Polish similarity to ancient samples

[Peterski]

I'm Polish and here are my most similar aDNA samples from different eras:

A) My 8 genetically closest ancient samples from period ca. 1000-3000 years ago:

Sample - genetic distance (K36)

1) Early Medieval Slavic RISE569 (http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/05/two-early-slavs-from-bohemia.html) - 21.26876
2) Iron Age Wielbark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wielbark_culture) Kowalewko55 - 21.94205
3) Late Bronze Age Denmark RISE276 - 21.99232
4) Iron Age Wielbark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wielbark_culture) Kowalewko45 - 22.60456
5) Late Bronze Age Hungary BR2 - 23.60180
6) Iron Age Sarmatian I0575 - 23.70351
7) Iron Age Sweden RISE174 - 24.22627
8) Iron Age Hungary IR1 - 25.08156

B) My 8 genetically closest ancient samples from period ca. 3000-2000 years ago:

Sample - genetic distance (K36)

1) Iron Age Wielbark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wielbark_culture) Kowalewko55 - 21.94205
2) Late Bronze Age Denmark RISE276 - 21.99232
3) Iron Age Wielbark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wielbark_culture) Kowalewko45 - 22.60456
4) Late Bronze Age Hungary BR2 - 23.60180
5) Iron Age Sarmatian I0575 - 23.70351
6) Iron Age Sweden RISE174 - 24.22627
7) Iron Age Hungary IR1 - 25.08156
8) Roman Era Gladiator 3DRIF16 - 26.60877

C) My 8 genetically closest ancient samples from period ca. 5000-3000 years ago:

Sample - genetic distance (K36)

1) Bronze Age Hungary RISE479 - 13.94352
2) Bronze Age Poland PLN17 - 16.19202
3) Bronze Age Hungary BR1 - 17.58834
4) Sintashta Culture RISE395 - 19.19322
5) Srubnaya Culture I0232 - 19.49025
6) Andronovo Culture RISE500 - 20.73354
7) Andronovo Culture RISE505 - 21.67694
8) Corded Ware Estonia MA971 - 22.42342

D) My 8 genetically closest ancient samples from period ca. 7000-5000 years ago:

Sample - genetic distance (K36)

1) Stalingrad Early Bronze Age RISE555 - 19.64971
2) Dnieper-Donets Culture Vovnigi2 - 24.36965
3) Khvalynsk Culture I0122 - 24.44586
4) Poltavka Culture I0432 - 25.22529
5) Yamnaya Culture RISE548 - 26.84784
6) Afanasievo Culture RISE509 - 27.21310
7) Yamnaya Culture I0439 - 28.31140
8) Yamnaya Culture I0438 - 29.62368

[Peterski]

Now, when it comes to mixed modes:

A) Ca. 1000-3000 years ago (with Early Medieval samples):

[1] "distance%=6.1784 / distance=0.061784"

Slavic RISE569 - 23.70 %
Sudovia RISE598 - 21.10 %
Slavic Markowice7 - 16.40 %
Slavic Niemcza34 - 16.25 %
Wielbark Kowalewko55 - 9.65 %
Sarmatian I0574 - 8.75 %
Hungary BR2 - 3.20 %
Wielbark Kowalewko22 - 0.55 %
Armenia RISE412 - 0.30 %
Mycenaean I9041 - 0.10 %

B) Ca. 3000-2000 years ago (without Medieval samples):

[1] "distance%=7.5255 / distance=0.075255"

Sudovia RISE598 - 35.10 %
Hungary BR2 - 21.20 %
Hungary IR1 - 15.80 %
Mezhovskaya RISE523 - 12.95 %
Wielbark Kowalewko55 - 11.65 %
Wielbark Maslomecz5 - 2.65 %
Wielbark Kowalewko22 - 0.30 %
Mycenaean I9006 - 0.35 %

C) Ca. 5000-3000 years ago:

[1] "distance%=7.012 / distance=0.07012"

Sudovia RISE598 - 33.35 %
Hungary BR2 - 25.75 %
Sintashta RISE395 - 11.10 %
Poland Unetice RISE431 - 10.10 %
Germany Unetice I0115 - 7.30 %
Latvia Corded Ware Zvej28 - 5.00 %
Czechia Bell Beaker RISE567 - 2.70 %
Hungary RISE371 - 2.30 %
Armenia RISE416 - 1.65 %
Okunevo RISE516 - 0.65 %
Anatolia Kumtepe4 - 0.10 %

D) Ca. 7000-5000 years ago:

[1] "distance%=13.5243 / distance=0.135243"

Stalingrad RISE555 - 23.70 %
Poltavka Culture I0432 - 21.10 %
Neolithic Sweden Gokhem5 - 19.30 %
Comb Ceramic Estonia MA974 - 15.15 %
Yamnaya Culture I0439 - 9.80 %
Latvia Hunter-Gatherer HG1 - 7.00 %
Latvia Hunter-Gatherer HG3 - 3.95 %

[Peterski]

D) My 8 genetically closest ancient samples from period ca. 7000-5000 years ago:

Sample - genetic distance (K36)

1) Stalingrad Early Bronze Age RISE555 - 19.64971
(...)
Now, when it comes to mixed modes:

D) Ca. 7000-5000 years ago:

[1] "distance%=13.5243 / distance=0.135243"

Stalingrad RISE555 - 23.70 %
(...)

My ancestors were there: :laugh:

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/copperbronzeagedna.shtml

http://i.imgur.com/0jO410k.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiusUoH6nlE

[Peterski]

Sarmatian I0574 - 8.75 %

^^^
I get Sarmatian Pokrovka I0574, but some Poles get Scythian Ismailovo Is2 - these samples are similar, so interchangeable. Mezhovskaya (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezhovskaya_culture) culture samples are also good fits for this Late Steppe ancestry.

[Karol Klačansky]

so you end up being about 87% medieval Polish and Slavic? seems like it should be accurate for a pole

[Peterski]

so you end up being about 87% medieval Polish and Slavic? seems like it should be accurate for a pole

Yeah it seems so.

I get 75% to 50% East European on various tests (depending on what algorithm they use), but those Medieval Slavs were not 100% East European (and most likely even Proto-Slavs weren't).

RISE569 (Early Medieval Slavic) in DNA.Land:

http://i.imgur.com/yxqTtx7.png

For comparison here is me in DNA.Land:

https://i.imgur.com/vbmbKgw.png

And here RISE598 (Late Bronze Age Sudovia):

http://i.imgur.com/8EEA5lK.png

RISE598 is from Turlojiske, Lithuania/Poland border:

https://s21.postimg.org/hwa9s58fb/Turlojiske.png

But RISE598 was not Slavic - he was Baltic.

[Rethel]

For comparison here is me in DNA.Land:

Half-Shvab :laugh:


But RISE598 was not Slavic - he was Baltic.

Still you don't see how sensless it is?

100% slavic Balt? :picard2:

[Karol Klačansky]

Half-Shvab [emoji23]



Still you don't see how sensless it is?

100% slavic Balt? :picard2:The north Slavic component contains Lithuania on DNA land. So it doesn't just stand for Slavic.

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