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MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 08:32 PM
I received a request to make PCA plots for the Gedrosia Near East Neolithic k13. Let's give it a shot and see how everything looks. This is probably going to be the last one I day for a while; hope everyone has been finding this interesting.
Yehiel
08-27-2017, 08:34 PM
1 CHG_EEF 41.69
2 EHG 15
3 SHG_WHG 14.32
4 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 14.31
5 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 6.4
6 NATUFIAN 5.08
7 POLAR 1.26
8 SUB_SAHARAN 1.05
9 KARITIANA 0.89
Thank you
Kelmendasi
08-27-2017, 08:34 PM
Thanks
Population
SE_ASIAN 0.97
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 23.21
CHG_EEF 37.76
POLAR -
EHG 7.22
SUB_SAHARAN -
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 9.56
KARITIANA -
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.81
NATUFIAN 10.92
SIBERIAN 0.13
PAPUAN -
SHG_WHG 9.42
Thanks for all the PCA's you make dude. I feel like this one won't be so good as the modern calcs.
Population
SE_ASIAN -
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 15.06
CHG_EEF 41.70
POLAR 1.19
EHG 13.92
SUB_SAHARAN 0.33
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 6.00
KARITIANA 0.56
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 1.30
NATUFIAN 6.54
SIBERIAN -
PAPUAN 0.44
SHG_WHG 12.96
Coolguy1
08-27-2017, 08:35 PM
SE_ASIAN 1.67
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 19.84
CHG_EEF 35.21
POLAR 0.24
EHG 11.32
SUB_SAHARAN 0.73
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 11.11
KARITIANA 0.22
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN -
NATUFIAN 11.94
SIBERIAN -
PAPUAN -
SHG_WHG 7.71
Thanks!
magicalM
08-27-2017, 08:38 PM
I received a request to make PCA plots for the Gedrosia Near East Neolithic k13. Let's give it a shot and see how everything looks. This is probably going to be the last one I day for a while; hope everyone has been finding this interesting.
Very interesting indeed! Thanks for your efforts!
Sebastian 0.32
ANATOLIA neolithic 14.23
CHG EEF 43.50
POLAR 2.61
EHG 14.53
SUB_SAHARAN-
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 7.37
KARITIANA-
ANCESTRAL INDIAN 0.21
NATUFIAN 3.90
SIBERIAN 0.06
PAPUAN-
SHG WHG 13.27
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MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 08:38 PM
Thanks for all the PCA's you make dude. I feel like this one won't be so good as the modern calcs.
Population
SE_ASIAN -
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 15.06
CHG_EEF 41.70
POLAR 1.19
EHG 13.92
SUB_SAHARAN 0.33
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 6.00
KARITIANA 0.56
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 1.30
NATUFIAN 6.54
SIBERIAN -
PAPUAN 0.44
SHG_WHG 12.96
It will match you up on modern populations though, not ancient.
firemonkey
08-27-2017, 08:40 PM
Thanks.
SE_ASIAN 0.28
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 13.99
CHG_EEF 41.20
POLAR 0.12
EHG 18.24
SUB_SAHARAN 0.58
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.75
KARITIANA 0.71
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 2.51
NATUFIAN 4.37
SIBERIAN -
PAPUAN 0.58
SHG_WHG 15.67
It will match you up on modern populations though, not ancient.
Yeah, but I meant it doesn't match as well with geneology as the calcs. that uses modern components like baltic, north_atlantic etc. rather than actual ancient populations such as WHG, SHG, Natufians etc.
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:35 PM
1 CHG_EEF 41.69
2 EHG 15
3 SHG_WHG 14.32
4 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 14.31
5 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 6.4
6 NATUFIAN 5.08
7 POLAR 1.26
8 SUB_SAHARAN 1.05
9 KARITIANA 0.89
Thank you
Dimensionality of the plot is problematic for Europeans. It pretty much throws all Europeans into a straight line and on a cline. You are near Croatia on this one. There is also no German reference.
https://s5.postimg.org/hcr0hpo2v/anoldposter.png
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:36 PM
I am going to finish up the ones that are posted up to now,then shut this down. I find the plots neither interesting nor innovative.
