Where does this Indian male model pass?

[Vyasa]

He's from Kashmir.

Rare phenotype imo.

http://i.imgur.com/pX0KmCu.png

http://i.imgur.com/gNqO33x.png

http://i.imgur.com/v6KLwzf.png

http://i.imgur.com/COnBBKJ.png

http://i.imgur.com/d3eGrUB.png

http://i.imgur.com/uADTp7B.png

[Ghazi]

Italy

[lameduck]

He is a rare type but time to time you get this type among all dardic populations and pashtuns

[Purohit ji]

Are all kashmiris 30% south indian? (क्योंकि यहाँ 25% si वाले जाट तो गंगू तेली लगते है)
Bhenchod dimag chkara raha hai.
He looks west asian/south European/Caucasus

[Vyasa]

Are all kashmiris 30% south indian? (क्योंकि यहाँ 25% si वाले जाट तो गंगू तेली लगते है)
Bhenchod dimag chkara raha hai.
He looks west asian/south European/Caucasus

So far, all of them are.. Actually Kashmiri Muslims have higher South Indian than Pandits so far lol and higher mong too

My dad looks Southern Euro too and you know I score 34 % South Indian and some mong.. I don't think South Indian component accurately captures ASI but who knows

[Ülev]

California, Fractal's area

[Purohit ji]

So far, all of them are.. Actually Kashmiri Muslims have higher South Indian than Pandits so far lol and higher mong too

My dad looks Southern Euro too and you know I score 34 % South Indian and some mong.. I don't think South Indian component accurately captures ASI but who knows

Kenji bhai ka bhi similar case hai. Waise tum logo ka ye look high Caucasus aur baloch ke kaaran ho sakta hai. Meri jaat waale mein to Baloch 36% hi tha jabki punjabio mein 40 se ooper

[Hadouken]

south europe and balkans

[Vyasa]

Kenji bhai ka bhi similar case hai. Waise tum logo ka ye look high Caucasus aur baloch ke kaaran ho sakta hai. Meri jaat waale mein to Baloch 36% hi tha jabki punjabio mein 40 se ooper

you're mistaken. We have low Baloch and high Caucasus

[Noman]

What's his name?

[Ujku]

wtf ? hes Indian ?

He can easily pass as Albanian and Greek. I didn't know Indians could be that light.

[lameduck]

Kenji bhai ka bhi similar case hai. Waise tum logo ka ye look high Caucasus aur baloch ke kaaran ho sakta hai. Meri jaat waale mein to Baloch 36% hi tha jabki punjabio mein 40 se ooper

I think Mapping looks to direct genetics on individual level is bit tricky , genetics can only tell us where a population will fall on a cline from where we can deduce looks

Kashmiris from my experience look between mainstream Punjabis and Pashtuns

[Vyasa]

What's his name?

here's his instagram

https://www.instagram.com/absarzahoor/?hl=en

[Purohit ji]

you're mistaken. We have low Baloch and high Caucasus

Tera harrpa waale mein kitna balcoh aur Caucasus hai aur ne bhi batana

[Noman]

here's his instagram

https://www.instagram.com/absarzahoor/?hl=en

Thanks man!

O boy. He is Dhar/Dar. Had a classmate Dar in school. He had pale skin and reddish-brown hair.
I wanna see his ancestry admixture.

[Noman]

wtf ? hes Indian ?

He can easily pass as Albanian and Greek. I didn't know Indians could be that light.

People in Northern Areas have pale skin. He is from Kashmir so.

[turbosat]

(?) Resembles MDL here a bit, right side pic
http://i.imgur.com/v6KLwzf.png

[Seya]

Wow he looks european

[lameduck]

(?) Resembles MDL here a bit, right side pic
http://i.imgur.com/v6KLwzf.png

yeah resemble MDL and Kenji both a bit

[Sikeliot]

Could be Italian from the center or south.

[Columella]

Probably an Irano-Afghan type which can overlap with Med. Indid instead seems absent.


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[paircity]

The way he ties the hair back in some of photos seems a bit like an italian style.

[JMack]

Italy, Greece and Balkans would be the best fits, but he could 'pass' in a lot of European countries. He passes better in Europe than as MENA imo.

