R1a haplogroup

[Vlatko Vukovic]

How can we explain that haplogroup "R1a" is common for Slavic, Kurgan and Indo(Aryan) people?

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[Сербо Макеридов]

How can we explain that haplogroup "R1a" is common for Slavic, Kurgan and Indo(Aryan) people?

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R1a is Euro-Asian haplogroup, but there is a many branches of R1a.

Only M-458 and Z-280 are Slavic, rest branches are not Slavic.

[Fractal]

R1a is Euro-Asian haplogroup, but there is a many branches of R1a.

Only M-458 and Z-280 are Slavic, rest branches are not Slavic.

Precisely. And not to mention R1a-z93 originated in India since the oldest samples are found in the subcontinent. I believe the oldest is around 16,000-18,000 years old.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Precisely. And not to mention R1a-z93 originated in India since the oldest samples are found in the subcontinent. I believe the oldest is around 16,000-18,000 years old.

R1a-Z93 come to India with Aryan expansion around 1500BC.
R1a is originating is western Siberia.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2f/a7/39/2fa739160d49273e6279b278d8fa6711.png

[Fractal]

R1a-Z93 come to India with Aryan expansion around 1500BC.
R1a is originating is western Siberia.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2f/a7/39/2fa739160d49273e6279b278d8fa6711.png

Aryan Invasion has already been debunked.

Indo-Aryans are indigenous to India, and did not come from the Steppes. It's vice versa, the moved westwards and founded the Mitanni civilization in Northern Syria among many others.

The R1a-z93 haplogroup is indigenous to India and the oldest examples of R1a are 18,000 years old, all found in the Indian subcontinent.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Aryan Invasion has already been debunked.

Indo-Aryans are indigenous to India, and did not come from the Steppes. It's vice versa, the moved westwards and founded the Mitanni civilization in Northern Syria among many others.

The R1a-z93 haplogroup is indigenous to India and the oldest examples of R1a are 18,000 years old, all found in the Indian subcontinent.

Scythians were holders of R1a-Z93, and they were blonde and red hair people, and Indians have black hair and brown skin.

Read Anatole Klyosov about origin of R1a, that haplogroup is alien in India.

Scythians were pure white people, Nordids + CM.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bc/76/f5/bc76f5880c14f90173d2685487af707a--beautiful-men-warriors.jpg

https://youtu.be/jkeWai9hzog

[Fractal]

Scythians were holders of R1a-Z93, and they were blonde and red hair people, and Indians have black hair and brown skin.

Read Anatole Klyosov about origin of R1a, that haplogroup is alien in India.

Scythians were pure white people, Nordids + CM.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bc/76/f5/bc76f5880c14f90173d2685487af707a--beautiful-men-warriors.jpg

https://youtu.be/jkeWai9hzog

100% fabricated lie. The ancient Vedic texts such as the Upanishads, the Vedas and the Bhagavad Gita make it very clear that Scythians (Sakhas) are outsiders of Indo-Aryan civilization and even considered them foreigners and enemies.

at any rate what does this prove anyway? Europeans themselves are a mix of repeated ancient invasions, of which the Indo-Europeans are just one group, who subjugated the native Old Europeans.

[Ülev]

In fact R1ussians are Hindu related - here proof:


https://youtu.be/jUZO0zpHhOA

[Fractal]

In fact R1ussians are Hindu related - here proof:


https://youtu.be/jUZO0zpHhOA

We are both good at sending rockets into space, at mathematics, and various other endeavors. cultural accomplishments I suppose.

[Сербо Макеридов]

100% fabricated lie. The ancient Vedic texts such as the Upanishads, the Vedas and the Bhagavad Gita make it very clear that Scythians (Sakhas) are outsiders of Indo-Aryan civilization and even considered them foreigners and enemies.

at any rate what does this prove anyway? Europeans themselves are a mix of repeated ancient invasions, of which the Indo-Europeans are just one group, who subjugated the native Old Europeans.

Indo-Europeans were not swarty people with brown skin like Indians, they had pale skin and light hair/eyes.

R1a-Z93 i not native in India, R1a-Z93 come to the India with Aryan expansion around 1500 BC.

Native haplogroup in India is H, and that haplogroup in most dominant in India, also H haplogroup is most dominant among Gypsies, because they come from India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics_and_archeogenetics_of_South_Asia#Haplogro up_H

[Fractal]

Indo-Europeans were not swarty people with brown skin like Indians, they had pale skin and light hair/eyes.

R1a-Z93 i not native in India, R1a-Z93 come to the India with Aryan expansion around 1500 BC.

Native haplogroup in India is H, and that haplogroup in most dominant in India, also H haplogroup is most dominant among Gypsies, because they come from India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics_and_archeogenetics_of_South_Asia#Haplogro up_H

Indo-Europeans who invaded or migrated into India were also not blonde haired, blue eyed or looked anything like modern day Europeans including yourself. There is simply no evidence for this also it was a migration and not an invasion if it did happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyz_SLEXr2w

[Lollipop]

Hello and welcome to the forum.Ignore the stinky indian above.Are you R1a?

[Fractal]

In fact R1ussians are Hindu related - here proof:


https://youtu.be/jUZO0zpHhOA

If there was any Slavic group Indians would be related to (which they are not) it would definitely be Russians and not some irrelevant Romanians, Serbs or Bosniaks LOL.

[Kelmendasi]

Indo-Europeans who invaded or migrated into India were also not blonde haired, blue eyed or looked anything like modern day Europeans including yourself. There is simply no evidence for this also it was a migration and not an invasion if it did happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyz_SLEXr2w
Bullshit. Study on the SNPs of Indo-Europeans show that they were light in features and skin and their reconstructions look European. There is some evidence, the study on pre-Indo-Aryan India showed haplogroups like L and H showing up but not R1a-Z93 or any R1a gor that matter I wonder why....

[Jana]

Scythians were holders of R1a-Z93, and they were blonde and red hair people, and Indians have black hair and brown skin.
Read Anatole Klyosov about origin of R1a, that haplogroup is alien in India.
Scythians were pure white people, Nordids + CM.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bc/76/f5/bc76f5880c14f90173d2685487af707a--beautiful-men-warriors.jpg

https://youtu.be/jkeWai9hzog

False. Indo-Europeans were not blonde nordics at least not in majority. They were mixture of many phenotypes and many were mongoloid admixed as ancient genomes reveal.

Yamnaya were black haired, brown-eyed and fair skinned in majority. Corded Ware were lighter.

While you are right about origins of R1 from Siberia, this white-washing of Indo-Europeans is laughable, they were genetically different than modern Europeans and probably strange looking for modern standards.

[Lollipop]

False. Indo-Europeans were not blonde nordics at least not in majority. They were mixture of many phenotypes and many were mongoloid admixed as ancient genomes reveal.

Yamnaya were black haired, brown-eyed and fair skinned in majority. Corded Ware were lighter.

While you are right about origins of R1 from Siberia, this white-washing of Indo-Europeans is laughable, they were genetically different than modern Europeans and probably strange looking for modern standards.

You must be joking,put your hands on a book and stop spreading bullshit here.Almost all ancient indo-european populations were found to be 100% caucasian, and of nordoid anthropology.
Most of the steppe was invaded by mongoloids, same as most of Middle East was invaded by arabsWhat was left of Indo-Europeans admixed with mongols,however those who invaded Europe were 100% europeans mostly blonde,blue eyed people as historical writings tell us about their look or even their own depictions.

By the way, you don't look Nordid at all.

[Fractal]

False. Indo-Europeans were not blonde nordics at least not in majority. They were mixture of many phenotypes and many were mongoloid admixed as ancient genomes reveal.

Yamnaya were black haired, brown-eyed and fair skinned in majority. Corded Ware were lighter.

While you are right about origins of R1 from Siberia, this white-washing of Indo-Europeans is laughable, they were genetically different than modern Europeans and probably strange looking for modern standards.

The ones who invaded Europe were definitely mongoloid admixed (Ancestral North Eurasians).

[Vlatko Vukovic]

The ones who invaded Europe were definitely mongoloid admixed (Ancestral North Eurasians).

Base of Indian people are Dravids... So Dravids are not even Indo-European and they dont have any relations with Slavs. Slavs are white people with brown or blond hair... totally different then Indian peoples. Only one thing relate Slavs and Old Indians (Not Dravids). That thing is Sanskrit. Many Slavic words can be founded in Sanskrit, but that language is dead now...

[Jana]

You must be joking,put your hands on a book and stop spreading bullshit here.Almost all ancient indo-european populations were found to be 100% caucasian, and of nordoid anthropology.
Most of the steppe was invaded by mongoloids, same as most of Middle East was invaded by arabsWhat was left of Indo-Europeans admixed with mongols,however those who invaded Europe were 100% europeans mostly blonde,blue eyed people as historical writings tell us about their look or even their own depictions.

By the way, you don't look Nordid at all.

Lol, what a bunch of crap.
We have many Schyntian genomes and some were almost Eurasians while others are more Eastern European. Yamnaya were swarthy people, don't care if it suits your ideas or not, their SNPs for pigmentation were tested. There were nordics, east baltids, pontids and Eurasians among PIE people.

And yes, I look mainly nordic, not like those round-headed steppe folk.

[Fractal]

Base of Indian people are Dravids... So Dravids are not even Indo-European and they dont have any relations with Slavs. Slavs are white people with brown or blond hair... totally different then Indian peoples. Only one thing relate Slavs and Old Indians (Not Dravids). That thing is Sanskrit. Many Slavic words can be founded in Sanskrit, but that language is dead now...

Slavs had no connection with Indo-Aryans, I agree. Indo-Aryans my ancestors originated in Northern India and spread westwards. This is known as the Out of India Theory.

The base of India is not Dravids since the majority of the population speaks Indo-Aryan languages, Gujaratis, Hindi, Bengali, Marathi, etc

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Slavs had no connection with Indo-Aryans, I agree. Indo-Aryans my ancestors originated in Northern India and spread westwards. This is known as the Out of India Theory.

The base of India is not Dravids since the majority of the population speaks Indo-Aryan languages, Gujaratis, Hindi, Bengali, Marathi, etc

Slavic are specific, indo-aryan specific, just both of them are Indo-European.

[Jana]

The ones who invaded Europe were definitely mongoloid admixed (Ancestral North Eurasians).
They were pred. Europid but eastern Indo-Europeans did have mongoloid admixure.

[Fractal]

They were pred. Europid but eastern Indo-Europeans did have mongoloid admixure.

I'm not sure why a bunch of non-Indians are hell bent on proving Aryans invaded India when Europe was invaded by Indo-European tribes too.

At the end of the day comparing the cultural/civilizational achievements of India to Romania or Albania is literally like comparing a BMW to a 1980 ford pinto

[Vlatko Vukovic]

They were pred. Europid but eastern Indo-Europeans did have mongoloid admixure.

Maybe just Russians have Mongoloid admixure, no one else.

[Lollipop]

Lol, what a bunch of crap.
We have many Schyntian genomes and some were almost Eurasians while others are more Eastern European. Yamnaya were swarthy people, don't care if it suits your ideas or not, their SNPs for pigmentation were tested. There were nordics, east baltids, pontids and Eurasians among PIE people.

And yes, I look mainly nordic, not like those round-headed steppe folk.

No historian at that time wrote of scythians as mongoloids and they have no mongoloids in their depiction.However they agree is that scythians were blonde headed ,sometimes redheared, blue eyed nordic looking people.You are not nordic,you are a weird looking black eyebrowed jewish-german-albanian mulata
Just because you have a long head, it does not mean you are nordid.You don't pass in the countries were Nordid resides.
You don't have scythian genomes, you have mongolo-scythian genomes from the times when mongoloids already have swarmed in their territory.It's like today testing south-slav and grouping them as racially steppe, when they are racially balkan.
Look at the scythian skulls, they were fully europoid and nordoid.


We have seen that the Scythians and Sarmatians, although they undoubtedly included in their ranks many individuals of different political affiliations, formed nevertheless a quite constant principal racial type, which was essentially Iranian and a form of Nordic. In its characteristic low vault, as in other dimensions, it specifically resembled the earlier eastern European and central Asiatic Nordic form. It was essentially a member of the racial cluster associated with the spread of Satem Indo-European speech in both eastern Europe and Asia.


Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Scythians, even those in the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly "Europid" features, although mixed 'Euro-mongoloid" phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.[129]

[Jana]

I'm not sure why a bunch of non-Indians are hell bent on proving Aryans invaded India when Europe was invaded by Indo-European tribes too.

At the end of the day comparing the cultural/civilizational achievements of India to Romania or Albania is literally like comparing a BMW to a 1980 ford pinto

Indo-Europeans were very warlike conquerors, but they were quite unremarkable, culturally speaking.
Dravidians were on higher civilisational levels than Aryans, but they bacame their subjects.

All steppe nomads were primitive, I don't see anything special about them.

[Fractal]

Bullshit. Study on the SNPs of Indo-Europeans show that they were light in features and skin and their reconstructions look European. There is some evidence, the study on pre-Indo-Aryan India showed haplogroups like L and H showing up but not R1a-Z93 or any R1a gor that matter I wonder why....

So what, you had nothing absolutely to do with any of those Indo-Aryans because they are indigenous to India but if they were not you still wouldn't have had anything to do with them.

Also stop dick riding on your supposedly superior genetics when no one in the USA or UK can point to Albania on the map while most people know where India is located and most people learn about Ancient India in school. What has Albania ever accomplished? absolutely nothing

[Fractal]

Indo-Europeans were very warlike conquerors, but they were quite unremarkable, culturally speaking.
Dravidians were on higher civilisational levels than Aryans, but they bacame their subjects.

All steppe nomads were primitive, I don't see anything special about them.

This. +100000

[Lollipop]

So what, you had nothing absolutely to do with any of those Indo-Aryans because they are indigenous to India but if they were not you still wouldn't have had anything to do with them.

Also stop dick riding on your supposedly superior genetics when no one in the USA or UK can point to Albania on the map while most people know where India is located and most people learn about Ancient India in school. What has Albania ever accomplished? absolutely nothing

Aryans were not indigenous to India.The father clade of R1a-z93 was found in Poland.Get fucked piece of shit eating dravidian.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

So what, you had nothing absolutely to do with any of those Indo-Aryans because they are indigenous to India but if they were not you still wouldn't have had anything to do with them.

