASIAN 42.71
2 EAST_MED 27.79
3 SOUTH_ASIAN 20.71
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.16
5 EAST_EURO 3.63

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 10:17 AM

please add me, and mi abuela
yo
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 17.34
2 WEST_MED 14.45
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.55
4 EAST_EURO 9.13
5 WEST_AFRICAN 8.94
6 EAST_MED 8.58
7 SIBERIAN 5.98
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.94
9 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.8
10 WEST_ASIAN 4.15
11 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.61
12 EAST_ASIAN 2.2
13 EAST_AFRICAN 1.35

Ella
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 19.61
2 WEST_AFRICAN 17.26
3 WEST_MED 13.1
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.92
5 SIBERIAN 7.54
6 EAST_MED 7.03
7 EAST_EURO 4.74
8 EAST_AFRICAN 4.47
9 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.09
10 MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.07
11 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.18
12 EAST_ASIAN 2.36
13 WEST_ASIAN 1.62

https://image.ibb.co/gaLCuv/Penta_Dragon.png

Kamal900

08-08-2017, 10:22 AM

Do mine, please:
EUtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 39.36
2 MIDDLE_EASTERN 21.15
3 WEST_ASIAN 17.35
4 WEST_MED 10.07
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 3.63
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.07
7 EAST_AFRICAN 2.51
8 ATLANTIC 1.75

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 10:33 AM

Do mine as well, please...

With my 23AndMe kit:

SOUTH_BALTIC 6.70
EAST_EURO 5.93
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.18
ATLANTIC 22.56
WEST_MED 16.73
EAST_MED 12.33
WEST_ASIAN 3.63
MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.18
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 1.47
EAST_ASIAN 1.47
SIBERIAN 3.19
WEST_AFRICAN 4.63

With my Ancestry DNA kit:

SOUTH_BALTIC 7.01
EAST_EURO 5.49
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.71
ATLANTIC 21.76
WEST_MED 17.29
EAST_MED 12.58
WEST_ASIAN 4.59
MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.82
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 1.34
EAST_ASIAN 1.37
SIBERIAN 3.51
WEST_AFRICAN 4.53

https://image.ibb.co/k1V97F/alnorte.png

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 10:37 AM

Do mine, please:
EUtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 39.36
2 MIDDLE_EASTERN 21.15
3 WEST_ASIAN 17.35
4 WEST_MED 10.07
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 3.63
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.07
7 EAST_AFRICAN 2.51
8 ATLANTIC 1.75

https://image.ibb.co/dvH31a/gilgamesh.png

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 10:38 AM

May you do mine also? Thank you.

SOUTH_BALTIC 12.74
EAST_EURO 8.03
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.05
ATLANTIC 14.08
WEST_MED 16.86
EAST_MED 18.22
WEST_ASIAN 8.37
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.53
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.11

https://image.ibb.co/bKmrnF/chocolateface.png

Gangrel

08-08-2017, 10:44 AM

Do mine pls

1 WEST_ASIAN 32.68
2 EAST_MED 31.56
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.74
4 EAST_EURO 6.83
5 ATLANTIC 4.51
6 SIBERIAN 4.28
7 WEST_MED 4
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.92
9 SOUTH_BALTIC 1.85
10 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 1.18
11 WEST_AFRICAN 0.44

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 10:45 AM

Can you plot these please

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 36.99
2 WEST_MED 24.45
3 ATLANTIC 13.94
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.34
5 WEST_ASIAN 6.35
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.92

# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 24.56
2 EAST_MED 22.52
3 WEST_MED 21.69
4 ATLANTIC 19.2
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.86
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.18

SOUTH_BALTIC 12.50
EAST_EURO 27.44
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.24
ATLANTIC 13.67
WEST_MED -
EAST_MED -
WEST_ASIAN 18.28
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 6.08
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 1.60
SIBERIAN 6.18
WEST_AFRICAN -
Oracle
Oracle-4

SOUTH_BALTIC -
EAST_EURO -
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.80
ATLANTIC 16.50
WEST_MED 37.53
EAST_MED 33.64
WEST_ASIAN -
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.54
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -

SOUTH_BALTIC -
EAST_EURO -
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.57
ATLANTIC 8.05
WEST_MED 30.83
EAST_MED 38.53
WEST_ASIAN 10.94
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.05

https://image.ibb.co/kzOt1a/sorcelow.png

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 10:47 AM

Do mine pls

1 WEST_ASIAN 32.68
2 EAST_MED 31.56
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.74
4 EAST_EURO 6.83
5 ATLANTIC 4.51
6 SIBERIAN 4.28
7 WEST_MED 4
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.92
9 SOUTH_BALTIC 1.85
10 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 1.18
11 WEST_AFRICAN 0.44

https://image.ibb.co/kOcLga/eggyolk.png

Gangrel

08-08-2017, 10:49 AM

ty babe

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 10:50 AM

Sintashta:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 27.2
2 SOUTH_BALTIC 22.59
3 EAST_EURO 21.88
4 ATLANTIC 17.65
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.08
6 WEST_AFRICAN 0.6

Andronovo:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_EURO 25.94
2 ATLANTIC 22.25
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 19.48
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 16.01
5 WEST_ASIAN 9.63
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 5.09
7 SIBERIAN 1.31
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.29

Iran Mesolithic:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WEST_ASIAN 42.71
2 EAST_MED 27.79
3 SOUTH_ASIAN 20.71
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.16
5 EAST_EURO 3.63

https://image.ibb.co/gXTXuv/pahli.png

The Illyrian Warrior

08-08-2017, 11:03 AM

Do me.

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 11.56
EAST_EURO 4.89
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.05
ATLANTIC 13.36
WEST_MED 16.24
EAST_MED 24.81
WEST_ASIAN 10.11
MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.78
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.18
WEST_AFRICAN

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 11:09 AM

Do me.

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 11.56
EAST_EURO 4.89
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.05
ATLANTIC 13.36
WEST_MED 16.24
EAST_MED 24.81
WEST_ASIAN 10.11
MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.78
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.18
WEST_AFRICAN

https://image.ibb.co/cdte7F/illyrian.png

firemonkey

08-08-2017, 11:12 AM

Can you do mine please?

1 ATLANTIC 30.61
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 29.47
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.66
4 EAST_EURO 10.7
5 WEST_MED 9.79
6 WEST_ASIAN 4.14
7 EAST_MED 1.44
8 EAST_AFRICAN 0.93
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.27

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 11:26 AM

Can you do mine please?

1 ATLANTIC 30.61
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 29.47
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.66
4 EAST_EURO 10.7
5 WEST_MED 9.79
6 WEST_ASIAN 4.14
7 EAST_MED 1.44
8 EAST_AFRICAN 0.93
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.27

https://image.ibb.co/jEVO1a/fire.png

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 11:44 AM

Can you also make a puntdnal k12 modern thread and pca?
ok I will do it next week, because I also want to add some samples.

Sikeliot

08-08-2017, 11:49 AM

give me a rep at least :

https://image.ibb.co/ksCBMa/sikeliot.png

Can you add North Africa to the same plot above where the Sicilians are? I suspect some are drifting toward it.

Anyway it is clear that Palermo/Messina/Agrigento are Cretan and Dodecanese like but IMO, will be shifted to North Africa. On the other hand, SE Sicily is clearly more European, Italic and more likely Greek.

You should put a 'Messina' a 'Palermo' and a 'SE Sicily' average on there also.

alnortedelsur

08-08-2017, 01:04 PM

https://image.ibb.co/k1V97F/alnorte.png

Thanks :)

Inquizzzitor

08-08-2017, 02:32 PM

Sorry, which admixture project name and calculator is this?

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 03:04 PM

Sorry, which admixture project name and calculator is this?
Eurogenes EUtest

Kriptc06

08-08-2017, 03:07 PM

https://image.ibb.co/gaLCuv/Penta_Dragonng

first of all, big thank you!

question, do you discound the non euro?

how can we fit here? shouldnt we be floating alone?
by the looks of it im in the middle on portugal and romania :confused:

MINARDOWICZ

08-08-2017, 03:08 PM

This is me... curious as to how close I am to the Friuli sample...

SOUTH_BALTIC 9.75
EAST_EURO 8.58
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.35
ATLANTIC 16.98
WEST_MED 13.81
EAST_MED 16.65
WEST_ASIAN 6.13
MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.75
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 03:12 PM

This is me... curious as to how close I am to the Friuli sample...

