Anti-Kurdish sentiment in Hadith

[Böri]

Shi'a sources confirm:

(Narrated) Ali bin Ibrahim, from Ismael bin Muhammad al-Makki, from Ali bin al-Husain, from ‘Amr bin Othman, from al-Husain bin Khalid, from whom he entioned from Abu Ar-Rabi’ al-Shami said: Imam Abu Abdullah [as] said:

“Do not [even] buy anyone who is a Negro…never marry anyone of the Kurdish (people) for they are part of the Jinn (demons)…” (al-Kafi, fil Furoo’: Book of Nikah, Chapter: Whom Are Disliked for Marriage, Narration 2)

Imam Abdullah probably said that after noticing Kurdish weird habits.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btDRFwjzEf4

[crazyladybutterfly]

so kurds are jinns???? shit i like them even more now lol

[Gangrel]

so kurds are jinns???? shit i like them even more now lol

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[Pahli]

Nice, they referred to us as fire worshippers, you should read what the prophet said about Durks lmao;

Narrated Abu Huraira: A companion of Muhammad

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."

Sounds like Durks were described as some dumbass savages lmfao.

[crazyladybutterfly]

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[Böri]

National animal of Kurds: the Donkey.



Iraq Kurdish donkey party unveils statue
A political party in Iraq's Kurdistan region called the Donkeys' Party has unveiled a statue of its four-legged namesake in dress attire.


https://i.hizliresim.com/qWZj43.jpg (https://hizliresim.com/qWZj43)
The bronze statue shows the head and shoulders of a donkey dressed in a suit, collared shirt and tie.
Five feet high and three feet wide, it took Kurdish sculptor Zerak Mira seven months to create and cost £2,500.
It is located on Nali Street, Sulaimaniyah, which is named for a famous Kurdish poet who wrote a well-known poem about donkeys.
The statue was unveiled at a ceremony attended by a number of Kurdish artists and intellectuals.
Donkeys' Party Secretary General Omar Kalol said he hopes the statue will encourage people in Kurdistan to better treat animals, especially donkeys.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9200382/Iraq-Kurdish-donkey-party-unveils-statue.html



Poor donkeys...

[crazyladybutterfly]

National animal of Kurds: the Donkey.



Poor donkeys...

but it is to remember a kurdish poet who wrote about donkeys

it is much better than turks believing they descend from a wolf and a horny chinky zoophile degenerate whore

[Böri]

but it is to remember a kurdish poet who wrote about donkeys

it is much better than turks believing they descend from a wolf and a horny chinky zoophile degenerate whore

It's mythology you dimwit. Like in old Egypt and Greece. Also wolves arent used for purposes like this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCEO-7rRH1k

[Pahli]

Animal sex is great pleasure for guys like Siyendi, fapping off to it numerous times a week, just wow.

[Böri]

+18 Kurdish Terrorists Fucking With Dead Donkey in Northern Iraq
Read more at https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1440614539&comments=1#tgDvv3X2SCTY7VDK.99

Kurds were declared inferior race by Arab 12 imams back then surely coz they knew their habits :)

[Pahli]

+18 Kurdish Terrorists Fucking With Dead Donkey in Northern Iraq
Read more at https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1440614539&comments=1#tgDvv3X2SCTY7VDK.99

Kurds were declared inferior race by Arab 12 imams back then surely coz they knew their habits :)

Are you done masturbating bro?

[crazyladybutterfly]

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=m1MBJzSJmVAC&p...