Also stop dick riding on your supposedly superior genetics when no one in the USA or UK can point to Albania on the map while most people know where India is located and most people learn about Ancient India in school. What has Albania ever accomplished? absolutely nothing

India is not only "Great country". A lot of countries had bigger civilisation level then India, so what?

[Fractal]

Aryans were not indigenous to India.The father clade of R1a-z93 was found in Poland.Get fucked piece of shit eating dravidian.

Yes they were. Indo-Aryans originated in India and moved westward. That's already been proven by genetics, archaeology, and vedic textual sources. What would it matter do you poor dalit Romanian?

And you're acting like any of us Indians actually give a shit about this topic, lmao. You're literally like garbage in the UK, i can even show you articles of how Romanians are seen there.

[Jana]

No historian at that time wrote of scythians as mongoloids and they have no mongoloids in their depiction.However they agree is that scythians were blonde headed ,sometimes redheared, blue eyed nordic looking people.You are not nordic,you are a weird looking black eyebrowed jewish-german-albanian mulata
Just because you have a long head, it does not mean you are nordid.You don't pass in the countries were Nordid resides.
Why don't you fuck off, imbecile ? I am neither German, nor Jewish and especially not Albanian. And I pass in Scandinavia extremely easy, as Swedish and Norwegian members wrote in my classification thread.
I have seen your peasant face but do not have the need to comment it, if you continue with abuse towards me you will get brutal replies.


You don't have scythian genomes, you have mongolo-scythian genomes from the times when mongoloids already have swarmed in their territory.It's like today testing south-slav and grouping them as racially steppe, when they are racially balkan.
Look at the scythian skulls, they were fully europoid and nordoid.
Scientific world made huge conspiracy against Schytians, how tragic.
Steppe people were always extremely mixed because they married with women outside of their socieites. Your nazi fantasies have no scientific value at all.

[Lollipop]

Yes they were. Indo-Aryans originated in India and moved westward. That's already been proven by genetics, archaeology, and vedic textual sources. What would it matter do you poor dalit Romanian?

Keep barking dog, no one is giving you any attention.

[Fractal]

Keep barking dog, no one is giving you any attention.

Whatever dude,. Romanians are literally nobodies to us. No one even knows where Romania is located on the map, nor Albania. you're literally making me laugh.

[Lollipop]

Why don't you fuck off, imbecile ? I am neither German, nor Jewish and especially not Albanian. And I pass in Scandinavia extremely easy, as Swedish and Norwegian members wrote in my classification thread.
I have seen your peasant face but do not have the need to comment it, if you continue with abuse towards me you will get brutal replies.


Scientific world made huge conspiracy against Schytians, how tragic.
Steppe people were always extremely mixed because they married with women outside of their socieites. Your nazi fantasies have no scientific value at all.

No, you don't pass in Scandinavia, I have relatives there.According to the average person if you are tall, with long face and have blue eyes and atleast brown hair you can pass in Scandinavia.Unfortunately, real anthropologists and common logic disagrees with you.You yourself said that you're a comedical cocktail mix of german, joo and bosniak(albanian) and your when you posted your grandma people,including you,said she looks uralid.If you have seen myself, then surely you realise that I look more North-west european than both you and your boyfriend combined.
What world conspiracy?Now you sound like greeks from TA with their anti-med NWO zionist secret plan.


In artworks, the Scythians are portrayed exhibiting European traits.[130] In Histories, the 5th-century Greek historian Herodotus describes the Budini of Scythia as red-haired and grey-eyed.[130] In the 5th century BC, Greek physician Hippocrates argued that the Scythians have purron (ruddy) skin.[130][131] In the 3rd century BC, the Greek poet Callimachus described the Arismapes (Arimaspi) of Scythia as fair-haired.[130][132] The 2nd century BC Han Chinese envoy Zhang Qian described the Sai (Scythians) as having yellow (probably meaning hazel or green), and blue eyes.[130] In Natural History, the 1st century AD Roman author Pliny the Elder characterizes the Seres, sometimes identified as Iranians (Scythians) or Tocharians, as red-haired and blue-eyed.[130][133] In the late 2nd century AD, the Christian theologian Clement of Alexandria says that the Scythians are fair-haired.[130][134] The 2nd century Greek philosopher Polemon includes the Scythians among the northern peoples characterized by red hair and blue-grey eyes.[130] In the late 2nd or early 3rd century AD, the Greek physician Galen declares that Sarmatians, Scythians and other northern peoples have reddish hair.[130][135] The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans, a people closely related to the Scythians, were tall, blond and light-eyed.[136] The 4th century bishop of Nyssa Gregory of Nyssa wrote that the Scythians were fair skinned and blond haired.[137] The 5th-century physician Adamantius, who often follow Polemon, describes the Scythians are fair-haired.[130][138] It is possible that the later physical descriptions by Adamantius and Gregory of Scythians refer to East Germanic tribes, as the latter were frequently referred to as "Scythians" in Roman sources at that time.Herodotus wrote about an enormous city, Gelonus, in the northern part of Scythia[139]

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Whatever dude,. Romanians are literally nobodies to us. No one even knows where Romania is located on the map, nor Albania. you're literally making me laugh.

Everybody who is educated will know where is Albania or Romania on the map, LOL.

[Stears]

No historian at that time wrote of scythians as mongoloids and they have no mongoloids in their depiction.However they agree is that scythians were blonde headed ,sometimes redheared, blue eyed nordic looking people.You are not nordic,you are a weird looking black eyebrowed jewish-german-albanian mulata
Just because you have a long head, it does not mean you are nordid.You don't pass in the countries were Nordid resides.
You don't have scythian genomes, you have mongolo-scythian genomes from the times when mongoloids already have swarmed in their territory.It's like today testing south-slav and grouping them as racially steppe, when they are racially balkan.
Look at the scythian skulls, they were fully europoid and nordoid.

ugly swarty dwarf vlacho-gypsy, do you have some brain problem in your eastern looking down-syndrome romanian ballon-head?

[Stears]

No, you don't pass in Scandinavia, I have relatives there.According to the average person if you are tall, with long face and have blue eyes and atleast brown hair you can pass in Scandinavia.Unfortunately, real anthropologists and common logic disagrees with you.You yourself said that you're a comedical cocktail mix of german, joo and bosniak(albanian) and your when you posted your grandma people,including you,said she looks uralid.If you have seen myself, then surely you realise that I look more North-west european than both you and your boyfriend combined.
What world conspiracy?Now you sound like greeks from TA with their anti-med NWO zionist secret plan.

you look north-west european ? it is a good joke. what is next, gypsies look British ? laughable clown.

[Lollipop]

ugly swarty dwarf vlacho-gypsy, do you have some brain problem in your eastern looking down-syndrome romanian ballon-head?

So Сука Блять иди нахуй .I'm sure, judging by the generic slavshit face, that you will understand it.

[Fractal]

So Сука Блять иди нахуй .I'm sure, judging by the generic slavshit face, that you will understand it.

Romanians and Albanians are considered bacterial pus in the UK and USA, (or shall I just say shit, but I won't since you'll come by saying Im shit because of dark skin hahaha)

[Stears]

So Сука Блять иди нахуй .I'm sure, judging by the generic slavshit face, that you will understand it.

I can't understand the semi-asian orthodox alphabet of your vlach ancestors.
Judging by the genetics and your average anthropological look, you are not real europeans similar to other orthodox balkan and eastern European monkey Nations.

[Lollipop]

I can't understand the semi-asian orthodox alphabet of your vlach ancestors.
Judging by the genetics and your average anthropological look, you are not real europeans similar to other orthodox balkan and eastern European monkey Nations.

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[Stears]

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You can use photoshop whenever you want, it won't change the painful reality about your weird less-european anthropological look.

[Kelmendasi]

So what, you had nothing absolutely to do with any of those Indo-Aryans because they are indigenous to India but if they were not you still wouldn't have had anything to do with them.

Also stop dick riding on your supposedly superior genetics when no one in the USA or UK can point to Albania on the map while most people know where India is located and most people learn about Ancient India in school. What has Albania ever accomplished? absolutely nothing
Why are you so butthurt lol? You do see the flaw in your theory right? The fact that the Sintasha culture which is the culture that Indo-Iranian and Indo-Aryan stem from derives from the corded ware culture debunks your native theory, as well as the fact that your theory is mainly politically fueled and has been debunked through genetic and historical studies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Aryans. Stop using insults for all of your arguments it shows that you are butthurt and that you have no evidence to back your statement up so you resort to insults

[Lollipop]

You can use photoshop whenever you want, it won't change the painful reality about your weird less-european anthropological look.

Your face is not photoshoped there,its only cropped.

[Dick]

:voodoo::punjabidance

[Vlatko Vukovic]

You can use photoshop whenever you want, it won't change the painful reality about your weird less-european anthropological look.

Eastern European monkey Nations??? Why insult Russians, Ukraines, Belarus? They all have better looking then Mongol Hungarians.

[Fractal]

I can't understand the semi-asian orthodox alphabet of your vlach ancestors.
Judging by the genetics and your average anthropological look, you are not real europeans similar to other orthodox balkan and eastern European monkey Nations.

:rotfl:

[Kelmendasi]

Romanians and Albanians are considered bacterial pus in the UK and USA, (or shall I just say shit, but I won't since you'll come by saying Im shit because of dark skin hahaha)
Indians are hated on more than Albanians here in England

[Stears]

Eastern European monkey Nations??? Why insult Russians, Ukraines, Belarus? They all have better looking then Mongol Hungarians.

Muslim bosnian, you are not so European. Hungarians are genetically more European than balkanite middle-eastern infected and eastern European mongoloid-infected semi-asian orthodox Nations. Deal with it.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Muslim bosnian, you are not so European. Hungarians are genetically more European than balkanite middle-eastern infected and eastern European mongoloid-infected semi-asian orthodox Nations. Deal with it.

You really belive in this? Continue with your dreams. You look little European becouse you pick up our Slavic genetics. When Hungarians came in Europe, your religion was Tengri :D :D Tengri is Mongol religion. And now you call yourself European. Eastern Europe kicked your nazi asses, that is why you have complex :D

[Fractal]

Indians are hated on more than Albanians here in England

haha yeah but not in the USA. Here you are seen on the same level as Latinos, like the rest of you irrelevant low IQ Yugoslavs. That's not an insult simply true.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

haha yeah but not in the USA. Here you are seen on the same level as Latinos, like the rest of you irrelevant low IQ Yugoslavs. That's not an insult simply true.

Low IQ Yugoslavs?? Funny. Becouse Nikola Tesla invented electricity for all world. With low IQ :D

[Arjana]

Low IQ Yugoslavs?? Funny. Becouse Nikola Tesla invented electricity for all world. With low IQ :D

Nikola Tesla was a unique case and electricity Is discovered , not invented.

[Lollipop]

Nikola Tesla was a unique case and electricity Is discovered , not invented.

Nikola Tesla invented the Alternating Current.

[Arjana]

Romanians and Albanians are considered bacterial pus in the UK and USA, (or shall I just say shit, but I won't since you'll come by saying Im shit because of dark skin hahaha)

Dude you are an Indian gypsy.

People get away from you because of your ugly looks and smell.

Half of your population defecates outside.

You are like the lowest people in the planet and you gypsies are like 1.3 billion.

Albanians have ruled from Sudan to eastern Europe and have been in the top of the highest empires since ancient times.

1.3 billion Indian gypsies vs 8.5 million Albanians

[Arjana]

Nikola Tesla invented the Alternating Current.

That is something totally different to what he said.

alternating current has been partially applied since the 18th century.

[Stears]

You really belive in this? Continue with your dreams. You look little European becouse you pick up our Slavic genetics. When Hungarians came in Europe, your religion was Tengri :D :D Tengri is Mongol religion. And now you call yourself European. Eastern Europe kicked your nazi asses, that is why you have complex :D

You are anthropological less white, it is enough to see your balkanic people, your genetics is less European too. You have semi-asian primitive culture, your social infrastructural economic and cultural development are not European. You are Untermensch in every aspects. Why is it hurts you so much?

[Fractal]

Dude you are an Indian gypsy.

People get away from you because of your ugly looks and smell.

Half of your population defecates outside.

You are like the lowest people in the planet and you gypsies are like 1.3 billion.

Albanians have ruled from Sudan to eastern Europe and have been in the top of the highest empires since ancient times.

1.3 billion Indian gypsies vs 8.5 million Albanians

Even Gypsies are considered higher than Albanians here in America, sorry but that's just a fact. I don't know anything about Romas, I'm a Hindu Indian.

Here you'd be sweeping our floors and mowing our lawns.

Stay in your place lady

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Nikola Tesla was a unique case and electricity Is discovered , not invented.

Unique case or not, all world using electricity which is discovered by South Slav, and very stupid is that Indian speaking about our IQ.

[Lollipop]

That is something totally different to what he said.

alternating current has been partially applied since the 18th century.

There was no practical use for AC before Tesla.Many people have contributed to the alternating current system, but Nikola Tesla invented the first AC motor and laid the AC standard,thus he invented the Alternating Current.

[Dibran]

Indians are hated on more than Albanians here in England

Nothing against Indians myself, but, when one feels the need to boast about some sense of purity they think they have, it makes me really laugh.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

You are anthropological less white, it is enough to see your balkanic people, your genetics is less European too. You have semi-asian primitive culture, your social infrastructural economic and cultural development are not European. You are Untermensch in every aspects. Why is it hurts you so much?

"Untermensch" , hahah, here we are Nazi. Hurts me? From mongol-magyar? No.
These "Untermensch" people destroyed all your "Superior" armies :D Where is Hitler? Where is Napoleon? Turks? All defeated and kicked by Slavs :)

[Dibran]

Even Gypsies are considered higher than Albanians here in America, sorry but that's just a fact. I don't know anything about Romas, I'm a Hindu Indian.

Here you'd be sweeping our floors and mowing our lawns.

Stay in your place lady

Indians are actually quite looked down upon in the USA. You're full of shit. You also can't learn to speak English properly even after being born and raised here. You literally work at all the 7/11s and convenient stores. It's Chinese and Koreans who are the Asians looked at favorably here in the USA.

