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Kamal900
08-15-2017, 06:17 PM
His FTDNA genetic austosomal results arrived yesterday, and here's his gedmatch genetic results. His gedtmatch kit is T513174. He's full Palestinian like me, but his results are very interesting to say the least(he's 27% Southern European admixed according to his FTDNA results).

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.49
2 West_Asian 18.19
3 Red_Sea 13.93
4 West_Med 9.85
5 North_Sea 7.23
6 Northeast_African 5.09
7 Atlantic 4.43
8 South_Asian 2.58
9 Sub-Saharan 1.99


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrian @ 6.726195
2 Jordanian @ 8.980654
3 Lebanese_Muslim @ 9.181187
4 Libyan_Jewish @ 11.193857
5 Bedouin @ 11.553808
6 Palestinian @ 11.694255
7 Tunisian_Jewish @ 12.546348
8 Cyprian @ 12.820510
9 Samaritan @ 13.066216
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 14.244164
11 Lebanese_Christian @ 14.608064
12 Italian_Jewish @ 15.121764
13 Kurdish_Jewish @ 15.934159
14 Algerian_Jewish @ 16.116613
15 Iranian_Jewish @ 16.293507
16 Egyptian @ 16.721033
17 Lebanese_Druze @ 16.735596
18 Assyrian @ 16.860743
19 Ashkenazi @ 17.052557
20 Turkish @ 18.204157

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Libyan_Jewish +50% Syrian @ 5.929662


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Libyan_Jewish +25% Ossetian +25% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.646173


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Ossetian + Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.646173
2 Bedouin + Iranian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish @ 3.718827
3 Kumyk + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.803205
4 Kumyk + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Saudi @ 3.856341
5 Chechen + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.942074
6 Bedouin + Kurdish + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish @ 4.074240
7 Adygei + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.080739
8 Lezgin + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.102278
9 Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Tabassaran + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.106916
10 Azeri + Bedouin + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish @ 4.115542
11 Balkar + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.272529
12 Kabardin + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.291386
13 Egyptian + Libyan_Jewish + Ossetian + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.410436
14 Armenian + Bedouin + Bedouin + Italian_Jewish @ 4.432940
15 Armenian + Bedouin + Bedouin + Libyan_Jewish @ 4.437024
16 Algerian + Lebanese_Christian + Tabassaran + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.460223
17 Armenian + Ashkenazi + Libyan_Jewish + Saudi @ 4.489702
18 Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + North_Ossetian + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.511113
19 Georgian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.515800
20 Algerian + Lebanese_Druze + Ossetian + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.517412

puntDNAL K12 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle

This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

puntDNAL K12 Modern Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 35.71
2 Caucasus_HG 27.50
3 Near_East 20.01
4 European_HG 7.36
5 Sub-Saharan 5.16
6 South_Asian 1.83
7 South_African_HG 1.30


Finished reading population data. 135 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese @ 5.204052
2 Syrian @ 9.185408
3 Palestinian @ 10.194938
4 Cypriot @ 10.595948
5 Jordanian @ 11.102651
6 Moroccan_Jew @ 11.164687
7 Libyan_Jew @ 11.632368
8 BedouinA @ 12.210254
9 Tunisian_Jew @ 12.411741
10 Sicilian_East @ 12.516361
11 Druze @ 13.066298
12 Turkish_Jew @ 13.380900
13 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 13.583550
14 Sicilian_West @ 13.827140
15 Assyrian @ 14.383521
16 Egyptian @ 15.441996
17 Iraqi_Jew @ 16.116631
18 Turkish_Aydin @ 17.328655
19 Turkish @ 17.334196
20 Iranian_Jew @ 17.388067

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Jordanian +50% Sicilian_East @ 3.215445


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Egyptian +25% Laz +25% Tuscan @ 1.868090


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
1 Bulgarian + Iranian_Jew + Iranian_Jew + Saharawi @ 1.463106
2 Assyrian + Georgian_Jew + Greek + Saharawi @ 1.471851
3 Chechen + Iraqi_Jew + Mozabite_Berber + Tunisian_Jew @ 1.488742
4 Druze + Iranian_Jew + Spanish_Canaries + Yemeni @ 1.501242
5 Albanian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jew + Saharawi @ 1.577110
6 Chechen + Egyptian + Libyan_Jew + Tunisian_Jew @ 1.592726
7 Iranian + Iraqi_Jew + Saharawi + Tuscan @ 1.597893
8 Bulgarian + Druze + Georgian_Jew + Saharawi @ 1.605269
9 Chechen + Iraqi_Jew + Saharawi + Turkish_Jew @ 1.626077
10 Algerian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jew + Sicilian_West @ 1.634730
11 Assyrian + Georgian_Jew + Saharawi + Tuscan @ 1.662405
12 Algerian + Iraqi_Jew + Kumyk + Libyan_Jew @ 1.695311
13 Chechen + Iraqi_Jew + Tunisian + Tunisian_Jew @ 1.708288
14 Chechen + Iraqi_Jew + Libyan_Jew + Mozabite_Berber @ 1.715998
15 Algerian + Iraqi_Jew + Kumyk + Tunisian_Jew @ 1.717666
16 Ashkenazi_Jew + Iraqi_Jew + Kurdish + Saharawi @ 1.719363
17 Algerian + Assyrian + Kumyk + Tunisian_Jew @ 1.719908
18 Druze + Iranian_Jew + Spanish_Southwest + Yemeni @ 1.726708
19 Chechen + Egyptian + Libyan_Jew + Libyan_Jew @ 1.732138
20 Iranian + Iraqi_Jew + Mozabite_Berber + Sicilian_West @ 1.760292

EthioHelix K10 + Palestinian 4-Ancestors Oracle

This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

EthioHelix K10 + Palestinian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Palestinian 84.26
2 Omotic 9.79
3 Hadza 2.20
4 Biaka-Pygmy 1.77


Finished reading population data. 59 populations found.
10 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 libya @ 6.340709
2 egypt @ 7.212977
3 morocco-n @ 8.375035
4 algeria @ 8.979620
5 egyptans @ 9.635023
6 moroccans @ 11.765385
7 sahara-occ @ 12.278963
8 mozabite @ 13.390971
9 palestinian @ 13.922105
10 morocco-s @ 34.453693
11 EtT @ 50.422218
12 EtA @ 50.441551
13 ethiopian-jews @ 53.379841
14 EtT-P @ 55.208424
15 EtA-P @ 57.993465
16 Afar @ 60.948086
17 EtO-P @ 63.583462
18 Somali @ 71.473518
19 fulani @ 71.830200
20 EtO @ 72.007530

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% egypt +50% morocco-n @ 2.723046


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% egyptans +25% morocco-n +25% palestinian @ 2.299207


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++
1 egyptans + egyptans + morocco-n + palestinian @ 2.299207
2 egypt + egyptans + morocco-n + palestinian @ 2.713743
3 egypt + egypt + morocco-n + morocco-n @ 2.723046
4 egyptans + libya + morocco-n + palestinian @ 2.759103
5 egypt + egyptans + morocco-n + morocco-n @ 2.771847
6 egypt + libya + libya + palestinian @ 2.891981
7 egyptans + egyptans + moroccans + palestinian @ 2.936167
8 egyptans + libya + libya + palestinian @ 2.956740
9 algeria + egyptans + egyptans + palestinian @ 2.994810
10 egypt + egyptans + moroccans + palestinian @ 3.025696
11 egypt + egyptans + palestinian + sahara-occ @ 3.033191
12 egyptans + egyptans + mozabite + palestinian @ 3.046606
13 algeria + egypt + egyptans + palestinian @ 3.100831
14 egyptans + egyptans + morocco-n + morocco-n @ 3.132241
15 libya + libya + libya + palestinian @ 3.168395
16 egyptans + egyptans + palestinian + sahara-occ @ 3.177057
17 egypt + egypt + palestinian + sahara-occ @ 3.200567
18 algeria + egyptans + libya + palestinian @ 3.230903
19 egypt + libya + morocco-n + palestinian @ 3.341151
20 egypt + egypt + libya + palestinian @ 3.343399

Pahli
08-15-2017, 06:31 PM
I ran PuntDNAL K13 and it gave some interesting results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 31.1
2 SW_Europe 26.43
3 SW_Asia 25.43
4 NE_Europe 6.53
5 East_Africa 3.6
6 South_Asia 2.72
7 West_Africa 1.93
8 South_Africa 1.19
9 Americas 0.87
10 NE_Asia 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 4.25
2 Jordanian 4.53
3 Lebanese_Muslim 6.19
4 Palestinian 6.29
5 Lebanese_Druze 6.63
6 Lebanese_Christian 7.13
7 Samaritan_Jew 11.69
8 Cypriot 11.87
9 Turkish_Kayseri 12.31
10 Turkish 12.53
11 Assyrian 13.19
12 Egyptian 14.33
13 Armenian 14.74
14 Yemeni 15.15
15 Sephardic_Jew 15.4
16 Egyptian_Copts 15.66
17 Turkish_Aydin 16.15
18 Azerbaijan_Azeri 16.17
19 Kurdish 17.94
20 Italian_Sicilian 18.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.5% Jordanian + 11.5% Tadjik @ 1.94
2 85.7% Jordanian + 14.3% Kumyk @ 2.25
3 89.9% Jordanian + 10.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.33
4 67.9% Palestinian + 32.1% Turkish @ 2.37
5 89.7% Jordanian + 10.3% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 2.46
6 90.5% Jordanian + 9.5% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 2.48
7 88.1% Jordanian + 11.9% Chechen @ 2.5
8 85.5% Jordanian + 14.5% Balkar @ 2.53
9 87.9% Jordanian + 12.1% Romani @ 2.53
10 81% Jordanian + 19% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.55
11 76.7% Jordanian + 23.3% Turkish @ 2.58
12 91.8% Jordanian + 8.2% Burusho @ 2.6
13 90.7% Jordanian + 9.3% Pathan @ 2.64
14 86% Jordanian + 14% Dagestan_Azeri @ 2.71
15 88.3% Jordanian + 11.7% Nogay @ 2.71
16 86.8% Jordanian + 13.2% Adygei @ 2.75
17 93.6% Syrian + 6.4% Tigray @ 2.77
18 94.8% Syrian + 5.2% Wolayta @ 2.77
19 92.8% Jordanian + 7.2% Kashmir_Pandit @ 2.78
20 93.9% Syrian + 6.1% Amhara @ 2.78

Peterski
08-15-2017, 06:39 PM
His gedtmatch kit is T******. He's full Palestinian

Thanks! Added it to my collection!

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Bt1SBujN--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18y167q9nlc6ojpg.jpg

Kamal900
08-15-2017, 06:39 PM
I ran PuntDNAL K13 and it gave some interesting results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 31.1
2 SW_Europe 26.43
3 SW_Asia 25.43
4 NE_Europe 6.53
5 East_Africa 3.6
6 South_Asia 2.72
7 West_Africa 1.93
8 South_Africa 1.19
9 Americas 0.87
10 NE_Asia 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 4.25
2 Jordanian 4.53
3 Lebanese_Muslim 6.19
4 Palestinian 6.29
5 Lebanese_Druze 6.63
6 Lebanese_Christian 7.13
7 Samaritan_Jew 11.69
8 Cypriot 11.87
9 Turkish_Kayseri 12.31
10 Turkish 12.53
11 Assyrian 13.19
12 Egyptian 14.33
13 Armenian 14.74
14 Yemeni 15.15
15 Sephardic_Jew 15.4
16 Egyptian_Copts 15.66
17 Turkish_Aydin 16.15
18 Azerbaijan_Azeri 16.17
19 Kurdish 17.94
20 Italian_Sicilian 18.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.5% Jordanian + 11.5% Tadjik @ 1.94
2 85.7% Jordanian + 14.3% Kumyk @ 2.25
3 89.9% Jordanian + 10.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.33
4 67.9% Palestinian + 32.1% Turkish @ 2.37
5 89.7% Jordanian + 10.3% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 2.46
6 90.5% Jordanian + 9.5% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 2.48
7 88.1% Jordanian + 11.9% Chechen @ 2.5
8 85.5% Jordanian + 14.5% Balkar @ 2.53
9 87.9% Jordanian + 12.1% Romani @ 2.53
10 81% Jordanian + 19% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.55
11 76.7% Jordanian + 23.3% Turkish @ 2.58
12 91.8% Jordanian + 8.2% Burusho @ 2.6
13 90.7% Jordanian + 9.3% Pathan @ 2.64
14 86% Jordanian + 14% Dagestan_Azeri @ 2.71
15 88.3% Jordanian + 11.7% Nogay @ 2.71
16 86.8% Jordanian + 13.2% Adygei @ 2.75
17 93.6% Syrian + 6.4% Tigray @ 2.77
18 94.8% Syrian + 5.2% Wolayta @ 2.77
19 92.8% Jordanian + 7.2% Kashmir_Pandit @ 2.78
20 93.9% Syrian + 6.1% Amhara @ 2.78

So many Jordanians, lol. What does these results tell you?

Pahli
08-15-2017, 06:42 PM
So many Jordanians, lol. What does these results tell you?

It looks like he is mixed a bit;

4 67.9% Palestinian + 32.1% Turkish @ 2.37

So there is probably something to it; Maybe some non-Arab ancestry.

Kamal900
08-15-2017, 06:44 PM
It looks like he is mixed a bit;

4 67.9% Palestinian + 32.1% Turkish @ 2.37

So there is probably something to it; Maybe some non-Arab ancestry.

Could be on the fact that he's 27% Southern European and only 5% Sephardic Jew.

Pahli
08-15-2017, 06:46 PM
Could be on the fact that he's 27% Southern European and only 5% Sephardic Jew.

Yeah that might be one of the reasons, so he is not an average Palestinian I guess. I remember you said your family was from Acre? There's been a lot of outsiders in that city because of all the different empires that ruled it.

Kamal900
08-15-2017, 07:00 PM
Yeah that might be one of the reasons, so he is not an average Palestinian I guess. I remember you said your family was from Acre? There's been a lot of outsiders in that city because of all the different empires that ruled it.

Yes, I'm a Galilean Arab from Acre. My mother is from the village of Az-Zeeb while my dad's family originally came from Haifa before migrating to the north in the late middle ages. I belong to the "Bayt al-Lafy" or the "house of Levy" clan in Arabic. You can say that we're "awlad'l Lafy" or the "children of Levy", yes.

Pahli
08-15-2017, 07:03 PM
Yes, I'm a Galilean Arab from Acre. My mother is from the village of Az-Zeeb while my dad's family originally came from Haifa before migrating to the north in the late middle ages. I belong to the "Bayt al-Lafy" or the "house of Levy" clan in Arabic. You can say that we're "awlad'l Lafy" or the "children of Levy", yes.

That would explain why your West Asian score is slightly higher and the Near Eastern score is a bit lower than average including some European admixture.

Leto
08-15-2017, 07:46 PM
His Dodecade K7b looks interesting as well (I like this calc at the moment)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southern 42.25
2 West_Asian 35.06
3 Atlantic_Baltic 14.2
4 African 5.72
5 South_Asian 2.53
6 East_Asian 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.21
2 Syrians (Behar) 5.52
3 Jordanians (Behar) 7.23
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 8.37
5 Cypriots (Behar) 8.58
6 Druze (HGDP) 8.75

1 69% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 31% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 1.06
2 89.8% Syrians (Behar) + 10.2% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 1.49
3 69.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 30.3% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 1.64
4 65.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 34.5% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 1.69
5 90.6% Syrians (Behar) + 9.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 1.7
6 66% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 34% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 1.81
7 90.9% Syrians (Behar) + 9.1% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.81
8 90.5% Syrians (Behar) + 9.5% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
9 90.7% Syrians (Behar) + 9.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 1.83
10 66.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 33.7% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 1.83

Sikeliot
08-16-2017, 04:10 AM
He has some Western European shift which sends him toward Ashkenazim and Sicilians (he is surprisingly close to them given he is fully Levantine as far as recent history goes), and he is certainly not a transplanted Arabian unlike what some people try to portray Palestinians as.

Maybe some ancestry from the Crusades -- Norman or something?