Ilhan Basgoz notes that in rural Turkey bestiality has been quite common among adolescent boys and tolerated by the surrounding community. According to him, the widespread adolescent male practise of bestiality stems from sexual deprivation. Young boys who have recently become aware of their sexuality and are extremely curious about sex, and young unmarried men who are in transition to adulthood, are denied legitimate sexual intercourse or relationships with women. Because of this, they choose to explore their sexuality and appease their sexual appetite trhough bestiality. Donkeys are often involved in this kind of rural, adolescent bestiality. He also provides a personal anecdote, which demonstrates the communal acceptance of adolescent bestiality: People of my village would joke when they saw a young boy riding a donkey whose tail was raised, for this is the sign of recent intercourse: Hey, the tail of your donkey looks like the handle of a saucepan! What did you do with animal? This acceptance is echoed in a proverb: A person who has sex with a donkey should be assisted. Julian Baldick notes a different aspect of this kind of adolescent bestiality, at least within the context of Tahtaci people of Turkey and shamanistic societies. According to her, bestiality is a way of "becoming-animal," which has the utmost importance in the practice of the Turkic shamans. She argues that the Turkic practise of "becoming-animal" is more than a symbolic appropriation of animalistic traits. We have seen that Turkic shamans used animalistic behavioural mimicry in order to contact spirits. In this way, they have also used special costumes.

[Böri]

Are you done masturbating bro?

I swear you are sick. Even the fact you consider those videos as 'masturbation materials, show that goat-donkey f*ck stories are true about you Kiros.

[crazyladybutterfly]

https://books.google.it/books?id=Z-GbOvrbniQC&pg=PT13&lpg=PT13&dq=turks+bestiality&source=bl&ots=gpTcbfeM_V&sig=2WMwBUtHDxaJZNf0QQoU0LkruZg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjB4LKigdTVAhXE7BQKHRrjDA4Q6AEINzAD#v=on epage&q=turks%20bestiality&f=false

bestiality is common among turks , who are known for having anal intercourse with mares
some people regard intercourse as sinful only if the animal is edible , such as cattle or sheep
turks also believe that sex with a donkey makes the penis grow larger

[Pahli]

I swear you are sick. Even the fact you consider those videos as 'masturbation materials, show that goat-donkey f*ck stories are true about you Kiros.

Why? I am just stating that you are using these videos as masturbation materials because you keep posting them, makes perfect sense xD

[Kamal900]

Nice, they referred to us as fire worshippers, you should read what the prophet said about Durks lmao;

Narrated Abu Huraira: A companion of Muhammad

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."

Sounds like Durks were described as some dumbass savages lmfao.

We need to understand that 7adiths comes in certain levels of authenticity, and this is sounds very far fetched for me. Yes, what the Prophet describes the Turks from the early 7th century clearly states on how the original Turkic peoples used to be more Mongoloid than the Anatolian ones today.

[Pahli]

We need to understand that 7adiths comes in certain levels of authenticity, and this is sounds very far fetched for me. Yes, what the Prophet describes the Turks from the early 7th century clearly states on how the original Turkic peoples used to be more Mongoloid than the Anatolian ones today.

And how uncivilized they were, doesn't match any of Siyendis fairytale stories lmfao.

[Böri]

According to Jewish sources which are also confirmed by early Muslim sources, the Kurds are from the demons (Jinns) of King Solomon of Israel who mixed with Jewish women.
Kurdish Jews dont mingle with Kurds (Muslim and Yazidi) and call them the Children of the Djinn:




Children of the Djinn

Corduone was an ancient region located in northern Mesopotamia, present-day south-eastern Turkey and northern Iraq.

Jewish sources trace origins of people of Corduene to marriage of Jinns of King Solomon with 500 beautiful Jewish women. The same legend was also used by the early Islamic authorities to explain origins of Kurds.

https://5ocietyx.wordpress.com/2013/10/03/corduene-ancient-kurdistan-heartland-of-the-djinn/
http://newdawnmagazine.com/Article/The_Forbidden_Legacy_Part_Three.html

[gültekin]

but it is to remember a kurdish poet who wrote about donkeys

it is much better than turks believing they descend from a wolf and a horny chinky zoophile degenerate whore

Oh my God, are you pretending to be an imbecile? That's part of the Turkish mythology. Do you also think Greeks believe centaurs exist? :confused:

Anyway, when are you going to join YPG?

