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Sikeliot

08-22-2017, 01:20 AM

Unlike what the Turkish users say in their trollish threads about Cretans, they are closest to Sicilians with SOME Of these shifting north and some south. Yes, they are closer to the Levant than mainland southern Europeans (except Calabria/Campania) but not AS close as many users are saying when trying to cause offense -- not that it would be anything to be offended about of course.

Half North Italian and half Lebanese, OR half Cypriot and half Bulgarian/Romanian works for most of them in two-way modeling. One of them is halfway between mainland Greeks and southern Italians.

#1:
Dodecad K12b:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.45
2 Atlantic_Med 27.37
3 Southwest_Asian 13.24
4 North_European 12.17
5 Gedrosia 9.02
6 Northwest_African 2.13

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 4.595671
2 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 5.904181
3 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 7.971142
4 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 8.156064
5 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 9.010222
6 Greek_Dodecad @ 10.661845
7 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 11.384278
8 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 12.140445
9 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 14.776685
10 Tuscan_HGDP @ 15.379024
11 TSI30_Metspalu @ 16.754793
12 Cypriots_Behar @ 18.147713
13 Turkish_Dodecad @ 19.430035
14 Lebanese_Behar @ 21.687704
15 Turks_Behar @ 22.001143
16 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 23.541641
17 Syrians_Behar @ 24.126743
18 North_Italian_HGDP @ 24.696234
19 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 25.230148
20 Druze_HGDP @ 25.415190

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze_HGDP +50% N_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.287482

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% C_Italian_Dodecad +25% S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad +25% Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.725379

Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.88
2 West_Asian 18.24
3 West_Med 17.38
4 Atlantic 10.98
5 North_Sea 9.49
6 Baltic 7.90
7 Red_Sea 4.73

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 5.113222
2 Central_Greek @ 5.678169
3 East_Sicilian @ 6.561079
4 Ashkenazi @ 9.416945
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.774721
6 Italian_Jewish @ 10.463097
7 Sephardic_Jewish @ 11.279280
8 West_Sicilian @ 12.048676
9 Algerian_Jewish @ 12.386685
10 Greek @ 12.611037
11 Greek_Thessaly @ 12.648289
12 Cyprian @ 14.820265
13 Tunisian_Jewish @ 14.876377
14 Libyan_Jewish @ 16.259689
15 Tuscan @ 16.538149
16 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.248125
17 Turkish @ 18.598433
18 Syrian @ 19.440748
19 Bulgarian @ 20.986494
20 Samaritan @ 22.787205

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +50% South_Italian @ 4.838691

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Central_Greek +25% Cyprian @ 4.346794

MDLP K23:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.96
2 European_Early_Farmers 24.16
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.97
4 Near_East 11.36
5 South_Central_Asian 6.46
6 North_African 5.04
7 Australoid 1.47

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 3.389923
2 Sicilian_East_ @ 3.697932
3 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.139861
4 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 4.269892
5 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 5.181263
6 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 5.317841
7 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.420635
8 Cretan_ @ 5.870097
9 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.020875
10 Sicilian_Center_ @ 6.400130
11 Italian_South_ @ 6.594312
12 French_Jew_ @ 6.676859
13 Maltese_ @ 6.756115
14 Greek_Athens_ @ 7.339146
15 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 7.595619
16 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 8.089826
17 Greek_ @ 8.132418
18 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.438208
19 Central_Greek_ @ 8.927812
20 Greek_Islands_ @ 9.316644

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan_ +50% Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 2.191487

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan_ +25% Italian_Abruzzo_ +25% Sicilian_West_ @ 1.829811

#2:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.93
2 Atlantic_Med 23.84
3 North_European 18.43
4 Southwest_Asian 11.24
5 Gedrosia 7.12
6 Northwest_African 1.90

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Dodecad @ 6.184783
2 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 7.861113
3 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 8.764028
4 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 9.286779
5 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 9.682191
6 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 12.562023
7 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 13.790037
8 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 14.351791
9 Tuscan_HGDP @ 16.265228
10 TSI30_Metspalu @ 17.711714
11 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 17.790436
12 Turkish_Dodecad @ 18.484510
13 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 18.839857
14 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 19.431049
15 Cypriots_Behar @ 20.078959
16 Romanians_Behar @ 20.818293
17 Turks_Behar @ 21.137987
18 Lebanese_Behar @ 23.654995
19 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 23.725458
20 North_Italian_HGDP @ 25.599886

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots_Behar +50% Romanians_Behar @ 4.222528

Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.53
2 West_Asian 16.88
3 West_Med 15.32
4 Atlantic 11.64
5 North_Sea 8.51
6 Baltic 7.35
7 Eastern_Euro 5.54
8 Red_Sea 4.33