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:40 PM
Thanks
Population
SE_ASIAN 0.97
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 23.21
CHG_EEF 37.76
POLAR -
EHG 7.22
SUB_SAHARAN -
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 9.56
KARITIANA -
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.81
NATUFIAN 10.92
SIBERIAN 0.13
PAPUAN -
SHG_WHG 9.42
Closer to Bulgaria or Romania than to Albania on this one. Placement is clearly off.
https://s5.postimg.org/u5jpvdp2f/kelmendasi.png
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:42 PM
Thanks for all the PCA's you make dude. I feel like this one won't be so good as the modern calcs.
Population
SE_ASIAN -
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 15.06
CHG_EEF 41.70
POLAR 1.19
EHG 13.92
SUB_SAHARAN 0.33
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 6.00
KARITIANA 0.56
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 1.30
NATUFIAN 6.54
SIBERIAN -
PAPUAN 0.44
SHG_WHG 12.96
Between Croatia and Romania (very poor placement imo).
https://s5.postimg.org/rcqibcopz/RN97.png
Kelmendasi
08-27-2017, 09:42 PM
Closer to Bulgaria or Romania than to Albania on this one. Placement is clearly off.
[IM]https://s5.postimg.org/u5jpvdp2f/kelmendasi.png[/IMG]
Lol yh, like a more north-west shifted Bulgarian. Perhaps due to my SHG-WHG being similar to that of Bulgarians and Romanians?
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:44 PM
SE_ASIAN 1.67
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 19.84
CHG_EEF 35.21
POLAR 0.24
EHG 11.32
SUB_SAHARAN 0.73
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 11.11
KARITIANA 0.22
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN -
NATUFIAN 11.94
SIBERIAN -
PAPUAN -
SHG_WHG 7.71
Thanks!
Closer to Albania than to Greece.
https://s5.postimg.org/tikt5us6f/Sorcelow.png
1 CHG_EEF 34.68
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 23.94
3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 11.59
4 NATUFIAN 10.15
5 EHG 9.07
6 SHG_WHG 8.5
7 SE_ASIAN 1.12
Thanks
Closer to Albania than to Greece.
https://s5.postimg.org/tikt5us6f/Sorcelow.png
:lol:
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:46 PM
Thanks
Population
SE_ASIAN 0.97
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 23.21
CHG_EEF 37.76
POLAR -
EHG 7.22
SUB_SAHARAN -
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 9.56
KARITIANA -
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.81
NATUFIAN 10.92
SIBERIAN 0.13
PAPUAN -
SHG_WHG 9.42
No, it was a typo actually. Didn't have enough Natufian; just the slightest bit north of Albania marker.
Kelmendasi
08-27-2017, 09:47 PM
No, it was a typo actually. Didn't have enough Natufian; just the slightest bit north of Albania marker.
Aha lol makes sense. Could you post it please?
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:49 PM
Very interesting indeed! Thanks for your efforts!
Sebastian 0.32
ANATOLIA neolithic 14.23
CHG EEF 43.50
POLAR 2.61
EHG 14.53
SUB_SAHARAN-
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 7.37
KARITIANA-
ANCESTRAL INDIAN 0.21
NATUFIAN 3.90
SIBERIAN 0.06
PAPUAN-
SHG WHG 13.27
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Sorry, it's obscured, but you are on top of Croatia.
https://s5.postimg.org/4dtssfspz/magicalm.png
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:53 PM
Thanks.
SE_ASIAN 0.28
ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 13.99
CHG_EEF 41.20
POLAR 0.12
EHG 18.24
SUB_SAHARAN 0.58
IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.75
KARITIANA 0.71
ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 2.51
NATUFIAN 4.37
SIBERIAN -
PAPUAN 0.58
SHG_WHG 15.67
Between English and French.
https://s5.postimg.org/5u5bakvmv/firemonkey.png
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:56 PM
Aha lol makes sense. Could you post it please?
Here is the corrected one.
https://s5.postimg.org/55wgrmwx3/kelmendasi_c.png
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:58 PM
1 CHG_EEF 34.68
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 23.94
3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 11.59
4 NATUFIAN 10.15
5 EHG 9.07
6 SHG_WHG 8.5
7 SE_ASIAN 1.12
Thanks
You are also pretty close to the Albanian marker.
https://s5.postimg.org/x7ai5c27b/Geni.png
MysteriousWays
08-27-2017, 09:59 PM
OK, I'm shutting this down. If I can think of another good PCA, I'll do it at some point, but this one wasn't very interesting for me.
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