Eurogenes K13 PCA

[MysteriousWays]

Please submit your Eurogenes K13 admixture proportions. I may not get be able to get to them for another day or so, but if you post, I promise to get to them as soon as I can. Thanks. I will be making a Eurogenes K13 set of PCA plots.

[Dibran]

Thank you!!

Me:

23andme:

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 27.15
2 East_Med 24.54
3 North_Atlantic 19.43
4 Baltic 16.81
5 West_Asian 10.55
6 Red_Sea 1.52


LivingDNA:

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 27.14
2 East_Med 26.18
3 North_Atlantic 17.72
4 Baltic 16.7
5 West_Asian 11.55
6 Red_Sea 0.71


father:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.91
2 West_Med 25.64
3 North_Atlantic 17.71
4 Baltic 16.89
5 West_Asian 10.18
6 Red_Sea 1.6
7 Amerindian 0.63
8 Siberian 0.21
9 Northeast_African 0.12
10 Oceanian 0.06
11 East_Asian 0.05

[Principe Azzurro]

My Results

Population
North_Atlantic 21.40
Baltic 7.37
West_Med 23.34
West_Asian 9.30
East_Med 31.41
Red_Sea 5.18
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.48
Sub-Saharan 0.52

[RN97]

Population
North_Atlantic 38.70
Baltic 21.89
West_Med 14.90
West_Asian 7.60
East_Med 12.86
Red_Sea 0.06
South_Asian 2.15
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.24
Amerindian 0.20
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.39

[Kelmendasi]

Thanks
Population
North_Atlantic 18.38
Baltic 20.62
West_Med 24.43
West_Asian 8.43
East_Med 24.38
Red_Sea 3.54
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.09
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.15
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan

[Geni]

1 East_Med 26.22
2 North_Atlantic 23.31
3 West_Med 21.33
4 Baltic 13.52
5 West_Asian 11.99
6 Red_Sea 2.26

[Coolguy1]

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.04
2 West_Med 18.12
3 Baltic 17.79
4 North_Atlantic 17.66
5 West_Asian 14.32
6 Red_Sea 3.22
7 Amerindian 0.53
8 South_Asian 0.53
9 Siberian 0.41
10 East_Asian 0.37

Thanks

[Graham]

<tbody>
Population



North_Atlantic
54.84


Baltic
23.71


West_Med
10.83


West_Asian
4.57


East_Med
3.57


Red_Sea
-


South_Asian
0.21


East_Asian
0.35


Siberian
0.10


Amerindian
0.17


Oceanian
1.29


Northeast_African
0.31


Sub-Saharan
0.05

</tbody>

[Alessio]

Alessio

Population
North_Atlantic 37.15
Baltic 12.73
West_Med 18.32
West_Asian 11.57
East_Med 16.54
Red_Sea 2.50
Siberian 0.86
Amerindian 0.22
Northeast_African 0.11

North_Dutch (mom)

Population
North_Atlantic 54.04
Baltic 24.40
West_Med 9.72
West_Asian 8.09
East_Med 1.88
South_Asian 0.42
Siberian 0.26
Amerindian 1.06

Naples

Population
North_Atlantic 16.56
Baltic 9.07
West_Med 22.63
West_Asian 13.35
East_Med 31.85
Red_Sea 6.14
Oceanian 0.14
Northeast_African 0.21

[firemonkey]

Thanks

North_Atlantic 52.73
Baltic 23.57
West_Med 11.90
West_Asian 4.17
East_Med 2.51
Red_Sea 1.50
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.43
Siberian 0.59
Amerindian 1.08
Oceanian 0.35
Northeast_African 1.15
Sub-Saharan -

[alnortedelsur]

With my 23AndMe:

North_Atlantic 31.93
Baltic 9.55
West_Med 21.66
West_Asian 4.36
East_Med 15.12
Red_Sea 3.20
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.82
Amerindian 6.51
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.08
Sub-Saharan 5.77

With my Ancestry DNA:


North_Atlantic 31.95
Baltic 8.88
West_Med 22.01
West_Asian 4.20
East_Med 15.70
Red_Sea 3.12
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.75
Amerindian 6.66
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.40
Sub-Saharan 5.34

Thanks in advance...

