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Karol Klačansky
08-21-2017, 09:32 PM
I created a PCA plot for the eurogenes EU calculator (NOT THE EU K15). The PCA contains me and my father and both our ancestry and living dna kits. I also made an average from 11 slovak kits (SVK). pl.ua is an ethnic pole from western ukraine, and pl.south is a pole from southern poland. They are not averages but actual individuals. Ive also included Apricity members mlukas and Oszkar already. I can only accept european results right now, so no MENAS because when I add MENAS I cant keep the lables and I lose variation. Thats why ive included a pca of all of europe and one of just northern europe.
1. please share your results as they are before you do the oracle, it is simpler. So dont share oracle results.
2. I cant promise the pca wont shift around a bit.
3. I cant promise to be as fast in my replies as Ibericus, and I will start adding people tomorrow.
If you make an average of your european country that isnt already included that would be great. Thanks a lot!
https://image.ibb.co/knGxbk/PCA_EU_ALL_EU_present.png (https://ibb.co/esLep5)
https://image.ibb.co/gSoAwk/Eurogenes_EU_PCA_present_North_EU.png (https://ibb.co/mgRxbk)
Alessio
08-21-2017, 09:36 PM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.85
EAST_EURO 4.91
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.03
ATLANTIC 23.19
WEST_MED 14.30
EAST_MED 18.60
WEST_ASIAN 9.46
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.66
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.42
EAST_EURO 10.88
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.63
ATLANTIC 20.84
WEST_MED 13.52
EAST_MED 12.14
WEST_ASIAN 5.92
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.28
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.37
WEST_AFRICAN -
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.85
EAST_EURO 4.91
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.03
ATLANTIC 23.19
WEST_MED 14.30
EAST_MED 18.60
WEST_ASIAN 9.46
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.66
You score more than me combined so it's not really any surprise you're half-Dutch for the peeps that don't believe you, this proves it.
firemonkey
08-21-2017, 11:48 PM
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 30.61
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 29.47
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.66
4 EAST_EURO 10.7
5 WEST_MED 9.79
6 WEST_ASIAN 4.14
7 EAST_MED 1.44
8 EAST_AFRICAN 0.93
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.27
Myanthropologies
08-21-2017, 11:55 PM
Can you add other West asian Population a likey Chechens, Lezgins, Iranians, Turks, Balochis, etc when doing mine? Thanks
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 2.09
EAST_EURO 14.56
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 5.68
ATLANTIC 0.07
WEST_MED -
EAST_MED 12.23
WEST_ASIAN 29.33
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 33.31
EAST_AFRICAN 0.06
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 2.67
WEST_AFRICAN -
Oracle
Oracle-4
Spreadsheet
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 08:34 AM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.85
EAST_EURO 4.91
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.03
ATLANTIC 23.19
WEST_MED 14.30
EAST_MED 18.60
WEST_ASIAN 9.46
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.66
all of europe PCA
https://image.ibb.co/mUcbK5/alessio_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/koJ5CQ)
and when I add you to norther europe
https://image.ibb.co/nqqkCQ/alessio_Northern_europe.png (https://ibb.co/cRYSRk)
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 08:35 AM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.85
EAST_EURO 4.91
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.03
ATLANTIC 23.19
WEST_MED 14.30
EAST_MED 18.60
WEST_ASIAN 9.46
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.66
all of europe PCA
https://image.ibb.co/mUcbK5/alessio_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/koJ5CQ)
and when I add you to norther europe
https://image.ibb.co/nqqkCQ/alessio_Northern_europe.png (https://ibb.co/cRYSRk)
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 08:37 AM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.42
EAST_EURO 10.88
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.63
ATLANTIC 20.84
WEST_MED 13.52
EAST_MED 12.14
WEST_ASIAN 5.92
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.28
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.37
WEST_AFRICAN -
all of europe
https://image.ibb.co/f8bxRk/RN97_PCA_EU.png (https://ibb.co/hZCFCQ)
Northern europe
https://image.ibb.co/drQACQ/RN97_EU_NORTH.png (https://ibb.co/eGJmmk)
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 08:40 AM
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 30.61
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 29.47
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.66
4 EAST_EURO 10.7
5 WEST_MED 9.79
6 WEST_ASIAN 4.14
7 EAST_MED 1.44
8 EAST_AFRICAN 0.93
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.27
all of europe
https://image.ibb.co/jk8rK5/Firemonkey_EU_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/esvGmk)
Northern Europe
https://image.ibb.co/eQdDXQ/firemonkey_EU_NORTH.png (https://ibb.co/nsA5e5)
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 08:41 AM
let me know if its looking correct according to your oracles
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 11:34 AM
Can you add other West asian Population a likey Chechens, Lezgins, Iranians, Turks, Balochis, etc when doing mine? Thanks
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 2.09
EAST_EURO 14.56
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 5.68
ATLANTIC 0.07
WEST_MED -
EAST_MED 12.23
WEST_ASIAN 29.33
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 33.31
EAST_AFRICAN 0.06
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 2.67
WEST_AFRICAN -
Oracle
Oracle-4
Spreadsheet
https://image.ibb.co/nN8Ep5/myanthropologies_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/chhJGk)
Sikeliot
08-22-2017, 11:39 AM
The Greek sample on there is a Dodecanese one, hence its proximity to southern Italians. See if you can plot this mainlander:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 22.89
2 WEST_MED 17.61
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.08
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.62
5 ATLANTIC 12.12
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.98
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.48
8 EAST_EURO 5.22
and this Sicilian from Palermo:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.27
2 WEST_MED 19.34
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.63
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 12.99
5 ATLANTIC 10.38
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.63
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 1.97
8 EAST_AFRICAN 0.9
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.55
10 EAST_ASIAN 0.33
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 12:01 PM
The Greek sample on there is a Dodecanese one, hence its proximity to southern Italians. See if you can plot this mainlander:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 22.89
2 WEST_MED 17.61
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.08
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.62
5 ATLANTIC 12.12
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.98
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.48
8 EAST_EURO 5.22
and this Sicilian from Palermo:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.27
2 WEST_MED 19.34
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.63
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 12.99
5 ATLANTIC 10.38
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.63
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 1.97
8 EAST_AFRICAN 0.9
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.55
10 EAST_ASIAN 0.33
https://image.ibb.co/mSqDGk/greek_palermo_pca.png (https://ibb.co/kuFfwk)
greek mainlander has elevated North eastern euro blood, makes sense but its interesting.
Grace O'Malley
08-22-2017, 12:18 PM
Can you add mine when you can? Thanks
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 14.54
EAST_EURO 11.64
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.74
ATLANTIC 29.05
WEST_MED 8.13
EAST_MED 1.05
WEST_ASIAN 6.85
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 12:27 PM
Can you add mine when you can? Thanks
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 14.54
EAST_EURO 11.64
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.74
ATLANTIC 29.05
WEST_MED 8.13
EAST_MED 1.05
WEST_ASIAN 6.85
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
youre essentially half danish and half scottish on this pca, how does that compare to your oracle?
https://image.ibb.co/g2zU7Q/Grace_Omaly_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/cJDYZ5)
northern europe
https://image.ibb.co/hcFDZ5/Grace_Omaly_North_EU.png (https://ibb.co/mst0E5)
Grace O'Malley
08-22-2017, 01:35 PM
youre essentially half danish and half scottish on this pca, how does that compare to your oracle?
