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Ibericus
08-10-2017, 05:36 PM
As demanded by Dibran . PCa of Gedoria Ancient K6 :
https://image.ibb.co/hv89uv/Gedrosia_K6.png
Hadouken
08-10-2017, 05:41 PM
thanks man
Natufian 48.22
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 29.52
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 14.16
East_Asian 5.4
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.09
Sub_Saharan 0.62
magicalM
08-10-2017, 05:55 PM
Thanks in advance! #PopulationPercent
1West_European_Hunter_Gartherer39.11
2Natufian38.85
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian19.744East_Asian2.31
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Kelmendasi
08-10-2017, 06:37 PM
Thanks in advance
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.38
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 1.03
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.81
Natufian 45.78
Sub_Saharan -
Coolguy1
08-10-2017, 06:40 PM
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.34
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian -
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 31.60
Natufian 46.59
Sub_Saharan 0.47
MysteriousWays
08-10-2017, 06:57 PM
Thanks:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 49.6
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25.44
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 22.02
4 Sub_Saharan 1.38
5 East_Asian 0.79
6 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.75
Nilotik
08-10-2017, 07:00 PM
Thaanks
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 43.37
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.98
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.1
4 East_Asian 1.78
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.59
6 Sub_Saharan 0.19
firemonkey
08-10-2017, 07:53 PM
Thanks
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 44.24
2 Natufian 33.45
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.4
4 East_Asian 1.67
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.28
6 Sub_Saharan 0.95
Dibran
08-10-2017, 08:26 PM
As demanded by Dibran . PCa of Gedoria Ancient K6 :
https://image.ibb.co/dj4O2F/Gedrosia_K6.png
You're the man! Thank you. Here are mine. Thank you in advance.
Me:
23:
Population Percent
1 Natufian 45.55
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 36.04
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.15
4 East_Asian 0.26
ftdna:
Population Percent
1 Natufian 46.26
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.89
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.43
4 Sub_Saharan 0.42
LivingDNA:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 42.74
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 41.01
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 16.26
My father:
Population Percent
1 Natufian 47.03
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 32.84
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.13
alnortedelsur
08-10-2017, 10:02 PM
Thanks in advance...
23 AndMe:
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 15.39
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.16
East_Asian 3.77
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 32.85
Natufian 41.80
Sub_Saharan 6.03
Ancestry DNA:
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 15.48
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 3.51
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.31
Natufian 41.18
Sub_Saharan 6.52
Sikeliot
08-10-2017, 10:32 PM
Some Sicilians and Greek islanders:
Chios:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 49.29
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 28.65
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.43
4 Sub_Saharan 0.63
Chios:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 49.75
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 24.46
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 22.42
4 Sub_Saharan 1.77
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.6
Cyclades:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 50.81
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 27.13
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.2
4 East_Asian 1.39
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.44
6 Sub_Saharan 0.03
Rhodes:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 51.62
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 24.06
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.38
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.6
5 East_Asian 0.76
6 Sub_Saharan 0.58
Crete:
Population Percent
1 Natufian 48.65
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 26.23
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.24
4 East_Asian 2.2
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.3
6 Sub_Saharan 0.37
Calabria:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 52.26
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 24.11
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.85
4 Sub_Saharan 3.16
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.53
6 East_Asian 0.09
Palermo:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 50.13
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 24.05
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.33
4 Sub_Saharan 2.74
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.74
Palermo:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 50.06
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 26.75
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.73
4 Sub_Saharan 2.09
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.38
Palermo:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 48.13
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25.74
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.09
4 Sub_Saharan 4.34
5 East_Asian 0.7
Messina:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 50.43
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.63
4 Sub_Saharan 3.7
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.24
Messina:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 48.92
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 26.02
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.15
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.16
5 Sub_Saharan 1.75
SE Sicily:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 48.8
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 29.01
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 15.74
4 Sub_Saharan 3.7
5 East_Asian 2.74
SE Sicily:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 47.89
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 31.54
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.12
4 Sub_Saharan 1.59
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.85
SE Sicily:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 49.04
