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Sol Invictus
02-09-2009, 09:26 PM
Hal Turner (http://www.halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/01/military-to-swear-oath-to-obama-not.html)
Jan 30th, 2009
2:43 pm

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is allegedly extremely frustrated with orders that the White House is contemplating. According to sources at the Pentagon, including all branches of the armed forces, the Obama Administration may break with a centuries-old tradition.

A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the President, and no longer to the Constitution.

"The oath to the Constitution is as old as the document itself." the spokesman said, "At no time in American history, not even in the Civil War, did the oath change or the subject of the oath differ. It has always been to the Constitution."

The back-and-forth between the White House and the Defense Department was expected as President George W. Bush left office. President Obama has already signed orders to close Guantanamo and to pull combat troops from Iraq. But, this, say many at the Defense Department, goes too far.

"Technically, we can't talk about it before it becomes official policy." the spokesman continued. "However, the Defense Department, including the Secretary, will not take this laying down. Expect a fight from the bureaucracy and the brass."

Sources at the White House had a different point of view. In a circular distributed by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the rationale for the change was made more clear.

"The President feels that the military has been too indoctrinated by the old harbingers of hate: nationalism, racism, and classism. By removing an oath to the American society, the soldiers are less likely to commit atrocities like those at Abu Ghraib."

"We expect a lot of flak over this," the classified memo continues. "But those that would be most against it are those looking either for attention or control."

The time frame for the changes are unknown. However, it is more likely that the changes will be made around the July 4th holiday, in order to dampen any potential backlash. The difference in the oath will actually only be slight. The main differences will be the new phrasing. It is expected that the oath to the Constitution will be entirely phased out within two years.

Gooding
02-16-2009, 12:15 AM
That's exactly what we anticipated. Now that the Constitution is being pushed back into the shadows more and more, Obama's new idea will give him a private army.These developments are very frightening.

Psychonaut
02-16-2009, 12:17 AM
I think this is bunk. If military officials, particularly NSA types like Gates, were really concerned about this, I'm fairly sure that I would've heard something about this at work. Always be wary of unsourced articles.

Birka
02-16-2009, 12:28 AM
I really hope this is a false story. But with this socialist, I suspect anything and will until proven otherwise.
What got my radar tweaked about this story is that Ombongo is the only president that did not get sworn in (the official one in the White House) with his hand on the bible. I know it is only symbolic, but the symbolism of him NOT using the bible all the previous presidents used, sends out a strong message. But to whom I wonder?

Sol Invictus
02-16-2009, 12:33 AM
Could be bunk, or could be a glimpse into the future.. Who knows.. Expect the unexpected with this administration.. No one's talking about it doesn't mean it's not happening.. Could be the best thing that ever happened to the military to tell you the truth.. People who are well-meaning usually volunteer to defend their homes and the constitution, so imagine the outrage among the troops?

SPQR
02-16-2009, 10:32 PM
I think this is bunk. If military officials, particularly NSA types like Gates, were really concerned about this, I'm fairly sure that I would've heard something about this at work. Always be wary of unsourced articles.

Just out of curiousity, how would the boys in the military generally feel about it if it was true? Any assumptions?

Psychonaut
02-16-2009, 10:43 PM
Just out of curiousity, how would the boys in the military generally feel about it if it was true? Any assumptions?

It's hard to say. I'm in an MI unit, which is hardly representative of the military as a while, but most the people I work with fawn over Obama. I think that the real Army is fairly conservative, but most of us are also very conditioned to blindly following orders. So, if this were to happen, I think it would go over just like every other shitty change the military has endured. We would bitch and moan about it but, in the end, would do as we're told.