[Yehiel]

1 North_Atlantic 39.91
2 Baltic 26.29
3 West_Med 13.03
4 West_Asian 8.82
5 East_Med 7.08
6 Red_Sea 2.87
7 Amerindian 0.85
8 Northeast_African 0.7
9 Siberian 0.45

Thanks

[TEUTORIGOS]

Thanks :

Admix results sorted (it got rid of the irrelevant statistical noise of categories of under 1% and 0 -). So these are the only relevant ones that remain :

1 North_Atlantic 49.81
2 Baltic 23.36
3 West_Med 13.17
4 West_Asian 8.10
5 Siberian 1.37
6 Oceanian 1.15

[Grace O'Malley]

Thanks. Here's my K13.

Population
North_Atlantic 52.04
Baltic 25.27
West_Med 9.81
West_Asian 7.25
East_Med 1.77
Red_Sea 1.50
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.75
Amerindian 1.38
Oceanian 0.24
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Freeroostah]

Thanks man! :thumb001:

1 East_Med 22.63
2 West_Med 20.62
3 Baltic 19.72
4 North_Atlantic 18.31
5 West_Asian 13.19
6 Red_Sea 4.74
7 Northeast_African 0.39
8 Sub-Saharan 0.35
9 Siberian 0.06


(One of the calculators that makes me very Balkan shifted)

[MysteriousWays]

Thank you!!

Me:

23andme:

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 27.15
2 East_Med 24.54
3 North_Atlantic 19.43
4 Baltic 16.81
5 West_Asian 10.55
6 Red_Sea 1.52


LivingDNA:

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 27.14
2 East_Med 26.18
3 North_Atlantic 17.72
4 Baltic 16.7
5 West_Asian 11.55
6 Red_Sea 0.71


father:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.91
2 West_Med 25.64
3 North_Atlantic 17.71
4 Baltic 16.89
5 West_Asian 10.18
6 Red_Sea 1.6
7 Amerindian 0.63
8 Siberian 0.21
9 Northeast_African 0.12
10 Oceanian 0.06
11 East_Asian 0.05

You are all intermediate between Greek (Thessaly) and Tuscany/North Italy.

https://s5.postimg.org/vbruojlt3/dibran.png

[MysteriousWays]

My Results

Population
North_Atlantic 21.40
Baltic 7.37
West_Med 23.34
West_Asian 9.30
East_Med 31.41
Red_Sea 5.18
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.48
Sub-Saharan 0.52

You are just "west" of the West Sicily reference point.

https://s5.postimg.org/891bpdkbr/Principe.png

[MysteriousWays]

Population
North_Atlantic 38.70
Baltic 21.89
West_Med 14.90
West_Asian 7.60
East_Med 12.86
Red_Sea 0.06
South_Asian 2.15
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.24
Amerindian 0.20
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.39

You are closest to maybe southwest Germany overall it seems.

https://s5.postimg.org/n8tod817r/RN97.png

[MysteriousWays]

Thanks
Population
North_Atlantic 18.38
Baltic 20.62
West_Med 24.43
West_Asian 8.43
East_Med 24.38
Red_Sea 3.54
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.09
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.15
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan

You are very close to Dibran location wise.

https://s5.postimg.org/4f7vg82zr/Kelmendasi.png

[MysteriousWays]

1 East_Med 26.22
2 North_Atlantic 23.31
3 West_Med 21.33
4 Baltic 13.52
5 West_Asian 11.99
6 Red_Sea 2.26

Similar location to Dibran and Kelmendasi, perhaps the slightest bit closer to northern Greece.

https://s5.postimg.org/dcsldkvfr/Geni.png

[MysteriousWays]

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.04
2 West_Med 18.12
3 Baltic 17.79
4 North_Atlantic 17.66
5 West_Asian 14.32
6 Red_Sea 3.22
7 Amerindian 0.53
8 South_Asian 0.53
9 Siberian 0.41
10 East_Asian 0.37

Thanks

Closest to the Thessaly plot overall, but still a bit south and with more eastern European influence than the Thessaly reference point it seems.

https://s5.postimg.org/4j1owh8h3/Sorcelow.png

[MysteriousWays]

<tbody>
Population



North_Atlantic
54.84


Baltic
23.71


West_Med
10.83


West_Asian
4.57


East_Med
3.57


Red_Sea
-


South_Asian
0.21


East_Asian
0.35


Siberian
0.10


Amerindian
0.17


Oceanian
1.29


Northeast_African
0.31


Sub-Saharan
0.05

</tbody>

Closest to Orcadians, then to West Scots.

https://s5.postimg.org/hbpswek2v/Graham.png

[MysteriousWays]