SOUTH_BALTIC 9.75
EAST_EURO 8.58
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.35
ATLANTIC 16.98
WEST_MED 13.81
EAST_MED 16.65
WEST_ASIAN 6.13
MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.75
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

https://image.ibb.co/n9zYZv/MINARD.png

Inquizzzitor

08-08-2017, 05:10 PM

Mine are:

SOUTH_BALTIC 9.10
EAST_EURO 10.93
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.31
ATLANTIC 22.06
WEST_MED 14.16
EAST_MED 5.97
WEST_ASIAN 8.19
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.35
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.51
EAST_AFRICAN 1.41
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

Ibericus

08-08-2017, 06:48 PM

Mine are:

SOUTH_BALTIC 9.10
EAST_EURO 10.93
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.31
ATLANTIC 22.06
WEST_MED 14.16
EAST_MED 5.97
WEST_ASIAN 8.19
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.35
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.51
EAST_AFRICAN 1.41
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

https://image.ibb.co/gq40Wa/inquizzitor.png

alnortedelsur

08-08-2017, 08:31 PM

first of all, big thank you!

question, do you discound the non euro?

how can we fit here? shouldnt we be floating alone?
by the looks of it im in the middle on portugal and romania :confused:

I think he takes everything (even your non-Euro) into account. In my case, I cluster with Italians in all these PCA maps, in part, because I have some Italian mixture, but also, because my minor SSA pulls me a bit south of Iberians and my Amerindian pulls me a bit east of them.

Kriptc06

08-08-2017, 08:40 PM

I think he takes everything (even your non-Euro) into account. In my case, I cluster with Italians in all these PCA maps, in part, because I have some Italian mixture, but also, because my minor SSA pulls me a bit south of Iberians and my Amerindian pulls me a bit east of them.

thank you! btw, im planning on doing 23andme soon! cant wait! 23 is a lot better than ftdna.

Sikeliot

08-08-2017, 11:18 PM

Calabria:

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 34.2
2 WEST_MED 17.12
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 14.61
4 WEST_ASIAN 10.91
5 ATLANTIC 7.55
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.06
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.37
8 EAST_AFRICAN 1.9
9 EAST_EURO 1.28

Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.54
2 WEST_MED 16.93
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.56
4 ATLANTIC 12.01
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.93
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 8.94
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.65
8 EAST_EURO 0.73
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.71
10 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.01

Calabria:

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.57
2 WEST_MED 18.59
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.13
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.17
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.35
6 ATLANTIC 7.07
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.33
8 EAST_EURO 2.45
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.33

Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.57
2 WEST_MED 18.59
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.13
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.17
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.35
6 ATLANTIC 7.07
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.33
8 EAST_EURO 2.45
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.33

Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 29.82
2 WEST_MED 19.43
3 WEST_ASIAN 16.07
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.71
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 10.57
6 ATLANTIC 5.54
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 3.26
8 EAST_EURO 2.09
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.3
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.23

Ibericus

08-09-2017, 06:02 PM

Calabria:

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 34.2
2 WEST_MED 17.12
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 14.61
4 WEST_ASIAN 10.91
5 ATLANTIC 7.55
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.06
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.37
8 EAST_AFRICAN 1.9
9 EAST_EURO 1.28

Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.54
2 WEST_MED 16.93
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.56
4 ATLANTIC 12.01
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.93
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 8.94
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.65
8 EAST_EURO 0.73
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.71
10 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.01

Calabria:

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.57
2 WEST_MED 18.59
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.13
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.17
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.35
6 ATLANTIC 7.07
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.33
8 EAST_EURO 2.45
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.33

Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.57
2 WEST_MED 18.59
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.13
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.17
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.35
6 ATLANTIC 7.07
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.33
8 EAST_EURO 2.45
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.33

Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 29.82
2 WEST_MED 19.43
3 WEST_ASIAN 16.07
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.71
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 10.57
6 ATLANTIC 5.54
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 3.26
8 EAST_EURO 2.09
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.3
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.23

https://image.ibb.co/bShHev/Calabria.png

Sikeliot

08-09-2017, 06:11 PM

Calabria is like Dodecanese. Cool.

TEUTORIGOS

08-09-2017, 06:16 PM

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.91
EAST_EURO 10.27
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.77
ATLANTIC 29.96
WEST_MED 10.57
EAST_MED 2.47
WEST_ASIAN 4.44
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.59
EAST_AFRICAN 0.13
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.38
WEST_AFRICAN 0.49

MINARDOWICZ

08-09-2017, 09:08 PM

https://image.ibb.co/n9zYZv/MINARD.png

NAILED IT! I am basically like a person from Friuli. Makes perfect sense, no? I am 3/8 S Italian and C Italian, 1/16 Ashkenazi (some Sephardi/Italkim maybe too), 1/16 East European (Slovak, Russian, and Hungarian), 1/2 White American of multiple roots including Swedish, German, British Isles, etc.