https://image.ibb.co/g2zU7Q/Grace_Omaly_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/cJDYZ5)
northern europe
https://image.ibb.co/hcFDZ5/Grace_Omaly_North_EU.png (https://ibb.co/mst0E5)
Really good. Here is my Oracle
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 3.586883
2 IE @ 4.198253
3 Scottish @ 4.633044
4 English @ 6.420470
5 Cornish @ 6.839639
6 NL @ 6.886730
7 DK @ 6.994892
8 NO @ 7.285226
9 West_&_Central_German @ 7.781167
10 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 8.023837
11 North_Swedish @ 12.161602
12 AT @ 15.922161
13 FR @ 16.546059
14 HU @ 21.198809
15 South_Finnish @ 21.885160
16 Serbian @ 24.799198
17 PT @ 24.964754
18 PL @ 25.074188
19 ES @ 25.153303
20 EE @ 27.226608
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Scottish + 32% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.7
2 66.1% Scottish + 33.9% NO @ 2.85
3 83.2% Orcadian + 16.8% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.92
4 72.8% IE + 27.2% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.93
5 83.7% Orcadian + 16.3% NO @ 3
6 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Lezgin @ 3
7 96% Orcadian + 4% EE @ 3.03
8 96.8% Orcadian + 3.2% LIT @ 3.04
9 92% Orcadian + 8% North_Swedish @ 3.06
10 98.5% Orcadian + 1.5% GE @ 3.07
11 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 3.1
12 72.1% IE + 27.9% NO @ 3.11
13 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% Northwest_Russian @ 3.11
14 96.9% Orcadian + 3.1% PL @ 3.11
15 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% East_Finnish @ 3.11
16 97.3% Orcadian + 2.7% West_Russian @ 3.12
17 96.7% Orcadian + 3.3% South_Finnish @ 3.12
18 97.5% Orcadian + 2.5% UA @ 3.13
19 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.13
20 98% Orcadian + 2% Erzya @ 3.13
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Orcadian @ 3.586883
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IE +25% Scottish +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.138446
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 IE + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.093390
2 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.097898
3 IE + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.126189
4 IE + IE + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.138446
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.172408
6 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.184580
7 NO + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.242635
8 IE + IE + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.273401
9 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.274760
10 IE + NO + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.277389
11 IE + NO + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.286388
12 IE + IE + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.298187
13 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.313722
14 IE + IE + NO + Scottish @ 3.334099
15 NO + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.356885
16 English + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.367349
17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.401448
18 IE + NO + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.418174
19 IE + IE + NO + Orcadian @ 3.420750
20 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.460329
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 01:57 PM
Really good. Here is my Oracle
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 3.586883
2 IE @ 4.198253
3 Scottish @ 4.633044
4 English @ 6.420470
5 Cornish @ 6.839639
6 NL @ 6.886730
7 DK @ 6.994892
8 NO @ 7.285226
9 West_&_Central_German @ 7.781167
10 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 8.023837
11 North_Swedish @ 12.161602
12 AT @ 15.922161
13 FR @ 16.546059
14 HU @ 21.198809
15 South_Finnish @ 21.885160
16 Serbian @ 24.799198
17 PT @ 24.964754
18 PL @ 25.074188
19 ES @ 25.153303
20 EE @ 27.226608
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Scottish + 32% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.7
2 66.1% Scottish + 33.9% NO @ 2.85
3 83.2% Orcadian + 16.8% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.92
4 72.8% IE + 27.2% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.93
5 83.7% Orcadian + 16.3% NO @ 3
6 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Lezgin @ 3
7 96% Orcadian + 4% EE @ 3.03
8 96.8% Orcadian + 3.2% LIT @ 3.04
9 92% Orcadian + 8% North_Swedish @ 3.06
10 98.5% Orcadian + 1.5% GE @ 3.07
11 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 3.1
12 72.1% IE + 27.9% NO @ 3.11
13 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% Northwest_Russian @ 3.11
14 96.9% Orcadian + 3.1% PL @ 3.11
15 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% East_Finnish @ 3.11
16 97.3% Orcadian + 2.7% West_Russian @ 3.12
17 96.7% Orcadian + 3.3% South_Finnish @ 3.12
18 97.5% Orcadian + 2.5% UA @ 3.13
19 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.13
20 98% Orcadian + 2% Erzya @ 3.13
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Orcadian @ 3.586883
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IE +25% Scottish +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.138446
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 IE + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.093390
2 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.097898
3 IE + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.126189
4 IE + IE + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.138446
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.172408
6 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.184580
7 NO + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.242635
8 IE + IE + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.273401
9 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.274760
10 IE + NO + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.277389
11 IE + NO + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.286388
12 IE + IE + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.298187
13 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.313722
14 IE + IE + NO + Scottish @ 3.334099
15 NO + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.356885
16 English + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.367349
17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.401448
18 IE + NO + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.418174
19 IE + IE + NO + Orcadian @ 3.420750
20 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.460329
cool your a celt that is slightly viking shifted :). The pca seems to be quite accurate, especially when i just consider northern europe
Freeroostah
08-22-2017, 02:06 PM
Please :)
SOUTH_BALTIC 11.01
EAST_EURO 8.35
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.27
ATLANTIC 11.87
WEST_MED 16.63
EAST_MED 22.61
WEST_ASIAN 10.68
MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.58
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 02:11 PM
Please :)
SOUTH_BALTIC 11.01
EAST_EURO 8.35
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.27
ATLANTIC 11.87
WEST_MED 16.63
EAST_MED 22.61
WEST_ASIAN 10.68
MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.58
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
https://image.ibb.co/h6gWMk/Freeroostah_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/kvShSQ)
Alessio
08-22-2017, 02:18 PM
You score more than me combined so it's not really any surprise you're half-Dutch for the peeps that don't believe you, this proves it.
I've been a member for quite some years now and I have posted all possible genetic results, so I've nothing to prove actually. This forum along with other anthro forums is a place to perform a dialogue about anthropology, culture, geopolitics, population genetics etc. and not if someone's phenotype fits the stereotype of one's subjective view of reality.
Alessio
08-22-2017, 02:26 PM
North Dutch (1)
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.54
EAST_EURO 12.60
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 32.68
ATLANTIC 27.87
WEST_MED 7.47
EAST_MED 1.42
WEST_ASIAN 5.41
North Dutch (2)
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.91
EAST_EURO 12.15
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 30.02
ATLANTIC 27.74
WEST_MED 11.55
WEST_ASIAN 5.62
South Italian (3)
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 5.02
EAST_EURO 2.43
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.20
ATLANTIC 9.62
WEST_MED 18.76
EAST_MED 31.74
WEST_ASIAN 12.26
MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.97
These are my mom (1) my maternal grandfather (2) and my 2nd cousin 2x (3)
Thank you!
Yehiel
08-22-2017, 09:02 PM
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 23.73
2 ATLANTIC 23.68
3 EAST_EURO 14.31
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 13.65
5 WEST_MED 10.51
6 EAST_MED 5.93
7 WEST_ASIAN 5.56
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.48
thank you
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 10:01 PM
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 23.73
2 ATLANTIC 23.68
3 EAST_EURO 14.31
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 13.65
5 WEST_MED 10.51
6 EAST_MED 5.93
7 WEST_ASIAN 5.56
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.48
thank you
North Europe PCA
https://image.ibb.co/itkLxQ/arnoldposter_PCA_NORTH.png (https://ibb.co/ghayj5)
All of europe PCA
https://image.ibb.co/gy14P5/arnoldposter_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/mVoUrk)
Damiăo de Góis
08-22-2017, 10:04 PM
When you have the opportunity:
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 8.66
EAST_EURO 4.50
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.44
ATLANTIC 23.67
WEST_MED 21.91
EAST_MED 11.66
WEST_ASIAN 4.05
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.09
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 2.32
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.70
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 10:14 PM
When you have the opportunity:
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 8.66
EAST_EURO 4.50
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.44
ATLANTIC 23.67
WEST_MED 21.91
EAST_MED 11.66
WEST_ASIAN 4.05
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.09
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 2.32
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.70
You seem to be pretty typical for your country :). a little north eastern shifted
https://image.ibb.co/kRexcQ/Endovelico_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/gosHcQ)
Karol Klačansky
08-22-2017, 10:19 PM
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 23.73
2 ATLANTIC 23.68
3 EAST_EURO 14.31
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 13.65
5 WEST_MED 10.51
6 EAST_MED 5.93
7 WEST_ASIAN 5.56
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.48
thank you
hey what is your ethnicity by the way? you look like you are either east german or have some eastern euro background?
Kelmendasi
08-22-2017, 10:26 PM
Can you add me please?
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.07
EAST_EURO 3.84
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.95
ATLANTIC 12.44
WEST_MED 21.12
EAST_MED 22.71
WEST_ASIAN 8.61
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.25
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN
Ibericus
08-22-2017, 10:33 PM
SOUTH_BALTIC 7.73
EAST_EURO 4.43
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.72
ATLANTIC 25.65
WEST_MED 22.50
EAST_MED 11.19
WEST_ASIAN 2.36
MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.70
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 0.54
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.16
MysteriousWays
08-22-2017, 10:45 PM
Do you mind adding me as well please?