[Pahli]

According to Jewish sources which are also confirmed by early Muslim sources, the Kurds are from the demons (Jinns) of King Solomon of Israel who mixed with Jewish women.
Kurdish Jews dont mingle with Kurds (Muslim and Yazidi) and call them the Children of the Djinn:

Ok muslim, we're Jinns and Kafirs. I am actually proud of that because it means that whoever described us so were butthurt by our pagan traditions :laugh:

[Kamal900]

And how uncivilized they were, doesn't match any of Siyendis fairytale stories lmfao.

Even the most nomadic of Bedouins know how to read and wright as what we see on the many ancient North Arabian graffiti that we're left in today's Jordan, Southern and East Syria and Southern Palestine more than 2000 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGP0CNTeTY

Truth to be told, It was the Iranians who were the ones that brought the Turkic nomads into the civilised world, not us, and they largely adopted the Persian culture which would become the basis of the Ottoman and Seljuk empires that were very Iranianized empires regardless of what the delusional Turkish members here claim otherwise. Yes, Persians don't get enough credit unfortunately.

[Pahli]

Even the most nomadic of Bedouins know how to read and wright as what we see on the many ancient North Arabian graffiti that we're left in today's Jordan, Southern and East Syria and Southern Palestine more than 2000 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGP0CNTeTY

Truth to be told, It was the Iranians who were the ones that brought the Turkic nomads into the civilised world, not us, and they largely the Persian culture which would become the basis of the Ottoman and Seljuk empires that were very Iranianized empires regardless of what the delusional Turkish members here claim otherwise. Yes, Persians don't get enough credit unfortunately.

I don't think the Iranians wanted any Turks nearby, they were savages and unruly, got buttfucked twice by pre-Islamic Persia before the empire totally collapsed. But yes, Persians and Tajiks are partly at fault for taking Turkic slaves that later rebelled and started their own dynasties.

[Hadouken]

:bored:

[Böri]

Kiro you are Feyli Iranian Kurd so from the small minority of Shiite Kurds. The Shi'ite hadith make clear as for 'people to avoid for marriage,.
Imam Abdallah reported to say:
Don't marry the Kurd

:)
I think most Kurds are Sunni and Yazidi because Shi'ite clerics obviously not enthusiastic to convert your people. Otherwise Safavids occupied large parts of Kurdish-majority regions in history yet didnt push Kurds to convert. İt can be due to belief you arent proper humans.

[gültekin]

We need to understand that 7adiths comes in certain levels of authenticity, and this is sounds very far fetched for me. Yes, what the Prophet describes the Turks from the early 7th century clearly states on how the original Turkic peoples used to be more Mongoloid than the Anatolian ones today.

1. That is hadith is fake.
2. In the 7th century, Turkic peoples were scattered from the shores of the Danube to the Altai Mountains and even beyond, to think they were genetically and phenotypically homogeneous is beyond retardation. Not even the Scythians of the antiquity were genetically homogeneus.
https://i.hizliresim.com/OLp0M0.jpg (https://hizliresim.com/OLp0M0)

[Kamal900]

I don't think the Iranians wanted any Turks nearby, they were savages and unruly, got buttfucked twice by pre-Islamic Persia before the empire totally collapsed. But yes, Persians and Tajiks are partly at fault for taking Turkic slaves that later rebelled and started their own dynasties.

I think the early Muslim Persians felt very sorry for the Oghuz Turkic peoples of modern day Turkmenistan, and they simply taught them a thing or two on the prospects of civilisation to a point that these Iranians had given the name "Turan" which used to be a term for the ancient Iranian tribe that used to live in modern day Afghanistan. Tajiks were swarmed by the Turko-Mongoloic hordes in the 13th century, and many enlightened Iranian peoples like the khwarazmians disappeared.