Kelmendasi

08-09-2017, 09:43 PM

Could you please add this Albanian who I match who I think is from Montenegro judging by his surname which is from the Grude clan, he seems to plot north on K15 and interestingly he has the same haplogroup as me?
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 14.77
EAST_EURO 6.73
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.96
ATLANTIC 14.68
WEST_MED 12.77
EAST_MED 20.85
WEST_ASIAN 8.00
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.84
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.37
WEST_AFRICAN -

Ibericus

08-09-2017, 10:04 PM

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.91
EAST_EURO 10.27
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.77
ATLANTIC 29.96
WEST_MED 10.57
EAST_MED 2.47
WEST_ASIAN 4.44
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.59
EAST_AFRICAN 0.13
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.38
WEST_AFRICAN 0.49

https://image.ibb.co/diahev/teutorigos.png

Sikeliot

08-09-2017, 10:12 PM

Ibericus can you put an average for Calabria, Messina, palermo and SE Sicily on there for all future used charts?

Ibericus

08-09-2017, 10:21 PM

Could you please add this Albanian who I match who I think is from Montenegro judging by his surname which is from the Grude clan, he seems to plot north on K15 and interestingly he has the same haplogroup as me?
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 14.77
EAST_EURO 6.73
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.96
ATLANTIC 14.68
WEST_MED 12.77
EAST_MED 20.85
WEST_ASIAN 8.00
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.84
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.37
WEST_AFRICAN -

https://image.ibb.co/fE7sCF/kelmendasi.png

Kelmendasi

08-09-2017, 10:25 PM

[IG]https://image.ibb.co/fE7sCF/kelmendasi.png[/IMG]
Damn these Montenegrin Albos are northern, he beats Bulgarians in this regard

Ibericus

08-09-2017, 10:51 PM

Ibericus can you put an average for Calabria, Messina, palermo and SE Sicily on there for all future used charts?
i have only kits from Messina..

Sikeliot

08-09-2017, 10:58 PM

i have only kits from Messina..

Use the results I posted.

Ibericus

08-09-2017, 11:35 PM

Use the results I posted.

https://image.ibb.co/h63Dma/south_italians.png

Sikeliot

08-09-2017, 11:46 PM

https://image.ibb.co/h63Dma/south_italians.png

Those Greek islanders look too outlying to me again. I think you should discard your sample, it seems unrepresentative.

Redo it with these:

Dodecanese:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.39
2 WEST_MED 17.18
3 WEST_ASIAN 14.26
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.25
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.78
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 7.21
7 ATLANTIC 4.93
8 EAST_EURO 3.2
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.54
10 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.27

#2:

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 34.78
2 WEST_MED 16.44
3 WEST_ASIAN 14.88
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.01
5 ATLANTIC 8.83
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.82
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.07
8 EAST_EURO 1.43
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.99
10 SIBERIAN 0.74
11 EAST_ASIAN 0.01

#3:

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.23
2 WEST_MED 16.51
3 WEST_ASIAN 11.19
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.17
5 ATLANTIC 9.04
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.74
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.75
8 EAST_EURO 2.45
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.91

#4:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 31.81
2 WEST_MED 18.16
3 WEST_ASIAN 15.46
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.5
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.36
6 ATLANTIC 8.33
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.53
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.56
9 SIBERIAN 0.3

#5:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.65
2 WEST_ASIAN 14.64
3 WEST_MED 12.14
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.45
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.39
6 EAST_EURO 7.56
7 ATLANTIC 7.23
8 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 6.78
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.11
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.05

Chios:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 27.99
2 WEST_ASIAN 13.12
3 WEST_MED 12.56
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.52
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.99
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.73
7 ATLANTIC 7.15
8 EAST_EURO 7.1
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.85

#2:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.59
2 WEST_ASIAN 16.47
3 WEST_MED 15.67
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.28
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 8.88
6 ATLANTIC 6.66
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.35
8 EAST_EURO 4.11

#3:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 30.86
2 WEST_ASIAN 16.34
3 WEST_MED 15.74
4 ATLANTIC 10.11
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.68
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.54
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 7.1
8 EAST_EURO 4.62

#4:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.99
2 WEST_MED 17.81
3 WEST_ASIAN 14.12
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 10.24
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.13
6 ATLANTIC 7.6
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.08
8 EAST_EURO 2.69
9 SIBERIAN 0.25
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.08
11 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.02

#5:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.99
2 WEST_MED 17.99
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.46
4 WEST_ASIAN 13.15
5 ATLANTIC 6.98
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.37
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.59
8 EAST_EURO 0.33
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.14

TEUTORIGOS

08-11-2017, 02:00 AM

https://image.ibb.co/diahev/teutorigos.png

Cool ! Thanks a lot bro ! Much appreciated.