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Greek @ 4.693383
2 East_Sicilian @ 6.460238
3 South_Italian @ 6.658134
4 Ashkenazi @ 6.761086
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 8.636604
6 Greek @ 9.797322
7 West_Sicilian @ 10.714497
8 Italian_Jewish @ 10.742491
9 Sephardic_Jewish @ 11.006077
10 Greek_Thessaly @ 11.434768
11 Algerian_Jewish @ 12.395844
12 Tunisian_Jewish @ 15.024058
13 Cyprian @ 15.229982
14 Tuscan @ 16.028666
15 Libyan_Jewish @ 16.859837
16 Turkish @ 17.812122
17 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.366264
18 Bulgarian @ 18.467478
19 Syrian @ 19.603308
20 Romanian @ 21.185028

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% Cyprian @ 3.355790

MDLP K23:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.17
2 European_Early_Farmers 17.80
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.02
4 Near_East 10.39
5 South_Central_Asian 7.17
6 North_African 3.25
7 Amerindian 1.20

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_ @ 4.112974
2 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 4.823229
3 Greek_Athens_ @ 5.522068
4 Cretan_ @ 6.619571
5 Azov_Greek_ @ 6.857995
6 Central_Greek_ @ 6.881587
7 Italian_South_ @ 7.188241
8 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 7.196832
9 Romanian_Jew_ @ 7.200843
10 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 7.690177
11 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.695239
12 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.122323
13 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 8.494423
14 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 9.033640
15 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ @ 9.421849
16 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 9.484832
17 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 9.679854
18 Sicilian_East_ @ 9.809369
19 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 10.027080
20 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 10.047124

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_ +50% Cypriot_ @ 2.342634

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Athens_ +25% Iraqi_Jew_ +25% Montenegrian_ @ 1.395555

#3:
Dodecad K12b:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.82
2 Atlantic_Med 24.09
3 Southwest_Asian 13.97
4 North_European 12.90
5 Gedrosia 6.65
6 Northwest_African 2.32

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 4.897866
2 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 5.773013
3 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 7.091363
4 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 7.721971
5 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 8.754333
6 Greek_Dodecad @ 10.186055
7 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 13.511359
8 Cypriots_Behar @ 13.741404
9 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 14.950598
10 Turkish_Dodecad @ 16.024828
11 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 18.348879
12 Turks_Behar @ 18.889839
13 Lebanese_Behar @ 18.932724
14 Tuscan_HGDP @ 19.127882
15 TSI30_Metspalu @ 20.765022
16 Druze_HGDP @ 21.532316
17 Syrians_Behar @ 22.196918
18 Jordanians_Behar @ 23.775824
19 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 24.147537
20 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 25.429874

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze_HGDP +50% O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.853919

Eurogenes K15::

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.86
2 West_Asian 17.79
3 West_Med 17.12
4 Atlantic 10.14
5 Red_Sea 7.17
6 North_Sea 7.08
7 Baltic 6.46
8 Eastern_Euro 2.97

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 5.873047
2 Central_Greek @ 6.458758
3 East_Sicilian @ 6.868949
4 Ashkenazi @ 8.043412
5 Sephardic_Jewish @ 8.678977
6 Italian_Jewish @ 8.774888
7 Algerian_Jewish @ 10.302762
8 Italian_Abruzzo @ 10.866325
9 Cyprian @ 11.829418
10 Tunisian_Jewish @ 12.309168
11 West_Sicilian @ 12.314291
12 Greek @ 13.217904
13 Greek_Thessaly @ 14.129284
14 Libyan_Jewish @ 14.178903
15 Lebanese_Muslim @ 15.568439
16 Syrian @ 16.478771
17 Turkish @ 17.256348
18 Tuscan @ 18.064110
19 Samaritan @ 19.795179
20 Jordanian @ 20.350399

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.917338

MDLP K23:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.81
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.00
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 12.94
4 Near_East 11.74
5 South_Central_Asian 6.21
6 North_African 4.83

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cretan_ @ 3.216349
2 Italian_South_ @ 4.219058
3 Romanian_Jew_ @ 4.804242
4 Greek_Athens_ @ 4.882472
5 Greek_ @ 5.105747
6 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.907371
7 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 6.164570
8 Sicilian_East_ @ 6.282292
9 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.515764
10 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 6.954541
11 Sicilian_Center_ @ 6.956816
12 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 7.122584
13 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 7.241621
14 Greek_Islands_ @ 7.649428
15 Central_Greek_ @ 8.175417
16 Sicilian_West_ @ 8.830421
17 French_Jew_ @ 9.407108
18 Azov_Greek_ @ 9.532244
19 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 9.597612
20 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 9.750798

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot_ +50% Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 1.888091

#4:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.35
2 Atlantic_Med 22.91
3 North_European 16.17
4 Southwest_Asian 11.58
5 Gedrosia 6.16
6 Northwest_African 2.78

