Kosovar 23andme

[Lollipop]

Going back 1500 years, that's easely, by my calculations, over 60% non-european.Why do albanians score caucasus, and alot of it, despite their neighbors scoring none?
http://i.imgur.com/AyBodXO.png

Source:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=228&v=sp7SGRnqJZA

[Lollipop]

From comment section other albanian :


My dad's family is originally from northern Albania, and my mom's family is from Dibra, Macedonia (of Albanian origin). My DNA is 74% Italy/Greece, 11% Eastern Europe, 7% Caucasus (most of it is probably Turkish from the Ottoman invasion), 4% British, 3% Western Europe, and 1% Scandinavian.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JQdXlJf14lk/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAC4/7HgKHxSs-6g/photo.jpg

[Böri]

When Circassians were deported by Russians from what's today more or less Krasnodar Krai, not all of them took refuge in Asia Minor or MENA. Some were sent as far as Kosovo.
Might also be Daghestani etc.

A Turcoman must have low Siberian, that's true.

[Lollipop]

We don't score much CHG , actually we are the most western shifted balkanites and shift towards tuscans and iberians. I'm so confused where this 'Turk' and Caucasus thing came from. Even compared to Greek members we shift towards north Italy. Btw if she had ottoman ancestry she would score East Asian on her test. Ftdna is generally the worst!

The girl has clear al-arnaut ancestry from Azerbaijan/Caucasus, the 9% non-white and 3% caucasus are a fact.3% caucasus today means that one of her ancestor had 96% chg just 90 years ago(if we take the average albanain generation as ~15 years).Simple math, did you skip the class?

[Peterski]

It is neither 23andMe nor FTDNA, but AncestryDNA.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

First notice 'thousands years old' above (reference from ancient source), secondly she didn't do 23andme but was tested in ancestryDNA - big difference in genetic outlook, thirdly problem with you is you read genetics too literally for obvious mediocre agenda which basically summarize your whole existence here, and forth but not the least you can fuck off now.

[Lollipop]

It is neither 23andMe nor FTDNA, but AncestryDNA.

I knew it already, you ruined my trap.Just wanted to catch the albos who try to call her test fake, because it's ftdna.
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[Lollipop]

First notice 'thousands years old' above (reference from ancient source), secondly she didn't do 23andme but was tested in ancestryDNA - big difference in genetic outlook, thirdly problem with you is you read genetics too literally for obvious mediocre agenda which basically summarize your whole existence here, and forth but not the least you can fuck off now.

9% non-white and 3% CHG is 9% non-white and 3% CHG.
I originally said it's ancestry dna, but Era modified the title.Just you wait Era, I'll pay you back one day.

[Lollipop]

Ancestry DNA and ft DNA are generally bad. She should have done 23andme imo.
@lollipop even if we had Caucasian DNA we wouldn't be ashamed but we don't.

If she would have done 23andme you would have said 23andme is bad and that she should have done ancestry or ftdna.There is no winning with you people.

[Peterski]

Ancestry DNA and ft DNA are generally bad. She should have done 23andme imo.

I don't think they are bad. 23andMe is overrated, it is neither better nor worse IMO.

[Peterski]

Why do albanians score caucasus, and alot of it, despite their neighbors scoring none?

I think that Romanians also score it.

And nearly all Romanians score some East Asian or Central Asian.

[Lollipop]

I think that Romanians also score it.

And nearly all Romanians score some East Asian or Central Asian.

Nah , romanians don't,maybe in Moldova, Bessarabia region or parts of Dobruja, regions hsitorically settled by turks.I've never seen 23andme with romanians or yugoslavs having caucasus.This is strictly albanian problem.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

9% non-white and 3% CHG is 9% non-white and 3% CHG.
I originally said it's ancestry dna, but Era modified the title.Just you wait Era, I'll pay you back one day.

You are really awful on trolling even more on reading DNA companies results properly, if you were more attentive you'd know that thousand years ago reference is of ancient source which gives about every Balkanite a similar results due neolithic link, and it's not solely CHG but also mideast.

[Lollipop]

You are really awful on trolling even more on reading DNA companies results properly, if you were more attentive you'd know that thousand years ago reference is of ancient source which gives about every Balkanite a similar results due neolithic link, and it's not solely CHG but also mideast.

I'll take ancestry dna, or any other dna company words, over yours, any day.Most non-albanian balkanites score 99-100% on ancestry,ftdna or 23andme.WHy are you so afraid that the average kosovar scores plenty caucasus and non-white?Is it because it does not fit with your revisionist agenda?