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 29.47
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.07
4 Sub_Saharan 2.39
5 East_Asian 0.74
6 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.3
Trapani:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 49.56
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 29.53
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.31
4 Sub_Saharan 2.5
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.11
Caltanissetta:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 48.54
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 29.51
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.15
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.5
5 East_Asian 0.29
Thessaly:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 45.11
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.39
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.01
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 3.43
5 Sub_Saharan 0.07
Epirus:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 44.79
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.58
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.87
4 East_Asian 1.92
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.85
Thessaloniki:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 45.03
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.46
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20
4 East_Asian 1.51
West Greece:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 45.8
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 29.8
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.71
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.03
5 Sub_Saharan 1.63
6 East_Asian 0.02
Peloponnese:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 46.9
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.4
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.86
4 East_Asian 1.31
5 Sub_Saharan 0.53
Ibericus
08-10-2017, 10:33 PM
thanks man
Natufian 48.22
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 29.52
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 14.16
East_Asian 5.4
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.09
Sub_Saharan 0.62
https://image.ibb.co/kthKuv/all_in.png
Ibericus
08-10-2017, 10:36 PM
Thanks in advance! #PopulationPercent
1West_European_Hunter_Gartherer39.11
2Natufian38.85
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian19.744East_Asian2.31
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https://image.ibb.co/nBNkZv/magicalm.png
Ibericus
08-10-2017, 10:38 PM
Thanks in advance
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.38
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 1.03
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.81
Natufian 45.78
Sub_Saharan -
https://image.ibb.co/gupUSF/kelmendasi.png
Ibericus
08-10-2017, 10:40 PM
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.34
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian -
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 31.60
Natufian 46.59
Sub_Saharan 0.47
https://image.ibb.co/nAuJMa/sorcelow.png
Ibericus
08-10-2017, 10:43 PM
Thanks:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 49.6
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25.44
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 22.02
4 Sub_Saharan 1.38
5 East_Asian 0.79
6 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.75
https://image.ibb.co/n8HYnF/mysterious.png
Ibericus
08-10-2017, 10:44 PM
Thaanks
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 43.37
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.98
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.1
4 East_Asian 1.78
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.59
6 Sub_Saharan 0.19
https://image.ibb.co/cBrnEv/Nilotik.png
MysteriousWays
08-10-2017, 10:47 PM
https://image.ibb.co/n8HYnF/mysterious.png
Awesome. Thank you. Do you know what Armenia_CnL stands for? Does that correspond to a modern population or an ancient one? If it is ancient, do you know how far it is from modern Armenians? It seems to be pulling me pretty substantially in that direction.
de Burgh II
08-10-2017, 10:48 PM
Thanks in advance broski! :-P
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.00
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.59
East_Asian -
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 42.73
Natufian 36.68
Sub_Saharan -
Ibericus
08-10-2017, 11:02 PM
Awesome. Thank you. Do you know what Armenia_CnL stands for? Does that correspond to a modern population or an ancient one? If it is ancient, do you know how far it is from modern Armenians? It seems to be pulling me pretty substantially in that direction.
It's Armenian Chalcolithic, they are more european than modern Armenians because of higher steppe/EHG
Ibericus
08-10-2017, 11:06 PM
Thanks
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 44.24
2 Natufian 33.45
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.4
4 East_Asian 1.67
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.28
6 Sub_Saharan 0.95
https://image.ibb.co/cGbR7F/firemonke.png
Ibericus
08-10-2017, 11:31 PM
You're the man! Thank you. Here are mine. Thank you in advance.
Me:
23:
Population Percent
1 Natufian 45.55
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 36.04
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.15
4 East_Asian 0.26
ftdna:
Population Percent
1 Natufian 46.26
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.89
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.43
4 Sub_Saharan 0.42
LivingDNA:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 42.74
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 41.01
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 16.26
My father:
Population Percent
1 Natufian 47.03
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 32.84
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.13
https://image.ibb.co/kxYg7F/dibran.png
Dibran
08-10-2017, 11:36 PM
https://image.ibb.co/kxYg7F/dibran.png
lmao weird on my livingdna PCA. Spanish?
Ibericus
08-10-2017, 11:45 PM
lmao weird on my livingdna PCA. Spanish?
your living-dna one has the highest WHG that pushes you west, and well there's only 6 components, that low can make you be in weird positions than normally
Dibran
08-10-2017, 11:50 PM
your living-dna one has the highest WHG that pushes you west, and well there's only 6 components, that low can make you be in weird positions than normally
So would you say this is not very accurate? or is there some preserved WHG not necessarily from Spain? Supposedly livingdna goes back 10 plus generation in ancestry. That far back I do notice scandinavian british north italian sardinian and iberian. What could that mean? or should these be taken as components and not literal ancestry from said places?