Alessio

Population
North_Atlantic 37.15
Baltic 12.73
West_Med 18.32
West_Asian 11.57
East_Med 16.54
Red_Sea 2.50
Siberian 0.86
Amerindian 0.22
Northeast_African 0.11

North_Dutch (mom)

Population
North_Atlantic 54.04
Baltic 24.40
West_Med 9.72
West_Asian 8.09
East_Med 1.88
South_Asian 0.42
Siberian 0.26
Amerindian 1.06

Naples

Population
North_Atlantic 16.56
Baltic 9.07
West_Med 22.63
West_Asian 13.35
East_Med 31.85
Red_Sea 6.14
Oceanian 0.14
Northeast_African 0.21

I won't plot "North_Dutch" as there already is a built in North Dutch reference point. You plot between northern Italy and Serbia; your father plots on top of the "South Italian" marker.

https://s5.postimg.org/mbn94cppj/Alessio.png

[MysteriousWays]

Thanks

North_Atlantic 52.73
Baltic 23.57
West_Med 11.90
West_Asian 4.17
East_Med 2.51
Red_Sea 1.50
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.43
Siberian 0.59
Amerindian 1.08
Oceanian 0.35
Northeast_African 1.15
Sub-Saharan -

Yours is tough to see but is between SE English and West Scottish, so this is a better plot for you than PuntDNAL.

https://s5.postimg.org/hee9wzd47/firemonkey.png

[MysteriousWays]

1 North_Atlantic 39.91
2 Baltic 26.29
3 West_Med 13.03
4 West_Asian 8.82
5 East_Med 7.08
6 Red_Sea 2.87
7 Amerindian 0.85
8 Northeast_African 0.7
9 Siberian 0.45

Thanks

You plot as closest to Austria overall but a bit south of there.

https://s5.postimg.org/e8p2t1547/anoldposter.png

[MysteriousWays]

Thanks :

Admix results sorted (it got rid of the irrelevant statistical noise of categories of under 1% and 0 -). So these are the only relevant ones that remain :

1 North_Atlantic 49.81
2 Baltic 23.36
3 West_Med 13.17
4 West_Asian 8.10
5 Siberian 1.37
6 Oceanian 1.15

It is obscured as you are basically on top of South Dutch again, but are also about halfway between English and North German.

https://s5.postimg.org/i5702rfhj/Teutorigos.png

[MysteriousWays]

Thanks man! :thumb001:

1 East_Med 22.63
2 West_Med 20.62
3 Baltic 19.72
4 North_Atlantic 18.31
5 West_Asian 13.19
6 Red_Sea 4.74
7 Northeast_African 0.39
8 Sub-Saharan 0.35
9 Siberian 0.06

You are similar to Sorcelow, but a bit more north shifted. You are pretty close, but not quite on top of the Thessaly reference. Your results are consistent in all models it seems basically.

https://s5.postimg.org/xggt3dctj/Freeroostah.png

[MysteriousWays]

With my 23AndMe:

North_Atlantic 31.93
Baltic 9.55
West_Med 21.66
West_Asian 4.36
East_Med 15.12
Red_Sea 3.20
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.82
Amerindian 6.51
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.08
Sub-Saharan 5.77

With my Ancestry DNA:


North_Atlantic 31.95
Baltic 8.88
West_Med 22.01
West_Asian 4.20
East_Med 15.70
Red_Sea 3.12
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.75
Amerindian 6.66
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.40
Sub-Saharan 5.34

Thanks in advance...

Results are quite consistent with other tests. When looking only at your European and MENA components (I included northeast african in this), you look closest to Spain, but are about 30% of the way towards North Italy. The reason I included the northeast african is this will give more separation to Sicilians, Jews, from the rest of Europeans, as well as the MENA reference populations that I include.

There is no point to look at your non-European components in Eurogenes k13 as they do not include enough references from the Americas to be able to plot you accurately.

https://s5.postimg.org/renf1h9gn/alnorte_euro_neafrica.png

[Alessio]

I won't plot "North_Dutch" as there already is a built in North Dutch reference point. You plot between northern Italy and Serbia; your father plots on top of the "South Italian" marker.

https://s5.postimg.org/mbn94cppj/Alessio.png

Well, the reason I only want my mom (North_Dutch) and me (Alessio)is that I don't have my father tested and only my mom could be used as a real reference - not a random sample.