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 5.605486
2 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 6.786428
3 Greek_Dodecad @ 7.711194
4 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 8.625120
5 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 8.838880
6 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 12.206123
7 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 13.903048
8 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 16.036154
9 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 16.125666
10 Turkish_Dodecad @ 16.689423
11 Cypriots_Behar @ 17.393724
12 Tuscan_HGDP @ 17.933386
13 Turks_Behar @ 19.477474
14 TSI30_Metspalu @ 19.502863
15 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 21.373318
16 Lebanese_Behar @ 21.478571
17 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 21.863970
18 Romanians_Behar @ 23.409246
19 Druze_HGDP @ 24.700222
20 Syrians_Behar @ 24.873543

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_Dodecad +50% Cypriots_Behar @ 4.552764

Eurogenes K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.00
2 West_Asian 15.30
3 West_Med 14.05
4 Atlantic 13.85
5 Baltic 8.71
6 North_Sea 6.24
7 Red_Sea 3.53
8 Eastern_Euro 3.04

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 7.298187
2 Central_Greek @ 8.286456
3 East_Sicilian @ 8.981342
4 Sephardic_Jewish @ 9.674219
5 Italian_Jewish @ 10.079624
6 Ashkenazi @ 10.148082
7 Algerian_Jewish @ 10.902188
8 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.091043
9 West_Sicilian @ 11.352446
10 Greek @ 11.929628
11 Tunisian_Jewish @ 12.730967
12 Cyprian @ 13.958510
13 Greek_Thessaly @ 14.813496
14 Libyan_Jewish @ 16.266655
15 Lebanese_Muslim @ 17.456663
16 Tuscan @ 17.958149
17 Syrian @ 19.178286
18 Turkish @ 19.427769
19 Bulgarian @ 21.007574
20 Samaritan @ 21.650322

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Greek @ 4.977677

MDLP K23:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.88
2 European_Early_Farmers 18.72
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 15.30
4 Near_East 8.50
5 North_African 5.43
6 South_Central_Asian 4.88
7 East_African 1.71
8 East_Siberian 1.24

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_ @ 3.941340
2 Greek_Athens_ @ 4.224533
3 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 4.948231
4 Italian_South_ @ 5.163974
5 Romanian_Jew_ @ 5.348897
6 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.826590
7 Central_Greek_ @ 6.453461
8 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 6.859215
9 Cretan_ @ 7.075120
10 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.408304
11 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 8.033528
12 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.174842
13 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.228406
14 Sicilian_East_ @ 8.607644
15 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 8.628988
16 Azov_Greek_ @ 8.696425
17 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.980361
18 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 9.209427
19 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 9.492172
20 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ @ 10.281894

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Macedonia_ +50% Italian_South_ @ 3.367191

#5:
Dodecad K12b:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.00
2 Atlantic_Med 21.93
3 Southwest_Asian 16.02
4 North_European 12.93
5 Gedrosia 6.19
6 Northwest_African 2.96

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 5.942986
2 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 6.431098
3 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 8.891848
4 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 9.183549
5 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 9.686874
6 Greek_Dodecad @ 11.893464
7 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 13.177807
8 Cypriots_Behar @ 13.565149
9 Turkish_Dodecad @ 15.915056
10 Lebanese_Behar @ 16.684816
11 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 16.946434
12 Turks_Behar @ 18.455914
13 Syrians_Behar @ 19.815363
14 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 19.866402
15 Druze_HGDP @ 20.082964
16 Tuscan_HGDP @ 21.182932
17 Jordanians_Behar @ 21.280373
18 TSI30_Metspalu @ 22.668007
19 Palestinian_HGDP @ 22.853117
20 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 22.967781

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze_HGDP +50% O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.631148

Eurogenes K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.55
2 West_Asian 17.55
3 West_Med 14.30
4 Atlantic 12.00
5 Red_Sea 8.54
6 Baltic 6.61
7 North_Sea 5.95
8 Eastern_Euro 1.48

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.884973
2 South_Italian @ 7.161129
3 Italian_Jewish @ 8.449983
4 East_Sicilian @ 8.460612
5 Central_Greek @ 8.771564
6 Ashkenazi @ 9.497207
7 Algerian_Jewish @ 9.787197
8 Tunisian_Jewish @ 9.907172
9 Cyprian @ 10.814602
10 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.897295
11 West_Sicilian @ 12.880954
12 Lebanese_Muslim @ 13.509032
13 Libyan_Jewish @ 13.521606
14 Syrian @ 14.588293
15 Greek @ 14.958746
16 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.491985
17 Turkish @ 17.001640
18 Samaritan @ 18.069725
19 Jordanian @ 18.132875
20 Tuscan @ 19.425978

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.689584

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Lebanese_Muslim +25% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.962028

MDLP K23:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.85
2 European_Early_Farmers 17.47
3 Near_East 15.20
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.84
5 South_Central_Asian 7.65
6 North_African 5.85