Dibran

08-11-2017, 02:58 AM

Please plot mine! thank you in advance!

Me:

23:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.67
2 WEST_MED 22.96
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.35
4 ATLANTIC 11.61
5 WEST_ASIAN 8.85
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.33
7 EAST_EURO 5.45
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.77

LivingDNA:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.35
2 WEST_MED 22.5
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.31
4 WEST_ASIAN 12.45
5 ATLANTIC 10.53
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.95
7 EAST_EURO 4.99
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.92

My Father:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.71
2 WEST_MED 20.71
3 ATLANTIC 13.93
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.91
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 11.76
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.7
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.08
8 EAST_EURO 4.11
9 SIBERIAN 0.09

Petalpusher

08-11-2017, 04:19 AM

3 more to add Iberibro, thank

Mine
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.94
2 ATLANTIC 23.95
3 WEST_MED 19.23
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.83
5 EAST_EURO 9.41
6 EAST_MED 6.78
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.85

Mother
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.03
2 ATLANTIC 24.54
3 WEST_MED 18.59
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.95
5 EAST_EURO 9.5
6 EAST_MED 5.86
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.52

Father
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.81
2 ATLANTIC 22.64
3 WEST_MED 20.22
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.90
5 EAST_EURO 9.35
6 EAST_MED 8.14
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.94

TEUTORIGOS

08-11-2017, 05:10 AM

https://image.ibb.co/diahev/teutorigos.png

Anyway, this looks very accurate so you do a good job Ibericus ! Keep up the Good work. To show that Ibericus is legit his results seem pretty close to my PCA chart from Stanford university ( I am the black square) :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/naudiz/Screenshot_20170228-050955_zpsejzymy3h.png

Notice where I fit with regards to the Irish and British flags. Looks like Ibericus does academic quality work here. Great job ! We are getting Academic quality work here for free from Ibericus. Someone buy this man a beer or something !:thumb001:

Grace O'Malley

08-11-2017, 09:27 AM

Hi Ibericus - Could you please add mine when you have the chance. Thanks

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 14.54
EAST_EURO 11.64
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.74
ATLANTIC 29.05
WEST_MED 8.13
EAST_MED 1.05
WEST_ASIAN 6.85
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

Ibericus

08-11-2017, 11:00 AM

Please plot mine! thank you in advance!

Me:

23:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.67
2 WEST_MED 22.96
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.35
4 ATLANTIC 11.61
5 WEST_ASIAN 8.85
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.33
7 EAST_EURO 5.45
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.77

LivingDNA:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.35
2 WEST_MED 22.5
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.31
4 WEST_ASIAN 12.45
5 ATLANTIC 10.53
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.95
7 EAST_EURO 4.99
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.92

My Father:

Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.71
2 WEST_MED 20.71
3 ATLANTIC 13.93
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.91
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 11.76
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.7
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.08
8 EAST_EURO 4.11
9 SIBERIAN 0.09

https://image.ibb.co/fdBJjv/Dibran.png

Ibericus

08-11-2017, 11:06 AM

3 more to add Iberibro, thank

Mine
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.94
2 ATLANTIC 23.95
3 WEST_MED 19.23
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.83
5 EAST_EURO 9.41
6 EAST_MED 6.78
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.85

Mother
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.03
2 ATLANTIC 24.54
3 WEST_MED 18.59
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.95
5 EAST_EURO 9.5
6 EAST_MED 5.86
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.52

Father
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.81
2 ATLANTIC 22.64
3 WEST_MED 20.22
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.90
5 EAST_EURO 9.35
6 EAST_MED 8.14
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.94

https://image.ibb.co/kC17Wa/petalpusher.png

de Burgh II

08-11-2017, 11:08 AM

Much obliged! :-P
http://i.imgur.com/wUiqvl9.gif

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 10.99
EAST_EURO 7.99
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.56
ATLANTIC 30.80
WEST_MED 13.87
EAST_MED 4.93
WEST_ASIAN 4.13
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.13
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.44
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.17
WEST_AFRICAN -

Ibericus

08-11-2017, 11:10 AM

Hi Ibericus - Could you please add mine when you have the chance. Thanks

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 14.54
EAST_EURO 11.64
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.74
ATLANTIC 29.05
WEST_MED 8.13
EAST_MED 1.05
WEST_ASIAN 6.85
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

https://image.ibb.co/m4BD4v/Grace.png

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

08-11-2017, 11:11 AM

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.63
EAST_EURO 6.87
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.25
ATLANTIC 21.17
WEST_MED 24.29
EAST_MED 11.21
WEST_ASIAN 3.29
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.88
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 2.21
EAST_ASIAN 0.05
SIBERIAN 0.15
WEST_AFRICAN -

Using the new V5 23andme chip, curious to see if there will be any difference.