Pahli
08-10-2017, 11:57 PM
Me
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 51.23
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 32.36
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 10.95
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 3.92
5 Sub_Saharan 0.8
6 East_Asian 0.75
Sarmatian_PR3_I0575:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.28
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 30.18
3 Natufian 25.75
4 East_Asian 7.15
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.64
Sarmatian_PR9_I0574:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 35.92
2 Natufian 32.75
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 31.33
Ibericus
08-11-2017, 01:04 AM
So would you say this is not very accurate? or is there some preserved WHG not necessarily from Spain? Supposedly livingdna goes back 10 plus generation in ancestry. That far back I do notice scandinavian british north italian sardinian and iberian. What could that mean? or should these be taken as components and not literal ancestry from said places?
I would say having only 6 components makes it more sensitive to small variation,
Ibericus
08-11-2017, 01:07 AM
Thanks in advance...
23 AndMe:
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 15.39
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.16
East_Asian 3.77
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 32.85
Natufian 41.80
Sub_Saharan 6.03
Ancestry DNA:
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 15.48
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 3.51
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.31
Natufian 41.18
Sub_Saharan 6.52
https://image.ibb.co/iGXBra/alnorte.png
Ibericus
08-11-2017, 01:10 AM
Thanks in advance broski! :-P
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.00
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.59
East_Asian -
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 42.73
Natufian 36.68
Sub_Saharan -
https://image.ibb.co/jMukHF/de_burgh.png
Ibericus
08-11-2017, 01:17 AM
Me
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 51.23
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 32.36
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 10.95
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 3.92
5 Sub_Saharan 0.8
6 East_Asian 0.75
Sarmatian_PR3_I0575:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.28
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 30.18
3 Natufian 25.75
4 East_Asian 7.15
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.64
Sarmatian_PR9_I0574:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 35.92
2 Natufian 32.75
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 31.33
https://image.ibb.co/bTc2Wa/pahli.png
Dibran
08-11-2017, 01:27 AM
https://image.ibb.co/bTc2Wa/pahli.png
Sarmatians closer to Croatians?
alnortedelsur
08-11-2017, 01:32 AM
https://image.ibb.co/iGXBra/alnorte.png
Thanks bro :cool:
You're the man :thumb001:
PS: as always, I cluster around Northern Italy, though I am surprised that on this one I also cluster close to Albanians, Kosovars, Bulgarians, etc... even closer to them than to Iberians :eek:
Ibericus
08-11-2017, 01:43 AM
Sarmatians closer to Croatians?
Croatians ? They're not close at all...These Sarmatians plot close to where Steppe populations do
Hadouken
08-11-2017, 07:02 AM
https://image.ibb.co/kthKuv/all_in.png
thank you
but I have a question
why does the order of the ethnicities change ? I mean the placing/distribution . it is not the same as the original picture you gave as the default cluster
https://image.ibb.co/hv89uv/Gedrosia_K6.png
magicalM
08-11-2017, 07:45 AM
https://image.ibb.co/nBNkZv/magicalm.png
Thanks! Interesting.