[Pahli]

Kiro you are Feyli Iranian Kurd so from the small minority of Shiite Kurds. The Shi'ite hadith make clear as for 'people to avoid for marriage,.
Imam Abdallah reported to say:
Don't marry the Kurd

:)
I think most Kurds are Sunni and Yazidi because Shi'ite clerics obviously not enthusiastic to convert your people. Otherwise Safavids occupied large parts of Kurdish-majority regions in history yet didnt push Kurds to convert. İt can be due to belief you arent proper humans.

I don't give a flying fuck about Islam lol, in my family we marry what we want, not what some retarded Imam shits out of his mouth.

Yes, most Kurds are actually Sunni, but once again, I don't care.

[Pahli]

I think the early Muslim Persians felt very sorry for the Oghuz Turkic peoples of modern day Turkmenistan, and they simply taught them a thing or two on the prospects of civilisation to a point that these Iranians had given the name "Turan" which used to be a term for the ancient Iranian tribe that used to live in modern day Afghanistan. Tajiks were swarmed by the Turko-Mongoloic hordes in the 13th century, and many enlightened Iranian peoples like the khwarazmians disappeared.

Modern Tajiks luckily didn't get too mongrelized, Turkmen and Uzbeks aren't the most attractive lmfao, I remember Siyendi posting a picture of this ugly ass Beta looking Turkmen "so handsum male, he resembles stronk ancient türkmen", in reality that guy had a Justin Bieber haircut and probably even I could take his ass down.

Kyrgyz and Kazakhs are prettier IMO.

[Kamal900]

1. That is hadith is fake.
2. In the 7th century, Turkic peoples were scattered from the shores of the Danube to the Altai Mountains and even beyond, to think they were genetically and phenotypically homogeneous is beyond retardation. Not even the Scythians of the antiquity were genetically homogeneus.
https://i.hizliresim.com/OLp0M0.jpg (https://hizliresim.com/OLp0M0)

Nobody was homogeneous except for some genetically isolated groups which is true in our modern day world. Like I said, we can't take the 7adiths seriously due on the fact that there are levels of authenticity, and that It's up to the Islamic clerics to research on whether or not these 7adiths are authentic or not.

[crazyladybutterfly]

Modern Tajiks luckily didn't get too mongrelized, Turkmen and Uzbeks aren't the most attractive lmfao, I remember Siyendi posting a picture of this ugly ass Beta looking Turkmen "so handsum male, he resembles stronk ancient türkmen", in reality that guy had a Justin Bieber haircut and probably even I could take his ass down.

Kyrgyz and Kazakhs are prettier IMO.

oh yeah i remember that singer lol
he had a horrible voice and he has the same sex appeal of k pop singers

[jackrussell]

Enough with Kurd-Turk-Arab bashing ; men and women all around the world will occasionally fuck an animal .

It is what it is .


Persians , Arabs and Turks need to cooperate and work togethet otherwise all of our arses are on their way to become indentured slaves to rich and powerfull of this Earth .

[Kamal900]

Modern Tajiks luckily didn't get too mongrelized, Turkmen and Uzbeks aren't the most attractive lmfao, I remember Siyendi posting a picture of this ugly ass Beta looking Turkmen "so handsum male, he resembles stronk ancient türkmen", in reality that guy had a Justin Bieber haircut and probably even I could take his ass down.

Kyrgyz and Kazakhs are prettier IMO.

Beauty is up to the eyes of the beholder, so it's a very subjective matter. But yes, when someone who is very delusional due to his/her nationalist ideology and prospects tend to see things that we normally find it weird and biased to a point that they lash out on you for simply disagreeing with them.

[Pahli]

Enough with Kurd-Turk-Arab bashing ; men and women all around the world will occasionally fuck an animal .

It is what it is .


Persians , Arabs and Turks need to cooperate and work togethet otherwise all of our arses are on their way to become indentured slaves to rich and powerfull of this Earth .

Go tell that to Gültekin and Siyendi, honestly the other Turks have laid back and I don't really have a problem with them, its mostly these two big retards plus few of those idiot nationalists and their scientific myths.