Ibericus

08-11-2017, 11:12 AM

Much obliged! :-P
http://i.imgur.com/wUiqvl9.gif

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 10.99
EAST_EURO 7.99
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.56
ATLANTIC 30.80
WEST_MED 13.87
EAST_MED 4.93
WEST_ASIAN 4.13
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.13
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.44
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.17
WEST_AFRICAN -

https://image.ibb.co/j7EcWa/de_Burgh.png

Ibericus

08-11-2017, 11:18 AM

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.63
EAST_EURO 6.87
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.25
ATLANTIC 21.17
WEST_MED 24.29
EAST_MED 11.21
WEST_ASIAN 3.29
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.88
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 2.21
EAST_ASIAN 0.05
SIBERIAN 0.15
WEST_AFRICAN -

Using the new V5 23andme chip, curious to see if there will be any difference.

https://image.ibb.co/e0XmPv/Viriato.png

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

08-11-2017, 11:20 AM

Gracias. Not much difference so it seems.

Petalpusher

08-11-2017, 11:30 AM

.

Sometimes i wonder if EUtest is not better than even K15, almost perfectly between my parents here and my father is FTDNA rather than 23.

Do you think you can add the mesolithic like Loschbour/Motala on the pca ? And maybe East Africa if it doesn't end up too far (W.Africa would def be too far) just to get a sense how the whole European cluster is formed in EUtest.

Grace O'Malley

08-11-2017, 11:31 AM

https://image.ibb.co/m4BD4v/Grace.png

Thanks. A wee bit astray. :) but nothing too drastic.

Ibericus

08-13-2017, 02:12 AM

Thanks. A wee bit astray. :) but nothing too drastic.
What are your oracles on the Eutest ?

Sikeliot

08-13-2017, 02:28 AM

Good to see the Sicilians added on the permanent plot. Clearly SE Sicily differs from Messina/Palermo and drifts away from the more Levant shifted cluster and toward Greece proper.

Grace O'Malley

08-13-2017, 03:17 AM

What are your oracles on the Eutest ?

It's not really astray. I do come up on the cusp of Scandinavia and British Isles. Davidski (Eurogenes) said the same thing.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 29.05
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.74
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.54
4 EAST_EURO 11.64
5 WEST_MED 8.13
6 WEST_ASIAN 6.85
7 EAST_MED 1.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3.19
2 IE 3.78
3 Scottish 4.07
4 English 5.65
5 NL 6.04
6 DK 6.08
7 Cornish 6.09
8 NO 6.34
9 West_&_Central_German 6.73
10 South_&_Central_Swedish 7.01
11 North_Swedish 10.75
12 AT 13.82
13 FR 14.7
14 HU 18.52
15 South_Finnish 19.56
16 Serbian 21.37
17 PT 22.12
18 PL 22.12
19 ES 22.35
20 EE 24.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Scottish + 32% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.7
2 66.1% Scottish + 33.9% NO @ 2.85
3 83.2% Orcadian + 16.8% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.92
4 72.8% IE + 27.2% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.93
5 83.7% Orcadian + 16.3% NO @ 3
6 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Lezgin @ 3
7 96% Orcadian + 4% EE @ 3.03
8 96.8% Orcadian + 3.2% LIT @ 3.04
9 92% Orcadian + 8% North_Swedish @ 3.06
10 98.5% Orcadian + 1.5% GE @ 3.07
11 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 3.1
12 72.1% IE + 27.9% NO @ 3.11
13 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% Northwest_Russian @ 3.11
14 96.9% Orcadian + 3.1% PL @ 3.11
15 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% East_Finnish @ 3.11
16 97.3% Orcadian + 2.7% West_Russian @ 3.12
17 96.7% Orcadian + 3.3% South_Finnish @ 3.12
18 97.5% Orcadian + 2.5% UA @ 3.13
19 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.13
20 98% Orcadian + 2% Erzya @ 3.13

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Orcadian @ 3.586883

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IE +25% Scottish +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.138446

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 IE + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.093390
2 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.097898
3 IE + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.126189
4 IE + IE + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.138446
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.172408
6 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.184580
7 NO + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.242635
8 IE + IE + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.273401
9 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.274760
10 IE + NO + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.277389
11 IE + NO + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.286388
12 IE + IE + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.298187
13 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.313722
14 IE + IE + NO + Scottish @ 3.334099
15 NO + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.356885
16 English + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.367349
17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.401448
18 IE + NO + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.418174
19 IE + IE + NO + Orcadian @ 3.420750
20 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.460329

Dick

08-13-2017, 03:21 AM

It's not really astray. I do come up on the cusp of Scandinavia and British Isles. Davidski (Eurogenes) said the same thing.

it's obvious all the plumbers want to be accepted as streamline euro(no Asian,Mena etc admixture) or even north euro, so Poland next to Sweden is a bit ludicrous for example, but Davidski just cherry picks the samples he uses.