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cretan_ @ 4.063283
2 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 6.966811
3 Greek_Islands_ @ 7.748143
4 Cypriot_ @ 8.528577
5 Romanian_Jew_ @ 8.587165
6 Italian_South_ @ 8.713172
7 Sicilian_East_ @ 8.817628
8 Turk_Jew_ @ 9.092812
9 Syrian_Jew_ @ 9.099658
10 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 9.542031
11 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 9.579923
12 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 9.604321
13 French_Jew_ @ 9.711459
14 Italian_Jew_ @ 9.745976
15 Greek_Athens_ @ 10.097347
16 Greek_ @ 10.143516
17 Ashkenazi_ @ 10.291101
18 Sicilian_Center_ @ 10.321064
19 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 10.345342
20 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 10.511505

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Northwest_ +50% Lebanese_Christian_ @ 2.294779

#6:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.31
2 Atlantic_Med 23.58
3 North_European 14.06
4 Southwest_Asian 12.08
5 Gedrosia 8.21
6 Northwest_African 2.63

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 6.098000
2 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 7.209528
3 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 7.524740
4 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 8.138127
5 Greek_Dodecad @ 9.505034
6 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 10.415807
7 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 14.060590
8 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 14.465439
9 Turkish_Dodecad @ 15.666761
10 Cypriots_Behar @ 16.152042
11 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 16.750679
12 Tuscan_HGDP @ 18.162264
13 Turks_Behar @ 18.391058
14 TSI30_Metspalu @ 19.716309
15 Lebanese_Behar @ 20.094051
16 Druze_HGDP @ 23.370140
17 Syrians_Behar @ 23.398781
18 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 23.636883
19 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 24.222464
20 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 24.239471

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% C_Italian_Dodecad +50% Turkish_Dodecad @ 3.770304

Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.96
2 West_Med 17.97
3 West_Asian 17.82
4 North_Sea 9.65
5 Atlantic 7.25
6 Baltic 4.76
7 Eastern_Euro 4.30
8 Red_Sea 3.70

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 8.881868
2 Central_Greek @ 9.243752
3 East_Sicilian @ 10.150544
4 Italian_Jewish @ 10.298323
5 Ashkenazi @ 10.605638
6 Sephardic_Jewish @ 11.814766
7 Algerian_Jewish @ 12.030396
8 Cyprian @ 12.155164
9 Italian_Abruzzo @ 13.455439
10 Libyan_Jewish @ 13.917381
11 Tunisian_Jewish @ 14.366897
12 West_Sicilian @ 14.790186
13 Greek_Thessaly @ 15.333177
14 Greek @ 15.554745
15 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.268143
16 Syrian @ 17.621439
17 Turkish @ 18.232552
18 Samaritan @ 20.000631
19 Tuscan @ 20.136858
20 Lebanese_Christian @ 20.973055

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.489436

MDLP K23:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.74
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.27
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.72
4 Near_East 11.08
5 South_Central_Asian 7.99
6 North_African 5.40
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.18

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cretan_ @ 3.138570
2 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 4.847682
3 Romanian_Jew_ @ 5.592472
4 Sicilian_East_ @ 5.633819
5 Sicilian_West_ @ 6.006063
6 Ashkenazi_ @ 6.385566
7 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 6.438335
8 Italian_South_ @ 6.587805
9 Greek_Athens_ @ 7.017970
10 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 7.032281
11 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 7.298061
12 Greek_ @ 7.376967
13 French_Jew_ @ 7.644967
14 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.130709
15 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 8.145368
16 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.153198
17 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 8.277351
18 Maltese_ @ 8.586855
19 Greek_Islands_ @ 8.802263
20 Central_Greek_ @ 9.329828

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Northwest_ +50% Syrian_Jew_ @ 1.610309

#7:
Dodecad K12b:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.34
2 Atlantic_Med 22.09
3 Southwest_Asian 16.77
4 North_European 9.80
5 Gedrosia 8.20
6 Northwest_African 3.23

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 7.135999
2 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 8.332590
3 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 8.660741
4 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 10.004908
5 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 10.682605
6 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 11.635670
7 Cypriots_Behar @ 11.789373
8 Lebanese_Behar @ 14.422299
9 Greek_Dodecad @ 14.919506
10 Turkish_Dodecad @ 15.111314
11 Turks_Behar @ 17.429171
12 Syrians_Behar @ 17.668928
13 Druze_HGDP @ 17.840782
14 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 18.586897
15 Jordanians_Behar @ 19.189835
16 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 20.740993
17 Palestinian_HGDP @ 21.009481
18 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 21.943529
19 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 21.954473
20 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 22.471941

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze_HGDP +50% O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.851327

Eurogenes K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.44
2 West_Asian 19.62
3 West_Med 14.88
4 Atlantic 9.94
5 North_Sea 9.05
6 Red_Sea 6.53
7 Eastern_Euro 1.65
8 Baltic 1.52