Beauty is up to the eyes of the beholder, so it's a very subjective matter. But yes, when someone who is very delusional due to his/her nationalist ideology and prospects tend to see things that we normally find it weird and biased to a point that they lash out on you for simply disagreeing with them.

My opinion of course, I'm not talking for others, but thats what I think from the pics people have posted, especially the non-cherrypicked ones.

[gültekin]

I don't think the Iranians wanted any Turks nearby, they were savages and unruly, got buttfucked twice by pre-Islamic Persia before the empire totally collapsed. But yes, Persians and Tajiks are partly at fault for taking Turkic slaves that later rebelled and started their own dynasties.

Ahahaha "buttfucked", the so called "Perso-Turkic wars" were nothing more than some clashes between Hephtalites and Sassanids in South Central Asia, Iranian keyboard battalion on wikipedia spend too much time on those pages but not even the biased wikipedia take them seriously, you can see the note "exaggerated" on those pages LOL.


It was a single Turkic people (the Oghuz) who trampled Iran to the dust (together with the rest of Middle East) and ruled over the country for 9 f*cking centuries. What you call unruly savages were the best warriors and empire-builders of that period, they were so skilled that there were even Turkish mercenaries in Iberia under the command of Almohads (they were called "Ghuzz")!



The mighty Sassanids were conquered by a band of desert bedouins even though those bedouins were heavily outnumbered.

:((((
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_al-Q%C4%81disiyyah
https://i.hizliresim.com/4MvPQ7.png (https://hizliresim.com/4MvPQ7)

[Pahli]

Ahahaha "buttfucked", the so called "Perso-Turkic wars" were nothing more than some clashes between Hephtalites and Sassanids in South Central Asia, Iranian keyboard battalion on wikipedia spend too much time on those pages but not even the wikipedia, you can see the note "exaggerated" on those pages LOL.


It was a single Turkic people (the Oghuz) who trampled Iran to the dust (together with the rest of Middle East) and ruled over the country for 9 f*cking centuries. What you call unruly savages were the best warriors and empire-builders of that period, they were so skilled that there were even Turkish mercenaries in Iberia under the command of Almohads (they were called "Ghuzz")!



The mighty Sassanids were conquered by a band of desert bedouins even though those bedouins were heavily outnumbered.

:((((
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_al-Q%C4%81disiyyah
https://i.hizliresim.com/4MvPQ7.png (https://hizliresim.com/4MvPQ7)

They also defeated the Turks in Central Asia, don't get too fast you idiot :rolleyes:

http://i.imgur.com/h6ACFEp.png

How pathetic, muh stronk warriors so easily converted to Islam, don't forget the famous Babak Khorramdin that killed over 500.000 muslim soldiers during his rebellion.

Turks ruling Iranians for 9 centuries? Maybe for a few hundred years but the elite was barely Turkic and yet you adopted Persian language and customs because your own were shit and useless.

Still, the Sassanids defeated your dumbasses outnumbered, "muh stronk warriors" were annihilated by smaller cavalry army lol and even the Persian horse archers proved to be lethal against "muh türkic ppl strunk warriorz"

[jackrussell]

Go tell that to Gültekin and Siyendi, honestly the other Turks have laid back and I don't really have a problem with them, its mostly these two big retards plus few of those idiot nationalists and their scientific myths.

.


I did ask everyone to stop bashing each other ; we all need to get on with one another .

[gültekin]

Beauty is up to the eyes of the beholder, so it's a very subjective matter. But yes, when someone who is very delusional due to his/her nationalist ideology and prospects tend to see things that we normally find it weird and biased to a point that they lash out on you for simply disagreeing with them.

LOL "Turki" was used as an adjective by Arabs, meaning "handsome" in medieval Persian and Arabic sources. Turks were considered handsome by them. They even named their children "Turki".