Albanians are literally too small of a minority in the USA to be considered an impactful entity to be taken notice of in the first place. Outside of NY and Detroit, the Albanian community is minor and scattered. Don't spew shit out your mouth. You're a backwards third world superstitious ass crack of a nation and you're talking about your ancestors who weren't even originally from India. Assuming you're R1a.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

You must be joking,put your hands on a book and stop spreading bullshit here.Almost all ancient indo-european populations were found to be 100% caucasian, and of nordoid anthropology.
Most of the steppe was invaded by mongoloids, same as most of Middle East was invaded by arabsWhat was left of Indo-Europeans admixed with mongols,however those who invaded Europe were 100% europeans mostly blonde,blue eyed people as historical writings tell us about their look or even their own depictions.

By the way, you don't look Nordid at all.

Scythian samples show decent amount East Asian and Siberian too, many were not really 100% caucasian as you suggest.

[Lollipop]

Scythian samples show decent amount East Asian and Siberian too, many were not really 100% caucasian as you suggest.

as i said scythians who remained got totally conquered,at the time of their Europe invasion they were european by far,with a few mongols here and there..

[Fractal]

Indians are actually quite looked down upon in the USA. You're full of shit. You also can't learn to speak English properly even after being born and raised here. You literally work at all the 7/11s and convenient stores. It's Chinese and Koreans who are the Asians looked at favorably here in the USA.

Albanians are literally too small of a minority in the USA to be considered an impactful entity to be taken notice of in the first place. Outside of NY and Detroit, the Albanian community is minor and scattered. Don't spew shit out your mouth. You're a backwards third world superstitious ass crack of a nation and you're talking about your ancestors who weren't even originally from India. Assuming you're R1a.

hahah in your wildest dreams

Indian American : $107,390[2]

Albanian American : $63,649[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_hous ehold_income

Get lost. Indians are the top earners in the USA and the most educated and affluent. Mexicans and Gypsies would be seen as higher than Albanians in the USA, and they are in my opinion.

[Fractal]

Albanians are worthless pale SHIT in the USA, and so are Romanians and Yugoslavs. even Mexicans and Gypsies are more desirable than these crud.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/10/FT_16.09.29_wealthReligiousGroups-3.png

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Albanians are worthless pale SHIT in the USA, and so are Romanians and Yugoslavs. even Mexicans and Gypsies are more desirable than these crud.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/10/FT_16.09.29_wealthReligiousGroups-3.png

You are using Yugoslav electricity :D Turn off our project :D

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Muslim bosnian, you are not so European. Hungarians are genetically more European than balkanite middle-eastern infected and eastern European mongoloid-infected semi-asian orthodox Nations. Deal with it.

Your gf is part bosniak, doesn't this bother not to you or her in any way given that you consider them non European and not worth of mixing your HunARYAN genes with them?

[Сербо Макеридов]

Slavs had no connection with Indo-Aryans, I agree. Indo-Aryans my ancestors originated in Northern India and spread westwards. This is known as the Out of India Theory.

The base of India is not Dravids since the majority of the population speaks Indo-Aryan languages, Gujaratis, Hindi, Bengali, Marathi, etc

Native Indians are Dravidians (negroid race), untile Aryan invasion all Indians looks like Aborigines.

Aryans were mixed with negroid Draviadians, and because of that northern Indians looks liks Gypsies (lighter than southern Indians).

Aryans brought to India Sanskrit, Hinduism, the caste system and everithing else, until Aryans arrival India were primitive cociety as Bushmans.

Caste system is created by Aryans to prevent racial mixing between them and Dravidians, but besides of that racial mixing between white Aryans and negroid Dravidians are happened.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Your gf is part bosniak, doesn't this bother not to you or her in any way given that you consider them non European and not worth of mixing your HunARYAN genes with them?

Hungarians are Uralic people. They dont have nothing to do with Europeans. They even not speak Indo-European language. Magyar is pure Asian language ;)

[Сербо Макеридов]

https://tsaihsing.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/indus-3.jpg?w=550
https://malagabay.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/kurgan-hypothesis_v2.gif

[Сербо Макеридов]

https://malagabay.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/kurgan-hypothesis_v2.gif

[Fractal]

Native Indians are Dravidians (negroid race), untile Aryan invasion all Indians looks like Aborigines.

Aryans were mixed with negroid Draviadians, and because of that northern Indians looks liks Gypsies (lighter than southern Indians).

Aryans brought to India Sanskrit, Hinduism, the caste system and everithing else, until Aryans arrival India were primitive cociety as Bushmans.

Caste system is created by Aryans to prevent racial mixing between them and Dravidians, but besides of that racial mixing between white Aryans and negroid Dravidians are happened.

All of that is 100% false and fabricated bullshit. Hinduism, Sanskrit, the caste system and everything else is indigenous to India. In fact the caste system has been in place for the past 70 generations.

You are more likely more mixed than any Indian is.

[Сербо Макеридов]

All of that is 100% false and fabricated bullshit. Hinduism, Sanskrit, the caste system and everything else is indigenous to India. In fact the caste system has been in place for the past 70 generations.

You are more likely more mixed than any Indian is.

As opposed to you I'm not a Gypsy.

Indians are mostly Dravidians (negroid race) with some Aryan and mongoloid influence.

[Fractal]

As opposed to you I'm not a Gypsy.

Indians are mostly Dravidians (negroid race) with some Aryan and mongoloid influence.

Gypsies in Europe are only 20-30% South Asian and the rest of their mixture is with Europeans and Middle Easterners, and are probably genetically as closer to you. And sorry but Dravidians are not Negroids, and neither are Indo-Aryans.

Gypsies and Mexicans are more desirable than Yugoslavs. you are literally undesirable as nigerians here. :rofl_002:

[Stears]

"Untermensch" , hahah, here we are Nazi. Hurts me? From mongol-magyar? No.
These "Untermensch" people destroyed all your "Superior" armies :D Where is Hitler? Where is Napoleon? Turks? All defeated and kicked by Slavs :)

You were servants of Adolf, he loved muslims. So you are bosnian muslim nazi ? As far as I Know Bosnians were allies of nazis.
Ignorant clown.

[Stears]

Your gf is part bosniak, doesn't this bother not to you or her in any way given that you consider them non European and not worth of mixing your HunARYAN genes with them?

They have non European culture, just ask Feiichy. However she has. Bosnians are muslim Croatians and Serbians, where I said anything about their genetic ?
Balkan people are simply less European, deal with it,.

[Lollipop]

As opposed to you I'm not a Gypsy.

Indians are mostly Dravidians (negroid race) with some Aryan and mongoloid influence.

Indians have no aryan influence,their caucasid influence is from neolitic ,middle east farmers that they mixed with.


They have non European culture, just ask Feiichy. However she has. Bosnians are muslim Croatians and Serbians, where I said anything about their genetic ?
Balkan people are simply less European, deal with it,.

Feiichy has Bosniak ancestry, not Bosnian.

[Fractal]

Indians have no aryan influence,their caucasid influence is from neolitic ,middle east farmers that they mixed with.

Modern day Europeans = Steppe Pastoralists (IE) + Hunter gatherers + Old Europeans + Eastern Neolithic Farmers

Indians are 100% Indic, we're our own race which is a combination of ANI (Ancestral North India) + Ancestral South Indian

[Stears]

Hungarians are Uralic people. They dont have nothing to do with Europeans. They even not speak Indo-European language. Magyar is pure Asian language ;)

Most of IE speakers live in Asia India Pakistan Iran, however most of Finno-Ugric speakers live in Europe.
It is indo-europeans who were gypsy non-white looking immigrants from Asia.

[Stears]

Indians have no aryan influence,their caucasid influence is from neolitic ,middle east farmers that they mixed with.



Feiichy has Bosniak ancestry, not Bosnian.

My GF is Croatian. Her grandfather was son of Bosnian nobleman with Croatian family name who fight against orthodox hordes in ww1. That time no Bosniak people existed. Even the muslims did not want to be part of Serb Russian backward rule...

[Stears]

About the Finno-Ugric and IE language groups.

Just some Hard-facts: Finno-Ugric language group was born in N-Eastern Europe, until the roots of ancient IE language groups go back to Asian continent. In the Eurasian
supercontinent, there are more native speakers of IE languages in the ASIAN continent than in Europen continent. (Just remember the large IE speaking populations of India Pakistan Iran)
However, the 97% of Finno-ugric speaking people live in Europe. Therefore to call finno-ugric languages as "asian languages" is laughable illogical, unscientific and
misleading.


TYPE IN ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA:"Proto Indo Europeans"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans

and see the maps about original ancient IE people!France Britain Italy haven't signifficant proto indoeuropean genes.The Germanic people have also very very low ratio of ancient IE haplogroup markers (R1a),only Eastern Europeans have high ratio of original proto IE haplogroups markers.Western European languages belongs to IE language group,but in very very distant way.(Have you ever heard about Language-shift? The IE linguistic effect spreaded as a lingua franca and as a „dealer language” between many many populations during thousands of years) The real genetical IE people equal with the Eastern European people : and it represent lower culture,technology&lower scientific and economic development in European continent.

ARe you alive, Indo-European gypos ?

[Lollipop]

My GF is Croatian. Her grandfather was son of Bosnian nobleman with Croatian family name who fight against orthodox hordes in ww1. That time no Bosniak people existed. Even the muslims did not want to be part of Serb Russian backward rule...

According to Feiichy, her grandfather was Bosniak muslim, basically the filth of the balkans.She has said it multiple times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtfDi6nb4H8

[Stears]

According to Feiichy, her grandfather was Bosniak muslim, basically the filth of the balkans.She has said it multiple times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtfDi6nb4H8

Idiot. Her grandfather was Catholic. It is his father who was muslim, and he was nobleman.
Only muslims were literate people in Bosnia who lived in towns, orthodox peasant villages were lowest class in there.

YOu are true untermensch people.

[Lollipop]

Idiot. Her grandfather was Catholic. It is his father who was muslim, and he was nobleman.
Only muslims were literate people in Bosnia who lived in towns, orthodox peasant villages were lowest class in there.

YOu are true untermensch people.

Grandfather, Great grandfather.Its the same thing.She has bosniak origin, do you understand this?

[Dick]

About the Finno-Ugric and IE language groups.

Just some Hard-facts: Finno-Ugric language group was born in N-Eastern Europe, until the roots of ancient IE language groups go back to Asian continent. In the Eurasian
supercontinent, there are more native speakers of IE languages in the ASIAN continent than in Europen continent. (Just remember the large IE speaking populations of India Pakistan Iran)
However, the 97% of Finno-ugric speaking people live in Europe. Therefore to call finno-ugric languages as "asian languages" is laughable illogical, unscientific and
misleading.


TYPE IN ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA:"Proto Indo Europeans"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans

and see the maps about original ancient IE people!France Britain Italy haven't signifficant proto indoeuropean genes.The Germanic people have also very very low ratio of ancient IE haplogroup markers (R1a),only Eastern Europeans have high ratio of original proto IE haplogroups markers.Western European languages belongs to IE language group,but in very very distant way.(Have you ever heard about Language-shift? The IE linguistic effect spreaded as a lingua franca and as a „dealer language” between many many populations during thousands of years) The real genetical IE people equal with the Eastern European people : and it represent lower culture,technology&lower scientific and economic development in European continent.

ARe you alive, Indo-European gypos ?

Isn't your r1 ydna Indo-European?

[Stears]

Grandfather, Great grandfather.Its the same thing.She has bosniak origin, do you understand this?
There not exist ''Bosniak'' ethnicity before 20th century, something similar like ''Slovak'' or Ukrainian Macedonian artificial nation.
Bosnian muslims are islamized Croats or Serbs depend on region where they from.

[Lollipop]

There not exist ''Bosniak'' ethnicity before 20th century, something similar like ''Slovak'' or Ukrainian Macedonianartificial nation.
Bosnian muslims are islamized Croats or Serbs depend on region where they from.

Semantics.Ok then.Your girlfriend has muslim balkanite origin.

[JMack]

This is one of the many TA discussions in which all sides are wrong, dumb and massively uninformed.

R1a is Steppe originated, it have been spreaded first by Yamnaya, and they were probably darker for contemporary European standards. The R1 carriers who reached India and Iran were probably of the Irano-Nordid type and the cultures related with them are Sintashta and Andronovo. Many individuals in these cultures were light-haired and light eyed and probably looked a lot like the modern Kalash, Pamiris and some Kashmiris (Dardics in general), these are all Indian Subcontinent or SouthCentral Asian ethnic groups.

The natives of Indian Subcontinent were not ''negroids'' and Dravidians have nothing in common with negroes, lol. The first Dravidian civilizations were created by dark skinned Caucasoids related to Elamites and Sumerians, Indian Subcontinent have deep and ancient culture and they were by no means savages. ''Aryans'' a term that today applies only to Persians/Kalash/Kashmiris/Tocharians and Indo-Aryans were basically a nomadic pastoralist people, nothing so ''great'' about them. Most Ancient Civilizations were founded by non-Aryan caucasoids and even Greeks and Romans have had only minor Steppe input compared to their other ancestries. Nazi fantastic theories are basically fantasies.

Lol at the Hallstatt Nordics people imagine Indo-Europeans would be.

''The spatial frequency distributions of R1a sub-haplogroups conclusively indicate two major groups, one found primarily in Europe and the other confined to Central and South Asia. Beyond the major European versus Asian dichotomy, we describe several younger sub-haplogroups. Based on spatial distributions and diversity patterns within the R1a-M420 clade, particularly rare basal branches detected primarily within Iran and eastern Turkey, we conclude that the initial episodes of haplogroup R1a diversification likely occurred in the vicinity of present-day Iran.''


''So, it seems that three haplogroups that can be connected with Indo-Europeans, R1a, R1b and J2a, are originary from the Zagros area or North/West Iran. R1a had a special diffusion towards the steppes, reaching also Turkic tribes, and the microsatellite variance of M198 in Russia shows how it is more recent there. But leaving aside molecular genetics, also from the anthropological analysis migrations from the South to the European steppes seem to be proved.''

You can't argue with real scientists, niggas.

http://new-indology.blogspot.com.br/2014/10/can-we-finally-identify-real-cradle-of.html

[Stears]

Isn't your r1 ydna Indo-European?
R1b is not the proto-indo-European haplogroup. Read about the language shift and dealer language which happened in Western Europe, they are not descendants of proto-indo-European people.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

They have non European culture, just ask Feiichy. However she has. Bosnians are muslim Croatians and Serbians, where I said anything about their genetic ?
Balkan people are simply less European, deal with it,.