Tbh honest I don't think there's a better North_Dutch sample than my mom, because my family tree is pretty extensively researched and everyone in it is from Noord-Holland, a few Zuid-Holland and Friesland. Most Dutch people have some Belgian or German ancestry within 300 years or so, which my family lacks.

The Naples I gave is more of an extra really to see where my father would plot compared the that sample. I realize that you're doing this for research purposes as well as being helpful to other members, so either way it's much appreciated.

[MysteriousWays]

Well, the reason I only want my mom (North_Dutch) and me (Alessio)is that I don't have my father tested and only my mom could be used as a real reference - not a random sample.

Tbh honest I don't think there's a better North_Dutch sample than my mom, because my family tree is pretty extensively researched and everyone in it is from Noord-Holland, a few Zuid-Holland and Friesland. Most Dutch people have some Belgian or German ancestry within 300 years or so, which my family lacks.

The Naples I gave is more of an extra really to see where my father would plot compared the that sample. I realize that you're doing this for research purposes as well as being helpful to other members, so either way it's much appreciated.

OK, in this case, I will add it. I didn't realize that you did not have your dad's score, so that changes how I would look at this a bit. I should have it for you later this evening (U.S. time).

[Alessio]

OK, in this case, I will add it. I didn't realize that you did not have your dad's score, so that changes how I would look at this a bit. I should have it for you later this evening (U.S. time).

Thank you very much my friend! Much appreciated :)
I wish to get it in the future, but not everyone is open to DNA-testing so it seems.
The Naples sample is my third cousin actually :p

[alnortedelsur]

Results are quite consistent with other tests. When looking only at your European and MENA components (I included northeast african in this), you look closest to Spain, but are about 30% of the way towards North Italy. The reason I included the northeast african is this will give more separation to Sicilians, Jews, from the rest of Europeans, as well as the MENA reference populations that I include.

There is no point to look at your non-European components in Eurogenes k13 as they do not include enough references from the Americas to be able to plot you accurately.

https://s5.postimg.org/renf1h9gn/alnorte_euro_neafrica.png

Thanks bro :)

[TEUTORIGOS]

It is obscured as you are basically on top of South Dutch again, but are also about halfway between English and North German.

https://s5.postimg.org/i5702rfhj/Teutorigos.png

Thanks, I think you meant north Dutch, though. I'm guessing it is perhaps correct, somehow , because :

1.) It is correct for most Europeans that is why it is the default eurogenes calculator

2.) Firemonkey's, Graham's , etc... were basically correct more or less

3.)Other PCA charts you have done for me have placed me around the same area

4.) The strongest ethnic affinity on my unofficial map for Eurogenes K36 is Dutch

I am not really sure how this could be the case except that the British Isles cluster somewhat close to the Dutch so my ancestry from Alsace-Lorraine could have dragged me down, across the channel, to cluster more continental European.

[Karol Klačansky]

with ancestry
Population
North_Atlantic 36.08
Baltic 38.31
West_Med 11.79
West_Asian 1.45
East_Med 8.05
Red_Sea 0.29
South_Asian 0.95
East_Asian 0.66
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.19
Oceanian 0.57
Northeast_African 0.61
Sub-Saharan 0.06

with living DNA
Population
North_Atlantic 35.85
Baltic 38.08
West_Med 9.80
West_Asian 1.85
East_Med 8.65
Red_Sea 1.68
South_Asian 0.91
East_Asian 1.01
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.91
Oceanian 0.65
Northeast_African 0.36
Sub-Saharan 0.26

thanks!

[magicalM]

Thanks again!
#PopulationPercent
1North_Atlantic35.95
2Baltic29.67
3West_Med14.53
4West_Asian10.62
5East_Med5.39
6South_Asian1.95
7East_Asian0.98
8Northeast_African0.56
9SubSaharan0.33
10Oceanian0.01


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[Ibericus]

Can you plot these two spaniards (thanks in advance=¡) :

North_Atlantic 51.77
Baltic 2.63
West_Med 41.65
West_Asian -
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.68
South_Asian 2.73
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.54
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


North_Atlantic 38.22
Baltic 15.41
West_Med 24.63
West_Asian 4.20
East_Med 12.89
Red_Sea 1.73
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.34
Siberian 1.10
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.58
Sub-Saharan 0.90

[Freeroostah]

You are similar to Sorcelow, but a bit more north shifted. You are pretty close, but not quite on top of the Thessaly reference. Your results are consistent in all models it seems basically.

https://s5.postimg.org/xggt3dctj/Freeroostah.png

Still closer to Abruzzo than any other Balkan nation...again this calculator as well as the Punt K13 Global are the ones that make me heavily Balkan
Thanks again :thumb001:

[Grace O'Malley]

Thanks. Here's my K13.