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cyprian @ 8.867983
2 Italian_Jewish @ 9.455449
3 Sephardic_Jewish @ 9.509411
4 South_Italian @ 10.538556
5 Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.081727
6 Algerian_Jewish @ 11.493864
7 Lebanese_Muslim @ 11.667982
8 Libyan_Jewish @ 12.384988
9 Central_Greek @ 12.629702
10 East_Sicilian @ 12.730501
11 Ashkenazi @ 13.706054
12 Syrian @ 13.782309
13 Italian_Abruzzo @ 15.242478
14 Samaritan @ 16.090847
15 West_Sicilian @ 16.446417
16 Lebanese_Christian @ 16.548937
17 Turkish @ 16.930298
18 Jordanian @ 17.486563
19 Assyrian @ 17.576880
20 Lebanese_Druze @ 17.679707

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.452662

MDLP K23:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.94
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.38
3 Near_East 13.26
4 South_Central_Asian 9.93
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 6.82
6 North_African 5.95
7 Austronesian 1.50

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 4.746110
2 Cretan_ @ 5.010767
3 Greek_Islands_ @ 6.717550
4 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 7.453586
5 French_Jew_ @ 7.471053
6 Turk_Jew_ @ 7.918049
7 Syrian_Jew_ @ 7.930298
8 Italian_Jew_ @ 8.201649
9 Cypriot_ @ 8.313635
10 Sicilian_East_ @ 8.400331
11 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 9.376257
12 Italian_South_ @ 9.579372
13 Romanian_Jew_ @ 9.602420
14 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 9.734199
15 Sicilian_West_ @ 10.092789
16 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 10.107151
17 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 10.391072
18 Sicilian_Center_ @ 10.591148
19 Maltese_ @ 11.093596
20 Ashkenazi_ @ 11.159647

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Smyrna_ +50% Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.071349

#8:
Dodecad:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.52
2 Atlantic_Med 27.15
3 North_European 17.54
4 Southwest_Asian 10.25
5 Gedrosia 6.23
6 Northwest_African 1.51

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Dodecad @ 4.302144
2 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 6.892699
3 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 7.294949
4 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 7.464211
5 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 8.143746
6 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 9.160829
7 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 11.415168
8 Tuscan_HGDP @ 12.909380
9 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 13.845670
10 TSI30_Metspalu @ 14.535418
11 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 17.131109
12 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 19.388124
13 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 19.661917
14 Turkish_Dodecad @ 20.678171
15 Cypriots_Behar @ 20.862026
16 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 21.105108
17 Romanians_Behar @ 21.112181
18 North_Italian_HGDP @ 22.678684
19 Turks_Behar @ 23.561234
20 Lebanese_Behar @ 25.767845

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Dodecad +50% S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 3.242753

Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.48
2 West_Med 17.40
3 West_Asian 16.10
4 Atlantic 14.20
5 Baltic 10.19
6 North_Sea 6.16
7 Eastern_Euro 4.54
8 Red_Sea 2.80

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Greek @ 5.922134
2 South_Italian @ 7.063284
3 Greek @ 7.303118
4 East_Sicilian @ 7.539363
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.149076
6 Ashkenazi @ 9.506519
7 West_Sicilian @ 10.190989
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 11.368025
9 Sephardic_Jewish @ 12.632148
10 Italian_Jewish @ 12.701546
11 Algerian_Jewish @ 13.404724
12 Tuscan @ 14.949905
13 Tunisian_Jewish @ 16.706827
14 Bulgarian @ 17.029512
15 Cyprian @ 17.530693
16 Libyan_Jewish @ 19.659782
17 Romanian @ 20.375185
18 Turkish @ 20.489653
19 Lebanese_Muslim @ 21.512934
20 North_Italian @ 21.904427

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +50% South_Italian @ 4.293581

MDLP K23:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.28
2 European_Early_Farmers 19.70
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 14.56
4 Near_East 8.68
5 South_Central_Asian 6.26
6 North_African 5.14
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.16
8 South_Indian 1.88

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Athens_ @ 4.137287
2 Greek_ @ 4.166695
3 Romanian_Jew_ @ 4.614218
4 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.008045
5 Italian_South_ @ 5.358126
6 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 5.714618
7 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 5.733969
8 Central_Greek_ @ 5.937820
9 Cretan_ @ 5.960185
10 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 6.451985
11 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 7.285110
12 Sicilian_East_ @ 7.462960
13 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 7.481560
14 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 7.816198
15 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.101669
16 Sicilian_West_ @ 8.458406
17 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 8.621318
18 Azov_Greek_ @ 8.842134
19 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 9.101385
20 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 9.252671

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ +50% Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 2.139048