Grace O'Malley

08-13-2017, 03:24 AM

it's obvious all the plumbers want to be accepted as streamline euro(no Asian,Mena etc admixture) or even north euro, so Poland next to Sweden is a bit ludicrous for example, but Davidski just cherry picks the samples he uses.

There are a lot of other people that do the runs. Have you looked on Anthrogenica?

Dick

08-13-2017, 03:25 AM

Have you looked on Anthrogenica?

I can't. I'm IP/perma banned for life. I can't even access the site on my 2 cell phones.

Grace O'Malley

08-13-2017, 03:35 AM

I can't. I'm IP/perma banned for life. I can't even access the site on my 2 cell phones.

That's a shame. It's got a lot of great posters there and a lot of good information. It is very easy to get banned there though.

Dick

08-13-2017, 04:02 AM

That's a shame. It's got a lot of great posters there and a lot of good information. It is very easy to get banned there though.

I'll survive

Ibericus

08-14-2017, 11:55 AM

Sometimes i wonder if EUtest is not better than even K15, almost perfectly between my parents here and my father is FTDNA rather than 23.

Do you think you can add the mesolithic like Loschbour/Motala on the pca ? And maybe East Africa if it doesn't end up too far (W.Africa would def be too far) just to get a sense how the whole European cluster is formed in EUtest.
It's a good test, but it has fewer samples than K15..

If I add Loschbour :

http://i.imgur.com/7eWzuVa.png

Geni

08-14-2017, 05:24 PM

1 EAST_MED 27.57
2 WEST_MED 18.7
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.16
4 ATLANTIC 13.11
5 WEST_ASIAN 9.43
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.05
7 EAST_EURO 5.31
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.16
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.37
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.14
11 SIBERIAN 0.01

Ibericus

08-14-2017, 06:34 PM

1 EAST_MED 27.57
2 WEST_MED 18.7
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.16
4 ATLANTIC 13.11
5 WEST_ASIAN 9.43
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.05
7 EAST_EURO 5.31
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.16
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.37
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.14
11 SIBERIAN 0.01

https://image.ibb.co/nsOPga/geni.png

Ibericus

08-14-2017, 10:27 PM

Good to see the Sicilians added on the permanent plot. Clearly SE Sicily differs from Messina/Palermo and drifts away from the more Levant shifted cluster and toward Greece proper.
How come these SE- Siciliy that you gave me are shifted to the left ? Are they cherrypicked or that's the general trend.

Lek

08-15-2017, 08:16 PM

SOUTH_BALTIC 11.44
EAST_EURO 4.95
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.11
ATLANTIC 16.70
WEST_MED 17.42
EAST_MED 20.25
WEST_ASIAN 8.65
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.40
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.08
WEST_AFRICAN -

Ibericus

08-15-2017, 08:33 PM

SOUTH_BALTIC 11.44
EAST_EURO 4.95
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.11
ATLANTIC 16.70
WEST_MED 17.42
EAST_MED 20.25
WEST_ASIAN 8.65
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.40
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.08
WEST_AFRICAN -

https://image.ibb.co/h11Mwa/ali_pasha.png

Coastal Elite

01-19-2019, 04:02 AM

Not sure if you still doing this PCA but here are my results. Thanks

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 13.07
EAST_EURO 8.94
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 21.67
ATLANTIC 23.82
WEST_MED 12.55
EAST_MED 11.21
WEST_ASIAN 7.99
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.24
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.51
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

Ibericus

01-19-2019, 10:05 AM

Not sure if you still doing this PCA but here are my results. Thanks

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 13.07
EAST_EURO 8.94
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 21.67
ATLANTIC 23.82
WEST_MED 12.55
EAST_MED 11.21
WEST_ASIAN 7.99
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.24
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.51
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
Here you have, closest to Austrian Tyrol :

https://i.ibb.co/pwKzSBr/dacoceltic.png

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić

01-19-2019, 12:20 PM

1 SOUTH_BALTIC 21.62
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 21.33
3 ATLANTIC 17.18
4 EAST_EURO 11.29
5 WEST_MED 10.43
6 EAST_MED 10.06
7 WEST_ASIAN 7.91
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.1
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.07
10 MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.01

Dunai

01-19-2019, 01:22 PM

Can I also be added?