Population
North_Atlantic 52.04
Baltic 25.27
West_Med 9.81
West_Asian 7.25
East_Med 1.77
Red_Sea 1.50
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.75
Amerindian 1.38
Oceanian 0.24
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Any chance of doing mine? Thanks

[MysteriousWays]

with ancestry
Population
North_Atlantic 36.08
Baltic 38.31
West_Med 11.79
West_Asian 1.45
East_Med 8.05
Red_Sea 0.29
South_Asian 0.95
East_Asian 0.66
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.19
Oceanian 0.57
Northeast_African 0.61
Sub-Saharan 0.06

with living DNA
Population
North_Atlantic 35.85
Baltic 38.08
West_Med 9.80
West_Asian 1.85
East_Med 8.65
Red_Sea 1.68
South_Asian 0.91
East_Asian 1.01
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.91
Oceanian 0.65
Northeast_African 0.36
Sub-Saharan 0.26

thanks!

You plot about where I'd expect.

https://s5.postimg.org/mtsiefrxj/karol.k.png

[MysteriousWays]

Thanks again!
#PopulationPercent
1North_Atlantic35.95
2Baltic29.67
3West_Med14.53
4West_Asian10.62
5East_Med5.39
6South_Asian1.95
7East_Asian0.98
8Northeast_African0.56
9SubSaharan0.33
10Oceanian0.01


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You are German shifted overall it seems.

https://s5.postimg.org/i96bzi887/magicalm.png

[MysteriousWays]

Can you plot these two spaniards (thanks in advance=¡) :

North_Atlantic 51.77
Baltic 2.63
West_Med 41.65
West_Asian -
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.68
South_Asian 2.73
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.54
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


North_Atlantic 38.22
Baltic 15.41
West_Med 24.63
West_Asian 4.20
East_Med 12.89
Red_Sea 1.73
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.34
Siberian 1.10
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.58
Sub-Saharan 0.90

Quite different from another one. #1 appears to be Basque...#2 appears to likely be Catalan.

https://s5.postimg.org/equc347c7/spaniard_ib.png

[Karol Klačansky]

You plot about where I'd expect.

https://s5.postimg.org/mtsiefrxj/karol.k.pngYea Like a slav but no quite [emoji19] ...I'm kidding thanks a lot man [emoji41]

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[MysteriousWays]

Any chance of doing mine? Thanks

Closest to North Dutch.

https://s5.postimg.org/y9yxch63r/Grace.png

[pmv74]

Can you plot mine please???

Population
North_Atlantic15.22
Baltic7.52
West_Med24.05
West_Asian15.24
East_Med30.33
Red_Sea6.21
South_Asian-
East_Asian-
Siberian-
Amerindian0.55
Oceanian0.28
Northeast_African0.60
Sub-Saharan-











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[MysteriousWays]

Can you plot mine please???

Population
North_Atlantic15.22
Baltic7.52
West_Med24.05
West_Asian15.24
East_Med30.33
Red_Sea6.21
South_Asian-
East_Asian-
Siberian-
Amerindian0.55
Oceanian0.28
Northeast_African0.60
Sub-Saharan-











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You are closest to the "South_Italian" marker.

https://s5.postimg.org/bg6ha5auf/pmv74.png

[magicalM]

You are German shifted overall it seems.

https://s5.postimg.org/i96bzi887/magicalm.png
I knew that I am German shifted but this is maybe a little too much when looking at the single population sharing. If I post these results will it change anything?

#Population (source)Distance
1Austrian4.49
2East_German4.94
3Hungarian6.77
4West_German10.06
5Croatian10.56
6South_Dutch11.12
7North_German11.2
8Moldavian11.73
9Serbian12.29
10South_Polish12.87
11Swedish13.45
12Danish13.84
13Ukrainian_Lviv13.94
14North_Swedish14.12
15North_Dutch14.13
16French14.84
17Southeast_English14.93
18Norwegian14.99
19Ukrainian15.03
20Orcadian15.35


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[MysteriousWays]

I knew that I am German shifted but this is maybe a little too much when looking at the single population sharing. If I post these results will it change anything?