SOUTH_BALTIC 2.28
EAST_EURO 5.62
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.36
ATLANTIC 12.35
WEST_MED 12.47
EAST_MED 29.83
WEST_ASIAN 13.83
MIDDLE_EASTERN 13.67
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.08
EAST_AFRICAN 1.57
EAST_ASIAN 0.96
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
alnortedelsur
08-23-2017, 05:19 AM
With my 23AndMe raw data:
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.70
EAST_EURO 5.93
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.18
ATLANTIC 22.56
WEST_MED 16.73
EAST_MED 12.33
WEST_ASIAN 3.63
MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.18
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 1.47
EAST_ASIAN 1.47
SIBERIAN 3.19
WEST_AFRICAN 4.63
With my Ancestry DNA raw data:
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 7.01
EAST_EURO 5.49
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.71
ATLANTIC 21.76
WEST_MED 17.29
EAST_MED 12.58
WEST_ASIAN 4.59
MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.82
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 1.34
EAST_ASIAN 1.37
SIBERIAN 3.51
WEST_AFRICAN 4.53
Thanks in advance.
Kriptc06
08-23-2017, 05:28 AM
Thanks
SOUTH_BALTIC 5.80
EAST_EURO 9.13
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.55
ATLANTIC 17.34
WEST_MED 14.45
EAST_MED 8.58
WEST_ASIAN 4.15
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.94
SOUTH_ASIAN 2.61
EAST_AFRICAN 1.35
EAST_ASIAN 2.20
SIBERIAN 5.98
WEST_AFRICAN 8.94
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 08:31 AM
Can you add me please?
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.07
EAST_EURO 3.84
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.95
ATLANTIC 12.44
WEST_MED 21.12
EAST_MED 22.71
WEST_ASIAN 8.61
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.25
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN
https://image.ibb.co/gfXTZ5/kelemendasi_PCA_ALL_EU.png (https://ibb.co/cLvRMk)
if someone could give me an average for albanians that would be great
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 08:32 AM
SOUTH_BALTIC 7.73
EAST_EURO 4.43
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.72
ATLANTIC 25.65
WEST_MED 22.50
EAST_MED 11.19
WEST_ASIAN 2.36
MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.70
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 0.54
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.16
right in the iberian mix :)
https://image.ibb.co/m9wBnQ/Ibericus_PCA_EU_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/jq3rnQ)
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 08:34 AM
Do you mind adding me as well please?
SOUTH_BALTIC 2.28
EAST_EURO 5.62
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.36
ATLANTIC 12.35
WEST_MED 12.47
EAST_MED 29.83
WEST_ASIAN 13.83
MIDDLE_EASTERN 13.67
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.08
EAST_AFRICAN 1.57
EAST_ASIAN 0.96
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
https://image.ibb.co/c8jT1k/Mysterious_Ways_PCA_EU_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/mW1mnQ)
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 10:19 AM
With my 23AndMe raw data:
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.70
EAST_EURO 5.93
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.18
ATLANTIC 22.56
WEST_MED 16.73
EAST_MED 12.33
WEST_ASIAN 3.63
MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.18
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 1.47
EAST_ASIAN 1.47
SIBERIAN 3.19
WEST_AFRICAN 4.63
With my Ancestry DNA raw data:
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 7.01
EAST_EURO 5.49
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.71
ATLANTIC 21.76
WEST_MED 17.29
EAST_MED 12.58
WEST_ASIAN 4.59
MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.82
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 1.34
EAST_ASIAN 1.37
SIBERIAN 3.51
WEST_AFRICAN 4.53
Thanks in advance.
https://image.ibb.co/fC9d1k/alnort_23_and_ancestry_ALL_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/czEYZ5)
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 10:22 AM
Thanks
SOUTH_BALTIC 5.80
EAST_EURO 9.13
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.55
ATLANTIC 17.34
WEST_MED 14.45
EAST_MED 8.58
WEST_ASIAN 4.15
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.94
SOUTH_ASIAN 2.61
EAST_AFRICAN 1.35
EAST_ASIAN 2.20
SIBERIAN 5.98
WEST_AFRICAN 8.94
https://image.ibb.co/mzve7Q/Penta_Dragon_PCA_ALL_EU.png (https://ibb.co/ciMK7Q)
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 10:45 AM
North Dutch (1)
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.54
EAST_EURO 12.60
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 32.68
ATLANTIC 27.87
WEST_MED 7.47
EAST_MED 1.42
WEST_ASIAN 5.41
North Dutch (2)
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.91
EAST_EURO 12.15
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 30.02
ATLANTIC 27.74
WEST_MED 11.55
WEST_ASIAN 5.62
South Italian (3)
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 5.02
EAST_EURO 2.43
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.20
ATLANTIC 9.62
WEST_MED 18.76
EAST_MED 31.74
WEST_ASIAN 12.26
MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.97
These are my mom (1) my maternal grandfather (2) and my 2nd cousin 2x (3)
Thank you!
thanks for sharing, sorry i didnt get back earlier i somehow forgot to answer this post. You are clearly half dutch and half south italian. Your dutch family seems to be extremely north western euro, more so than the dutch average for this calculator, and the opposite is true of your south italian family which plots even further south.
https://image.ibb.co/jwRfE5/Alessio_Family_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/hcXLE5)
Tchek
08-23-2017, 11:02 AM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 9.98
EAST_EURO 7.07
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.24
ATLANTIC 27.92
WEST_MED 14.17
EAST_MED 11.06
WEST_ASIAN 3.91
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.09
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.45
EAST_AFRICAN 0.12
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
Thanks!
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 11:12 AM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 9.98
EAST_EURO 7.07
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.24
ATLANTIC 27.92
WEST_MED 14.17
EAST_MED 11.06
WEST_ASIAN 3.91
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.09
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.45
EAST_AFRICAN 0.12
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
Thanks!
Spelled your name wrong but im too lazy to change it now sorry bout that :)
All of europe
https://image.ibb.co/bDCqxQ/tcheck_PCA_ALL_EU.png (https://ibb.co/dHeEP5)
North Europe
https://image.ibb.co/hKZncQ/tcheck_PCA_NORTH_EU.png (https://ibb.co/kdS7cQ)
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 11:30 AM
Here is the PCA so far with all members of european descent. I also added my mother and my brother Lukas
https://image.ibb.co/dh4HBk/Members_PCA_Plot.png (https://ibb.co/bu3oHQ)
Sikeliot
08-23-2017, 11:47 AM
SE Sicily:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 27.37
2 WEST_MED 19.13
3 ATLANTIC 14.85
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.63
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.87
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.96
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 3.42
8 WEST_AFRICAN 1.46
9 EAST_EURO 1.22
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.09
Messina:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.97
2 WEST_MED 17.71
3 ATLANTIC 13.31
4 WEST_ASIAN 12.52
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.76
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 6.1
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.71
8 EAST_AFRICAN 1.52
9 EAST_EURO 1.07
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.33
Caltanissetta:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 27.63
2 WEST_MED 18.09
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.64
4 WEST_ASIAN 12.62
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 12.37
6 ATLANTIC 11.47
7 EAST_EURO 2.25
8 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.23
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.36
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.33
Trapani:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 25.88
2 WEST_MED 20.11
3 ATLANTIC 14.59
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.51
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.42
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.33
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.63
8 EAST_AFRICAN 1.52
9 EAST_EURO 0.65
10 EAST_ASIAN 0.35
Palermo_2:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.4
2 WEST_MED 16.53
3 ATLANTIC 13.51
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.9
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.11
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 8.15
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.75
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.43
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.21
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 12:43 PM
SE Sicily:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 27.37
2 WEST_MED 19.13
3 ATLANTIC 14.85
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.63
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.87
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.96
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 3.42
8 WEST_AFRICAN 1.46
9 EAST_EURO 1.22
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.09
Messina:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 32.97
2 WEST_MED 17.71
3 ATLANTIC 13.31
4 WEST_ASIAN 12.52
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.76
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 6.1
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.71
8 EAST_AFRICAN 1.52
9 EAST_EURO 1.07
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.33
Caltanissetta:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 27.63
2 WEST_MED 18.09
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.64
4 WEST_ASIAN 12.62
5 MIDDLE_EASTERN 12.37
6 ATLANTIC 11.47
7 EAST_EURO 2.25
8 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.23
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.36
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.33
Trapani:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 25.88
2 WEST_MED 20.11
3 ATLANTIC 14.59
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.51
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.42
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.33
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.63
8 EAST_AFRICAN 1.52
9 EAST_EURO 0.65
10 EAST_ASIAN 0.35
Palermo_2:
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 33.4
2 WEST_MED 16.53
3 ATLANTIC 13.51
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 11.9
5 WEST_ASIAN 10.11
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 8.15
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 5.75
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.43
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.21
thanks for the samples, next time if you could just post their results in the order that gedmatch gives them before you click on oracle. It tripples the time it takes to put them in my pca when its in a different order!
https://image.ibb.co/j8h145/south_Italian_samples_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/mZJKrk)
alnortedelsur
08-23-2017, 02:22 PM
https://image.ibb.co/fC9d1k/alnort_23_and_ancestry_ALL_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/czEYZ5)
Thanks bro :cool:
Ibericus
08-23-2017, 03:49 PM
right in the iberian mix :)
https://image.ibb.co/m9wBnQ/Ibericus_PCA_EU_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/jq3rnQ)
Thanks, Can you put these regional averages ? If it creates a big mess in the iberian area, you can just delete them after :
Catalan 7,39 3,56 19,25 29,06 23,55 10,88 1,65 3,79 0,27 0,36 0,09 0,05 0,11
La_Rioja 7,344 3,026 18,334 32,624 24,328 10,748 0,042 2,96 0,106 0,312 0 0 0,174
Andalusian 6,89 4,83 17,15 27,91 23,02 12,50 0,85 5,88 0,01 0,46 0,12 0,00 0,38
Aragon 7,11 3,47 18,10 29,86 24,17 11,38 0,92 4,12 0,11 0,51 0,00 0,07 0,19
French_South 8,88 4,40 22,47 27,60 21,41 10,20 2,27 2,41 0,19 0,03 0,08 0,04 0,00
Kriptc06
08-23-2017, 03:50 PM
https://image.ibb.co/mzve7Q/Penta_Dragon_PCA_ALL_EU.png (https://ibb.co/ciMK7Q)
thanks mate, again I plot in the middle of Romania and Portugal... what a cool surprise, despite my non-eu
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 08:34 PM
Thanks, Can you put these regional averages ? If it creates a big mess in the iberian area, you can just delete them after :
Catalan 7,39 3,56 19,25 29,06 23,55 10,88 1,65 3,79 0,27 0,36 0,09 0,05 0,11
La_Rioja 7,344 3,026 18,334 32,624 24,328 10,748 0,042 2,96 0,106 0,312 0 0 0,174
Andalusian 6,89 4,83 17,15 27,91 23,02 12,50 0,85 5,88 0,01 0,46 0,12 0,00 0,38
Aragon 7,11 3,47 18,10 29,86 24,17 11,38 0,92 4,12 0,11 0,51 0,00 0,07 0,19
French_South 8,88 4,40 22,47 27,60 21,41 10,20 2,27 2,41 0,19 0,03 0,08 0,04 0,00
I didnt add the La rioja sample, are there supposed to be four digits?
https://image.ibb.co/icXkGk/Iberian_PCAs.png (https://ibb.co/em3swk)
Ibericus
08-23-2017, 09:03 PM
I didnt add the La rioja sample, are there supposed to be four digits?
https://image.ibb.co/icXkGk/Iberian_PCAs.png (https://ibb.co/em3swk)
ok then like this :
La_Rioja 7,34 3,03 18,33 32,62 24,33 10,75 0,04 2,96 0,11 0,31 0,00 0,00 0,17
Thanks,
Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 09:49 PM
ok then like this :
La_Rioja7,343,0318,3332,6224,3310,750,042,960,110, 310,000,000,17
Thanks,Ibericus that looks like one massive number [emoji23] u mean 7.34, 3.03, 18.33 etc?
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Karol Klačansky
08-23-2017, 10:38 PM
ok then like this :
La_Rioja 7,34 3,03 18,33 32,62 24,33 10,75 0,04 2,96 0,11 0,31 0,00 0,00 0,17
Thanks,
they are basque shifted. Interesting they made the PCA clearer a bit somehow
https://image.ibb.co/eRsSCQ/La_Rioja_PCA_EU_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/jBN5z5)
Karol Klačansky
08-24-2017, 09:11 PM
I added some more slavic samples. Litvin- Greater Poland, nchsh- Half mazovian, 1/4 Rusyn Ukr., 1/4 West Slovak, and then some slovak samples plus a czech moravian sample from member Syky.
all of europe
https://preview.ibb.co/cmWmNQ/slavic_samples_APR_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/jNmaGk)
https://preview.ibb.co/dvMvz5/Slavic_samples_ALL_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/kcazRk)
Northern Europe
https://preview.ibb.co/fQyEsQ/Slavic_samples_NORTH_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/hxZnCQ)
de Burgh II
08-24-2017, 09:34 PM
Thanks in advance broski! :3
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 10.99
EAST_EURO 7.99
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.56
ATLANTIC 30.80
WEST_MED 13.87
EAST_MED 4.93
WEST_ASIAN 4.13
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.13
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.44
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.17
WEST_AFRICAN -
Karol Klačansky
08-25-2017, 09:34 AM
Thanks in advance broski! :3
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 10.99
EAST_EURO 7.99
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.56
ATLANTIC 30.80
WEST_MED 13.87
EAST_MED 4.93
WEST_ASIAN 4.13
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.13
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.44
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.17
WEST_AFRICAN -
interesting, youre basque shifted.
all of europe
https://preview.ibb.co/fdFHgk/de_Burgh_2_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/gBrq1k)
Northern Europe
https://preview.ibb.co/f4xxgk/de_Burgh2_NORTH_EU.png (https://ibb.co/ee4M7Q)
Ibericus
08-25-2017, 10:40 AM
The images are too small
Karol Klačansky
08-25-2017, 10:45 AM
The images are too smallAll of them or just the last ones? You should be able to follow the link, u can download the image as well. On my computer they appear totally normal when I open them
Ibericus
08-25-2017, 12:14 PM
All of them or just the last ones? You should be able to follow the link, u can download the image as well. On my computer they appear totally normal when I open them
In this last page only. Seems like you are posting the "preview" instead of the actual image.
Damiăo de Góis
08-25-2017, 02:30 PM
The images are too small
Strangely if you click on "Click Here" it opens the preview:
https://preview.ibb.co/f4xxgk/de_Burgh2_NORTH_EU.png
But if you click on the image itself it opens the image:
https://ibb.co/gBrq1k
Karol Klačansky
08-25-2017, 04:49 PM
here are the results of Not a cop and his grandparents. I also addded belarussian guy "sviatogor"
all of Europe
https://preview.ibb.co/jHDXxQ/NOT_A_COP_PCA_ALL_EU.png (https://ibb.co/chzi45)
North Europe
https://image.ibb.co/fRfUcQ/NOT_A_COP_NORTH_EU.png
magicalM
08-26-2017, 12:31 PM
Thanks!
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC16.67
EAST_EURO14.55
NORTHCENTRAL_EURO25.67
ATLANTIC17.94
WEST_MED10.08
EAST_MED8.73
WEST_ASIAN5.53
MIDDLE_EASTERN- SOUTH_ASIAN0.64
EAST_AFRICAN-
EAST_ASIAN-
SIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN0.19
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Coolguy1
08-26-2017, 06:12 PM
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 29.65
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.99
3 WEST_MED 13.35
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 10.3
5 ATLANTIC 9.93
6 WEST_ASIAN 8.61
7 EAST_EURO 7.77
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.39
Thanks
Could you please add me ? I'd be curious to see that. Thank you :)
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 8.57
EAST_EURO 9.21
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 21.57
ATLANTIC 25.53
WEST_MED 21.10
EAST_MED 8.72
WEST_ASIAN 0.60
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.56
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.06
EAST_AFRICAN 0.08
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
Gangrel
08-26-2017, 06:34 PM
SOUTH_BALTIC 1.85
EAST_EURO 5.83
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 1.18
ATLANTIC 4.51
WEST_MED 4.00
EAST_MED 31.56
WEST_ASIAN 32.68
MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.47
SOUTH_ASIAN 3.92
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 1.67
SIBERIAN 4.89
WEST_AFRICAN 0.44
Do to mine what u did to myanthropologies pls
thank
Karol Klačansky
08-26-2017, 10:22 PM
Thanks!