[Percivalle]

without beard

https://asset3.modelmanagement.com/mm-eyJ0Ijp7InIiOnsibCI6/IjE2MDAiLCJoIjoiMTIw/MCJ9LCJ3Ijp7InR4Ijoi/QWJzYXIgWmFob29yXG5t/b2RlbG1hbmFnZW1lbnQu/Y29tXC9tb2RlbFwvYWJz/YXItemFob29yIiwidHhv/Ijp7ImwiOiI2ODAiLCJo/IjoiNzk2In19LCIwIjp7/InciOnsibGciOiIxIiwi/bGdoIjoiMjExIiwibGdn/IjoibSJ9fX0sImlkIjoi/aTE3MjA5NTAiLCJmIjoi/anBnIn0;.jpg

https://asset3.modelmanagement.com/mm-eyJ0Ijp7InIiOnsibCI6/IjE2MDAiLCJoIjoiMTIw/MCJ9LCJ3Ijp7InR4Ijoi/QWJzYXIgWmFob29yXG5t/b2RlbG1hbmFnZW1lbnQu/Y29tXC9tb2RlbFwvYWJz/YXItemFob29yIiwidHhv/Ijp7ImwiOiI2ODAiLCJo/IjoiNzk2In19LCIwIjp7/InciOnsibGciOiIxIiwi/bGdoIjoiMjExIiwibGdn/IjoibSJ9fX0sImlkIjoi/aTE3MjA5NDEiLCJmIjoi/anBnIn0;.jpg

https://www.modelmanagement.com/model/absar-zahoor/

[JMack]

without beard


In these pics he doesn't look passable as any kind of European imo. More like Central Asian or Turkish.

[Percivalle]

In these pics he doesn't look passable as any kind of European imo. More like Central Asian or Turkish.

That's what I was thinking.

[Antimage]

turkish

[Seya]

In these pics he doesn't look passable as any kind of European imo. More like Central Asian or Turkish.

no way he looks central asian.

[Odin]

no way he looks central asian.

He could pass in Southeastern Europe according to you, but not in Turkey? :laugh:

[Seya]

He could pass in Southeastern Europe according to you, but not in Turkey? :laugh:

he can pass in turkey..i said he can't pass in central asia

[Odin]

he can pass in turkey..i said he can't pass in central asia

And the difference is?

[Seya]

And the difference is?

the difference is that tukish people are caucasians and the central asian ones are...asians..

[NPKTO]

you're mistaken. We have low Baloch and high Caucasus
I think Baloch score is more than double that of Caucasus score (35-40% Baloch vs. 11-15% Caucasus). It looks like Nepali Brahmins are a bit different, as we score more NE Euro than Caucasus score. Do you think that high Caucasus came from Baloch like people or Central Asian population ?

[AsianMountaineer]

without beard

https://asset3.modelmanagement.com/mm-eyJ0Ijp7InIiOnsibCI6/IjE2MDAiLCJoIjoiMTIw/MCJ9LCJ3Ijp7InR4Ijoi/QWJzYXIgWmFob29yXG5t/b2RlbG1hbmFnZW1lbnQu/Y29tXC9tb2RlbFwvYWJz/YXItemFob29yIiwidHhv/Ijp7ImwiOiI2ODAiLCJo/IjoiNzk2In19LCIwIjp7/InciOnsibGciOiIxIiwi/bGdoIjoiMjExIiwibGdn/IjoibSJ9fX0sImlkIjoi/aTE3MjA5NTAiLCJmIjoi/anBnIn0;.jpg

https://asset3.modelmanagement.com/mm-eyJ0Ijp7InIiOnsibCI6/IjE2MDAiLCJoIjoiMTIw/MCJ9LCJ3Ijp7InR4Ijoi/QWJzYXIgWmFob29yXG5t/b2RlbG1hbmFnZW1lbnQu/Y29tXC9tb2RlbFwvYWJz/YXItemFob29yIiwidHhv/Ijp7ImwiOiI2ODAiLCJo/IjoiNzk2In19LCIwIjp7/InciOnsibGciOiIxIiwi/bGdoIjoiMjExIiwibGdn/IjoibSJ9fX0sImlkIjoi/aTE3MjA5NDEiLCJmIjoi/anBnIn0;.jpg

https://www.modelmanagement.com/model/absar-zahoor/

He cant pass in Europe without the hipster beard and hairstyle. Could pass among Pashtuns and Burusha here.

In Op pics he could pass in most parts of euope WTF lol...maybe he got older here or something?

[blogen]

He is Pamirid and looks ethnic Hungarian. A close Hungarian sample Király Viktor:

http://idolchatteryd.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Viktor-Kiraly-350.jpg
http://www.kiralyviktor.hu/sites/default/files/portfolio/over_cover.jpg

Király Viktor is more Pamiro-Dinarid, than Dinaro-Pamirid (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?123408-Classify-Viktor-Kir%E1ly) based on this original Pamirid sample from India.

[Columella]

I always confuse Dinaro-Pamirid with Pamiro-Dinarics :-(


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[Antimage]

He is Pamirid and looks ethnic Hungarian. A close Hungarian sample, a Dinaro-Pamirid singer, Király Viktor:

http://idolchatteryd.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Viktor-Kiraly-350.jpg
http://www.kiralyviktor.hu/sites/default/files/portfolio/over_cover.jpg

I think Király is jewish.