#Population (source)Distance
1Austrian4.49
2East_German4.94
3Hungarian6.77
4West_German10.06
5Croatian10.56
6South_Dutch11.12
7North_German11.2
8Moldavian11.73
9Serbian12.29
10South_Polish12.87
11Swedish13.45
12Danish13.84
13Ukrainian_Lviv13.94
14North_Swedish14.12
15North_Dutch14.13
16French14.84
17Southeast_English14.93
18Norwegian14.99
19Ukrainian15.03
20Orcadian15.35


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I will take a look as this does seem to be too much.

[magicalM]

I will take a look as this does seem to be too much.
Thanks alot

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[MysteriousWays]

Magicalm,
Here are revised results. They are still a tad too German shifted in my opinion, but are much closer.

https://s26.postimg.org/fj1u1c2p5/magicalm_revised.png

[magicalM]

Magicalm,
Here are revised results. They are still a tad too German shifted in my opinion, but are much closer.

https://s26.postimg.org/fj1u1c2p5/magicalm_revised.png
Seems more correct. Eurogenes in general have the tendency to place me closer to central Europe. Single population sharings from other calculators seems to differ. In the right order, most Hungarian then Austrian, Slovenian and Croatian.

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[Karol Klačansky]

Seems more correct. Eurogenes in general have the tendency to place me closer to central Europe. Single population sharings from other calculators seems to differ. In the right order, most Hungarian then Austrian, Slovenian and Croatian.

Sent from my LG-H815 using TapatalkIt's better to cut out southern Europeans and especially non European population out of PCAs if you really want to see a better representation of the actual distances. You lose variation and clarity when you add to many populations with widely different components.

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[magicalM]

There is no question that you can get answers looking at the eurogenes. But denying some of the overlapping between region's can get you a less detailed and narrow interpretation, especially when one have a genetic makeup from different regions and even different countries. The genetic variation in many areas is quite similar and in some cases there are only a few nuances that can separate someone's origin. Comparing all the calculators and finding the typical tendencies is one way that I do it. The northern European influences in my results is one side of the story and ftdna have predominantly members from these regions. It is easy to trace my Norwegian background even when I only have 8 percent in my dna. But what about the other side of the story and what can that tell one?

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[Light]

Please submit your Eurogenes K13 admixture proportions. I may not get be able to get to them for another day or so, but if you post, I promise to get to them as soon as I can. Thanks. I will be making a Eurogenes K13 set of PCA plots.

Still available?

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26.21
2 Baltic 25.76
3 West_Med 18.03
4 East_Med 16.58
5 West_Asian 9.14
6 Red_Sea 1.45
7 East_Asian 0.8
8 Sub-Saharan 0.79
9 Amerindian 0.48
10 Oceanian 0.39
11 Siberian 0.36

Thank you!

[de Burgh II]

Thanks in advance! :3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.64
2 Baltic 19.98
3 West_Med 15.56
4 West_Asian 5.99
5 East_Med 4.3
6 Amerindian 1.2
7 South_Asian 1.05
8 Red_Sea 1
9 Northeast_African 0.23
10 Oceanian 0.05

[MysteriousWays]

Still available?

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26.21
2 Baltic 25.76
3 West_Med 18.03
4 East_Med 16.58
5 West_Asian 9.14
6 Red_Sea 1.45
7 East_Asian 0.8
8 Sub-Saharan 0.79
9 Amerindian 0.48
10 Oceanian 0.39
11 Siberian 0.36

Thank you!

Yes, going to work on these tonight.

[Decius]

Please submit your Eurogenes K13 admixture proportions. I may not get be able to get to them for another day or so, but if you post, I promise to get to them as soon as I can. Thanks. I will be making a Eurogenes K13 set of PCA plots.

I know its probably to late for this and you most likely dont even have the PCA anymore.


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.06
2 North_Atlantic 23.13
3 West_Med 19.04
4 West_Asian 12.54
5 East_Med 10.36
6 Red_Sea 3.4
7 Siberian 0.73
8 Oceanian 0.37
9 East_Asian 0.2
10 Amerindian 0.18

[Erronkari]

Could you try mine, please??

Population
North_Atlantic 44.52
Baltic 3.55
West_Med 33.69
West_Asian 3.02
East_Med 8.12
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.82
East_Asian 1.18
Siberian -
Amerindian 3.89
Oceanian 0.63
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.58


Thank you in advance! :thumb001: