New map shows Haplogroup Q is Southeast Asian Mongoloid origin ?

[ButlerKing]

Why is haplogroup Q so significant in parts of Southeast Asia ? I though this was a Northern Asian marker but it's even non-existent in Japan. I also noticed southern portion of Sri Lanka and the very eastern edge of India having more haplogroup Q than other parts.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Haplogroup_Q_%28Y-DNA%29.PNG

" Haplogroup Q shows low frequencies in Southeast Asia. In a study,[40] the frequencies of haplogroup Q is 5.4% (2/37) in Indonesia, 3.1% (2/64) in the Philippines, 2.5% (1/40) in Thailand. However, other studies show 0% or near 0% frequencies in those countries.[42] In the case of Vietnam, the frequency is 7% in a study,[60] but 0% or under 1% in other studies.[40][42] So, it is hard to define average frequencies. But, it is safe to say that southeast Asia generally shows very low frequency (about 0.5%~1%) of Q-M242, and the continental regions show higher frequencies than island ones. "

" Only some regions and ethnic groups in the continent show high frequencies." (<------ I don't care, it's still weird as heck)

Q-M242 is found in 2.8% (3/106, all Q-M346) in Myanmar, and all the Q samples are concentrated in 18.8% in Ayeyarwady (2/11) and 7.1% Bago (1/14) regions in southwest Myanmar.[61]

Q-M242 is found in 55.6% (15/27) in the Akha tribe in northern Thailand.[42]

[Fractal]

Why are you discussing this bullshit?

Help me out with this fat fuck dago spic mutant tard anti-Hindu cyber terrorist called Magnus Aurelius, and all the terroristic MENAs, southern europeans and few latino beaners who support him.

Anti-Hindu, anti-Indo-Aryan sentiment is alive and well.

[ButlerKing]

Why are you discussing this bullshit?

Help me out with this fat fuck dago spic mutant tard anti-Hindu cyber terrorist called Magnus Aurelius, and all the terroristic MENAs, southern europeans and few latino beaners who support him.

Anti-Hindu, anti-Indo-Aryan sentiment is alive and well.

Those losers can't do crap. Their comments and views on their is insignificant.

This youtube video have 156,983+ views.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qych3WYNViA

Haplogroup R1a is already proven to be of Indian origin and Sanskrit originated from India.

[MagnusAurelius]

Why are you discussing this bullshit?

Help me out with this fat fuck dago spic mutant tard anti-Hindu cyber terrorist called Magnus Aurelius, and all the terroristic MENAs, southern europeans and few latino beaners who support him.

Anti-Hindu, anti-Indo-Aryan sentiment is alive and well.

I have trolled you so effectively that you are now obsessed and even posting about me in unrelated threads, you are a complete and utter retard, look at yourself, you make your self look like the laughing stalk idiot of this forum just like you shamefully admitted to me in pm, trying to add me in with you so you cannot bear the brunt of this shame alone, sorry little Guju, it is only you.

Trolling South Asians is fun and it is very entertaining to see how effectively it has worked on you, my little mixed race mutt dog. No other Cultural group on earth has more ethnic/cultural pride, generally speaking and surely no other Culture on earth treats their ethnic minorities as badly as South Asians do but it's no surprise, a result of the caste system which at least maintained some level of racial purity in South Asia. It was discouraged to mix with lower castes with the Ancient Caste system but I doubt it was forbidden in Ancient times.

You South Asians degrade and treat each other like trash, often being racist against your own people (vast majority of whom are totally unaware that they may be 70-80% Caucasoid and are strictly degrading/insulting another South Asian based on their caste/ethnicity) Paki's vs North Indians vs South Indians, the great divide along with conflicts among groups in their own regions. South Asia is a huge mess, has much less order than China but that is no surprise, Han Chinese are the most populous in China while the largest ethnic groups in South Asia are Bengalis and Punjabis by population but many others have high populations and Punjabi'+Bengalis combined don't even make up half of the sub continents population.

Then you get mad when someone like me tries to own/degrade and insult your culture, I only started doing it after becoming aware of you little Fractal because I know you are easily triggered, before I knew about you I would only make Indian theme posts about banging Indian women/racial purification or discussing the IndoAryan invasion etc. Wasn't going out of my way to make blatant insulting/ownage threads against India/South Asia.

[ButlerKing]

I'm still curious why this haplogroup Q happen to be so common in some parts of Southeast Asian region and how the hell did appear in Southeast India ? from the Q distribution in India ( it seems higher in the east than west) did it entered from Southeast Asia to India ?????


Not counting America's. I though this was suppose to be sometype of indigenous North Asian yet it's distribution seems more widespread in Southeast Asia. ?