SOUTH_BALTIC 23.04 Pct
EAST_EURO 11.36 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.03 Pct
ATLANTIC 18.04 Pct
WEST_MED 9.62 Pct
EAST_MED 3.66 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 8.90 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.61 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.16 Pct
EAST_AFRICAN 0.12 Pct
EAST_ASIAN 0.57 Pct
SIBERIAN 1.90 Pct
WEST_AFRICAN -

FilhoV

01-19-2019, 03:42 PM

someone asked me for the PCA of this calculator, and I added many samples :

https://image.ibb.co/eeS7SF/EUtest_pca.png

When you get the chance

23&me
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 4.94
EAST_EURO 3.27
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.65
ATLANTIC 30.11
WEST_MED 21.30
EAST_MED 14.99
WEST_ASIAN 0.75
MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.16
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 0.59
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 2.24

FTDNA kit

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 4.45
EAST_EURO 4.56
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.43
ATLANTIC 27.46
WEST_MED 23.00
EAST_MED 13.53
WEST_ASIAN 1.11
MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.62
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 1.38
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 1.45

Ford

01-19-2019, 03:49 PM

SOUTH_BALTIC 20.90
EAST_EURO 12.47
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 21.27
ATLANTIC 11.68
WEST_MED 12.88
EAST_MED 15.40
WEST_ASIAN 4.66
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.25
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.49
WEST_AFRICAN -

Coastal Elite

01-19-2019, 04:44 PM

Here you have, closest to Austrian Tyrol :

https://i.ibb.co/pwKzSBr/dacoceltic.png

Thanks! Much appreciated

Leto

01-19-2019, 05:27 PM

@Ibericus, please add my family, I'd like to see where they plot, the PCA looks interesting

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 25.47
EAST_EURO 29.81
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.74
ATLANTIC 9.54
WEST_MED 4.62
EAST_MED 1.97
WEST_ASIAN 5.01
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.03
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.27
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.21
SIBERIAN 3.33
WEST_AFRICAN -

Leto_Father

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 31.87
EAST_EURO 27.57
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.59
ATLANTIC 11.55
WEST_MED 6.04
EAST_MED 0.07
WEST_ASIAN 4.94
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.09
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.22
SIBERIAN 0.06
WEST_AFRICAN -

Leto_Mother

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 24.65
EAST_EURO 31.48
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.17
ATLANTIC 9.53
WEST_MED 4.02
EAST_MED 2.53
WEST_ASIAN 2.98
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.13
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.72
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.23
SIBERIAN 5.57
WEST_AFRICAN -

My brother-in-law (Leto_BIL)

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 27.22
EAST_EURO 27.17
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.77
ATLANTIC 11.64
WEST_MED 7.11
EAST_MED 1.99
WEST_ASIAN 3.69
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.64
EAST_AFRICAN 0.21
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 2.52
WEST_AFRICAN -

Leto

01-19-2019, 05:32 PM

Can I also be added?

1 North_Sea 24.86
2 Atlantic 20.09
3 Baltic 19.51
4 Eastern_Euro 9.92
5 West_Med 7.89
6 West_Asian 7.49
7 East_Med 5.27
8 Siberian 2.05
9 Southeast_Asian 1.24
10 Red_Sea 0.77
11 Oceanian 0.59
12 South_Asian 0.17
13 Amerindian 0.17
This isn't EUtest, scroll down the Eurogenes list.

celticdragongod

01-19-2019, 05:36 PM

If you don't mind. Also, please abbreviate my name to CDG on the graph to save space. Thanks:

SOUTH_BALTIC 14.67
EAST_EURO 11.16
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.89
ATLANTIC 29.64
WEST_MED 9.54
EAST_MED 1.71
WEST_ASIAN 6.39
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

Rgvgjhvv

01-19-2019, 05:49 PM

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 27.24
2 WEST_MED 18.1
3 WEST_ASIAN 14.21
4 ATLANTIC 9.98
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.56
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.89
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.34
8 EAST_EURO 5.02
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.45
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.22

Gründig

01-19-2019, 05:53 PM

Please and thank you.

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 14.04
EAST_EURO 10.20
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.73
ATLANTIC 22.86
WEST_MED 12.56
EAST_MED 7.14
WEST_ASIAN 7.84
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.19
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.42