Some Bosniaks were in Ustashe this is true, but not all.

Just compare our languages and that says all:
South Slavic languages (Serbian,Bosnian,Croatian,Slovenian,Macedonian) are Indo-European
Ugro-Finnic languages (Hungarian,Finnish) are non-European (Uralo-Altaic languages)

Deal with it :) We are pure Europeans, even we came in Europe before Magyar peoples.

[Norb]

This is one of the many TA discussions in which all sides are wrong, dumb and massively uninformed.

R1a is Steppe originated, it have been spreaded first by Yamnaya, and they were probably darker for contemporary European standards. The R1 carriers who reached India and Iran were probably of the Irano-Nordid type and the cultures related with them are Sintashta and Andronovo. Many individuals in these cultures were light-haired and light eyed and probably looked a lot like the modern Kalash, Pamiris and some Kashmiris (Dardics in general), these are all Indian Subcontinent or SouthCentral Asian ethnic groups.

The natives of Indian Subcontinent were not ''negroids'' and Dravidians have nothing in common with negroes, lol. The first Dravidian civilizations were created by dark skinned Caucasoids related to Elamites and Sumerians, Indian Subcontinent have deep and ancient culture and they were by no means savages. ''Aryans'' a term that today applies only to Persians/Kalash/Kashmiris/Tocharians and Indo-Aryans were basically a nomadic pastoralist people, nothing so ''great'' about them. Most Ancient Civilizations were founded by non-Aryan caucasoids and even Greeks and Romans have had only minor Steppe input compared to their other ancestries. Nazi fantastic theories are basically fantasies.

Lol at the Hallstatt Nordics people imagine Indo-Europeans would be.

''The spatial frequency distributions of R1a sub-haplogroups conclusively indicate two major groups, one found primarily in Europe and the other confined to Central and South Asia. Beyond the major European versus Asian dichotomy, we describe several younger sub-haplogroups. Based on spatial distributions and diversity patterns within the R1a-M420 clade, particularly rare basal branches detected primarily within Iran and eastern Turkey, we conclude that the initial episodes of haplogroup R1a diversification likely occurred in the vicinity of present-day Iran.''


''So, it seems that three haplogroups that can be connected with Indo-Europeans, R1a, R1b and J2a, are originary from the Zagros area or North/West Iran. R1a had a special diffusion towards the steppes, reaching also Turkic tribes, and the microsatellite variance of M198 in Russia shows how it is more recent there. But leaving aside molecular genetics, also from the anthropological analysis migrations from the South to the European steppes seem to be proved.''

You can't argue with real scientists, niggas.

http://new-indology.blogspot.com.br/2014/10/can-we-finally-identify-real-cradle-of.html

what does this mean?

[Lollipop]

R1b is not the proto-indo-European haplogroup. Read about the language shift and dealer language which happened in Western Europe, they are not descendants of proto-indo-European people.

So who are R1b people according to you?

[JMack]

what does this mean?

Exactly what I wrote.

If you need translation, I give it here: Indo-Europeans probably looked different from modern modern nordic populations and the idea of blonde blue-eyed Aryans subjugating dark natives in Europe and India and giving them ''civilization'' is innacurate, it's a nazi pseudo-science, no serious researcher believes in it today.

[Lollipop]

Exactly what I wrote.

If you need translation, I give it here: Indo-Europeans probably looked different from modern modern nordic populations and the idea of blonde blue-eyed Aryans subjugating dark natives in Europe and India and giving them ''civilization'' is innacurate, it's a nazi pseudo-science, no serious researcher believes in it today.

The aryans civilised the native dravidians,who were barely above abo's, hence they were venerated like Gods.I wouldn't say that they were of Irano-nordoid stock either, its that today, most of the original aryans survive in iranoid areas, where they mixed.

[JMack]

The aryans civilised the native dravidians,who were barely above abo's, hence they were venerated like Gods.

It's not true, I know you want to troll Fractal, and he is really a dumbass, but what you wrote is false.

I don't even know why people care so much about Ross here, he is just a harmless dude. If you ignore his lunacy he is even enjoyable.

[Lollipop]

It's not true, I know you want to troll Fractal, and he is really a dumbass, but what you wrote is false.

I don't even know why people care so much about Ross here, he is just a harmless dude. If you ignore his lunacy he is even enjoyable.

I don't want to troll Fractal,I'm just saying it like it is.The aryans DID civilize the native dravidians, there are even books about it, read Vedas.

[Fractal]

It's not true, I know you want to troll Fractal, and he is really a dumbass, but what you wrote is false.

I don't even know why people care so much about Ross here, he is just a harmless dude. If you ignore his lunacy he is even enjoyable.

lol

[Vlatko Vukovic]

It's not true, I know you want to troll Fractal, and he is really a dumbass, but what you wrote is false.

I don't even know why people care so much about Ross here, he is just a harmless dude. If you ignore his lunacy he is even enjoyable.

Of course proto Indo-Europeans didnt have blond hair and blue eyes. Some scientists claimed that they had brown hair.

[Fractal]

I don't want to troll Fractal,I'm just saying it like it is.The aryans DID civilize the native dravidians, there are even books about it, read Vedas.

You're a deluded idiot. Dravidians were not Negroids for one and were already more civilized than Aryans. Hinduism dates back before 1500 BC and there is mountains of evidence this.

[Lollipop]

You're a deluded idiot. Dravidians were not Negroids for one and were already more civilized than Aryans. Hinduism dates back before 1500 BC and there is mountains of evidence this.

That's nice to hear but aryans came in India before 1500 BC too and it's full of european pagan symbolic.

[Fractal]

That's nice to hear but aryans came in India before 1500 BC too and it's full of european pagan symbolic.

Wrong.

[JMack]

I don't want to troll Fractal,I'm just saying it like it is.The aryans DID civilize the native dravidians, there are even books about it, read Vedas.

I have read some Vedas, Bhagavad Gita, Puranas, Brahmanas and Upanishads. There's not even one trace of Nordic Aryans subjugating Dravidians. Indus Valley Civilization, that was probably Dravidian, have fallen due to climatic reasons.

According to most recent scholars, like Asko Parpola, the fights described in the Rg-Veda are basically between the first wave of ''Aryans'' in the Indian Subcontinent and another invading Indo-Iranian group, the Dasas. They have been interpreted by Nazis as being Dravidians, but scholars demonstrated it is false. And they probably looked similar, since both were Indo-Iranians.

Read the link I posted anyway, it have lots of very recent information.

[Fractal]

Where is Butlerking when you need him.

[Lollipop]

I have read some Vedas, Bhagavad Gita, Puranas, Brahmanas and Upanishads. There's not even one trace of Nordic Aryans subjugating Dravidians. Indus Valley Civilization, that was probably Dravidian, have fallen due to climatic reasons.

According to most recent scholars, like Asko Parpola, the fights described in the Rg-Veda are basically between the first wave of ''Aryans'' in the Indian Subcontinent and another invading Indo-Iranian group, the Dasas. They have been interpreted by Nazis as being Dravidians, but scholars demonstrated it is false. And they probably looked similar, since both were Indo-Iranians.

Read the link I posted anyway, it have lots of very recent information.

The Indus Valley CIvilization was not even situated in South India, where the bulk of the dravidians live and aryans were present at atleast 3000BC in India.
Face it, the aryans brought everything , from fire and wheel to the language.In ancient aryan writtings, the aryans were like Gods compared to the locals.

[Fractal]

The Indus Valley CIvilization was not even situated in South India, where the bulk of the dravidians live and aryans were present at atleast 3000BC in India.
Face it, the aryans brought everything , from fire and wheel to the language.In ancient aryan writtings, the aryans were like Gods compared to the locals.

Wrong. The inhabitants of the Indus Valley Civilization are also the ones who later developed Vedic Hinduism. Aryan Invasion has been debunked

https://factmuseum.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ancient-1.jpg

[Dick]

The Indus Valley CIvilization was not even situated in South India, where the bulk of the dravidians live and aryans were present at atleast 3000BC in India.
Face it, the aryans brought everything , from fire and wheel to the language.

They forgot to bring the toilet with them.

[JMack]

Where is Butlerking when you need him.

You should start to read and learn the things properly instead of simply bragging insults all the time. This way you will ''protect'' your culture better.

Listen, I don't have anything against Indians, I even like India since I visited it and have interest in Indian culture, what you do here sometimes only causes trouble to India and Indians imo. If you think people are saying bullshit or something like that you can just ignore them anyway, no need to insult anyone.

You called balkanites ''low level'' here, but you act exactly like a lot of them. Everyone who wishes to be ''superior'' must demonstrate it first with acts, not with mere words.

[Tauromachos]

I have read some Vedas, Bhagavad Gita, Puranas, Brahmanas and Upanishads. There's not even one trace of Nordic Aryans subjugating Dravidians. Indus Valley Civilization, that was probably Dravidian, have fallen due to climatic reasons.

According to most recent scholars, like Asko Parpola, the fights described in the Rg-Veda are basically between the first wave of ''Aryans'' in the Indian Subcontinent and another invading Indo-Iranian group, the Dasas. They have been interpreted by Nazis as being Dravidians, but scholars demonstrated it is false. And they probably looked similar, since both were Indo-Iranians.

Read the link I posted anyway, it have lots of very recent information.

The Vedic Indians or so called Aryans where light skinned compared to the native Dravidians.
But they weren't nordic.
Drawings in Vedic texts and Indian Art clearly depict how this people looked like
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/goddess-parvati-ganesha-handmade-painting-india-vedic-art-mother-son-jagannath.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/indiamusic.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sFCue8XC5cI/TRBK5oJqQnI/AAAAAAAAAow/ei5bbLsdFUM/s1600/PABC044.JPG


They look more similar to Persians,West Asians, and light types of European Gypsies,than to real Nordics.

Remarkably beautiful Art by the way

[Fractal]

The Vedic Indians or so called Aryans where light skinned compared to the native Dravidians.
But they weren't nordic.
Drawings in Vedic texts and Indian Art clearly depict how this people looked like
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/goddess-parvati-ganesha-handmade-painting-india-vedic-art-mother-son-jagannath.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/indiamusic.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sFCue8XC5cI/TRBK5oJqQnI/AAAAAAAAAow/ei5bbLsdFUM/s1600/PABC044.JPG


They look more similar to Persians,West Asians, and light types of European Gypsies,than to real Nordics.

Remarkably beautiful Art by the way

umm sorry but they looked no different from modern day Indians, and nothing like Persians. Light skin is simply the aesthetics for art

[Сербо Макеридов]

About the Finno-Ugric and IE language groups.

Just some Hard-facts: Finno-Ugric language group was born in N-Eastern Europe, until the roots of ancient IE language groups go back to Asian continent. In the Eurasian
supercontinent, there are more native speakers of IE languages in the ASIAN continent than in Europen continent. (Just remember the large IE speaking populations of India Pakistan Iran)
However, the 97% of Finno-ugric speaking people live in Europe. Therefore to call finno-ugric languages as "asian languages" is laughable illogical, unscientific and
misleading.


TYPE IN ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA:"Proto Indo Europeans"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans

and see the maps about original ancient IE people!France Britain Italy haven't signifficant proto indoeuropean genes.The Germanic people have also very very low ratio of ancient IE haplogroup markers (R1a),only Eastern Europeans have high ratio of original proto IE haplogroups markers.Western European languages belongs to IE language group,but in very very distant way.(Have you ever heard about Language-shift? The IE linguistic effect spreaded as a lingua franca and as a „dealer language” between many many populations during thousands of years) The real genetical IE people equal with the Eastern European people : and it represent lower culture,technology&lower scientific and economic development in European continent.

ARe you alive, Indo-European gypos ?

South Slavs and Scandos are the oldest Europeans, because they are holders of I haplogroup.
Suth Slavs are I2a, and Scandos are I1.

https://vieilleeurope.fileswordpress.com/2016/04/eu.png?w637&h=505

[Stears]

Semantics.Ok then.Your girlfriend has muslim balkanite origin.
Said by a Roma-nian...

[Fractal]

The Vedic Indians or so called Aryans where light skinned compared to the native Dravidians.
But they weren't nordic.
Drawings in Vedic texts and Indian Art clearly depict how this people looked like
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/goddess-parvati-ganesha-handmade-painting-india-vedic-art-mother-son-jagannath.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/indiamusic.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sFCue8XC5cI/TRBK5oJqQnI/AAAAAAAAAow/ei5bbLsdFUM/s1600/PABC044.JPG


They look more similar to Persians,West Asians, and light types of European Gypsies,than to real Nordics.

Remarkably beautiful Art by the way

By this logic, Kashmiri Pandits look similar to Persians. Indic is its OWN race, and Indians as I said before are ANI + ASI.

:rotfl:

[Lollipop]

Said by a Roma-nian...

Your girlfriend has muslim balkanite origin.

[Stears]

Some Bosniaks were in Ustashe this is true, but not all.

Just compare our languages and that says all:
South Slavic languages (Serbian,Bosnian,Croatian,Slovenian,Macedonian) are Indo-European
Ugro-Finnic languages (Hungarian,Finnish) are non-European (Uralo-Altaic languages)

Deal with it :) We are pure Europeans, even we came in Europe before Magyar peoples.

There are no uralo-alataic languages according to linguist scholars. Vast majority of Finno-Ugric speakers lives in Europe unlike IE speakers.

Stop living in your fantasy world.

[JMack]

They look more similar to Persians,West Asians, and light types of European Gypsies,than to real Nordics.

Remarkably beautiful Art by the way


I agree, they look more light-skinned than what we imagine as Indians, but there's a lot of people there who look like this.

The ''Indid'' types resemble more these depictions than any West Asian or Iranian. I estimate that around 30-40% high caste Indians have light skin. Obviously Aryans were lighter than Dravidians.

Some Kashmiris can look like this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/717958906505367552/36xcHzPi_400x400.jpg


People in this forum have serious misconceptions about how people look like in the world.

[Stears]

So who are R1b people according to you?
The ancestors of aboriginal Western Europeans.

[Stears]

South Slavs and Scandos are the oldest Europeans, because they are holders of I haplogroup.
Suth Slavs are I2a, and Scandos are I1.

https://vieilleeurope.fileswordpress.com/2016/04/eu.png?w637&h=505

You forget many Serbians and Romanians have significant negroid E1b and middle eastern J non-white haplogroups.
I think that is why they are swarthy.

[Сербо Макеридов]

There are no uralo-alataic languages according to linguist scholars. Vast majority of Finno-Ugric speakers lives in Europe unlike IE speakers.

Stop living in your fantasy world.

You are not real Hungarian, you are just hungarized Swabian, your haplogroup R1b confirms this.

[Lollipop]

The ancestors of aboriginal Western Europeans.

Aboriginal western europeans were I not R1b.

[Fractal]

Said by a Roma-nian...

hahahaha

[Stears]

Your girlfriend has muslim balkanite origin.
Wrong. She is more German than Bosnian and she does not identify with any of those. Feiichy is Croatian which is automatically more European than semi-asian orthodox Romani-ans. Deal with the painful reality dear gypo !

[Сербо Макеридов]

You forget many Serbians and Romanians have significant negroid E1b and middle eastern J non-white haplogroups.

Shut up idiot, south Slavs are mostly I2a, you confused with Analbanians for E-V13.

https://vieilleeurope.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/eu.png?w=637&h=505

For Croatia is mistake, most dominant haplogroup is Croatia id I2a.

[Fractal]

Shut up idiot, south Slavs are mostly I2a, you confused with Analbanians for E-V13.


https://vieilleeurope.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/eu.png?w=637&h=505

Balkanoids and Romani-ans are considered shoe shiners in the USA. Hungarians are not.

[Vyasa]

Ross stop fighting all the time.. Take a chill pill

[Stears]

You are not real Hungarian, you are just hungarized Swabian, your haplogroup R1b confirms this.
Than why are all my marker matches Hungarians ?

I have no Swabian ancestors, you monkey.

[Stears]

Shut up idiot, south Slavs are mostly I2a, you confused with Analbanians for E-V13.

https://vieilleeurope.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/eu.png?w=637&h=505

For Croatia is mistake, most dominant haplogroup is Croatia id I2a.

Lies. Serbians have serious admixture from E1b1(african) and J(semitic) markers, which are non-European. Read the largest European haplogroups database insted of spreading fairly-tales, swarthy gypo :http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

[Lollipop]

Wrong. She is more German than Bosnian and she does not identify with any of those. Feiichy is Croatian which is automatically more European than semi-asian orthodox Romani-ans. Deal with the painful reality dear gypo !

How can she be croatian when she has german,bosniak and jew ancestors?
Maybe this is accepted in a country like Hungary, where all of you are mixed mutts

[Tauromachos]

umm sorry but they looked no different from modern day Indians, and nothing like Persians. Light skin is simply the aesthetics for art

I don't said they looked stereotypically Persian.
I just used Persian here to describe approximately how they looked in terms of skin tone compared to the realy dark types of
Southern India,to prove that light skinned in this context has not much to do with Northern European.
Light and Dark is relative,afterall.

Of course they look most similar to modern Indian types,what else
I never claimed they don't.
Its exactly what i said and the images i posted confirm this.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Lies. Srbians have serious E1b1 and J markers, which are non-European. Read the largest European haplogroups database insted of spreading fairly-tale, swarthy gypo :http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

You talking about Eupedia, at Eupedia Serbia have 34% I2a on average.

This is Y DNA of Serbia (there is around 20% minorities in Serbia) from "Serbian DNA project" (a sample of more than 1500)

I2a - 35%

R1a - 18%

E-V13 - 15%

I1 - 9%

J2b - 8%

R1b - 6%

G2a - 3%

N1b - 2%

J1 - 2%

I2b - 1%

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Lies. Srbians have serious E1b1 and J markers, which are non-European. Read the largest European haplogroups database insted of spreading fairly-tale, swarthy gypo :http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

South Slavs have specific haplogroup I2a... from Dinarids. These people are the oldest in Europe.

Your girlfriend is Croatian, probably mixed Slavic and Germanic genetics so she have blond hair (germanic) and slavic face

[Stears]

How can she be croatian when she has german,bosniak and jew ancestors?
Maybe this is accepted in a country like Hungary, where all of you are mixed mutts
Wrong.
Hungarians have no mixed until 20 century except the aristocracy. Most of Central European middle-class people have some German ancestors who were townsfolk.
I am not sure about her ''Jewish'' ancestor, Budapest had extremely mixed population with not clear origin.

Vast majority of Feiichy's ancestors are Croatians and she was raised in Croatian culture and is genetically Croatian. Now leave alone my GF dear monkey-face troll.

[Lollipop]

Wrong.
Hungarians have no mixed until 20 century except the aristocracy. Most of Central European middle-class people have some German ancestors who were townsfolk.
I am not sure about her ''Jewish'' ancestor, Budapest had extremely mixed population with not clear origin.

Vast majority of Feiichy's ancestors are Croatians and she was raised in Croatian culture and is genetically Croatian. Now leave alone my GF dear monkey-face troll.

She has ashkenazi admixture and she herself stated that she has a pure ashkenazi ancestor.But let's leave Feiichy alone, I mean, God knows how much % foreign admixture YOU have...

[Tauromachos]

By this logic, Kashmiri Pandits look similar to Persians. Indic is its OWN race, and Indians as I said before are ANI + ASI.

:rotfl:

:picard2:

[Stears]

You talking about Eupedia, at Eupedia Serbia have 34% I2a on average.

This is Y DNA of Serbia (there is around 20% minorities in Serbia) from "Serbian DNA project" (a sample of more than 1500)

I2a - 35%

R1a - 18%

E-V13 - 15%

I1 - 9%

J2b - 8%

R1b - 6%

G2a - 3%

N1b - 2%

J1 - 2%

I2b - 1%

So the Serbians have 3X more N haplogroups than ethnic Hungarians. Interesting....
And you claim we came from Asia :))))

[Fractal]

I don't said they looked stereotypically Persian.
I just used Persian here to describe approximately how they looked in terms of skin tone compared to the realy dark types of
Southern India,to prove that light skinned in this context has not much to do with Northern European.
Light and Dark is relative,afterall.

Of course they look most similar to modern Indian types,what else
I never claimed they don't.
Its exactly what i said and the images i posted confirm this.

I can agree with this. Indic looks are nothing like Iranid.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Dear hungarized Swabian Jew (Stears), this Serb is much whiter than you.


https://youtu.be/cPRqNAD1zEQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragan_Đilas

[Stears]

She has ashkenazi admixture and she herself stated that she has a pure ashkenazi ancestor.But let's leave Feiichy alone, I mean, God knows how much % foreign admixture YOU have...
At least the Hungarian Jews were significant in science and technology , unlike gypsy-admixed balkanite Romani-ans.
You have well known Turkic mongoloid (from Cumans Pechengs) and Gypsy (Indian) admixture on autosomal DNA charts.

It is enough to look mass pictures to Romanians to see they are not real white people.

[Harkonnen]

You fucking Bulkangaro-Balkan third worlders are hilarious with your N1c1 fantasies. We N1c1-men are superior to you in every imagnable way.

[Lollipop]

At least the Hungarian Jews were significant in science and technology , unlike gypsy-admixed balkanite Romani-ans.
You have well known Turkic mongoloid (from Cumans Pechengs) and Gypsy (Indian) admixture on autosomal DNA charts.

It is enough to look mass pictures to Romanians to see they are not real white people.

My "supposedly" pecheneg ancestors were slaughtering magyars en-mass.Pechenegs were the one's who pushed the magyars in Europe.

[Stears]

Dear hungarized Swabian Jew (Stears), this Serb is much whiter than you.


https://youtu.be/cPRqNAD1zEQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragan_Đilas
With such non-European nose and mouth form ?

Only his hair is depigmented, his face looks similar shape like australoid and has coal black eyes. How much time HAve you wasted to find light-haired Serbian ?

Wehehehe

[Harkonnen]

My "supposedly" pecheneg ancestors were slaughtering magyars en-mass.Pechenegs were the one's who pushed the magyars in Europe.

Romanians are a race of pathetic peasants. N1c1 men ruled you with iron fist.

[Stears]

My "supposedly" pecheneg ancestors were slaughtering magyars en-mass.Pechenegs were the one's who pushed the magyars in Europe.

Wrong, they could not attack kingdom of Hungary, because as a civilized Western Christian country, we had castles and knights. Late nomad sheperds like Romanians became their servants. Even your Bassarab state-founder was Cuman

[Fractal]

My "supposedly" pecheneg ancestors were slaughtering magyars en-mass.Pechenegs were the one's who pushed the magyars in Europe.

Hungarian Jews are literally superhuman alien beings compared to you stupid Balkanoids. Stop thinking you Romanians are some significant racial group. Hungarians aren't seen as lowly as you people

[Harkonnen]

Wrong, they could not attack kingdom of Hungary, because as a civilized Western Christian country, we had castles and knights. Late nomad sheperds like Romanians became their servants. Even your Bassarab state-founder was Cuman

Hungarians became a weak race once their N1c1 overlords died in battle fighting Mongols. Nowadays Hungarians like their close kin Romanians, are mostly known for their endless production of prostitutes.

[Сербо Макеридов]

With such non-European nose form ?

Only his hair is depigmented, his face looks similar shape like australoid and has coal black eyes. How much time HAve you wasted to find light-haired Serbian ?

Wehehehe

More Serbs which are whiter than you.


https://youtu.be/efbzE_F38CE

https://youtu.be/1IqBmDjoxIE


https://youtu.be/RvipxVayGkY?t=1m41s

www.fkvojvodina.rs/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/IMG_34471.jpg

[Stears]

Hungarians became a weak race once their N1c1 overlords died in battle fighting Mongols. Nowadays Hungarians like their close kin Romanians, are mostly known for their endless production of prostitutes.

your IQ is similar to your contribution in Science and technology and culture. Zero.

[Stears]

More Serbs which are whiter than you.


https://youtu.be/efbzE_F38CE

https://youtu.be/1IqBmDjoxIE




https://youtu.be/RvipxVayGkY?t=1m41s

www.fkvojvodina.rs/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/IMG_34471.jpg (http://www.fkvojvodina.rs/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/IMG_34471.jpg)

Eastern looking like Russians, i think they have mongoloid admixture.

It is not a real white look.

[Harkonnen]

your IQ is similar to your contribution in Science and technology and culture. Zero.

We are the future, deal with it. Your culture is in dying spiral. It doesn't take much analyzing to see this.

[Fractal]

Romanians are a race of pathetic peasants. N1c1 men ruled you with iron fist.

more like Dalits.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Eastern looking like Russians, i think they have mongoloid admixture.

It is not a real white look.

They are whiter than you.
You have Armenoid influence in eyes and nose (from Jewish side).

[Fractal]

They are whiter than you.
You have Armenoid influence in eyes an nose.

Serbs and Romanians are considered lower than racoon feces here in the USA. Indians are far above you. By the way there was no Aryan Invasion of India. It was an Aryan migration but even that is still not proven conclusively. Indians have had caste endogay for 70+ generations and are a combo of ANI + ASI.

ASI is not Australoid nor were the dark skinned Dravidians.

You are a mischling bastard mix of IE + middle eastern neolithic farmer + hunter gatherer + ancestral north eurasian + old european+ whatever else. and this process of mixture was repeated several times

[Сербо Макеридов]

Serbs and Romanians are considered lower than racoon feces here in the USA. Indians are far above you. By the way there was no Aryan Invasion of India. It was an Aryan migration but even that is still not proven conclusively. Indians have had caste endogay for 70+ generations and are a combo of ANI + ASI.

ASI is not Australoid nor were the dark skinned Dravidians.

You are a mischling bastard mix of IE + middle eastern neolithic farmer + hunter gather + ancestral north eurasian + old european

Shut up Gypsy-Dravidian retard, you Indians are mostly australoids with some mongoloid influence.

Most dominant haplogroup in India is H, which is Dravidian-Australoid marker.

[Dick]

Ni1ggas\N1coons gonna rule the world.

[Fractal]

Shut up Gypsy-Dravidian retard, you Indians are mostly australoids with some mongoloid influence.

Most dominant haplogroup in India is H, which is Dravidian-Australoid marker.

I'm neither a Dravidian, nor a Gypsy. The only Gypsy here is you, the Serb. stop talking up to your racial superiors. India can wipe your little Serbia off the map anyday of the year.

[Tauromachos]

I agree, they look more light-skinned than what we imagine as Indians, but there's a lot of people there who look like this.

The ''Indid'' types resemble more these depictions than any West Asian or Iranian. I estimate that around 30-40% high caste Indians have light skin. Obviously Aryans were lighter than Dravidians.

Some Kashmiris can look like this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/717958906505367552/36xcHzPi_400x400.jpg


People in this forum have serious misconceptions about how people look like in the world.

Yes,true
But i didn't said they don't look Indian i mentioned these other groups only to roughly describe that they are more similar,except of modern Indians and to explain what descriptions like light skinned mean compared to Dravidians.


And i also mentioned Gypsies"Roma" who are an Indian descendet people.
1 more example

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/dd/c5/8d/ddc58d4217c05a12e9184e87d26f4373--indian-illustration-india-people.jpg


Gypsies with classical Indian looks
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eqcW4A7F62c/hqdefault.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PrrsM3xzSAU/hqdefault.jpg

http://www.about-django.com/accueil/picsACCUEIL/DJ.jpg

[Fractal]

......

There are lighter skinned Dravidians and darker skinned Indo-Aryans actually.

[Fractal]

Shut up Gypsy-Dravidian retard, you Indians are mostly australoids with some mongoloid influence.

Most dominant haplogroup in India is H, which is Dravidian-Australoid marker.

Indians are not mostly australoids lol and there is very little mongoloid in India except in Northeast. Stop trying to drag higher racial groups (Indians in this case) down with you since Serbs/Balkanoids are definitely seen as trash outside of the balkans.

[Сербо Макеридов]

I'm neither a Dravidian, nor a Gypsy. The only Gypsy here is you, the Serb. stop talking up to your racial superiors. India can wipe your little Serbia off the map anyday of the year.

Dude, and you stop talking BS everyone know that R1a is not native in India, and everyone know that R1a come to India with Aryan expansion.


https://youtu.be/ixkd9phZX4g

Serbian language is older than Sanskrit.
Serbian language is ancestor of Sanskrit.

[Fractal]

Dude, and you stop talking BS everyone know that R1a is not native in India, and everyone know that R1a come to India with Aryan expansion.



Serbian language is older than Sanskrit.
Serbian language is ancestor of Sanskrit.


You can't be serious here.

[Demon Revival]

I think Yamnayas were 50% ANE.

This already disproves any "European" or "Indian" origin. The ones having highest ANE nowadays are Native Americans, Some Ugric-Finnic groups, North Caucasians, some Northern Middle Easterners, South-Central Asians (Afghans, Tajiks and those), etc...

In the case of Indians and Europeans, it's the Far Northern and far Eastern ones who have the highest ANE respectively.

The commonality of all these groups is that they have origins close to the Eurasian steppe. Indo-Europeans, being like 50% ANE originally, evidently have a steppe origin like all the previous groups.

If IndoEuropeans were from Europe, then everyone with links to IndoEuropeans would have a shitload of Farmer and West Hunter Gatherer ancestry. This is not the case.
If IndoEuropeans were from India, then everyone with links to IndoEuropeans would have a shitload of South and Southeast Asian australoid-like admixture. This is not the case.

[Babak]

Dude, and you stop talking BS everyone know that R1a is not native in India, and everyone know that R1a come to India with Aryan expansion.


https://youtu.be/ixkd9phZX4g

Serbian language is older than Sanskrit.
Serbian language is ancestor of Sanskrit.

If this is true, then im trump brother.

[Tauromachos]

There are lighter skinned Dravidians and darker skinned Indo-Aryans actually.

The guy in the Middle is not realy that dark,when he is not tanned

Most people and Indians,Gypsies even more so have the ability to shift between light and dark skin color. according to the amount of Sun'Uv light exposure'
These people would be considered more or less light compared to the Southernmost darkest types of Indians

Here is a picture of the the same guy without sun tanning.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fdJSEF5GVCM/hqdefault.jpg

His skintone is similar to what you can see in the paintings i have posted

[Сербо Макеридов]

[/B]

You can't be serious here.

Sanskrit come to India in this way.

There is a English translation.


https://youtu.be/Wbh3Da92XhA

[Stears]

They are whiter than you.
You have Armenoid influence in eyes and nose (from Jewish side).

Idiot. I have no Jewish ancestors. My nose shape is very western but balkanites are known for having ugly hook noses.
Perhaps this depigmented australoid looking guys are European looking in Serbia, but it is not the case in real white countries. Deal with it.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Sanskrit come to India in this way.

There is a English translation.


https://youtu.be/Wbh3Da92XhA

Serbian older then Sanskrit?? I am thinking now that you listen Jovan Deretic.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Idiot. I have no Jewish ancestors. My nose shape is very western but balkanites are known for having ugly hook noses.
Perhaps this depigmented australoid looking guys are European looking in Serbia, but it is not the case in real white countries. Deal with it.

66338 - Photo of real Magyar

This is real original Magyar (Hungarian) man from Uralic mountines and your old ancestor was looking like this man. Deal with it.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Idiot. I have no Jewish ancestors. My nose shape is very western but balkanites are known for having ugly hook noses.
Perhaps this depigmented australoid looking guys are European looking in Serbia, but it is not the case in real white countries. Deal with it.

Shut up hungarized Swabian, this is real Hungarian.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sssj6tyazK8/maxresdefault.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/István_Pásztor_(politician)

[Tauromachos]

Dude, and you stop talking BS everyone know that R1a is not native in India, and everyone know that R1a come to India with Aryan expansion.


https://youtu.be/ixkd9phZX4g

Serbian language is older than Sanskrit.
Serbian language is ancestor of Sanskrit.

Sorry Dude,but this sounds kinda funny and very odd to believe.

Though there are some traces of an ancient culture in the Balkan.
For example the famous Balkan pyramids.

[Stears]

66338 - Photo of real Magyar

This is real original Magyar (Hungarian) man from Uralic mountines and your old ancestor was looking like this man. Deal with it.

Idiot, Czeizel is a german name, , in his bio he told he has bavarian paternal and swabian maternal ancestry. He look like a typical german at age 80.
http://static.origos.hu/s/img/i/1409/20140903czeizel-endre-orvos-tudomanyos-szakember1.jpg?w=666&h=333

What is next, all old German French or English men are Turanids, because their eyelids fell down due to age ? Troll.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Idiot, Czeizel is a german name, , in his bio he told he has bavarian paternal and swabian maternal ancestry. He look like a typical german at age 80.
http://static.origos.hu/s/img/i/1409/20140903czeizel-endre-orvos-tudomanyos-szakember1.jpg?w=666&h=333

What is next, all old German French or English men are Turanids, because their eyelids fell down due to age ? Troll.

66339 - Czanad Balint (Turanid)
66340 - Istzvan Pasztor (Turanid)
66341 - Agnes Varkonyi (Turanid)
66342 - Bela Kopeczi (Turanid)

Who have eyes there is no dilema that Magyars are pure turanic people.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Some real Hungarians (Turanids)

https://youtu.be/-y7wYINHT64?t=32m18s

https://youtu.be/-y7wYINHT64?t=35m38s

https://youtu.be/-7ywYINHT64?t=43m32s (https://youtu.be/-y7wYINHT64?t=43m32s)

https://youtu.be/-y7wYINHT64?t=18m8s

https://youtu.be/-y7wYINHT64?t=23m7s

[Stears]

66339 - Czanad Balint (Turanid)
66340 - Istzvan Pasztor (Turanid)
66341 - Agnes Varkonyi (Turanid)
66342 - Bela Kopeczi (Turanid)

Who have eyes there is no dilema that Magyars are pure turanic people.

Varkonyi jewish origin, Csanad is jewish origin like szegedi csanad, but they are old persons, even the jewish people what you posted don'tt look turanid.

We Hungarians call you a gypsy nation due to your dark pigmentetion, eyes and hair color and skin tone.And of course, because you are not European by Western and central European eyes. You are considered Cigan (gypsy) typical balkan people.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Varkonyi jewish origin, Csanad is jewish origin like szegedi csanad, but they are old persons, even the jewish people what you posted don!t look turanid.

We Hungarians call you a gypsy nation due to yourr dark pigmentetion, eyes and hair color and skin tone.And of course, because you are not European by Western and central European eyes. You are considered Cigan (gypsy) typical balkan people.

Oh yes, all of them are Jews hahaha :D That is pure Hungarian looking :D

I dont care if you call me Cigan, becouse i am South Slav and i have brown hair with blue eyes. You just make me laugh, and your Mongoloid-eyes nation.

If i am wrong proove me, give me 1 South Slavs with Mongol eyes :D Try found it :D

[Stears]

Oh yes, all of them are Jews hahaha :D That is pure Hungarian looking :D

I dont care if you call me Cigan, becouse i am South Slav and i have brown hair with blue eyes. You just make me laugh, and your Mongoloid-eyes nation.

If i am wrong proove me, give me 1 South Slavs with Mongol eyes :D Try found it :D

Your Serbian people:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MK835bYBl_A/VfSYyJkdb2I/AAAAAAAAB3A/Qpgrjv2IKn0/s1600/IMG_1607.JPG
http://www.ossrb.org/main/slikezamenije/Seniori/Sasa%20Starovic.JPG
http://kodex.me/assets/image_cache/670/433/0/assets/uploads/pederko.jpg
http://www.turkcealtyazi.org/resimler/prs/2705002/l-marija-petronijevic-130a8e28.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Jelena_Jankovi%C4%87.jpg

[Сербо Макеридов]

Your Serbian people:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MK835bYBl_A/VfSYyJkdb2I/AAAAAAAAB3A/Qpgrjv2IKn0/s1600/IMG_1607.JPG
http://www.ossrb.org/main/slikezamenije/Seniori/Sasa%20Starovic.JPG
http://kodex.me/assets/image_cache/670/433/0/assets/uploads/pederko.jpg
http://www.turkcealtyazi.org/resimler/prs/2705002/l-marija-petronijevic-130a8e28.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Jelena_Jankovi%C4%87.jpg

You moron, Turanids are synonym for Hungarians.

This is stereotypical Hungarian look.

https://youtu.be/-y7wYINHT64?t=32m18s

https://youtu.be/-y7wYINHT64?t=35m38s

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Your Serbian people:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MK835bYBl_A/VfSYyJkdb2I/AAAAAAAAB3A/Qpgrjv2IKn0/s1600/IMG_1607.JPG
http://www.ossrb.org/main/slikezamenije/Seniori/Sasa%20Starovic.JPG
http://kodex.me/assets/image_cache/670/433/0/assets/uploads/pederko.jpg
http://www.turkcealtyazi.org/resimler/prs/2705002/l-marija-petronijevic-130a8e28.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Jelena_Jankovi%C4%87.jpg

Of all your pictures, just second guy have little mongoloid eyes.

Why you post first picture? This man (footbal player) Marko Grujić dont have mongoloid eyes at all. You put him becouse he have black hair LOL

[Stears]

You moron, Turanids are synonym for Hungarians.

This is stereotypical Hungarian look.

https://youtu.be/-y7wYINHT64?t=32m18s

https://youtu.be/-y7wYINHT64?t=35m38s

It is not wonder non-white mongoloid looking people are not hard to find in Serba, since you have more mongoloid markers than ethnic Hungarian population.
Deal with it.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Istvan Csukas - pure Asiatic Hungarian.

https://www.irodalmijelen.hu/sites/default/files/user-zoli/csukasujkriszti.jpg

[Vlatko Vukovic]

It is not wonder non-white mongoloid looking people are not hard to find in Serba, since you have more mongoloid markers than ethnic Hungarian population.
Deal with it.

Some Serbs from Serbia have a little markers becouse of Bulgaria. Bulgarians are Turkic and have borders with Serbia.

People in Bosnia dont have anything with mongol markers. All 3 nations from Bosnia (Bosniaks,Serbs,Croats), no one have nothing with mongols.

[Tauromachos]

Your Serbian people:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MK835bYBl_A/VfSYyJkdb2I/AAAAAAAAB3A/Qpgrjv2IKn0/s1600/IMG_1607.JPG
http://www.ossrb.org/main/slikezamenije/Seniori/Sasa%20Starovic.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Jelena_Jankovi%C4%87.jpg

The guy in the first pic and the woman look like Sicilians from Sikeliot's Palermite examples

[Stears]

Of all your pictures, just second guy have little mongoloid eyes.

Why you post first picture? This man (footbal player) Marko Grujić dont have mongoloid eyes at all. You put him becouse he have black hair LOL

Hahaha, they would be confused for Cuman Jassic minority in Hungary. But these people look not weird or you,because Serbs do not look white.
Football player look like Central Asian Turkish, do you need to change your glasses ?
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Marko-Grujic-708930.jpg

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Istvan Csukas - pure asiatic Hungarian.

https://www.irodalmijelen.hu/sites/default/files/user-zoli/csukasujkriszti.jpg

Hahahhahahaahh this is win xD You found father of all Magyars :D

[Сербо Макеридов]

Hahaha, they would be confused for Cuman Jassic minority in Hungary. Bzt these people look not weird or you,because Serbs do not look white.
Football player look like Central Asian Turkish, do you need to change your glasses ?
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Marko-Grujic-708930.jpg

That guy is Gypsy.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Hahaha, they would be confused for Cuman Jassic minority in Hungary. But these people look not weird or you,because Serbs do not look white.
Football player look like Central Asian Turkish, do you need to change your glasses ?
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Marko-Grujic-708930.jpg

66367 - Serbian singer Milica Todorovic

You said that all Serbs looks like Mongols :D Congrats :D

[Stears]

Istvan Csukas - pure Asiatic Hungarian.

https://www.irodalmijelen.hu/sites/default/files/user-zoli/csukasujkriszti.jpg

Istvan Csukas is a neo-cuman from Kunsag (Cumania) region, most of them were exterinated during the ottoman wars, only some survived, the majority mixed with serbian peasant soldier majority who were installed by Ottomans during the Ottoman wars. Genetikally speaking they are your cousins.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Serbian children from western Serbia (city Užice).

media1.osstarigrad.edu.rs/2011/11/GOCA1.jpg

media1.osstarigrad.edu.rs/2011/11/SVETO.jpg

media1.osstarigrad.edu.rs/2011/11/5-13.jpg

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Istvan Csukas is a neo-cuman from Kunsag (Cumania) region, most of them were exterinated during the ottoman wars, only some survived, the majority mixed with serbian peasant soldier majority who were installed by Ottomans during the Ottoman wars. Genetikally speaking they are your cousins.

66368 - Serbian singer Milica Todorović
66369 - Croatian singer Jelena Rozga
66370 - Bosnian singer Emina Jahović
66371 - Bosnian singer Maja Berović

They have mongoloid markers ? Magyars have something like that? No, of course.

[Stears]

66367 - Serbian singer Milica Todorovic

You said that all Serbs looks like Mongols :D Congrats :D

I have seen many similar gypsy women with blonde dyed hair in Hungary...

[Vlatko Vukovic]

I have seen many similar gypsy women wih blonde dyed hair in Hungary...

She looks to you gypsy. Just change diopthry :D

[Stears]

She looks to you gypsy. Just change diopthry :D
If you want to see real European looking people, watch this topic !
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?165003-Classify-Hungarian-Models

What a drastic difference between ethnic Hungarians and swarthy Balkanite WOGs.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

If you want to see real European looking people, watch this topic !
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?165003-Classify-Hungarian-Models

What a drastic difference between ethnic Hungarians and swarthy Balkanite WOGs.

My town Sarajevo is full of faces like this... what is special with that

[Dick]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?165003-Classify-Hungarian-Models



I didn't know Britney Spears is a Hungarian model.

http://imagestore1.blogger.hu/25_151927_603289_80da3207e403e03dfa0e1b442d8be26d_ 14101d_301.jpg

[Stears]

I didn't know Britney Spears is a Hungarian model.

http://imagestore1.blogger.hu/25_151927_603289_80da3207e403e03dfa0e1b442d8be26d_ 14101d_301.jpg

Idiot it is Britney on the left compared to a Hungarian alterego

[Сербо Макеридов]

If you want to see real European looking people, watch this topic !
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?165003-Classify-Hungarian-Models

What a drastic difference between ethnic Hungarians and swarthy Balkanite WOGs.

Serbs and Bosniak wich are whiter than you.https://image.dnevnik.hr/media/images/996x562/Dec2015/61176997-bogdan-diklic.jpg

Serb
www.bumagazin.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/8-bogdan-diklic.png

https://image.dvevnik.hr/media/images/996x562/Dec2015/61176997/-bogdan-diklic.jpg



Serbian actor Bogdan Diklić https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogdan_Diklić

Bosnian politician Bakir Izetbegović www.alo.rs/resources/images/0000/057/303/1/57303-bakir%20izetbegovic_39ed_1000x1000.jpg


Are you going to cry??

[Stears]

Serbs and Bosniak wich are whiter than you.https://image.dnevnik.hr/media/images/996x562/Dec2015/61176997-bogdan-diklic.jpg

Serb
www.bumagazin.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/8-bogdan-diklic.png (http://www.bumagazin.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/8-bogdan-diklic.png)

https://image.dvevnik.hr/media/images/996x562/Dec2015/61176997/-bogdan-diklic.jpg


Bosniak


https://www.vecernji.hr/media/img27/dd/fe949bc913e7fd058d01.jpeg


Serb - Serbian actor Bogdan Diklić https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogdan_Diklić

Bosniak - Bosnian politician Bakir Izetbegović https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakir_Izetbegović


Are you going to cry??

:)))))))
I am not lighter pigmented than average Hungarian, however I would be the most European looking man in Serbia. Big difference.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

If you want to see real European looking people, watch this topic !
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?165003-Classify-Hungarian-Models

What a drastic difference between ethnic Hungarians and swarthy Balkanite WOGs.

http://beauty-around.com/images/sampledata/Serbian_Women/1AnnaIvanovic.jpg ethnic Serbian - Ana Ivanović

http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ln/20140302/elton_john_after_party_030314_18/nina-senicar-elton-john-aids-foundation-oscar_4095949.jpg - Nina Senićar (ethnic Serbian)

https://grand.online/uploaded/files/73598fbf141e7999f84442f1f2cec960aababeba.jpg
Haris Berković (ethnic Bosniak)

All pure European faces.

[Сербо Макеридов]

:)))))))
I am not lighter pigmented than average Hungarian, however I would be the most European looking man in Serbia. Big difference.

Compared to this Serbian actor you are WOG www.bummagazin.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/8-bogdan-diklic.png

[Сербо Макеридов]

Iranian politician Muhammad Ali Ramin is lighter than Srears, but Stears think that he is whiter because he is Catholic.

Dear Stears religion and culture have nothing to do with race.

https://youtu.be/MqMjpGpHyTc?t=2m24s

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Iranian politician Muhammad Ali Ramin is lighter than Srears, but Stears think that he is whiter because he is Catholic.

Dear Stears religion and culture have nothing to do with race.

https://youtu.be/MqMjpGpHyTc?t=2m24s

Who cares for westerns, they are now mixing with Arab migrants, blonde German girls got fucked by Germanian Turks and a lot of Turks marry German girls. They are funny with these theorys. Every historian who have knowledge will say that south Slavs have more european genegics then Magyar... But let them hope. Westerners :D

Eastern Europe always save their asses, they know it well :D

[Сербо Макеридов]

Who cares for westerns, they are now mixing with Arab migrants, blonde German girls got fucked by Germanian Turks and a lot of Turks marry German girls. They are funny with these theorys. Every historian who have knowledge will say that south Slavs have more european genegics then Magyar... But let them hope. Westerners :D

Eastern Europe always save their asses, they know it well :D

Stears is retarded hungarized Swabian (probably with some Jewish ancestry), and he has identity crisis.

Retarded Stears think that he belong to superior wastern Catholic civilization, except Slavs, Jews, Gypsies, Italians, Balkanites and people from Africa and Asia he also hates Hungarians from Vojvodina, Budapest, southern/eastern/northern Hungary and Romania (Szekelys), because he think that they are not real Hungarians than hungarized Cumans, Jews, Serbs, Bunjevci, Romanians and Slovaks.

Stears is clown which says that Slovaks are swarty Gypsy people, but everyone knows that Slovaks are lighter and they have more European look than Hungarians.

[DarknessWin]

Scythians were holders of R1a-Z93, and they were blonde and red hair people, and Indians have black hair and brown skin.

Read Anatole Klyosov about origin of R1a, that haplogroup is alien in India.

Scythians were pure white people, Nordids + CM.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bc/76/f5/bc76f5880c14f90173d2685487af707a--beautiful-men-warriors.jpg

https://youtu.be/jkeWai9hzog

Scythians were a mix of Iranic people and Mongols. Hair color mean nothing
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Skillur_Scythian_King.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRub6hS7EWn_7mkh4eMezOLuaaqXw0SF ULwmblrpzyWKFGPCC-O
http://belgorod-dnestrovskiy.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/car-skilur.jpg

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Scythians were a mix of Iranic people and Mongols. Hair color mean nothing
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Skillur_Scythian_King.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRub6hS7EWn_7mkh4eMezOLuaaqXw0SF ULwmblrpzyWKFGPCC-O
http://belgorod-dnestrovskiy.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/car-skilur.jpg

Not true. Scythians and Sarmatians are people closest to Aryans. That is why Slavic language is the most similar with Sanskrit (writings of Aryans), and we have a lot of common words which Aryans had.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Scythians were a mix of Iranic people and Mongols. Hair color mean nothing
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Skillur_Scythian_King.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRub6hS7EWn_7mkh4eMezOLuaaqXw0SF ULwmblrpzyWKFGPCC-O
http://belgorod-dnestrovskiy.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/car-skilur.jpg

Not true. Scythians and Sarmatians are people closest to Aryans. That is why Slavic language is the most similar with Sanskrit (writings of Aryans), and we have a lot of common words which Aryans had.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Scythians were a mix of Iranic people and Mongols. Hair color mean nothing
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Skillur_Scythian_King.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRub6hS7EWn_7mkh4eMezOLuaaqXw0SF ULwmblrpzyWKFGPCC-O
http://belgorod-dnestrovskiy.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/car-skilur.jpg

66384
66385
66386

Scythians are iranian people in big contact with Aryans.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Not true. Scythians and Sarmatians are people closest to Aryans. That is why Slavic language is the most similar with Sanskrit (writings of Aryans), and we have a lot of common words which Aryans had.

Scythians had nothing to do with Mongols, they were mostly Nordids with strong CM influence.

Look at this Scythians figures, nothing mongoloid among them.


https://youtu.be/jkeWai9hzog

[Fractal]

Not true. Scythians and Sarmatians are people closest to Aryans. That is why Slavic language is the most similar with Sanskrit (writings of Aryans), and we have a lot of common words which Aryans had.

No they're fucking not, Balkanoid scum. Stop associating these barbarians with the Vedic Indo-Aryan Hindu Culture of India.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

No they're fucking not, Balkanoid scum. Stop associating these barbarians with the Vedic Indo-Aryan Hindu Culture of India.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixkd9phZX4g

You can't hide facts.

[Сербо Макеридов]

No they're fucking not, Balkanoid scum. Stop associating these barbarians with the Vedic Indo-Aryan Hindu Culture of India.

Fuck off dude, Indians were primitive saveges similar as Bushmans before Aryan invasion of India.

Slavs are descendants of Vinča culture, which is the oldest civilization in the world with the oldest letter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinča_culture

[Stears]

Iranian politician Muhammad Ali Ramin is lighter than Srears, but Stears think that he is whiter because he is Catholic.

Dear Stears religion and culture have nothing to do with race.

https://youtu.be/MqMjpGpHyTc?t=2m24s

I'm protestant, dear semi-asian orthodox monkey.
He looks non-white and ugly, there are negroids too with blonde hair (australoids), such face can only look ''white'' for balkanite gypos like Serbs.

[Stears]

Scythians were a mix of Iranic people and Mongols. Hair color mean nothing
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Skillur_Scythian_King.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRub6hS7EWn_7mkh4eMezOLuaaqXw0SF ULwmblrpzyWKFGPCC-O
http://belgorod-dnestrovskiy.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/car-skilur.jpg

Hahaha, very ''European'' looking, they look like mixature of middle easterners and some central asian tribes.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

I'm protestant, dear semi-asian orthodox monkey.
He looks non-white and ugly, there are negroids too with blonde hair (australoids), such face can only look ''white'' for balkanite gypos like Serbs.

Your girl is from Balkan, so you call her Gypsy, haha

[Stears]

Your girl is from Balkan, so you call her Gypsy, haha
Idiot. Croatia is not part of your backward balkanite oriental world. Why do you want to associate with Croatians so much ? Because they are more developed and civilised than you ?

They want nothing to do with balkan gypos, just like Hungarians.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Fuck off dude, Indians were primitive saveges similar as Bushmans before Aryan invasion of India.

Slavs are descendants of Vinča culture, which is the oldest civilization in the world with the oldest letter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinča_culture

Why compare Iranians with Hungarians?

Iranians are indo-europeans, they had great Persian Civlisation. Of course they are greater then Uralic Mongol Hordes (magyar speaking people)

One more thing, Magyar language sounds very very similar and familiar to Turkic languages.

[Stears]

Stears is retarded hungarized Swabian (probably with some Jewish ancestry), and he has identity crisis.

Retarded Stears think thatxý he belong to superior wastern Catholic civilization, except Slavs, Jews, Gypsies, Italians, Balkanites and people from Africa and Asia he also hates Hungarians from Vojvodina, Budapest, southern/eastern/northern Hungary and Romania (Szekelys), because he think that they are not real Hungarians than hungarized Cumans, Jews, Serbs, Bunjevci, Romanians and Slovaks.

Stears is clown which says that Slovaks are swarty Gypsy people, but everyone knows that Slovaks are lighter and they have more European look than Hungarians.

Such a lunatic fantasy doesn't Worth any comments.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Such a lunatic fantasy doesn't Worth any comments.

Croatia was Yugoslav state and we live together (Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia) in all 3 countries and we mixed each others, and your girl know it well. Croatian people is our blood, we share same language, same genetics, same origins. Deal with it.

[Stears]

Why compare Iranians with Hungarians?

Iranians are indo-europeans, they had great Persian Civlisation. Of course they are greater then Uralic Mongol Hordes (magyar speaking people)

One more thing, Magyar language sounds very very similar and familiar to Turkic languages.
yes for illiterate man like you, everything can be similar.

[Stears]

Croatia was Yugoslav state and we live together (Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia) in all 3 countries and we mixed each others, and your girl know it well. Croatian people is our blood, we share same language, same genetics, same origins. Deal with it.

wrong. croatians are closer genetically to Hungarians and other entral europeans than to balkanite Serbs.
being ocupied by serbs does not mean anything, they have western Christian culture and belong to completely different cvilisation than semi-asian orthodox world.

Croatians lived in same state with Hungarians for 800 years and are closer to us than to you. Deal with it.

Your ideas are similar like when Russians claim they are similar to Polish people, but the reality is different than wishful thinking.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

How can we explain that haplogroup "R1a" is common for Slavic, Kurgan and Indo(Aryan) people?

66335 - Photo


yes for illiterate man like you, everything can be similar.

Your theorys are chaotic. For you more European is who have lighter skin, lighter eyes and others. Based on your lunatic theorys, Greeks and Italians are not European becozse they have darker skin and hair LoL

[Vlatko Vukovic]

wrong. croatians are closer genetically to Hungarians and other entral europeans than to balkanite Serbs.
being ocupied by serbs does not mean anything, they have western Christian culture and belong to completely different cvilisation than semi-asian orthodox world.

Croatians lived in same state with Hungarians for 800 years and are closer to us than to you. Deal with it.

Your ideas are similar like when Russians claim they are similar to Polish people, but the reality is different than wishful thinking.

Croatians were just occupied by Hungarians nothing more.

You just hate orthodox people.

Ukrainians looks same as Polish. But you claim that Polish is European but Ukrainian is not. You just say it becouse Polish people are chatolics but Ukrainians orthodox.

Russians dont looks like Polish people, but people from North Russia have normal good looking which is result of mixture of Slavs and Vikings.

But that sounds very unfamiliar to you becouse you are uneducated.
People from North Russia (old Novgorod republic) are looking pure European.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Hungarian women are known as whores, many Serbs and other south Slavs had their first sexual experience with Hungarian sluts.

Serbs from whole of Serbia come to Subotica to fuck Hungarian sluts.

[Fractal]

Fuck off dude, Indians were primitive saveges similar as Bushmans before Aryan invasion of India.

Slavs are descendants of Vinča culture, which is the oldest civilization in the world with the oldest letter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinča_culture

you fuck off balkanoid trash. If Serbs are so superor why are you seen as on the same level as Latinos in the USA and Canada? Indians are way above you on the food chain

[Stears]

Croatians were just occupied by Hungarians nothing more.

You just hate orthodox people.

Ukrainians looks same as Polish. But you claim that Polish is European but Ukrainian is not. You just say it becouse Polish people are chatolics but Ukrainians orthodox.

Russians dont looks like Polish people, but people from North Russia have normal good looking which is result of mixture of Slavs and Vikings.

But that sounds very unfamiliar to you becouse you are uneducated.
People from North Russia (old Novgorod republic) are looking pure European.

Idiot. Personal union is not an occupation, but eastern gypsy like you does not understand western European medieval states.
Polish people are the true Slavs and they do not look like mongoloid infected eastern slavic people. They belong to totaly different civilisation material culture than balkanites and eastern europeans.

Are you frustrated ? Illiterate caveman gypo.

[Сербо Макеридов]

you fuck off balkanoid trash. If Serbs are so superor why are you seen as on the same level as Latinos in the USA and Canada? Indians are way above you on the food chain

Have you ever heard for Nikola Tesla?

He was the greatest mind of all time, and he was pure ethnic Serb.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

[Stears]

Hungarian women are known as whores, many Serbs and other south Slavs had their first sexual experience with Hungarian sluts.

Serbs from whole of Serbia come to Subotica to fuck Hungarian sluts.