Those Arabs had OTD - Off Turk Dilemma



You might be worshipping Europeans today, but your ancestors used to worship Turks. You guys always find someone to worship, don't you? For example you suck European members so hard that your mouth is full of their semen, but it was Turks whom your ancestors worshipped.

[Böri]

Shi'a hadith supported by Sunni sources too.

“(Narrated) Ali bin Ibrahim, from Haroon bin Muslim, from Mas’adah bin Ziyad, from Abu Abdullah [as]said: Amirul-Mu’mineen (Ali) [as] said:
Beware of marrying the Negros (zanj) for they are a distorted creation.” al-Kafi (fil Furoo’): Book of Nikah, Chapter: Whom (the Imam) Disliked for Marriage Amongst the Kurdish, Negros and Others, vol. 5, p. 352, Narration 1

Narrated Ali bin Ibrahim, from Ismael bin Muhammad al-Makki, from Ali bin al-Husain, from ‘Amr bin Othman, from al-Husain bin Khalid, from whom he mentioned from Abu Ar-Rabi’ al-Shami said: Abu Abdullah [as] said to me: Do not buy anyone who is a negro, but if you must, then (buy) the Nubians, for they are amongst those whom Allah the Exalted said about them: 5.14 From those too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the Message that was sent them . Surely, a time will come when they will remember that portion, and when the Qa’im (Mahdi) arise, a group of them will come to his support, but never marry anyone of the Kurdish (people) for they are part of the Jinn (demons) whom the screen was lifted from them” Ibid, narration 2

https://sonsofsunnah.com/2013/09/12/the-iranic-kurdish-people-in-the-light-of-the-shia-regime-and-traditions/

You know people in Islam (also Judaism) anything that has shape of human isnt necessarily human.
Don't buy Negro slave, if you do only Nubians (Ottoman harem eunuchs were castrated Nubians)... And don't marry the Kurd.
If you are Muslim you must consider this.

[Hadouken]

I did ask everyone to stop bashing each other ; we all need to get on with one another .

arguing over the internet doesnt have any sense anyway . it is just turning in circles and a waste of time. thats why I am silent mostly

blood should be shed and it would be shed if it was possible trust me but on the internetz everybody can say what he wants . do you really think that siyendi for example could behave like this towards me in real life ? LOL ...I would send him home back in a wheelchair and he would need to eat through a straw for the rest of his life

use this site for entertainment people ...fighting here has no meaning

[crazyladybutterfly]

Shi'a hadith supported by Sunni sources too.


You know people in Islam (also Judaism) anything that has shape of human isnt necessarily human.
Don't buy Negro slave, if you do only Nubians (Ottoman harem eunuchs were castrated Nubians)... And don't marry the Kurd.
If you are Muslim you must consider this.

maybe at the time most kurds were like yazidis? yazidis have been accused of being satanists for centuries

well not exactly yazidi as their religion has also islamic influence but a religion that came before islamic influence and that was labelled still as satanic by muslims?

[Kamal900]

LOL "Turki" was used as an adjective by Arabs, meaning "handsome" in medieval Persian and Arabic sources. Turks were considered handsome by them. They even named their children "Turki".

Those Arabs had OTD - Off Turk Dilemma



You might be worshipping Europeans today, but your ancestors used to worship Turks. You guys always find someone to worship, don't you? For example you suck European members so hard that your mouth is full of their semen, but it was Turks whom your ancestors worshipped.

I've already told you in the other thread that I don't give much fuck about White people as a whole, and I told you that It was your kinsmen that first attacked me repeatedly back in late 2013 for simply disagreeing with some of your friends here. You keep parroting the same things over and over again despite on the fact that I told you to look at my lists of posts and threads that I made during my time here in this forum from the late 2013 to this day. While there are Arabs who did respect the Turks, but there are those Arabs that spoke ill against the Turks as well. It's not a one sided thing really.