[Vyasa]

without beard

https://asset3.modelmanagement.com/mm-eyJ0Ijp7InIiOnsibCI6/IjE2MDAiLCJoIjoiMTIw/MCJ9LCJ3Ijp7InR4Ijoi/QWJzYXIgWmFob29yXG5t/b2RlbG1hbmFnZW1lbnQu/Y29tXC9tb2RlbFwvYWJz/YXItemFob29yIiwidHhv/Ijp7ImwiOiI2ODAiLCJo/IjoiNzk2In19LCIwIjp7/InciOnsibGciOiIxIiwi/bGdoIjoiMjExIiwibGdn/IjoibSJ9fX0sImlkIjoi/aTE3MjA5NTAiLCJmIjoi/anBnIn0;.jpg

https://asset3.modelmanagement.com/mm-eyJ0Ijp7InIiOnsibCI6/IjE2MDAiLCJoIjoiMTIw/MCJ9LCJ3Ijp7InR4Ijoi/QWJzYXIgWmFob29yXG5t/b2RlbG1hbmFnZW1lbnQu/Y29tXC9tb2RlbFwvYWJz/YXItemFob29yIiwidHhv/Ijp7ImwiOiI2ODAiLCJo/IjoiNzk2In19LCIwIjp7/InciOnsibGciOiIxIiwi/bGdoIjoiMjExIiwibGdn/IjoibSJ9fX0sImlkIjoi/aTE3MjA5NDEiLCJmIjoi/anBnIn0;.jpg

https://www.modelmanagement.com/model/absar-zahoor/

mind = blown

he looks like a completely different person here.. it's not even a couple of pics either..

[Pahli]

So far, all of them are.. Actually Kashmiri Muslims have higher South Indian than Pandits so far lol and higher mong too

My dad looks Southern Euro too and you know I score 34 % South Indian and some mong.. I don't think South Indian component accurately captures ASI but who knows

That depends on your actual Australoid admixture, I think Afghan_Pashtuns have 8%, so if you have 34% South Asian, you'd probably end up with around 12% Australoid, maybe less.

[Wadaad]

He is Pamirid and looks ethnic Hungarian. A close Hungarian sample Király Viktor:

http://idolchatteryd.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Viktor-Kiraly-350.jpg
http://www.kiralyviktor.hu/sites/default/files/portfolio/over_cover.jpg

Király Viktor is more Pamiro-Dinarid, than Dinaro-Pamirid (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?123408-Classify-Viktor-Kir%E1ly) based on this original Pamirid sample from India.

This Hungarian actually looks more Indian than the OP

[blogen]

I think Király is jewish.

Maybe. But his family highly admixed with Magyars, based on his phenotype.

[Vyasa]

Here he's with his brother

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlJSUZzCIAAI-so.jpg

[Wadaad]

Here he's with his brother

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlJSUZzCIAAI-so.jpg

Iranian on the left, Turk on the right

[Antimage]

Maybe. But his family highly admixed with Magyars, based on his phenotype.

Based on phenotype, he looks super jewish to me.

[Köstebek]

Here he's with his brother

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlJSUZzCIAAI-so.jpg

They look very diffirent for brothers

[Vyasa]

Iranian on the left, Turk on the right

That turkic eyes is common in the area...we do have some mongoloid. I have around 5 -6 % on some calculators. Here's another guy from my ethnic group..

Vidyut Jamwal

http://images.indianexpress.com/2015/08/vidyutjamwal759.jpg

[zarzian]

Straight outta 500BC Soghdiana.

[Purohit ji]

That turkic eyes is common in the area...we do have some mongoloid. I have around 5 -6 % on some calculators. Here's another guy from my ethnic group..

Vidyut Jamwal

http://images.indianexpress.com/2015/08/vidyutjamwal759.jpg

dogro ka kashmiriyo se kya conection?

[Vyasa]

dogro ka kashmiriyo se kya conection?

similar mongoloid admix

[Purohit ji]

similar mongoloid admix

is siberian also mongoloid.? harrapa mein phusti bhai 3% siberian 2% se asian. i think you guys have ne asian from tibet?

[EasternEurope]

Definitely in Italy.

[Newsboy]

South Europe and Turkey are where he fits. Definitely atypical for an Indian.

[NPKTO]

That depends on your actual Australoid admixture, I think Afghan_Pashtuns have 8%, so if you have 34% South Asian, you'd probably end up with around 12% Australoid, maybe less.
That's ASI (Ancestral South Indian) not Australoid component.