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Athens_ +25% Romanian_ +25% Syrian_Jew_ @ 1.585666

gültekin

08-22-2017, 07:42 AM

Even though they are cherrypicked Cretans, they are still very SW Asian shifted. Look at their SW Asian and NW_African admixture for God's sake,LOL

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.34
2 Atlantic_Med 22.09
3 Southwest_Asian 16.77
4 North_European 9.80
5 Gedrosia 8.20
6 Northwest_African 3.23

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.00
2 Atlantic_Med 21.93
3 Southwest_Asian 16.02
4 North_European 12.93
5 Gedrosia 6.19
6 Northwest_African 2.96

Dodecad K12b:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.82
2 Atlantic_Med 24.09
3 Southwest_Asian 13.97
4 North_European 12.90
5 Gedrosia 6.65
6 Northwest_African 2.32

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.45
2 Atlantic_Med 27.37
3 Southwest_Asian 13.24
4 North_European 12.17
5 Gedrosia 9.02
6 Northwest_African 2.13

They resemble Cypriots who in turn resemble Lebanese. Cypriots score 17% SW Asian admixture on average and Cretans score similar values. The only difference is that Cretans have more North European admix than Cypriots. You just proved my point, there is a genetic contiunity between East Med populations. Lebanese, Cypriots, Cretans, other islanders, south italians, ashkenazi jews and greeks.

Here is my dodecad k12b result for comparison
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.03
2 Atlantic_Med 15.30
3 North_European 14.57
4 Gedrosia 14.55
5 Southwest_Asian 9.89
6 Siberian 5.12
7 East_Asian 4.96
8 Southeast_Asian 1.75
9 South_Asian 1.74

gültekin

08-22-2017, 07:47 AM

They score more SW Asian admixture than Sicilians / South Italians. 17% SW Asian admixture in Cretans is close to Cypriot and Lebanese average.

gültekin

08-22-2017, 08:00 AM

This is a typical Cretan result, the Cretan member mongrel also scores 16% SW Asian admixture on various calculators.

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.34
2 Atlantic_Med 22.09
3 Southwest_Asian 16.77
4 North_European 9.80
5 Gedrosia 8.20
6 Northwest_African 3.23

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 7.135999
2 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 8.332590
3 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 8.660741
4 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 10.004908
5 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 10.682605
6 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 11.635670
7 Cypriots_Behar @ 11.789373
8 Lebanese_Behar @ 14.422299
9 Greek_Dodecad @ 14.919506
10 Turkish_Dodecad @ 15.111314
11 Turks_Behar @ 17.429171
12 Syrians_Behar @ 17.668928
13 Druze_HGDP @ 17.840782
14 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 18.586897
15 Jordanians_Behar @ 19.189835
16 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 20.740993
17 Palestinian_HGDP @ 21.009481
18 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 21.943529
19 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 21.954473
20 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 22.471941

Voskos

08-22-2017, 08:49 AM

http://i.hizliresim.com/EYl2l8.jpg

gültekin

08-22-2017, 10:20 AM

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FTDNA's myorigins has different algorithms, so keep posting that. Gedmatch results put an end to your miserable attemps.

Cretans have more SW Asian admixture, to the point that they almost resemble Lebanese.

Your puntdnal k13 results - Mongrel

1 SW_Europe 36.97
2 West_Asia 25.13
3 NE_Europe 16.81
4 SW_Asia 16.67
5 East_Africa 2.02
6 Oceania 1.53
7 SE_Asia 0.41
8 Americas 0.41
9 Siberia 0.06

My results - Gültekin

1 West_Asia 30.86
2 SW_Europe 24.65
3 NE_Europe 16.01
4 SW_Asia 11.15
5 NE_Asia 6.11
6 Siberia 5.05
7 South_Asia 3.02

Voskos

08-22-2017, 10:37 AM

gültekin

08-22-2017, 10:47 AM

Sw asian on gedmatch can be anything from basal eurasian to jewish , north african and arabic. As opposed to myorigins which is pure levantoarab, of which you scored 17%, more than any Cretan would ever score!

Besides you're so OWD that you edited your african percentage out of your puntdnaL k13!

Here's your full, unedited puntdnal :

1 West_Asia 30.86
2 SW_Europe 24.65
3 NE_Europe 16.01
4 SW_Asia 11.15
5 NE_Asia 6.11
6 Siberia 5.05
7 South_Asia 3.02
8 Americas 0.93
9 Oceania 0.85
10 East_Africa 0.61
11 South_Africa 0.48
12 SE_Asia 0.27

I did not edit anything you fucking idiot, I simply copy pasted from the page, when you click "oracle" the components below 1% disappear.