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC16.67
EAST_EURO14.55
NORTHCENTRAL_EURO25.67
ATLANTIC17.94
WEST_MED10.08
EAST_MED8.73
WEST_ASIAN5.53
MIDDLE_EASTERN- SOUTH_ASIAN0.64
EAST_AFRICAN-
EAST_ASIAN-
SIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN0.19
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interesting youre very western shifted.
https://image.ibb.co/mp1XhQ/Others_PCA_ALL_EU.png (https://ibb.co/nyTChQ)
https://image.ibb.co/mVXG95/Others_PCA_NORTH_EU.png (https://ibb.co/hWLQ2Q)
Karol Klačansky
08-26-2017, 10:23 PM
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 29.65
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.99
3 WEST_MED 13.35
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 10.3
5 ATLANTIC 9.93
6 WEST_ASIAN 8.61
7 EAST_EURO 7.77
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.39
Thanks
close to greeks :)
https://preview.ibb.co/kRtdNQ/Others_PCA_ALL_EU.png (https://ibb.co/nyTChQ)
Karol Klačansky
08-26-2017, 10:25 PM
Could you please add me ? I'd be curious to see that. Thank you :)
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 8.57
EAST_EURO 9.21
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 21.57
ATLANTIC 25.53
WEST_MED 21.10
EAST_MED 8.72
WEST_ASIAN 0.60
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.56
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.06
EAST_AFRICAN 0.08
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
all of europe, your close to the french average. Probably if you were pure norman french youd be very north west shifted. The iberian and south french ancestry puts you back at the french average :)
https://preview.ibb.co/kRtdNQ/Others_PCA_ALL_EU.png (https://ibb.co/nyTChQ)
North EU
https://preview.ibb.co/nug9U5/Others_PCA_NORTH_EU.png (https://ibb.co/hWLQ2Q)
Alessio
08-26-2017, 10:31 PM
I forgot to add my mom in the beginning. If you could run this one as well, it'd be a blessing!
North_Dutch
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.54
EAST_EURO 12.60
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 32.68
ATLANTIC 27.87
WEST_MED 7.47
EAST_MED 1.42
WEST_ASIAN 5.41
Principe Azzurro
08-26-2017, 10:42 PM
Can you add mine as well
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 5.21
EAST_EURO -
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.00
ATLANTIC 12.42
WEST_MED 20.00
EAST_MED 33.42
WEST_ASIAN 5.20
MIDDLE_EASTERN 9.62
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 0.54
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.58
Karol Klačansky
08-27-2017, 11:39 AM
SOUTH_BALTIC 1.85
EAST_EURO 5.83
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 1.18
ATLANTIC 4.51
WEST_MED 4.00
EAST_MED 31.56
WEST_ASIAN 32.68
MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.47
SOUTH_ASIAN 3.92
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 1.67
SIBERIAN 4.89
WEST_AFRICAN 0.44
Do to mine what u did to myanthropologies pls
thank
https://image.ibb.co/kbpxz5/eggyolk_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/h1VgRk)
Karol Klačansky
08-27-2017, 11:58 AM
I forgot to add my mom in the beginning. If you could run this one as well, it'd be a blessing!
North_Dutch
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.54
EAST_EURO 12.60
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 32.68
ATLANTIC 27.87
WEST_MED 7.47
EAST_MED 1.42
WEST_ASIAN 5.41
you did add your mom at the beggining she was north dutch 1, but here it is agian. Your father is south italian 1 and your mom is alessios mom
https://image.ibb.co/f4Fy6k/alessios_parents.png (https://ibb.co/eeNNXQ)
Karol Klačansky
08-27-2017, 12:03 PM
Can you add mine as well
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 5.21
EAST_EURO -
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.00
ATLANTIC 12.42
WEST_MED 20.00
EAST_MED 33.42
WEST_ASIAN 5.20
MIDDLE_EASTERN 9.62
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 0.54
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.58
https://image.ibb.co/fFk4e5/principe_azz.png (https://ibb.co/i4VFmk)
Ibericus
08-27-2017, 02:45 PM
Can you add this Cantabrian guy :
SOUTH_BALTIC 7.65
EAST_EURO 5.41
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 21.39
ATLANTIC 26.72
WEST_MED 23.15
EAST_MED 12.21
WEST_ASIAN -
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.66
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.80
magicalM
08-27-2017, 05:10 PM
interesting youre very western shifted.
https://image.ibb.co/mp1XhQ/Others_PCA_ALL_EU.png (https://ibb.co/nyTChQ)
https://image.ibb.co/mVXG95/Others_PCA_NORTH_EU.png (https://ibb.co/hWLQ2Q)
Thanks again. Im really surprised about being so close to Austria in some pca pa's and others not . Other calculators show a slightly different shift. Like this one of the link I am sending. Keep on questioning why it is so different https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170827/fa6ea0fa88d4349f8d9b5c5bbba5c568.jpg
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Karol Klačansky
08-27-2017, 05:14 PM
Thanks again. Im really surprised about being so close to Austria in some pca pa's and others not . Other calculators show a slightly different shift. Like this one of the link I am sending. Keep on questioning why it is so different https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170827/fa6ea0fa88d4349f8d9b5c5bbba5c568.jpg
Sent from my LG-H815 using TapatalkWhat are your dodecad v3 results?
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magicalM
08-27-2017, 05:20 PM
Dedocad world 9. Others also show a slightly different story
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Karol Klačansky
08-27-2017, 05:25 PM
Dedocad world 9. Others also show a slightly different story
Sent from my LG-H815 using TapatalkCould you share ur dodecad v3 results though?
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Karol Klačansky
08-27-2017, 08:26 PM
Can you add this Cantabrian guy :
SOUTH_BALTIC 7.65
EAST_EURO 5.41
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 21.39
ATLANTIC 26.72
WEST_MED 23.15
EAST_MED 12.21
WEST_ASIAN -
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.66
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.80
hes a bit south french shifted
https://image.ibb.co/iVOhXQ/Cantabrian_PCA_EU_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/mTrrRk)
Karol Klačansky
12-19-2017, 09:15 PM
Bosniensis PCA
all of Europe
https://image.ibb.co/im0BPm/Bosniensis_PCA_all_of_europe.png (https://ibb.co/kLKSx6)
Northern Europe
https://image.ibb.co/gs3gPm/Bosniensis_North_EU.png (https://ibb.co/kN6Pc6)
you resemble serbs based on this calculator
Bosniensis
12-19-2017, 10:00 PM
Bosniensis PCA
all of Europe
https://image.ibb.co/im0BPm/Bosniensis_PCA_all_of_europe.png (https://ibb.co/kLKSx6)
Northern Europe
https://image.ibb.co/gs3gPm/Bosniensis_North_EU.png (https://ibb.co/kN6Pc6)
you resemble serbs based on this calculator
Awesome work :)
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EUtest Oracle results:
EUtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.
Kit M07XxXxX1
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 28.7
2 EAST_EURO 19.28
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.95
4 ATLANTIC 16.36
5 WEST_MED 8.53
6 EAST_MED 4.72
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.7
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.78
I would like to be put in plot also if possible. Father is from Silesia close to Czech border :thumb001:
Karol Klačansky
12-20-2017, 09:35 AM
You were right something is strange looking but i checked the numbers they are correct.....Dicks PCA
https://image.ibb.co/hGDhEm/Dick_PCA_all_EU.png (https://ibb.co/bDYSfR)
https://image.ibb.co/bUvCEm/Dick_PCA_NORTH.png (https://ibb.co/cWeuS6)
you seem Mena shifted
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
12-20-2017, 09:40 AM
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.64
EAST_EURO 6.90
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.99
ATLANTIC 21.17
WEST_MED 24.27
EAST_MED 11.22
WEST_ASIAN 3.28
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.90
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 2.22
EAST_ASIAN 0.05
SIBERIAN 0.14
WEST_AFRICAN 0.23
Ďakujem.