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thanks in advance
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 46.93
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 22.62
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 20.86
4 East_Asian 5.05
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 3.49
6 Sub_Saharan 1.06
oszkar07
08-11-2017, 08:39 AM
Thanks in advance
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 42.46
2 Natufian 37.32
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.37
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.55
5 East_Asian 1.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 1.26
2 French 2.55
3 Croatian 2.61
4 Czech 3.73
5 English 3.81
6 Scottish 4.66
7 Ukrainian 4.98
8 Norwegian 5.73
9 Romanian 6.37
10 Spanish 6.48
11 Icelandic 7.41
12 Bulgarian 8.21
13 Europe_LNBA 8.45
14 Basque 9.42
15 Estonian 10.57
16 Lithuanian 11.38
17 Russian 12.33
18 Albanian 13.05
19 Finnish 13.07
20 Steppe_MLBA 14.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.8% French + 4.2% Bengali @ 0.45
2 90% Romanian + 10% SHG @ 0.68
3 95.8% French + 4.2% Punjabi_PJL @ 0.69
4 90.3% Romanian + 9.7% Motala12 @ 0.71
5 95.8% French + 4.2% GujaratiD @ 0.72
6 96.7% Hungarian + 3.3% Anatolia_N @ 0.73
7 95.3% French + 4.7% Burusho @ 0.76
8 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Levant_N @ 0.79
9 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Natufian @ 0.79
10 94.7% Hungarian + 5.3% Sardinian @ 0.8
11 96.4% French + 3.6% Palliyar @ 0.8
12 96.3% Hungarian + 3.7% Europe_EN @ 0.81
13 95.8% French + 4.2% GujaratiC @ 0.82
14 87.2% Hungarian + 12.8% Spanish @ 0.83
15 95.7% French + 4.3% GujaratiB @ 0.87
16 87.8% Bulgarian + 12.2% Motala12 @ 0.9
17 96.7% French + 3.3% Kharia @ 0.91
18 64.4% Steppe_MLBA + 35.6% Europe_EN @ 0.91
19 74% Hungarian + 26% Croatian @ 0.93
20 96.7% French + 3.3% Paniyas @ 0.93
Ibericus
08-11-2017, 11:15 AM
thank you
but I have a question
why does the order of the ethnicities change ? I mean the placing/distribution . it is not the same as the original picture you gave as the default cluster
https://image.ibb.co/hv89uv/Gedrosia_K6.png
yes, sometimes it flips , but is still the same pca,
Ibericus
08-11-2017, 11:41 AM
thanks in advance
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 46.93
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 22.62
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 20.86
4 East_Asian 5.05
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 3.49
6 Sub_Saharan 1.06
https://image.ibb.co/n50vHF/Rius.png
Ibericus
08-11-2017, 11:45 AM
Thanks in advance
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 42.46
2 Natufian 37.32
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.37
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.55
5 East_Asian 1.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 1.26
2 French 2.55
3 Croatian 2.61
4 Czech 3.73
5 English 3.81
6 Scottish 4.66
7 Ukrainian 4.98
8 Norwegian 5.73
9 Romanian 6.37
10 Spanish 6.48
11 Icelandic 7.41
12 Bulgarian 8.21
13 Europe_LNBA 8.45
14 Basque 9.42
15 Estonian 10.57
16 Lithuanian 11.38
17 Russian 12.33
18 Albanian 13.05
19 Finnish 13.07
20 Steppe_MLBA 14.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.8% French + 4.2% Bengali @ 0.45
2 90% Romanian + 10% SHG @ 0.68
3 95.8% French + 4.2% Punjabi_PJL @ 0.69
4 90.3% Romanian + 9.7% Motala12 @ 0.71
5 95.8% French + 4.2% GujaratiD @ 0.72
6 96.7% Hungarian + 3.3% Anatolia_N @ 0.73
7 95.3% French + 4.7% Burusho @ 0.76
8 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Levant_N @ 0.79
9 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Natufian @ 0.79
10 94.7% Hungarian + 5.3% Sardinian @ 0.8
11 96.4% French + 3.6% Palliyar @ 0.8
12 96.3% Hungarian + 3.7% Europe_EN @ 0.81
13 95.8% French + 4.2% GujaratiC @ 0.82
14 87.2% Hungarian + 12.8% Spanish @ 0.83
15 95.7% French + 4.3% GujaratiB @ 0.87
16 87.8% Bulgarian + 12.2% Motala12 @ 0.9
17 96.7% French + 3.3% Kharia @ 0.91
18 64.4% Steppe_MLBA + 35.6% Europe_EN @ 0.91
19 74% Hungarian + 26% Croatian @ 0.93
20 96.7% French + 3.3% Paniyas @ 0.93
you plot closest to west-germans, altough is hard to see the labels :
https://image.ibb.co/eWTt4v/oszkar.png
firemonkey
08-11-2017, 11:55 AM
https://image.ibb.co/cGbR7F/firemonke.png
Interesting that this has me positioned near Germany east. It's not something I've got on the calculators/other PCAs . Having said that the results in gedmatch mixed mode and 4 population are strange ie top 10 mixed mode and 4 populations.