Yes, similar when Arabs and negroids want to fuck European white girls, because their girls are ugly gypsoid non-white looking (like Serbians)


wehehehehe

[Kelmendasi]

you fuck off balkanoid trash. If Serbs are so superor why are you seen as on the same level as Latinos in the USA and Canada? Indians are way above you on the food chain
Dude as if you even know what everyone thinks about Serbs and other Balkanoids. Serbs wouldn't even stand out in the US due to them being white they will just be seen as Europeans.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Yes, similar when Arabs and negroids want to fuck European white girls, because their girls are ugly gypsoid non-white looking (like Serbians)


wehehehehe

These days I'm goint in Subotica to fuck some Hungarian sluts!!! :whoo:

[Stears]

These days I'm goint in Subotica to fuck some Hungarian sluts!!! :whoo:

Will it be fantastic experience for you ?

You will see European white women first time in your life. I understand, even the ugliest Hungarians girls will look like models for swarthy Serbian gypos :))))))

[Lollipop]

These days I'm goint in Subotica to fuck some Hungarian sluts!!! :whoo:

God willing brother.Leave no survivors, convert the unbeliever females to the One True Orthodox Church.

wehehehe

[Сербо Макеридов]

Will it be fantastic experience for you ?

You will see European white women firrst time in your life. I understadn, eben the ugly Hungarians girls will look like models for swarthy Serbian gypos :))))))

Here in Serbia (Vojvodina) Hungarian sluts serve to our sexual need, because they are sluts and they like Serbian dick.

Our women are not sluts.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Idiot. Personal union is not an occupation, but eastern gypsy like you does not understand western European medieval states.
Polish people are the true Slavs and they do not look like mongoloid infected eastern slavic people. They belong to totaly different civilisation material culture than balkanites and eastern europeans.

Are you frustrated ? Illiterate caveman gypo.

In your Personal union you tried to magyarized Croatian people and Croatian ban Jelačić burned Budapest.. i know your history so stop lie.

Polish people are not Western.
Eastern Slav people have their own writings Cyrillic and dont use fucking Latin.
Your countries western are full of arabs and turks so your countries will be all mixed with asians.
France is arabic now and more asiatic then all other European countries.

[Stears]

God willing brother.Leave no survivors, convert the unbeliever females to the One True Orthodox Church.

wehehehe

You are ISIS of Europe (orthodox monkeys). This just confirms it.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

You are ISIS of Europe (orthodox monkeys). This just confirms it.

And you know what is irony? You called me Gypsy but i looks more European then you.

[Lollipop]

And you know what is irony? You called me Gypsy but i looks more European then you.

What we Orthodox balkanites on TA should embrace is the stereotypes that TA has about us. Don't be apologetic, don't be pathetic with excuses.
Embrace it. Yes we are terrorists. Yes we will terrorize you. Yes we will invade your land. God wills it, Europe will be Orthodox in the near future.
Neckbeard neets can only complain on TA. God is on our side. Edgy members only dare to spout their hatred here on the internet, for they are pussies in real life while we orthodox soldier, we prepare to die for our deen.
Remember, convert their families, marry their daughters, knock them up and make the Orthodox Patriarchy the law of the land in the whole of Europe.

яблочный пирог с ванилью!

[Stears]

Here in Serbia (Vojvodina) Hungarian sluts serve to our sexual need, because they are sluts and they like Serbian dick.

Our women are not sluts.

Jungle negro level fantasy.

[Сербо Макеридов]

https://youtu.be/fhgKUB7rovE

Cheers!!! :penisdance:

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Yes.
West favorise USA, we favorise Russia. We are terrorists, uncivilized, barbarians.
Western countries are just puppets of USA, and USA trying to destroy Eastern Europe and Balkans.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Hungarian Turanid women converts to Islam.


https://youtu.be/6XdqV4x2JFY

[Сербо Макеридов]

More Hungarian convertits to Islam.


https://youtu.be/wsGhUGnI2RU

https://youtu.be/hYQGSuhooMY

https://youtu.be/pqdjn1lDnH8

[Vlatko Vukovic]

I dont know why i argue with a man who have less European looking then me, and say to me gypsy or Mongoloid infected LoL

[Stears]

In your Personal union you tried to magyarized Croatian people and Croatian ban Jelačić burned Budapest.. i know your history so stop lie.

Polish people are not Western.
Eastern Slav people have their own writings Cyrillic and dont use fucking Latin.
Your countries western are full of arabs and turks so your countries will be all mixed with asians.
France is arabic now and more asiatic then all other European countries.

Cultually, both islam and the semi-asian orthodox countries were traditionally west-hater civilizations. Hungary is a Central European country, and part of the Catholic-
Protestant western civilization. Hungary is not Eastern European (Orthodox = semi-asian culture) country.MAP OF THE WESTERN WORLD:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Clash_of_Civilizations_map.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Clash_of_Civilizations_map.png)
What is Western Civilization?
The earliest mention of Western civilization “Occidental civilis”
After the Great Schism (The East-West Schism /formally in 1054/, between Western Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christianity.) Hungary determined itself as the easternmost bastion of Western civilisation (This statement was affirmed later by Pope Pius II who wrote that to Emperor Friedrich III, “Hungary is the shield of Christianity and the protector of Western civilization”)
It is not a secret in history, that countries civilizations are/were not in the same level of development.
It is well-known that Western and Central Europe, ( the so-called Western civilization) was always more developed than Orthodox Slavic or Eastern European civilization.
The cultural the societal-system and the economical civilizational (and technological) differences between Orthodox countries and Western Christian (Catholic-Protestant) countries were similar great, as the differences between Northern America (USA Canada) and Southern- (Latino) America.
MEMENTO:
Western things which were not existed in orthodox world:
1. POLITICAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL development: Medieval appearance of parliaments (a legislative body(!), DO NOT CONFUSE with the “councils of monarchs” which existed since the beginning of human history), the estates of the realm, the clergy, the nobility, and the commoners,
2. SELF GOVERNMENT status of big royal/imperial cities, (local government systems of cities), which are the direct ancestors of modern self/local governmental systems.
3. ECONOMY: The medieval appearance of banking systems and social effects and status of urban bourgeoisie, the absolute dominance of money-economy (when the vast majority of trade based on money and the taxes customs duties were collected in money) from the 12th -13th century, instead of the former primitive bartel-based commerce (barter dominated the economies orthodox world until the 17-18th centuries.)
4. HIGHER EDUCATION: The medieval appearance of universities and the medieval appearance of secular intellectuals,
5. CULTURE: Knights, the knight-culture, chivalric code, (and the technological effects of crusades from the Holy Land,)
Music and literature: courtly love, troubadours, Gregorian chant, Ars nova, Organum, Motet, Madrigal, Canon and Ballata, Liturgical drama, Novellas,
medieval western THEATER: Mystery or cycle plays, morality and passion plays, which developed into the renaissance theater, the direct ancestor of modern theaters.
Philosophy: Scholasticism and humanist philosophy,
6. The medieval usage of Latin alphabet and medieval spread of movable type printing,
7. TECHNOLOGY: The guild system is an association of artisans or merchants, which organized the training education, and directed master’s exam system for artisians. Due to the compulsory foreign studies of the artisian master’s candidates, the guilds played key role in the fast spread of technologies and industrial knowledge in the medieval Western World.
8. The defence systems & fortifications: The spread of stone/brick castle defense -systems, the town-walls of western cities from the 11th century. (In the orthodox world, only the capital cities had such a walls . The countries of the Balkan region and the territory of Russian states fell under Ottoman/Mongolian rule very rapidly – with a
single decesive open-field battle – due to the lack of the networks of stone/brick castles and fortresses in these countries. The only exception was the greek inhabited Byzantine territories which were well fortified.)
9. FINEARTS and ARCHITECTURE: western architecture, sculpture paintings and fine-arts: the Romanesque style, the Gothic style and the Renaissance style.
The orthodox church buildings and „palaces(?)” were very little, they had primitive structure and poor decorations, their style were influenced by non-European arabic and persian influenced Byzantine ornamentics.
10.The renaissance & humanism , the reformation and the enlightenment did not influenced/affected the Orthodox (Eastern European) countries.
Before 1870, the industrialization that had developed in Western and Central Europe and the United States did not extend in any significant way to the rest of the world. In
Eastern Europe, industrialization lagged far behind, and started only in the 20th century. Their infrastructural and economic development was also very very slow, and many determinant factors of modern civilization – as we called them as civilized way of life – (railways, the electrification of cities, drain & sewer systems, water pipe systems, spread of tap water and bathrooms, telecommuncations etc… spread many many decades (60-80 years) later. It is no wonder that their contribution in science technology and innovations are completely negligible in Human history by the WESTERN standards.

[Stears]

And you know what is irony? You called me Gypsy but i looks more European then you.
Very believable. Where are your photos ?

Open a thread about it and we'll see how brave you are. ))))

[Stears]

https://youtu.be/fhgKUB7rovE

Cheers!!! :penisdance:

This is a Black haired Black eyed gypsy from Hungary, your cultural and anthropological balkan sister.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Panturanism is very popular among Hungarians, they are in love with Turkish and other Turkic people, because Hungarians are also Atlaic nation and sons of Atila Hun (Turk).


https://youtu.be/QS8xS3sVdYU

[Stears]

Hungarian Turanid women converts to Islam.


https://youtu.be/6XdqV4x2JFY

yes, descendant of arabic origin refugee migrant in Hungary decided to return to the faith of their ancestors. Islam is common among ethnic serbs, like the ww1 terrorist g. princip.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Cultually, both islam and the semi-asian orthodox countries were traditionally west-hater civilizations. Hungary is a Central European country, and part of the Catholic-
Protestant western civilization. Hungary is not Eastern European (Orthodox = semi-asian culture) country.MAP OF THE WESTERN WORLD:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Clash_of_Civilizations_map.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Clash_of_Civilizations_map.png)
What is Western Civilization?
The earliest mention of Western civilization “Occidental civilis”
After the Great Schism (The East-West Schism /formally in 1054/, between Western Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christianity.) Hungary determined itself as the easternmost bastion of Western civilisation (This statement was affirmed later by Pope Pius II who wrote that to Emperor Friedrich III, “Hungary is the shield of Christianity and the protector of Western civilization”)
It is not a secret in history, that countries civilizations are/were not in the same level of development.
It is well-known that Western and Central Europe, ( the so-called Western civilization) was always more developed than Orthodox Slavic or Eastern European civilization.
The cultural the societal-system and the economical civilizational (and technological) differences between Orthodox countries and Western Christian (Catholic-Protestant) countries were similar great, as the differences between Northern America (USA Canada) and Southern- (Latino) America.
MEMENTO:
Western things which were not existed in orthodox world:
1. POLITICAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL development: Medieval appearance of parliaments (a legislative body(!), DO NOT CONFUSE with the “councils of monarchs” which existed since the beginning of human history), the estates of the realm, the clergy, the nobility, and the commoners,
2. SELF GOVERNMENT status of big royal/imperial cities, (local government systems of cities), which are the direct ancestors of modern self/local governmental systems.
3. ECONOMY: The medieval appearance of banking systems and social effects and status of urban bourgeoisie, the absolute dominance of money-economy (when the vast majority of trade based on money and the taxes customs duties were collected in money) from the 12th -13th century, instead of the former primitive bartel-based commerce (barter dominated the economies orthodox world until the 17-18th centuries.)
4. HIGHER EDUCATION: The medieval appearance of universities and the medieval appearance of secular intellectuals,
5. CULTURE: Knights, the knight-culture, chivalric code, (and the technological effects of crusades from the Holy Land,)
Music and literature: courtly love, troubadours, Gregorian chant, Ars nova, Organum, Motet, Madrigal, Canon and Ballata, Liturgical drama, Novellas,
medieval western THEATER: Mystery or cycle plays, morality and passion plays, which developed into the renaissance theater, the direct ancestor of modern theaters.
Philosophy: Scholasticism and humanist philosophy,
6. The medieval usage of Latin alphabet and medieval spread of movable type printing,
7. TECHNOLOGY: The guild system is an association of artisans or merchants, which organized the training education, and directed master’s exam system for artisians. Due to the compulsory foreign studies of the artisian master’s candidates, the guilds played key role in the fast spread of technologies and industrial knowledge in the medieval Western World.
8. The defence systems & fortifications: The spread of stone/brick castle defense -systems, the town-walls of western cities from the 11th century. (In the orthodox world, only the capital cities had such a walls . The countries of the Balkan region and the territory of Russian states fell under Ottoman/Mongolian rule very rapidly – with a
single decesive open-field battle – due to the lack of the networks of stone/brick castles and fortresses in these countries. The only exception was the greek inhabited Byzantine territories which were well fortified.)
9. FINEARTS and ARCHITECTURE: western architecture, sculpture paintings and fine-arts: the Romanesque style, the Gothic style and the Renaissance style.
The orthodox church buildings and „palaces(?)” were very little, they had primitive structure and poor decorations, their style were influenced by non-European arabic and persian influenced Byzantine ornamentics.
10.The renaissance & humanism , the reformation and the enlightenment did not influenced/affected the Orthodox (Eastern European) countries.
Before 1870, the industrialization that had developed in Western and Central Europe and the United States did not extend in any significant way to the rest of the world. In
Eastern Europe, industrialization lagged far behind, and started only in the 20th century. Their infrastructural and economic development was also very very slow, and many determinant factors of modern civilization – as we called them as civilized way of life – (railways, the electrification of cities, drain & sewer systems, water pipe systems, spread of tap water and bathrooms, telecommuncations etc… spread many many decades (60-80 years) later. It is no wonder that their contribution in science technology and innovations are completely negligible in Human history by the WESTERN standards.

1) Of course East hate Western countries, becouse western countries are USA puppets and USA is evil.
2) You call them semi-asian, but 90% of Easterns looks more European then you.
3) On this map Spanish people are in western. So what you want to say, that Spanish people are pure European? Hahahah that's a big joke.
Russians,Ukrainians and Belarussian have more more more Europeid looking then Spanish people and Portuguese.

[Stears]

More Hungarian convertits to Islam.


https://youtu.be/wsGhUGnI2RU

https://youtu.be/hYQGSuhooMY

https://youtu.be/pqdjn1lDnH8

How are Jewish peope who became muslims ethnic Hungarian ? The videos taken in synagougue (look the jewish hexagram star)

Low IQ Gypsoid.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

yes, descendant of arabic origin refugee migrant in Hungary decided to return to the faith of their ancestors. Islam is common among ethnic serbs, like the ww1 terrorist g. princip.

Gavrilo Princip is hero.