Norka
12-20-2017, 09:58 AM
SOUTH_BALTIC 24.42
EAST_EURO 26.64
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.42
ATLANTIC 15.98
WEST_MED 3.06
EAST_MED 2.59
WEST_ASIAN 4.85
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.14
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.24
SIBERIAN 7.67
WEST_AFRICAN -
Vojnik
12-20-2017, 10:11 AM
EUtest:
<tbody>
<tbody>
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC
13.68
EAST_EURO
10.00
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO
15.91
ATLANTIC
13.58
WEST_MED
14.02
EAST_MED
20.37
WEST_ASIAN
7.43
MIDDLE_EASTERN
5.01
SOUTH_ASIAN
-
EAST_AFRICAN
-
EAST_ASIAN
-
SIBERIAN
-
WEST_AFRICAN
-
<form method="post" action="https://www.gedmatch.com/oracle2.php">
</form>
</tbody>
</tbody>
Karol Klačansky
12-20-2017, 10:15 AM
EUtest Oracle results:
EUtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.
Kit M07XxXxX1
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 28.7
2 EAST_EURO 19.28
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.95
4 ATLANTIC 16.36
5 WEST_MED 8.53
6 EAST_MED 4.72
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.7
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.78
I would like to be put in plot also if possible. Father is from Silesia close to Czech border :thumb001:
you are close to litvin and another pole( NCHSH). Also not far from slovaks and czechs on this calculator. Polish average seems to be based on more eastern type poles.
https://image.ibb.co/nsWVH6/ALL_PCA_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/j3mKAR)
Northern europe
https://image.ibb.co/fhRxx6/ALL_NORTH_EU.png (https://ibb.co/jx4jc6)
Karol Klačansky
12-20-2017, 11:41 AM
SOUTH_BALTIC 24.42
EAST_EURO 26.64
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.42
ATLANTIC 15.98
WEST_MED 3.06
EAST_MED 2.59
WEST_ASIAN 4.85
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.14
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.24
SIBERIAN 7.67
WEST_AFRICAN -
https://image.ibb.co/eQd7VR/Norka.png (https://ibb.co/mU15H6)
https://image.ibb.co/bOYrqR/NORKA_NORTH.png (https://ibb.co/fbSvH6)
Karol Klačansky
12-20-2017, 11:51 AM
SOUTH_BALTIC 6.64
EAST_EURO 6.90
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.99
ATLANTIC 21.17
WEST_MED 24.27
EAST_MED 11.22
WEST_ASIAN 3.28
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.90
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 2.22
EAST_ASIAN 0.05
SIBERIAN 0.14
WEST_AFRICAN 0.23
Ďakujem.
neni zač
https://image.ibb.co/bETPAR/Viriato_PCA_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/bz2Uc6)
https://image.ibb.co/hfxec6/Viriato_NORTH_EU.png (https://ibb.co/me8Vjm)
Karol Klačansky
12-20-2017, 11:57 AM
EUtest:
<tbody>
<tbody>
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC
13.68
EAST_EURO
10.00
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO
15.91
ATLANTIC
13.58
WEST_MED
14.02
EAST_MED
20.37
WEST_ASIAN
7.43
MIDDLE_EASTERN
5.01
SOUTH_ASIAN
-
EAST_AFRICAN
-
EAST_ASIAN
-
SIBERIAN
-
WEST_AFRICAN
-
<form method="post" action="https://www.gedmatch.com/oracle2.php">
</form>
</tbody>
</tbody>
https://image.ibb.co/h479AR/Vojnik_ALL_EU.png (https://ibb.co/mwb2VR)
https://image.ibb.co/jMAqH6/Vojnik_NORTH_EU.png (https://ibb.co/h2GVH6)
Slavic Italian
12-20-2017, 02:15 PM
SOUTH_BALTIC 15.11
EAST_EURO 10.41
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.74
ATLANTIC 22.80
WEST_MED 11.14
EAST_MED 10.74
WEST_ASIAN 5.35
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.35
SOUTH_ASIAN 2.36
Kazimiera
12-20-2017, 02:20 PM
SOUTH_BALTIC 20.80
EAST_EURO 15.28
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.21
ATLANTIC 19.20
WEST_MED 8.44
EAST_MED 2.25
WEST_ASIAN 4.77
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.63
EAST_AFRICAN 0.96
EAST_ASIAN 0.71
WEST_AFRICAN 1.75
Karol Klačansky
12-20-2017, 02:41 PM
SOUTH_BALTIC 15.11
EAST_EURO 10.41
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.74
ATLANTIC 22.80
WEST_MED 11.14
EAST_MED 10.74
WEST_ASIAN 5.35
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.35
SOUTH_ASIAN 2.36
https://image.ibb.co/mubfZm/Slav_Italian_PCA_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/gGp0Zm)
https://image.ibb.co/dUcb76/slav_Italian_NORTH.png (https://ibb.co/fHd50R)
you resemble one of the austrian members on a PCA plot
Karol Klačansky
12-20-2017, 02:44 PM
SOUTH_BALTIC 20.80
EAST_EURO 15.28
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.21
ATLANTIC 19.20
WEST_MED 8.44
EAST_MED 2.25
WEST_ASIAN 4.77
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.63
EAST_AFRICAN 0.96
EAST_ASIAN 0.71
WEST_AFRICAN 1.75
https://image.ibb.co/duyNfR/Kazimiera_ALL_PCA.png (https://ibb.co/bMOoLR)
https://image.ibb.co/igK676/Kazimiera_North_EU.png (https://ibb.co/fzHtn6)
we arent too far away on a PCA plot, youre also quite northern shifted.
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 25.47
EAST_EURO 29.81
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.74
ATLANTIC 9.54
WEST_MED 4.62
EAST_MED 1.97
WEST_ASIAN 5.01
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.03
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.27
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.21
SIBERIAN 3.33
WEST_AFRICAN -
Slavic Italian
12-20-2017, 03:32 PM
https://image.ibb.co/mubfZm/Slav_Italian_PCA_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/gGp0Zm)
https://image.ibb.co/dUcb76/slav_Italian_NORTH.png (https://ibb.co/fHd50R)
you resemble one of the austrian members on a PCA plot
Does that imply Austrian roots? My grandfather was German but maybe Austrian??? They are almost the same.
Karol Klačansky
12-20-2017, 08:28 PM
Does that imply Austrian roots? My grandfather was German but maybe Austrian??? They are almost the same.
Germans and Austrians arent genetically the same, bavarians and austrians are similar but austrians are too eastern, and have more med influence as well. I explained this in a pm
Slavic Italian
12-20-2017, 08:32 PM
Germans and Austrians arent genetically the same, bavarians and austrians are similar but austrians are too eastern, and have more med influence as well. I explained this in a pm
Thanks. I appreciated it.
Karol Klačansky
12-20-2017, 08:38 PM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 25.47
EAST_EURO 29.81
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.74
ATLANTIC 9.54
WEST_MED 4.62
EAST_MED 1.97
WEST_ASIAN 5.01
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.03
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.27
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.21
SIBERIAN 3.33
WEST_AFRICAN -
https://image.ibb.co/ndFPS6/Leto_PCA_ALL.png (https://ibb.co/jKN4S6)
https://image.ibb.co/dpiiLR/Leto_PCA_northern_EU.png (https://ibb.co/ceG3LR)
close to Belarusian average :thumb001:
Kelmendasi
12-20-2017, 09:05 PM
Could you please do my 23andme kit?
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.12
EAST_EURO 2.46
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.45
ATLANTIC 12.13
WEST_MED 19.68
EAST_MED 22.40
WEST_ASIAN 9.26
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.50
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
close to Belarusian average :thumb001:
Thank you! Yeah, I'm apparently between Northern and Western Russians. Don't know what they took as Western Russians though.
Karol Klačansky
12-20-2017, 09:34 PM
Thank you! Yeah, I'm apparently between Northern and Western Russians. Don't know what they took as Western Russians though.
Russia bordering Ukraine from the east im assuming
For those Europeans who plot together on this pca [not to shy about stats]; can you start a separate thread and add size and height in cm and kg. or add results to this pca?
184cm.
88kg.
Karol Klačansky
12-21-2017, 11:29 AM
For those Europeans who plot together on this pca [not to shy about stats]; can you start a separate thread and add size and height in cm and kg. or add results to this pca?
184cm.
88kg.185, 75 kilos
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oszkar07
12-21-2017, 12:17 PM
180,
90 kg
For those Europeans who plot together on this pca [not to shy about stats]; can you start a separate thread and add size and height in cm and kg. or add results to this pca?
184cm.
88kg.
Who cares about that information?
Who cares about that information?
If you feel uncomfortable, that is not a problem. No one is judging you, so don't worry. Scientific papers have noticed that people from different parts of Europe have different phenotypes and vary in height according to location. Some areas data is missing or incomplete, or needs to be updated, we all cluster in the same general location, with overlapping genes.
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/azA7PMx_700b_v1.jpg
Who cares about that information?
also this information
https://europeisnotdead.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/european-john-thomas-size.png
If you feel uncomfortable, that is not a problem. No one is judging you, so don't worry. Scientific papers have noticed that people from different parts of Europe have different phenotypes and vary in height according to location. Some areas data is missing or incomplete, or needs to be updated, we all cluster in the same general location, with overlapping genes.
I don't feel really uncomfortable, I just didn't find that important regarding this topic.
also this information
Lol, be the first to provide this information.
Senpai
12-21-2017, 05:06 PM
1 ATLANTIC 27.81
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.78
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.94
4 WEST_MED 11.23
5 EAST_EURO 9.19
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.37
7 EAST_MED 1.65
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.95
9 SIBERIAN 0.84
10 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.24
Karol Klačansky
12-21-2017, 05:11 PM
Could you please do my 23andme kit?
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.12
EAST_EURO 2.46
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.45
ATLANTIC 12.13
WEST_MED 19.68
EAST_MED 22.40
WEST_ASIAN 9.26
MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.50
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
literally same position https://image.ibb.co/gePNX6/Kel23.png (https://ibb.co/kmKBQR)
Karol Klačansky
12-21-2017, 05:17 PM
1 ATLANTIC 27.81
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.78
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.94
4 WEST_MED 11.23
5 EAST_EURO 9.19
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.37
7 EAST_MED 1.65
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.95
9 SIBERIAN 0.84
10 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.24
you look dutch and plot basically dutch
https://image.ibb.co/n2gxzm/Senpai.png (https://ibb.co/mcoMQR)
https://image.ibb.co/c8rKC6/senpai_NORTH_EU.png (https://ibb.co/iRwVKm)
Thracian
12-21-2017, 05:44 PM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 10.10
EAST_EURO 7.19
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.60
ATLANTIC 11.00
WEST_MED 10.93
EAST_MED 23.43
WEST_ASIAN 14.33
MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.86
SOUTH_ASIAN 3.08
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 2.44
WEST_AFRICAN -
Could you do that for me as well? Thanks.
also this information
https://europeisnotdead.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/european-john-thomas-size.png
Very funny, :) Hungary happens to have a wave of Yamnaya ancient burials.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18q72B7FjzGxRpLAvI0WsoEBsRR92-skS/view
CabOOM
12-21-2017, 08:52 PM
What you're saying is, Romanians have small penises. And that is why Romanian women like Hungarian men.
This is racist to Chinese people.
also this information
https://europeisnotdead.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/european-john-thomas-size.png
Senpai
12-21-2017, 08:53 PM
also this information
https://europeisnotdead.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/european-john-thomas-size.png
Damn, Europe got some small dicks.
CabOOM
12-21-2017, 09:28 PM
Damn, Europe got some small dicks.
Romanians competing with Chinese.
Senpai
12-21-2017, 09:30 PM
Romanians competing with Chinese.
TA's Romanians need to defend themselves on this one, Lord.
Damn, Europe got some small dicks.
France is suspiciously black. :lol:
Senpai
12-21-2017, 10:24 PM
France is suspiciously black. :lol:
I'm not even impressed with France according to this! At least they got something though, hahaha. I'll never forget the first time I seen averages for Asia, I spit my fucking drink out, I thought it was a myth.
greasycaveman
12-21-2017, 10:27 PM
SOUTH_BALTIC 22.40
EAST_EURO 16.28
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 23.11
ATLANTIC 19.74
WEST_MED 7.02
EAST_MED 10.09
WEST_ASIAN -
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.32
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.13
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.88
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
I'm not even impressed with France according to this! At least they got something though, hahaha. I'll never forget the first time I seen averages for Asia, I spit my fucking drink out, I thought it was a myth.
Actually that's all rather BS if we are being serious. There have been several studies on peanus size and none of them has confirmed that there are significant racial difference when it comes to that.
Senpai
12-21-2017, 10:32 PM
Actually that's all rather BS if we are being serious. There have been several studies on peanus size and none of them has confirmed that there are significant racial difference when it comes to that.
Have you ever looked at world averages? Ther'es a massive difference.
Actually that's all rather BS if we are being serious. There have been several studies on peanus size and none of them has confirmed that there are significant racial difference when it comes to that.
Maybe some apricity slut will be able to confirm.
greasycaveman
12-21-2017, 10:35 PM
I'm not even impressed with France according to this! At least they got something though, hahaha. I'll never forget the first time I seen averages for Asia, I spit my fucking drink out, I thought it was a myth.
I heard that they are small, just like their noses, because they are less likely to freeze off. xD
Vid Flumina
12-22-2017, 12:05 PM
SOUTH_BALTIC 9.48
EAST_EURO 6.56
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.99
ATLANTIC 17.94
WEST_MED 20.38
EAST_MED 21.80
WEST_ASIAN 2.62
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.85
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 0.38
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
Karol Klačansky
12-22-2017, 01:40 PM
Actually that's all rather BS if we are being serious. There have been several studies on peanus size and none of them has confirmed that there are significant racial difference when it comes to that.This thread has been derailed [emoji23]. And bro whats a peanus? [emoji23][emoji23] sounds like a good nick name for Dick now, peanut+Dick=Peanus
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It would be interesting to take a poll, of all the Indo-European/European speakers who share a place in the Europe pca map, about their ideas of their linguistic/culture/diet- handed down to them by their forefathers, in Europe.
Maybe one of the mods can set up exclusive pca/european/linguistic/culture-lineage poll. Out of sight of the racist anti European trolls on this forum, on a private thread.
1)Exclusive survey to those who plot pca and speak Indo-European languages ancestrally.
What do you feel is the best use of Indo-European[European linguist] linguistic/culture, unity, among people of European heritage,all across Europe?
1] To promote the families who descended from the above people to have families both nuclear, and extended, and keep linguistic and cultural traditions alive ?
2]To promote he use of the European/linguistic/cultural heritage, for Political leaders to use it for their own agenda, collect taxes, and or imprison people at their leisure?
3]To promote the use of a generous welfare state, giving free benefits to everyone?
4]To promote foreign non-Europeans use of European/linguistic/cultural for their own gain/benefit?
https://image.ibb.co/duyNfR/Kazimiera_ALL_PCA.png
Karol Klačansky
03-11-2018, 10:24 PM
Vlatkos resulst on the pca.
all of europe
https://image.ibb.co/cPuHJS/Vlatko.png (https://ibb.co/epntsn)
north EU
https://image.ibb.co/cerWdS/Vlatko_north_EU.png (https://ibb.co/dStzXn)
Bobby Martnen
03-12-2018, 08:30 AM
1. please share your results as they are before you do the oracle, it is simpler. So dont share oracle results.
Please do me!
SOUTH_BALTIC 13.27
EAST_EURO 14.05
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.77
ATLANTIC 21.80
WEST_MED 11.66
EAST_MED 8.81
WEST_ASIAN 7.40
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.18
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.06
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
FilhoV
03-12-2018, 11:31 AM
I created a PCA plot for the eurogenes EU calculator (NOT THE EU K15). The PCA contains me and my father and both our ancestry and living dna kits. I also made an average from 11 slovak kits (SVK). pl.ua is an ethnic pole from western ukraine, and pl.south is a pole from southern poland. They are not averages but actual individuals. Ive also included Apricity members mlukas and Oszkar already. I can only accept european results right now, so no MENAS because when I add MENAS I cant keep the lables and I lose variation. Thats why ive included a pca of all of europe and one of just northern europe.
1. please share your results as they are before you do the oracle, it is simpler. So dont share oracle results.
2. I cant promise the pca wont shift around a bit.
3. I cant promise to be as fast in my replies as Ibericus, and I will start adding people tomorrow.
If you make an average of your european country that isnt already included that would be great. Thanks a lot!
https://image.ibb.co/knGxbk/PCA_EU_ALL_EU_present.png (https://ibb.co/esLep5)
https://image.ibb.co/gSoAwk/Eurogenes_EU_PCA_present_North_EU.png (https://ibb.co/mgRxbk)
Mine
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 4.45
EAST_EURO 4.56
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.43
ATLANTIC 27.46
WEST_MED 23.00
EAST_MED 13.53
WEST_ASIAN 1.11
MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.62
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 1.38
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 1.45
Please add Stears! :)
SOUTH_BALTIC 20.33
EAST_EURO 14.73
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.81
ATLANTIC 12.75
WEST_MED 9.06
EAST_MED 11.31
WEST_ASIAN 6.06
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.94
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.57
EAST_AFRICAN 0.15
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 1.27
WEST_AFRICAN -
Profileid
03-12-2018, 12:13 PM
add me plz
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 12.35
EAST_EURO 12.73
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 27.86
ATLANTIC 26.66
WEST_MED 9.09
EAST_MED 2.38
WEST_ASIAN 6.53
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN-2.40
Maintenance
03-12-2018, 12:15 PM
dey
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 25.89
EAST_EURO 17.38
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.91
ATLANTIC 11.96
WEST_MED 13.37
EAST_MED 6.49
WEST_ASIAN 5.07
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.61
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.32
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
Profileid
03-12-2018, 12:17 PM
Please add Stears! :)
SOUTH_BALTIC 20.33
EAST_EURO 14.73
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.81
ATLANTIC 12.75
WEST_MED 9.06
EAST_MED 11.31
WEST_ASIAN 6.06
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.94
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.57
EAST_AFRICAN 0.15
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 1.27
WEST_AFRICAN -
That south asian. xD Does he get it on all calcs? I get anywhere between 2-3.40. My admix is small but I know it's not noise.
Btw what is east euro on here and why would I get twice as much as Stears?
That south asian. xD Does he get it on all calcs?
Yeah he does :p It is def. real in his case, coming from high Kavkazian admixture, I think.
I get anywhere between 2-3.40. My admix is small but I know it's not noise.
Where do you get it from, Gypsy, Indian ?
Btw what is east euro on here and why would I get twice as much as Stears?
It is Finnic type ancestry that peaks in Udmurts and north Russians. Aren't you part Transylvanian Saxon ? They mixed with Hungarians (Romanians too), and that could possibly explain it ? Or it is ancient east euro ancestry that I noticed lot of British Islanders (Ireland especially)
carry.
Profileid
03-12-2018, 12:29 PM
Yeah he does :p It is def. real in his case, coming from high Kavkazian admixture, I think.
Where do you get it from, Gypsy, Indian ?
It's interesting. I get some south asian but no MENA,none that shows up on calcs even.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?216636-ETAIN-S-RESULTS
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?231246-Is-this-South-Asian-noise
It is Finnic type ancestry that peaks in Udmurts and north Russians. Aren't you part Transylvanian Saxon ? They mixed with Hungarians (Romanians too), and that could possibly explain it ? Or it is ancient east euro ancestry that I noticed lot of British Islanders (Ireland especially)
carry.
It's very ancient in his case then. Yes, my maternal great-grandfather came from there(verified by 1940 census records) and identified as ethnic German.
I just checked a kit I have from an English man with Irish ancestors and he gets 14.03 East Euro for this test,even more than me.
It's interesting. I get some south asian but no MENA,none that shows up on calcs even.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?216636-ETAIN-S-RESULTS
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?231246-Is-this-South-Asian-noise
For some reason north Europeans can get noise south asian, probably some steppe type ancestry. I remember Grace got it on some calculators if I remember well, and she is very steppe shifted Irish.
It's common among Finno-Ugric populations too, even Tatars.
It's very ancient in his case then. Yes, my maternal great-grandfather came from there(verified by 1940 census records) and identified as ethnic German.
I just checked a kit I have from an English man with Irish ancestors and he gets 14.03 East Euro for this test,even more than me.
Yes :)
That's because all northern Europeans from Ireland to Russia share lot of bronze age ancestry, in Europe north/south division is quite bigger than west/east, in my opinion.
Maintenance
03-12-2018, 12:41 PM
add me
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 0.80
EAST_EURO -
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 5.10
ATLANTIC 5.08
WEST_MED 14.87
EAST_MED 42.79
WEST_ASIAN 16.67
MIDDLE_EASTERN 12.58
SOUTH_ASIAN 1.34
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.50
WEST_AFRICAN 0.24
Carpatz
03-12-2018, 01:21 PM
me too
# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 20.17
2 EAST_MED 18.68
3 WEST_MED 14.59
4 ATLANTIC 14.27
5 EAST_EURO 12.28
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.01
7 WEST_ASIAN 7.18
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.32
9 SIBERIAN 1.27
10 EAST_ASIAN 0.23
SIBERIAN 0.50
https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Impossibru-Guy-Original.jpg
ovidiu
03-13-2018, 11:18 PM
^Lol, I recall someone (I think that Maintenance guy) said you looked like a depigmented Japanese person in another thread. Even considering obvious exaggeration, I assume that was totally a joke or trolling, and not based off anything real? Cause I can't see how someone with those results could look anything close to that haha. Unless genes really have no link to appearance.
anyway mine can be added in too
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 23.14
2 WEST_MED 14.13
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.93
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 13.8
5 ATLANTIC 13.51
6 EAST_EURO 12.38
7 WEST_ASIAN 6.3
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.58
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.32
I seem to get Romania, Serbia, Hungary, North Italy, and Tuscany often in the Oracle thingy on these calcs.
Carpatz
03-13-2018, 11:26 PM
^Lol, I recall someone (I think that Maintenance guy) said you looked like a depigmented Japanese person in another thread. Even considering obvious exaggeration, I assume that was totally a joke or trolling, and not based off anything real? Cause I can't see how someone with those results could look anything close to that haha. Unless genes really have no link to appearance.
anyway mine can be added in too
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 23.14
2 WEST_MED 14.13
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.93
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 13.8
5 ATLANTIC 13.51
6 EAST_EURO 12.38
7 WEST_ASIAN 6.3
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.58
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.32
I seem to get Romania, Serbia, Hungary, North Italy, and Tuscany often in the Oracle thingy on these calcs.
He's never seen me lol. He's just hating because he's idiot wog gay
ovidiu
03-14-2018, 03:38 AM
Oh, okay. That makes sense. I figured it was some inside thing (like a long running forum beef in the style of Cristiano Viejo and Bobby Martnen) I wasn't aware of.:thumb001:
Mingle
03-14-2018, 03:41 AM
I created a PCA plot for the eurogenes EU calculator (NOT THE EU K15). The PCA contains me and my father and both our ancestry and living dna kits. I also made an average from 11 slovak kits (SVK). pl.ua is an ethnic pole from western ukraine, and pl.south is a pole from southern poland. They are not averages but actual individuals. Ive also included Apricity members mlukas and Oszkar already. I can only accept european results right now, so no MENAS because when I add MENAS I cant keep the lables and I lose variation. Thats why ive included a pca of all of europe and one of just northern europe.
1. please share your results as they are before you do the oracle, it is simpler. So dont share oracle results.
2. I cant promise the pca wont shift around a bit.
3. I cant promise to be as fast in my replies as Ibericus, and I will start adding people tomorrow.
If you make an average of your european country that isnt already included that would be great. Thanks a lot!
https://image.ibb.co/knGxbk/PCA_EU_ALL_EU_present.png (https://ibb.co/esLep5)
https://image.ibb.co/gSoAwk/Eurogenes_EU_PCA_present_North_EU.png (https://ibb.co/mgRxbk)
How do you create a PCA?
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