[NPKTO]

is siberian also mongoloid.? harrapa mein phusti bhai 3% siberian 2% se asian. i think you guys have ne asian from tibet?
Yes, Siberian is also mongoloid admixture. I guess almost all brahmins have this admixture. I think this came from Central Asia. All Paharis have NE Asian (maybe from Tibet) component. Generally, you find more NE Asian component as you move to the eastern part of the Himalayas.

[Vyasa]

is siberian also mongoloid.? harrapa mein phusti bhai 3% siberian 2% se asian. i think you guys have ne asian from tibet?

you can't compare official Harappa results with Gedmatch Harappa results. I would get more mongoloid on official Harappa spreadsheet.

It's probably Tibetan but could be Turkic too I guess

[Vyasa]

Here's my Harappa Gedmatch results btw (since Purohit asked for it)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 36.5
2 S-Indian 34.77
3 Caucasian 11.96
4 NE-Euro 10.21
5 Beringian 2
6 NE-Asian 1.91
7 American 1.23
8 SE-Asian 0.83
9 Siberian 0.36
10 Mediterranean 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 3.97
2 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 4.2
3 punjabi (harappa) 4.38
4 up-muslim (harappa) 4.81
5 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 5.09
6 kashmiri (harappa) 5.67
7 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 5.68
8 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 5.89
9 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 6.46
10 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 6.77
11 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 6.99
12 nepalese-a (xing) 7.19
13 up-brahmin (harappa) 7.45
14 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 8.15
15 punjabi-arain (xing) 9.16
16 sindhi (harappa) 9.44
17 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 9.74
18 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 10.04
19 bihari-muslim (harappa) 10.54
20 haryana-jatt (harappa) 10.99

[Fractal]

California, Fractal's area

not really, the Indians in my area don't look anything like this guy and Southern European or Balkanoid phenotypes are not common in most California suburbs ,although in some they definitely are.

By the way hardly any Indians resemble him, he's a rarity.

[aherne]

Looks generic Southern European. Very unusual...

[Purohit ji]

Here's my Harappa Gedmatch results btw (since Purohit asked for it)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 36.5
2 S-Indian 34.77
3 Caucasian 11.96
4 NE-Euro 10.21
5 Beringian 2
6 NE-Asian 1.91
7 American 1.23
8 SE-Asian 0.83
9 Siberian 0.36
10 Mediterranean 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 3.97
2 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 4.2
3 punjabi (harappa) 4.38
4 up-muslim (harappa) 4.81
5 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 5.09
6 kashmiri (harappa) 5.67
7 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 5.68
8 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 5.89
9 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 6.46
10 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 6.77
11 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 6.99
12 nepalese-a (xing) 7.19
13 up-brahmin (harappa) 7.45
14 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 8.15
15 punjabi-arain (xing) 9.16
16 sindhi (harappa) 9.44
17 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 9.74
18 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 10.04
19 bihari-muslim (harappa) 10.54
20 haryana-jatt (harappa) 10.99

wow same baloch ne euro and caucasus score to pushti bhai. what are the unique surnames in your community?
so i can see and compare the phenotypes.

[turbosat]

not really, the Indians in my area don't look anything like this guy and Southern European or Balkanoid phenotypes are not common in most California suburbs ,although in some they definitely are.

By the way hardly any Indians resemble him, he's a rarity.

But he is a Kashmiri, so not same as Indians say in Maharshtra or Tamil Nadu etc etc.
Even his complexion is not rare in Kashmiris. Mountain people from Kashmir visit Punjab in winter to do wood cutting jobs and sell rugs etc. They have many "white" looking among them but they are generally more rugged people than this OP guy. In Punjab they are called "Rashas" which I think means "red" but I dont know if that refers to their complexion.


Now these people are close to a district near Mumbai, Maharashtra which is considered to be in West or even "North" India.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/multimedia/dynamic/02264/BL02_STATE_LEAD_1_2264484f.jpg

And these people are in Madurai, Tamil Nadu South India. Not a great difference from the above people in Maharashtra.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8179/8056499193_08259d2976_b.jpg

[lameduck]

But he is a Kashmiri, so not same as Indians say in Maharshtra or Tamil Nadu etc etc.
Even his complexion is not rare in Kashmiris. Mountain people from Kashmir visit Punjab in winter to do wood cutting jobs and sell rugs etc. They have many "white" looking among them but they are generally more rugged people than this OP guy. In Punjab they are called "Rashas" which I think means "red" but I dont know if that refers to their complexion.


Now these people are close to a district near Mumbai, Maharashtra which is considered to be in West or even "North" India.

kashmiris from my experience look between mainstream Punjabis and Pashtuns