1 82.3% Estonian + 17.7% Jew_Libyan @ 0.7
2 91.9% Czech + 8.1% GoyetQ116 @ 0.75
3 79.1% Estonian + 20.9% Jew_Ashkenazi @ 0.87
4 82.9% Estonian + 17.1% Jew_Tunisian @ 0.88
5 87.3% Estonian + 12.7% Levant_BA @ 0.92
6 81.8% Estonian + 18.2% Jew_Moroccan @ 0.94
7 77.6% Estonian + 22.4% Sicilian @ 0.94
8 97.4% Ukrainian + 2.6% Saharawi @ 1.03
9 98.5% Ukrainian + 1.5% Somali @ 1.05
10 98.8% Ukrainian + 1.2% Masai @ 1.06
1 Adygei + Druze + Hungarian_KO1 + Ukrainian @ 0.308680
2 Adygei + Druze + Ukrainian + WHG @ 0.308680
3 Kumyk + Motala12 + Sicilian + Spanish @ 0.393791
4 Europe_LNBA + Hungarian_KO1 + Jew_iraqi + Turkish @ 0.417373
5 Europe_LNBA + Jew_iraqi + Turkish + WHG @ 0.417373
6 Czech + Druze + Hungarian_KO1 + Kumyk @ 0.431882
7 Czech + Druze + Kumyk + WHG @ 0.431882
8 Druze + Hungarian + Hungarian_KO1 + Kumyk @ 0.459766
9 Druze + Hungarian + Kumyk + WHG @ 0.459766
10 Druze + Finnish + Italian_South + Motala12 @ 0.461253
I would venture to say this PCA will be off for those with (mainly) European ancestry.
Ibericus
08-11-2017, 12:04 PM
Interesting that this has me positioned near Germany east. It's not something I've got on the calculators/other PCAs . Having said that the results in gedmatch mixed mode and 4 population are strange ie top 10 mixed mode and 4 populations.
1 82.3% Estonian + 17.7% Jew_Libyan @ 0.7
2 91.9% Czech + 8.1% GoyetQ116 @ 0.75
3 79.1% Estonian + 20.9% Jew_Ashkenazi @ 0.87
4 82.9% Estonian + 17.1% Jew_Tunisian @ 0.88
5 87.3% Estonian + 12.7% Levant_BA @ 0.92
6 81.8% Estonian + 18.2% Jew_Moroccan @ 0.94
7 77.6% Estonian + 22.4% Sicilian @ 0.94
8 97.4% Ukrainian + 2.6% Saharawi @ 1.03
9 98.5% Ukrainian + 1.5% Somali @ 1.05
10 98.8% Ukrainian + 1.2% Masai @ 1.06
1 Adygei + Druze + Hungarian_KO1 + Ukrainian @ 0.308680
2 Adygei + Druze + Ukrainian + WHG @ 0.308680
3 Kumyk + Motala12 + Sicilian + Spanish @ 0.393791
4 Europe_LNBA + Hungarian_KO1 + Jew_iraqi + Turkish @ 0.417373
5 Europe_LNBA + Jew_iraqi + Turkish + WHG @ 0.417373
6 Czech + Druze + Hungarian_KO1 + Kumyk @ 0.431882
7 Czech + Druze + Kumyk + WHG @ 0.431882
8 Druze + Hungarian + Hungarian_KO1 + Kumyk @ 0.459766
9 Druze + Hungarian + Kumyk + WHG @ 0.459766
10 Druze + Finnish + Italian_South + Motala12 @ 0.461253
I would venture to say this PCA will be off for those with (mainly) European ancestry.
For me personally it's also not accurate, I get Romanian and Bulgarian before Spanish so..like I said before, the lower number of component makes it more sensitive to small deviations from your ethnic group
Yehiel
08-20-2017, 02:33 AM
Can you do this?
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 41.84
2 Natufian 38.65
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.19
4 Sub_Saharan 0.3
5 East_Asian 0.03
thank you
Grace O'Malley
08-20-2017, 10:54 AM
Can you please do mine Ibericus when you have the time? Thanks
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.1
2 Natufian 33.58
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.8
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.72
5 East_Asian 0.8
Ibericus
08-20-2017, 09:27 PM
Can you do this?
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 41.84
2 Natufian 38.65
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.19
4 Sub_Saharan 0.3
5 East_Asian 0.03
thank you
https://image.ibb.co/f1XkcQ/anoldposter.png
Ibericus
08-20-2017, 09:29 PM
Can you please do mine Ibericus when you have the time? Thanks
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.1
2 Natufian 33.58
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.8
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.72
5 East_Asian 0.8
seems like crap this calc for you :
https://image.ibb.co/njAcrk/grace.png
Freeroostah
08-20-2017, 09:33 PM
Please! :D
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.34
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.28
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.74
Natufian 47.63
Pahli
08-20-2017, 09:34 PM
Sintashta:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 47.85
2 Natufian 26.56
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 25.59
Ibericus
08-20-2017, 10:02 PM
Please! :D
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.34
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.28
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.74
Natufian 47.63
https://image.ibb.co/jdKj45/freeroostah.png
Ibericus
08-20-2017, 10:06 PM
Sintashta:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 47.85
2 Natufian 26.56
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 25.59
https://image.ibb.co/bHC7rk/sintashta.png
Peterski
08-20-2017, 10:09 PM
Add me please, thank you in advance:
Litvin (FTDNA format):
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.69
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.00
East_Asian 0.31
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.79
Natufian 34.21
Sub_Saharan -
Litvin (23andMe format):
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.72
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.09
East_Asian 0.16
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.81
Natufian 34.23
Sub_Saharan -
Ibericus
08-20-2017, 10:54 PM
Add me please, thank you in advance:
Litvin (FTDNA format):
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.69
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.00
East_Asian 0.31
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.79
Natufian 34.21
Sub_Saharan -
Litvin (23andMe format):
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.72
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.09
East_Asian 0.16
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.81
Natufian 34.23
Sub_Saharan -
https://image.ibb.co/kLJGHQ/Litvin.png
Grace O'Malley
08-21-2017, 05:38 PM
seems like crap this calc for you :
https://image.ibb.co/njAcrk/grace.png
LOL! Your comment was funny but yes I agree.
Deniz
08-22-2017, 10:57 AM
Mine
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 41.22
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.61
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.79
4 East_Asian 5.45
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.94
Father
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 39.16
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.67
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.88
4 East_Asian 4.86
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.44
Mother
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 42.02
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 31.48
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.55
4 East_Asian 4.29
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.66
Grandfather
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 40.64
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 32.62
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.11
4 East_Asian 6.87
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.68
6 Sub_Saharan 0.08
Thanks in advance İbericus.
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 12:13 PM
here is my ancestry kit
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.29
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 1.62
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.32
Natufian 36.17
Sub_Saharan 0.60
here is living dna
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.21
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 3.09
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.30
Natufian 36.40
Sub_Saharan -
Ibericus
08-22-2017, 10:24 PM
Mine
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 41.22
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.61
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.79
4 East_Asian 5.45
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.94
Father
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 39.16
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.67
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.88
4 East_Asian 4.86
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.44
Mother
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 42.02
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 31.48
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.55
4 East_Asian 4.29
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.66
Grandfather
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 40.64
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 32.62
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.11
4 East_Asian 6.87
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.68
6 Sub_Saharan 0.08
Thanks in advance İbericus.
https://image.ibb.co/e02QxQ/Deniz.png
Ibericus
08-22-2017, 10:28 PM
here is my ancestry kit
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.29
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 1.62
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.32
Natufian 36.17
Sub_Saharan 0.60
here is living dna
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.21
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 3.09
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.30
Natufian 36.40
Sub_Saharan -
https://image.ibb.co/hLeG45/karol.png
Alessio
08-22-2017, 10:36 PM
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.12
East_Asian 1.00
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.11
Natufian 44.77
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 46.21
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.14
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.02
4 East_Asian 1.64
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.43
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 2.08
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 41.87
Natufian 37.18
Sub_Saharan 1.44
Ancient Mycenaean genome (Kit M866617)
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 51.47
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 30.71
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.72
4 Sub_Saharan 0.1
Ibericus
08-22-2017, 10:54 PM
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.12
East_Asian 1.00
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.11
Natufian 44.77
https://image.ibb.co/h5hdj5/Alessio.png
Ibericus
08-22-2017, 11:21 PM
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 46.21
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 34.14
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.02
4 East_Asian 1.64
https://image.ibb.co/mY9cBk/Ylla.png
Alessio
08-23-2017, 01:07 AM
https://image.ibb.co/h5hdj5/Alessio.png
Could you add my mom as well, to see if it adds up because I think I'm too ''southern'' on this pca. Normally I am between IT Lombardy and Swiss Italians respectively.
North Dutch 1
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.70
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 44.64
Natufian 35.65
North Dutch 2 (grandfather)
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.73
East_Asian 0.26
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 45.85
Natufian 36.15
Gracias amigo!
Ibericus
08-23-2017, 01:14 AM
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.43
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 2.08
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 41.87
Natufian 37.18
Sub_Saharan 1.44
https://image.ibb.co/hPancQ/RN97.png
Ibericus
08-23-2017, 01:16 AM
Ancient Mycenaean genome (Kit M866617)
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 51.47
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 30.71
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.72
4 Sub_Saharan 0.1
https://image.ibb.co/b3iOHQ/myceanean.png
Ibericus
08-23-2017, 01:19 AM
Could you add my mom as well, to see if it adds up because I think I'm too ''southern'' on this pca. Normally I am between IT Lombardy and Swiss Italians respectively.
North Dutch 1
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.70
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 44.64
Natufian 35.65
North Dutch 2 (grandfather)
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.73
East_Asian 0.26
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 45.85
Natufian 36.15
Gracias amigo!
https://image.ibb.co/fji7cQ/Alessio.png
Alessio
08-23-2017, 01:24 AM
https://image.ibb.co/fji7cQ/Alessio.png
When doubling the distance, my dad would be next to the Maltese sample; seems a bit too far imo. But we're dealing with ancient components, perhaps that's what makes it so different. The oracle gives me almost 45% Cypriot and the rest English :p
This is my second cousin 2x removed:
Naples
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.79
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25.61
Natufian 53.75
Sub_Saharan 0.8
Sikeliot
08-23-2017, 01:31 AM
Palermo:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 50.06
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 26.75
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.73
4 Sub_Saharan 2.09
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.38
Palermo:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 50.13
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 24.05
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.33
4 Sub_Saharan 2.74
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.74
Trapani:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 49.56
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 29.53
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.31
4 Sub_Saharan 2.5
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.11
Syracuse:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 49.04
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 29.47
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.07
4 Sub_Saharan 2.39
5 East_Asian 0.74
6 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.3
Ragusa:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 47.89
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 31.54
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.12
4 Sub_Saharan 1.59
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.85
Messina:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 50.43
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.63
4 Sub_Saharan 3.7
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.24
Dodecanese:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 50.85
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 24.63
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.03
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.8
5 East_Asian 0.69
Chios:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 48.46
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 27.14
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.15
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 3
5 East_Asian 0.19
6 Sub_Saharan 0.06
Crete:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 49.6
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 29.19
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.42
4 Sub_Saharan 1.67
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.12
Cyclades:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 49.58
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 27.01
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.17
4 East_Asian 0.94
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.73
6 Sub_Saharan 0.56
Thessaly:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 45.11
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.39
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.01
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 3.43
5 Sub_Saharan 0.07
Epirus:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 44.79
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 33.58
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.87
4 East_Asian 1.92
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.85
Petalpusher
08-23-2017, 07:46 AM
Mine
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.95
2 Natufian 38.87
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 16.78
4 East_Asian 0.40
Mother
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 44.13
2 Natufian 37.27
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.6
Grandmother (just got it)
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 46.04
2 Natufian 37.44
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 16.52
https://image.ibb.co/mY9cBk/Ylla.png
Thank you!!
:)
Ibericus
08-23-2017, 02:51 PM
When doubling the distance, my dad would be next to the Maltese sample; seems a bit too far imo. But we're dealing with ancient components, perhaps that's what makes it so different. The oracle gives me almost 45% Cypriot and the rest English :p
This is my second cousin 2x removed:
Naples
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.79
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 25.61
Natufian 53.75
Sub_Saharan 0.8
https://image.ibb.co/mvQtZ5/Naples.png
Ibericus
08-23-2017, 02:54 PM
Mine
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.95
2 Natufian 38.87
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 16.78
4 East_Asian 0.40
Mother
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 44.13
2 Natufian 37.27
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.6
Grandmother (just got it)
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 46.04
2 Natufian 37.44
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 16.52
https://image.ibb.co/iSyQgk/petal.png
Alessio
08-23-2017, 06:16 PM
https://image.ibb.co/mvQtZ5/Naples.png
exactly what I thought! this doubles the distance perfectly between both my parents and me. I don't know from where they got their samples, but this (AJ, Maltese, Sicilian and Italian_South) can't be good representatives of their given group.
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