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Nah , romanians don't,maybe in Moldova, Bessarabia region or parts of Dobruja, regions hsitorically settled by turks.I've never seen 23andme with romanians or yugoslavs having caucasus.This is strictly albanian problem.

If I was you I won't be talking in such comfortable position, you would score too. ;)

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I'll take ancestry dna, or any other dna company words, over yours, any day.Most non-albanian balkanites score 99-100% on ancestry,ftdna or 23andme.WHy are you so afraid that the average kosovar scores plenty caucasus and non-white?Is it because it does not fit with your revisionist agenda?

How about we make a truce, I post my result while you post yours, if I score a trace of non-european then I will give you some right, but I want your results too not some fake shit you post in profile.

All Albanians I've seen score 99.9%-100% European in 23andme which dates back 200-300 years, in ftdna most do score 100% European (southeast Europe) which dates back two thousand years, ancestryDNA has little samples to conclude what most score but again what Albanians might score it's guarantee the neighbors will score the same, it is ridiculous to give an conclusion from a sole individual tested in ancestryDNA, now enough about Albanians, if we speak about Romanians you guys show always really weird results in 23andme which is recent, scoring few East Asian seem to be a rule for you.....Any clue where that might come from in you?

[Lollipop]

If I was you I won't be talking in such comfortable position, you would score too. ;)

No, I don't live in a region settled by turks.We should focus on the things that we know for sure, like for example, plenty of albanians score anything between 3 to 10% caucasus and alot of non-white like for example I know some member here who scores Hindu_Kush 5.78%.Before ftdna update, you were lucky to be 70% white.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Is it because it does not fit with your revisionist agenda?

Muh Caucasus Albania homeland lmao.......You're really a ridiculous little troll. :D

[Lollipop]

How about we make a truce, I post my result while you post yours, if I score a trace of non-european then I will give you some right, but I want your results too not some fake shit you post in profile.

All Albanians I've seen score 99.9%-100% European in 23andme which dates back 200-300 years, in ftdna most do score 100% European (southeast Europe) which dates back two thousand years, ancestryDNA has little samples to conclude what most score but again what Albanians might score it's guarantee the neighbors will score the same, it is ridiculous to give an conclusion from a sole individual tested in ancestryDNA, now enough about Albanians, if we speak about Romanians you guys show always really weird results in 23andme which is recent, scoring few East Asian seem to be a rule for you.....Any clue where that might come from in you?

23andme is irrelevant.On ftdna albanians score ~70% white.I trust the ftdna before the update,after the update they just named some non-white groups as white,because albanians and owd turks complained.

[Lollipop]

Muh Caucasus Albania homeland lmao.......You're really a ridiculous little troll. :D

I did not draw any conclusion.You've said it, so who's the troll?

[Laberia]

It is neither 23andMe nor FTDNA, but AncestryDNA.

Litvin, he is Deymark. And this idiot posted this video at Eupedia. He is an idiot without life.

[Laberia]

I did not draw any conclusion.You've said it, so who's the troll?

What conclusions can draw a gypsy like you? You are a idiot. Can a idiot like you draw conclusions? No.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

No, I don't live in a region settled by turks.We should focus on the things that we know for sure, like for example, plenty of albanians score anything between 3 to 10% caucasus and alot of non-white like for example I know some member here who scores Hindu_Kush 5.78%.Before ftdna update, you were lucky to be 70% white.

You have no clue what you're talking about, ask Scots why they score high in Hindu-Kush (or any other European), now don't lower the debate into your mediocrity, Romanians score Caucasus whether CHG or plainly Asia minor in ftdna but you score something Albanians never score in 23andme, East Asian and Central Asian....Perhaps I violated your sole living brain cell earlier when I asked why Romanians score always a trace of East Asian, I shouldn't be doing that because you ain't really able to give any answers outside of desperate trolling agenda.

[Wrong]

Mentally ill troll Deymark is at it again.

[Lollipop]

You have no clue what you're talking about, ask Scots why they score high in Hindu-Kush (or any other European), now don't lower the debate into your mediocrity, Romanians score Caucasus whether CHG or plainly Asia minor in ftdna but you score something Albanians never score in 23andme, East Asian and Central Asian....Perhaps I violated your sole living brain cell earlier when I asked why Romanians score always a trace of East Asian, I shouldn't be doing that because you ain't really able to give any answers outside of desperate trolling agenda.

You are Near_Eastern 46.78% and Hindu_Kush 5.78%.It does not take a genius to realise that unless I'm a negro from Central Africa, I will score alot more european results.