Here is a screenshot.
https://i.hizliresim.com/zB93Y4.png (https://hizliresim.com/zB93Y4)

Why is it so difficult for you to get over the fact that you have much more SW Asian admixture than me and Turks in general. Post any calculator you want and let's compare our results. According to FTDNA myorigins I also score 23% West and Central Europe, 3% Finland and 2% East Europe because FTDNA has completely different algorithms and did not have Turks as reference population in MyOrigins 1.0

Now post any, I mean any calculator results and let us compare our results. You can pick any calculator you want. Your people score 17% SW Asian admixture for God's sake! Not even Kurds from Southeast Anatolia score that much LOL You are Levantines, get over it! SW Asian on gedmatch calculators are always based on Bedouins.

Sikeliot

08-22-2017, 10:48 AM

They score more SW Asian admixture than Sicilians / South Italians. 17% SW Asian admixture in Cretans is close to Cypriot and Lebanese average.

They don't. There are southern Italians fulfilling that entire range. But Cretans have slightly higher North European of the two.

Sikeliot

08-22-2017, 10:50 AM

SW Asian for my sample averages to 12%. The 16% is an outlier and no one scored 17%. Stop lying.

gültekin

08-22-2017, 10:52 AM

They don't. There are southern Italians fulfilling that entire range. But Cretans have slightly higher North European of the two.

I haven't seen any South Italian scoring 17% SW Asian on dodecad k12b to be honest. Not even Kurds from Southeast Anatolia score that much, they usually score 14% or something.

Sikeliot

08-22-2017, 11:00 AM

I haven't seen any South Italian scoring 17% SW Asian on dodecad k12b to be honest. Not even Kurds from Southeast Anatolia score that much, they usually score 14% or something.

No Cretan scored 17% either. Anyway if you looked at their oracles you'd see they are not what you make them out to be. You are only doing this because someone on this forum pissed you off.

This is a Sicilian scoring the same 16% as that Cretan did:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.2
2 Atlantic_Med 24.77
3 Southwest_Asian 16.27
4 North_European 12.69
5 Gedrosia 7.12
6 Northwest_African 4.16
7 South_Asian 1.05
8 East_African 0.62
9 Sub_Saharan 0.12

gültekin

08-22-2017, 11:10 AM

No Cretan scored 17% either.

How good are your basic math skills?

Here is a Cretan, is his SW Asian admixture (16.77) closer to 16 or 17? Not to mention that you ignore their Northwest_African admixture as well.

1 Caucasus 39.34
2 Atlantic_Med 22.09
3 Southwest_Asian 16.77
4 North_European 9.80
5 Gedrosia 8.20
6 Northwest_African 3.23

Here is an introduction for you https://www.mathsisfun.com/rounding-numbers.html

Voskos

08-22-2017, 11:12 AM

The author of Myorigins calc has a PhD in Biology, and he assigned you 17% Levantoarab genes!

Get over it!

catgeorge

08-22-2017, 11:12 AM

How good are your basic math skills?

Here is a Cretan, is his SW Asian admixture (16.77) closer to 16 or 17? Not to mention that you ignore their Northwest_African admixture as well.

1 Caucasus 39.34
2 Atlantic_Med 22.09
3 Southwest_Asian 16.77
4 North_European 9.80
5 Gedrosia 8.20
6 Northwest_African 3.23

Here is an introduction for you https://www.mathsisfun.com/rounding-numbers.html

be quiet mongol and go and drink some horse urine and call it Dolmades.

gültekin

08-22-2017, 11:13 AM

By the way mongrel, in case you wonder, Southwest Asian component on Dodecad K12b peaks in Saudis. You can check the spreadsheet, it is almost pure Arabian component.

DarknessWin

08-22-2017, 11:18 AM

http://i.hizliresim.com/EYl2l8.jpg

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH , nice catch

gültekin

08-22-2017, 11:18 AM

The author of Myorigins calc has a PhD in Biology, and he assigned you 17% Levantoarab genes!

Get over it!

Cretans score even more SW Asian admixture than Kurds, get over it :laugh:

My gedmatch results are all over the forum, I have nothing to hide. I have less SW Asian admixture than all Greeks, on any calculator. Some Cretans have twice as much SW Asian admixture as mine LOL

You are so fucking pathetic that you can even accept a basic fact, you have more SW Asian admixture. You pathetic curly haired OWDers, why are so ashamed of your own people's DNA?

gültekin

08-22-2017, 11:20 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH , nice catch

Why don't you post your gedmatch results you E1b1b nigger, so that we can compare our SW Asian admixture? :laugh:

Queen B

08-22-2017, 11:20 AM

Who cares what a turk says?

gültekin

08-22-2017, 11:22 AM

My Levantine friends, you can stick these results up your ass:

My results
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.03
2 Atlantic_Med 15.30
3 North_European 14.57
4 Gedrosia 14.55
5 Southwest_Asian 9.89
6 Siberian 5.12
7 East_Asian 4.96
8 Southeast_Asian 1.75
9 South_Asian 1.74

vs

Cretan
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.34
2 Atlantic_Med 22.09
3 Southwest_Asian 16.77
4 North_European 9.80
5 Gedrosia 8.20
6 Northwest_African 3.23

DarknessWin

08-22-2017, 11:22 AM

Cretans score even more SW Asian admixture than Kurds, get over it :laugh:

My gedmatch results are all over the forum, I have nothing to hide. I have less SW Asian admixture than all Greeks, on any calculator. Some Cretans have twice as much SW Asian admixture as mine LOL

You are so fucking pathetic that you can even accept a basic fact, you have more SW Asian admixture. You pathetic curly haired OWDers, why are so ashamed of your own people's DNA?