[gültekin]

They also defeated the Turks in Central Asia, don't get too fast you idiot :rolleyes:

http://i.imgur.com/h6ACFEp.png

How pathetic, muh stronk warriors so easily converted to Islam, don't forget the famous Babak Khorramdin that killed over 500.000 muslim soldiers during his rebellion.

Turks ruling Iranians for 9 centuries? Maybe for a few hundred years but the elite was barely Turkic and yet you adopted Persian language and customs because your own were shit and useless.

Still, the Sassanids defeated your dumbasses outnumbered, "muh stronk warriors" were annihilated by smaller cavalry army lol and even the Persian horse archers proved to be lethal against "muh türkic ppl strunk warriorz"

Yes, 9 centuries, starting with Seljuks. The Sassanids were not outnumbered, the wikipedia page is written by Iranian users themselves, the wikipedia itself is tired of these Iranian nationalist, it always states that the page is "exaggerated". It is impossible for nomadic people to outnumber Sassanids in any battle.

"Persian horse archers"? There was no such thing, even before the penetration of the Turkic tribes in the region the Persians used to deploy horse archers of Eastern Iranic origin (usually Dahae). You know nothing about the military history so shut the fuck up please. The horse archery is associated with Turks, not even the Mongols were able to take that title from us, let alone Persians whose armies were mostly consisted of local peasants/leviy infantry (named Paighan). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paygan --> these local peasants were the bulk of the Persian armies. They were ethnic Persian peasants who were used as cannon fodders.

[Böri]

maybe at the time most kurds were like yazidis? yazidis have been accused of being satanists for centuries


Not really otherwise it would explicitly say until they convert or it wouldn't mention the name of Kurds as an ethnicity. That hadith is practiced and given importance in history.
The proof is the Ottoman black eunuchs. They were all taken from a special tribe in Sudan (Nubia). Other Negro to avoid to be taken as slaves.

[Pahli]

Yes, 9 centuries, starting with Seljuks. The Sassanids were outnumbered, the wikipedia page is written by Iranian users themselves. It is impossible for nomadic people to outnumber Sassanids.

"Persian horse archers"? There was no such thing, even before the penetration of the Turkic tribes in the region the Persians used to deploy horse archers of Eastern Iranic origin (usually Dahae). You know nothing about the military history so shut the fuck up please. The horse archery is associated with Turks, not even the Mongols were able to take that title from us, let alone Persians whose armies were mostly consisted of local peasants/leviy infantry (named Paighan). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paygan --> these local peasants were the bulk of the Persian armies

LOL WAT? Are you seriously fucking retarded? Horse archery has been a thing among Persians since the Achaemenid Empire, even predates that. The Sassanids had different units for different regions but they still had Persian horse archers, so you should maybe shut your fucking mouth instead. Yes, the main bulk of the Persian army was of shit quality which is why they started losing battles / wars. I think you should stop shitting out of your mouth, I already put your dumb face in place in the Tatar thread, don't let this be another humiliation grandpa.

Sassanid horse archer (also used on the Western front against Romans and Arabs);

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/dd/df/e0/dddfe088f37e3e9045f6df1f6cbc80d6.jpg

Horse archery has been with the Iranian people for way longer than Turks lol. Should I remind you of how the Parthians destroyed the Romans at the battle of Carrhae.

And lol, the Mongols chased the Turks out of Asia, they ran like fucking pussies unlike the Central Asian Iranians that at least stood up to fight them. Pussies.

[gültekin]

LOL WAT? Are you seriously fucking retarded? Horse archery has been a thing among Persians since the Achaemenid Empire, even predates that. The Sassanids had different units for different regions but they still had Persian horse archers, so you should maybe shut your fucking mouth instead. Yes, the main bulk of the Persian army was of shit quality which is why they started losing battles / wars. I think you should stop shitting out of your mouth, I already put your dumb face in place in the Tatar thread, don't let this be another humiliation grandpa.

Sassanid horse archer (also used on the Western front against Romans and Arabs);

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/dd/df/e0/dddfe088f37e3e9045f6df1f6cbc80d6.jpg

So what? Assyrians also had horse archers even before the Acheamanid Persians? None of them were horse-archer based armies. Byzantines had horse archers too (Hippo toxotai)! The bulk of Oghuz/Seljuk armies of the period were consisted of tribal horse archers, the core of the army were elite heavy cavalry, unlike the Sassanid armies where horse archers were auxiliaries from Eastern Iranic tribes (Dahae etc) and formed a very small segment of the army. Persian armies were peasant-based (Paighan) armies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paygan

Sassanids used to deploy horse archers, but they were usually of Dahae origin, not Persian. The Persian segment of the army were called "Paighans", these peasant infantry were recruited from Persian peasants and formed the bulk of the army.

[Pahli]

So what? Assyrians also had horse archers even before the Acheamanid Persians? None of them were horse-archer based armies. Byzantines had horse archers too (Hippo toxotai)! The bulk of Oghuz/Seljuk armies of the period were consisted of tribal horse archers, the core of the army were elite heavy cavalry, unlike the Sassanid armies where horse archers were auxiliaries from Eastern Iranic tribes (Dahae etc) and formed a very small segment of the army. Persian armies were peasant-based (Paighan) armies.

Sassanids used to deploy horse archers, but they were usually of Dahae origin, not Persian. The Persian segment of the army were called "Paighans", these peasant infantry were recruited from Persian peasants and formed the bulk of the army.

You failed to understand Persians had their own horse archers, but they shifted towards heavy melee cavalry after the Sassanid Empire came to place, that doesn't mean they didn't have their own horse archers, but they were shifting the army to deal with the Byzantines and their melee cavalry was quite efficient which is why horse archery fell out of favour during some time, but was yet not abandoned by Persians (and I'm not even Persian lol).

[Böri]

Book written about the Kurds is named after the belief over the origins of Kurds.

https://i.hizliresim.com/aGbGzR.jpg (https://hizliresim.com/aGbGzR)

So the Scythian myth for Kurds must be dropped.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6F1X7Df7PQ&t=71s

[Pahli]

Book written about the Kurds is named after the belief over the origins of Kurds.

https://i.hizliresim.com/aGbGzR.jpg (https://hizliresim.com/aGbGzR)

So the Scythian myth for Kurds must be dropped.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6F1X7Df7PQ&t=71s

No Kurd here claimed they were descendants of Scythians lol and if they did they are wrong unless they have something to back it up with.

[Dandelion]

A Hadith by a scholar who has the most following among Shi'a muslims today. :p I'm shocked, I thought Islam forbade ethnic chauvinism. A Sunni radical would say: 'that is because Shi'a are no muslims.'

[Dandelion]

How come all Hadith scholars were Persian, by the way? For a non-muslim it makes it hard to think Persian culture hadn't influenced Islam long after Muhammad's death.

[Böri]

A Hadith by a scholar who has the most following among Shi'a muslims today. :p I'm shocked, I thought Islam forbade ethnic chauvinism. A Sunni radical would say: 'that is because Shi'a are no muslims.'

Yeah interesting. Maybe, most likely Jewish influence since it's primarily Kurdish Jews who call their fellows as 'kids of the demon,. And it's likely they influenced early Muslim scholars too. Logically only Jewish sources can go until 1000 B.C. (Solomon times İsrael) and say Kurds are from mixture between Solomon's Jinns and Jewish women. It's hard Muslim sources can go so much back in history.

[Noman]

Can someone give me the reference please?

[Kamal900]

A Hadith by a scholar who has the most following among Shi'a muslims today. :p I'm shocked, I thought Islam forbade ethnic chauvinism. A Sunni radical would say: 'that is because Shi'a are no muslims.'

We can't take these 7adiths seriously since they are separated by the levels of authenticity where one 7adith is more authentic than the other. Like I said, it's the Islamic clerics are responsible for researching on them to find out whether or not they're authentic.