[Laberia]

No, I don't live in a region settled by turks.We should focus on the things that we know for sure, like for example, plenty of albanians score anything between 3 to 10% caucasus and alot of non-white like for example I know some member here who scores Hindu_Kush 5.78%.Before ftdna update, you were lucky to be 70% white.

Right, we should focus on things that we know for sure:
Along with his brother Radu, Vlad the Impaler was raped at Adrianople (present-day Edirne), at the court of sultan Murad II, as punishment for disobeying the empire. In turn, Vlad raped Ottoman prisoners, being accused by church of "foul sodomy".
The sobriquet of Radu, Vlad the Impaler's brother (the Handsome, the Beautiful), results from effeminate traits and behavior of the prince. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history_in_Romania)
If those filthy things happened with your national hero and the feudal elite of your country, what happened with the poor rumun peasant?

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I did not draw any conclusion.You've said it, so who's the troll?

Lol, I said that because you were predictable with your intend, so I kept joking, so the joke is on you.

[Wrong]

You are Near_Eastern 46.78% and Hindu_Kush 5.78%.It does not take a genius to realise that unless I'm a negro from Central Africa, I will score alot more european results.
Scottish people score 7%+ Hindu_Kush. It's simply a Steppe-component.

[Kelmendasi]

@Deymark/Lollipop: legit question, are you ok mentally? I ask because the only thing that goes through your mind are Albanians and how to troll them which shows an obsession. You also act like forums are your life as you create sock puppets when you get banned. Overall your sad and just wet as we in London would say

[Laberia]

Deymark, you can now draw some conclusions, because we did it.

[Lollipop]

People , focus on the girl from OP results.Anything else is off-topic, and will be deleted.

[Laberia]

People , focus on the girl from OP results.Anything else is off-topic, and will be deleted.

Deymark, you have 5 minutes to tell us what happened to the rumun peasantry during the Ottoman Empire. You will be banned if you don't answer in five minutes.

[Kelmendasi]

People , focus on the girl from OP results.Anything else is off-topic, and will be deleted.
But yet you post off-topic replies on other people's threads. You're an obsessed kid man who has several complexes and insecurities, the prediction of your Ydna is one of them

[The Illyrian Warrior]

You are Near_Eastern 46.78% and Hindu_Kush 5.78%.It does not take a genius to realise that unless I'm a negro from Central Africa, I will score alot more european results.

Desperation leads to fact distortion, like this post above.

'I will score'?! So you haven't been tested (like I assumed), this also means you ain't really I2a Cro-Magnon? You should write that off now because you are looking really ridiculous with that, you're like second Rethel.

[Kelmendasi]

Desperation leads to fact distortion, like this post above.

'I will score'?! So you haven't been tested (like I assumed), this also means you ain't really I2a Cro-Magnon? You should write that off now because you are looking really ridiculous with that, you're like second Rethel.
Of course he isn't I2a. He says he is because he wants to act like he descends from the natives lol. He is probably R1a

[Lollipop]

Desperation leads to fact distortion, like this post above.

'I will score'?! So you haven't been tested (like I assumed), this also means you ain't really I2a Cro-Magnon? You should write that off now because you are looking really ridiculous with that, you're like second Rethel.

Never implied that,the future tense has tens of uses, logic is not your strong point.You and your buddies are just trying to shitpost to derail my thread.

[Kelmendasi]

Never implied that,the future tense has tens of uses, logic is not your strong point.You and your buddies are just trying to shitpost to derail my thread.
Bitch boy just accept that you haven't tested because nobody is buying what you say. You are sad man you really are, carry on claiming to be of Gothic descent which just shows how sad you are

[Lollipop]

Bitch boy just accept that you haven't tested because nobody is buying what you say. You are sad man you really are, carry on claiming to be of Gothic descent which just shows how sad you are

The only one insecure about his ydna here , is you, since you're hiding that you'reJ1.Why do you hate your ancestors?They must have sold alot of goats to buy tickets to Europe.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Never implied that,the future tense has tens of uses, logic is not your strong point.You and your buddies are just trying to shitpost to derail my thread.

Troll threads are nothing more than gathering place where you literally shit upon, esp. when OP is you Deymark.

[Kelmendasi]

The only one insecure about his ydna here , is you, since you're hiding that you'reJ1.Why do you hate your ancestors?They must have sold alot of goats to buy tickets to Europe.
Lol at least I don't fake my haplogroup unlike you xD. I don't show my Mtdna either which is a native Balkan one stupid speng. You're R1a just deal with the fact that your ancestors invaded into Europe. Just carry on saying " MUH GOTH ANCEZEZTORZ, I IZ I2A2 I SWEARZ"

[Pahli]

Lol, Albanians can score up to almost 30% CHG without having any Turkish admixture. Its only if they have significant Siberian / East Asian admixture that you can consider them mixed with Turks, and frankly almost all Albanian results I've seen had barely if any Asian.

[Kelmendasi]

Nah , romanians don't,maybe in Moldova, Bessarabia region or parts of Dobruja, regions hsitorically settled by turks.I've never seen 23andme with romanians or yugoslavs having caucasus.This is strictly albanian problem.
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?6722-Romanian-23andme

[Freeroostah]

We don't score much CHG , actually we are the most western shifted balkanites and shift towards tuscans and iberians. I'm so confused where this 'Turk' and Caucasus thing came from. Even compared to Greek members we shift towards north Italy. Btw if she had ottoman ancestry she would score East Asian on her test. Ftdna is generally the worst!


I just paid $270 for the Y67 test, please dont say that :(

[Lollipop]

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?6722-Romanian-23andme

It's called statistical noise.Meanwhile, the 9% non-white and 3% caucasus in OP is not.

[Kelmendasi]

It's called statistical noise.Meanwhile, the 9% non-white and 3% caucasus in OP is not.
Of course when it comes to Romanians it is but for Albos it isn't. Anyways OP post is from ancestryDNA meaning that it is irrelevant since that isn't 23andme. Anyways its noise when it's below 0.5% or something like that not over 0.5%

[Lollipop]

Of course when it comes to Romanians it is but for Albos it isn't. Anyways OP post is from ancestryDNA meaning that it is irrelevant since that isn't 23andme. Anyways its noise when it's below 0.5% or something like that not over 0.5%

Anything under 1% is defined as noise.23andme tests only a few hundred years.Ancestry is a reputable dna testing company, your words have no value.Now, tell me again, why are you so ashamed of your ydna?Its not like its associated with arabs, or anything, right?

[Dema]

This guy talks too much about genetics for someone who has no balls to test himself.

[Profileid]

Where are you getting the 60% non-Euro figure? The most possible is 12%.

Also this kind of thing isn't unheard of in southern Euros. Here are the results of an American who is 1/4 Portuguese and 3/4 Italian.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/290627638731603978/349008603610349569/dna.JPG

[Kriptc06]

I just paid $270 for the Y67 test, please dont say that :(

ftdna is shitty with autossomal. Mtdna and Ydna wise its the best out there, dont worry :thumb001:

[Kelmendasi]

Anything under 1% is defined as noise.23andme tests only a few hundred years.Ancestry is a reputable dna testing company, your words have no value.Now, tell me again, why are you so ashamed of your ydna?Its not like its associated with arabs, or anything, right?
Damn how haven't you had a break yet, you're on here 24/7 ffs xD. lol at you saying that my words are no value since it's funny that a troll like you who has no other hobbies apart from trolling on forums thinks that his words are of any value xD. As I said before you're the one ashamed of your haplogroup since you're the one who fakes his own Ydna and doesn't accept that his actual haplo is R1a. My clade isn't FGC11 which is the Arab one, I don't show my Mtdna either which is native Balkan. I saw how much you like to talk about height on the other thread so how tall are you, 5ft7? Lol I have yet to meet a Slav or Romanian who is taller than me. Also would like to add, seems like Romanians have disowned judging by the fact that they all hate you and the fact that you're basically a cucks by the Serbs here and give them free blowjobs xD.

[Lollipop]

Damn how haven't you had a break yet, you're on here 24/7 ffs xD. lol at you saying that my words are no value since it's funny that a troll like you who has no other hobbies apart from trolling on forums thinks that his words are of any value xD. As I said before you're the one ashamed of your haplogroup since you're the one who fakes his own Ydna and doesn't accept that his actual haplo is R1a. My clade isn't FGC11 which is the Arab one, I don't show my Mtdna either which is native Balkan. I saw how much you like to talk about height on the other thread so how tall are you, 5ft7? Lol I have yet to meet a Slav or Romanian who is taller than me. Also would like to add, seems like Romanians have disowned judging by the fact that they all hate you and the fact that you're basically a cucks by the Serbs here and give them free blowjobs xD.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/99/41/2d99412c1c7e9ede956afaf01ccbc327.jpg

[Dibran]

I'll take ancestry dna, or any other dna company words, over yours, any day.Most non-albanian balkanites score 99-100% on ancestry,ftdna or 23andme.WHy are you so afraid that the average kosovar scores plenty caucasus and non-white?Is it because it does not fit with your revisionist agenda?