Get over it Anatolian shit , or better go to say that in Cretans down there face to face.
They will feed you in pigs (mafian tactic) like their brothers in Sicily

gültekin

08-22-2017, 11:24 AM

Get over it Anatolian shit , or better go to say that in Cretans down there face to face.
They will feed you in pigs (mafian tactic) like their brothers in Sicily

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/732/499/406.jpg

catgeorge

08-22-2017, 11:26 AM

Why are all Turks so autistic?

DarknessWin

08-22-2017, 01:58 PM

Why don't you post your gedmatch results you E1b1b nigger, so that we can compare our SW Asian admixture? :laugh:

First of all E1b1b is not nigger but its variety EV13 is pure Med and Balkan,
Second i am I2 and not E1b1b,
Third haplo have nothing to do with phenotype.
4th i am Macedonian from North Greece and we have almost 0% SW asian here

A turk speaking about SW asian and Niggers?? I this a joke??
Half of your population is like this rambo man you posted in another thread you gypsies

You know in Balkans gypsies called Turks

DarknessWin

08-22-2017, 02:01 PM

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/732/499/406.jpg

Give me your facebook you fucking bastard, give it to me and i promise that i will fuck you and your mother together,
i wait for pm.
Short gypsies from Turkey like you can fight only 5 vs 1 like you do in Germany

gültekin

08-22-2017, 02:06 PM

First of all E1b1b is not nigger but its variety EV13 is pure Med and Balkan,
Second i am I2 and not E1b1b,
Third haplo have nothing to do with phenotype.
4th i am Macedonian from North Greece and we have almost 0% SW asian here

A turk speaking about SW asian and Niggers?? I this a joke??
Half of your population is like this rambo man you posted in another thread you gypsies

You know in Balkans gypsies called Turks

E1b1b1 comes from Northeast Africa, E1b1bs in Greece did not grow out of the ground LOL. It was farmers from Near East who brought it to Europe, and those Near Eastern farmers were originally from Northeast Africa. See Natufian culture in ancient Levant, they were exclusively E1b1b carriers. Nigger, we have population averages in the spreadsheet. Go check and see who has more North African admixture. Cretans even have 17% LOL. That's even beyond Kurdish average.

gültekin

08-22-2017, 02:09 PM

Who cares what a turk says?

Give me your facebook you fucking bastard, give it to me and i promise that i will fuck you and your mother together,
i wait for pm.
Short gypsies from Turkey like you can fight only 5 vs 1 like you do in Germany

Hahaha, you can't even show your face you pathetic cunt. Stop chimping out, you can't even beat your own keyboard you hot headed piece of shit. :laugh:

Voskos

08-22-2017, 02:14 PM

DarknessWin

08-22-2017, 02:26 PM

E1b1b1 comes from Northeast Africa, E1b1bs in Greece did not grow out of the ground LOL. It was farmers from Near East who brought it to Europe, and those Near Eastern farmers were originally from Northeast Africa. See Natufian culture in ancient Levant, they were exclusively E1b1b carriers. Nigger, we have population averages in the spreadsheet. Go check and see who has more North African admixture. Cretans even have 17% LOL. That's even beyond Kurdish average.

And so what idiot?? All haplo came out from Africa back in the day.
E1b1b is the last major migration and people that time were not niggers as you say because
Africa was like today Europe.

Europe was like North Pole that time.
Nigger phenotype created after the high temperature rise in Africa.
Haplo mean nothing at all but again E1b1b was the first population with white skin
from agriculture diet and EV13 which exist in Greece and Balkans created 100% in Balkans

DarknessWin

08-22-2017, 02:28 PM

Hahaha, you can't even show your face you pathetic cunt. Stop chimping out, you can't even beat your own keyboard you hot headed piece of shit. :laugh:

Everyone here know my facebook account and my face,
already albos refuced to meet me and chicken out and albos are brave people actually while turks are fucking chickens noone ever meet me.

I cant afraid from a short turk, you pussies are like 170 cm at max

Dorian

08-22-2017, 02:30 PM

big-nosed turkish faggotry pride!!!we wuz great.
http://nikosxeiladakis.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Kemal-Ataturk-Gay.jpg
http://media.galaxant.com/000/192/044/desktop-1433780553.jpg