As has already been communicated to your mentally deficient self, none of these components are literal but referential. Much like percentages in each category dictate averages of countries. Additionally, you're full of shit. Every Albanian I have seen so far( including myself) gets 100 percent Southeast Europe on their Ftdna tests if not with in the 95 percentile.

You're just a typical Shki supporter. Anyone with half a brain knows you're full of shit and have les than amateur understanding of genetics. Now fuck off.

[Kelmendasi]

https://i.giphy.com/media/Hwq45iwTIUBGw/giphy.webp
Knew you would have no other come back since I know how slow you are xD, all I have to say to you is go out and enjoy the outside world man and stop staying on forums for 24 hours it's turned you into a degenerate man I doubt you have even been with a girl judging by how you act, if you want to come and meet up man to man and talk, fight or whatever you still have the address I sent you a while back when I wanted to fight you but you pussied out but I doubt you would meet up imo your probably a socially awkward person who can only talk out in forums

[Lollipop]

Knew you would have no other come back since I know how slow you are xD, all I have to say to you is go out and enjoy the outside world man and stop staying on forums for 24 hours it's turned you into a degenerate man I doubt you have even been with a girl judging by how you act, if you want to come and meet up man to man and talk, fight or whatever you still have the address I sent you a while back when I wanted to fight you but you pussied out but I doubt you would meet up imo your probably a socially awkward person who can only talk out in forums

Calm down gypsy, that's my standard reply to estrogenic butthurt long posts.Like I am gonna fight with all the kids that had their internet virginity taken by me.This ain't CoD, or other shit you play while waiting for the UK migrant welfare.

[Lollipop]

As has already been communicated to your mentally deficient self, none of these components are literal but referential. Much like percentages in each category dictate averages of countries. Additionally, you're full of shit. Every Albanian I have seen so far( including myself) gets 100 percent Southeast Europe on their Ftdna tests if not with in the 95 percentile.

You're just a typical Shki supporter. Anyone with half a brain knows you're full of shit and have les than amateur understanding of genetics. Now fuck off.

I know enough genetics to figure out that R-Z283 correlates with slavic language,you're some albanised slav , trying to look good among albanians, so you get their moral approval.The girl scores 9-11% nonwhite, so they found genes in her that belonged to the reference ,as you say , non white person.Before albos and other MENA owd complained to ftdna to include some certain MENA admixture as Balkan, most of you were lucky to score 70% european.


http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-when-the-debate-is-lost-slander-becomes-the-tool-of-the-loser-socrates-67-31-29.jpg

[Kelmendasi]

Calm down gypsy, that's my standard reply to estrogenic butthurt long posts.Like I am gonna fight with all the kids that had their internet virginity taken by me.This ain't CoD, or other shit you play while waiting for the UK migrant welfare.
Hahahaha "estrogenic" wanna compare who has a deeper voice or our digit ratio? You're the one who gets emotional and starts swearing and having tantrums now that's estrogenic. I don't have a console m8. But I challenged you though the others didn't. Don't call others kids, I have seen what you look like and you don't look like an adult but a teen so stfu. At least I have lost my virginity irl unlike you xD

[Kelmendasi]

I know enough genetics to figure out that R-Z283 correlates with slavic language,you're some albanised slav , trying to look good among albanians, so you get their moral approval.The girl scores 9-11% nonwhite, so they found genes in her that belonged to the reference ,as you say , non white person.Before albos and other MENA owd complained to ftdna to include some certain MENA admixture as Balkan, most of you were lucky to score 70% european.


http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-when-the-debate-is-lost-slander-becomes-the-tool-of-the-loser-socrates-67-31-29.jpg
Take a genetic test then we will have respect for you because then we will know that you're not all talk. Don't use that image you hypocrite, you swear at everyone who disagrees with you

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I know enough genetics to figure out that R-Z283 correlates with slavic language,you're some albanised slav , trying to look good among albanians, so you get their moral approval.The girl scores 9-11% nonwhite, so they found genes in her that belonged to the reference ,as you say , non white person.Before albos and other MENA owd complained to ftdna to include some certain MENA admixture as Balkan, most of you were lucky to score 70% european.


http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-when-the-debate-is-lost-slander-becomes-the-tool-of-the-loser-socrates-67-31-29.jpg

Lmao, the biggest irony is when biggest slanderous ignorant person stands behind this meme, you have no idea how ridiculously stupid entire post is. :D

[MercifulServant]

She didn't even score that much