[Вavhat]

Y-DNA Haplogroup Q originated in Central Asia or Southern Siberia. Its frequency in India is 2-3%.
But its South Asian subclade(s) are not Mongoloid since its highest frequency in India is in Chaudhari (Gujarati tribal) at 12%, who are not Mongoloid:

Indian with haplogroup Q (Chowdhury tribal)
https://trti.gujarat.gov.in/assets/images/dhodia_slider_img4_big.jpg
(Image changed, accidentally I had put a picture of a woman, only men have ydna. )

Also its ancestor is Haplogroup F which is from South Asia.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Haplogroup_F_%28Y-DNA%29.PNG/220px-Haplogroup_F_%28Y-DNA%29.PNG


That is total nonsense. Qs as is Rs ancestor is P which have been found exclusively on the jungles of Island South East Asia. Q is without a doubt South East Asian in origin as is it's y-Brother R.
Not at all. Island Southeast Asia, includes islands in Bay of Bengal of India (not all of India is in South Asia). P1 is direct ancestor of Q and R, and today highest frequency of P1 are in South Asia and South Siberia, at 30-35%, also found in lower frequencies in Central Asia, Caucasus, Europe. And anyway, what I had said is, Q eventually traces to Haplogroup F, and that is true: F>GHIJK>HIJK>IJK>K>K2>MPS>P>P1>Q

[ButlerKing]

Y-DNA Haplogroup Q originated in Central Asia or Southern Siberia. Its frequency in India is 2-3%. But its South Asian subclade(s) are not Mongoloid since its highest frequency in India is in Chaudhari (Gujarati indigenous tribal) at 12%, who are not Mongoloid. Also Its ancestor is Haplogroup F which is from South Asia.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Haplogroup_F_%28Y-DNA%29.PNG/220px-Haplogroup_F_%28Y-DNA%29.PNG

Indegenious Gujarati tribals also shows East Asian Mongoloid admixture in the autosomal DNA it could well be due to haplogroup Q but this my superficial guess. Haplogroup Q is so common in Siberians, Southeast Asians, sub-populations of Southern China and so extremely high in Amerindians, although Amerindians Mongoloids are different from the Asia Mongoloid they still Mongoloid.

Haplogroup F have many ancestors but this was such a long time, who knows if it even looked like a modern South Asians.

[ButlerKing]

Indian with haplogroup Q (Chowdhury tribal woman)
https://trti.gujarat.gov.in/assets/images/choudhuri_slider_img7.jpg


Yes, they have East Asian Mongoloid admixture.

The " Gujarati4 " study here is supposed to represent the Gujarati indigenous tribes autosomal DNA admixture and we can clearly see they have 10-12%. As for Gujarati3 study , I'm not clear f it represents normal population or tribal indigenous

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oa3bBts6e3M/Ur6VH_81tpI/AAAAAAAAAUI/JGoPs1UmWyA/s1600/Lazaridis2014_EDF3_K6.png%3Cfont%20color=

[ButlerKing]

Other Indian with this weird ass East Asian admixture can be explained by the Central Asian Turkic invasion of South Asia since the 11th century. Central Asian Turks are mixed whether they have Mongoloid haplogroups Y-DNA or Caucasoid haplogroup Y-DNA. A Turk can be 99% Mongoloid and still be R1a so god knows how many Caucasian markers that were tained by Mongoloid admixture.

The other possibly is haplogroup O

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Haplogrupo_O_%28ADN-Y%29_edit.png



You're misinterpreting the admixture. There was no Veddoid component, that's why some of it was detected as Mongoloid. According to Eurogenes all Gujaratis are 1-2% (negligible) Mongoloid or less


NO, I'M NOT. The Gujarati are a Indo-Aryan ethnic group and they are not genetically/linguistically related with the vast majority of schedule tribes who are are mostly not Indo-Aryan speaking groups. They either recent migrants, ancient population or incorporated by the Gujarati sultanate.

Genetically/Linguistically they are treated different. You could be right that the real Gujarati have only 1-2% Mongoloid but the tribal ones are different.

[Вavhat]

Yes, they have East Asian Mongoloid admixture.

The " Gujarati4 " study here is supposed to represent the Gujarati indigenous tribes autosomal DNA admixture and we can clearly see they have 10-12%. As for Gujarati3 study , I'm not clear f it represents normal population or tribal indigenous

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oa3bBts6e3M/Ur6VH_81tpI/AAAAAAAAAUI/JGoPs1UmWyA/s1600/Lazaridis2014_EDF3_K6.png%3Cfont%20color=

The GujaratiA-D are not labeled as certain groups, so you can't assume that. Also, you're misinterpreting the admixture. There was no Veddoid component, that's why some of it was detected/proxied by Mongoloid. According to most other sources, Gujaratis are 1-2% Mongoloid or less. Veddoid is often detected as partially Mongoloid when there is no South Asian components, this happens in other admixture analyses too:

https://images.nature.com/full/nature-assets/nature/journal/v506/n7487/images/nature13025-sf3.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/dmpssy.jpg

In the above admixtures, You can see at lower k levels, S Asians have some Mongoloid admixture (As a proxy for Veddoid), at higher K levels when a S Asian component is introduced, S Asians have no Mongoloid.

Also the Caucasoid ancestry for S Asians, is estimated higher in these and most other analyses than in Lazaridis analysis you posted.

Btw, Veddoid is very different from Oceanian Australoids, Onge, Andamanese genetically - the fst distance between even the most Veddoid-mixed Indians and Oceanians is about 0.155, they are much closer to all other Eurasians than to Oceanians. Even if they have same ancestral components at lower K levels, that is due to common ancestry, but since the modern Oceanians have isolated and separated 10000+ years, are no longer similar to Veddoids when compared to other humans.


Don't say all Gujaratis because Scheduled Tribes in Gujarat are treated separately from the Indo-Aryan Gujarati. There are nearly 30 distinct tribes and many of them share different/distinct haplogroups.

No, they are treated as other Gujaratis. Also Indo-Aryan is linguistic group, it has not much connection in genetics. Chaudhri native language is Chodri (Bhil language) which is Indo-Aryan, all Gujarati tribals are Indo-Aryan. Some Chaudhri claim Rajput descent, so you can't assume they have certain genetics just because they are tribals, but that said most Indians are quite similar genetically.

All this is a bit off-topic. Regarding your topic, you have not even provide any evidence yet that haplogroup Q originates in Southeast Asia, you only gave some statistics of its prevalence there. Q originates in Central Asia or Siberia, and its direct ancestor P1 originates in maritime Southeast Asia, which includes some India islands off east coast, and P1's highest frequency is in South Asia and Siberia. In addition, P1 and O's eventual ancestor is F, which is from South Asia.

[ButlerKing]

You're misinterpreting the admixture. There was no Veddoid component, that's why some of it was detected as Mongoloid. According to Eurogenes all Gujaratis are 1-2% (negligible) Mongoloid or less.


The Purple component = Veddoid, Australoid, Papuan.

Don't say all Gujaratis because Scheduled Tribes in Gujarat are treated separately from the Indo-Aryan Gujarati. There are nearly 30 distinct tribes and many of them share different/distinct haplogroups.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Its altain/ mongol siberian

[ButlerKing]

The genetic studies of Gujarati1, Gujarati2, Gujarati3, Gujarati4 are properly all tribals Gujarati (which the vast majority are not even Indo-Aryan ) and definitely are not physically/genetically/linguistically related.

These tribes are either recent/or ancient migrants, indigenous population, or Incorporated by the Gujarat Sultanate in the 15th-16th century during their expansion.

[Harkonnen]

Y-DNA Haplogroup Q originated in Central Asia or Southern Siberia. Its frequency in India is 2-3%.
But its South Asian subclade(s) are not Mongoloid since its highest frequency in India is in Chaudhari (Gujarati tribal) at 12%, who are not Mongoloid:

Indian with haplogroup Q (Chowdhury tribal woman)
https://trti.gujarat.gov.in/assets/images/choudhuri_slider_img7.jpg

Also Its ancestor is Haplogroup F which is from South Asia.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Haplogroup_F_%28Y-DNA%29.PNG/220px-Haplogroup_F_%28Y-DNA%29.PNG

That is total nonsense. Qs as is Rs ancestor is P which have been found exclusively on the jungles of Island South East Asia. Q is without a doubt South East Asian in origin as is it's y-Brother R.

[ButlerKing]

Can anyone explain the high percentage of Q in Southeast Asia ? I know it says its rare marker overall but it seems to be very common in some Southeast Asian and ethnic group. So common in fact that even many Turkic and Siberian groups don't have like they do.

[ButlerKing]

The GujaratiA-D are not labeled as certain groups, so you can't assume that. Also, you're misinterpreting the admixture. There was no Veddoid component, that's why some of it was detected/proxied by Mongoloid. According to most other sources, Gujaratis are 1-2% Mongoloid or less. Veddoid is often detected as partially Mongoloid when there is no South Asian components, this happens in other admixture analyses too:

https://images.nature.com/full/nature-assets/nature/journal/v506/n7487/images/nature13025-sf3.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/dmpssy.jpg

In the above admixtures, You can see at lower k levels, S Asians have some Mongoloid admixture (As a proxy for Veddoid), at higher K levels when a S Asian component is introduced, S Asians have no Mongoloid.

Also the Caucasoid ancestry for S Asians, is estimated higher in these and most other analyses than in Lazaridis analysis you posted.

Btw, Veddoid is very different from Oceanian Australoids, Onge, Andamanese genetically - the fst distance between even the most Veddoid-mixed Indians and Oceanians is about 0.155, they are much closer to all other Eurasians than to Oceanians. Even if they have same ancestral components at lower K levels, that is due to common ancestry, but since the modern Oceanians have isolated and separated 10000+ years, are no longer similar to Veddoids when compared to other humans.



No, they are treated as other Gujaratis. Also Indo-Aryan is linguistic group, it has not much connection in genetics. Chaudhri native language is Chodri (Bhil language) which is Indo-Aryan, all Gujarati tribals are Indo-Aryan. Some Chaudhri claim Rajput descent, so you can't assume they have certain genetics just because they are tribals, but that said most Indians are quite similar genetically.

All this is a bit off-topic. Regarding your topic, you have not even provide any evidence yet that haplogroup Q originates in Southeast Asia, you only gave some statistics of its prevalence there. Q originates in Central Asia or Siberia, and its direct ancestor P1 originates in maritime Southeast Asia, which includes some India islands off east coast, and P1's highest frequency is in South Asia and Siberia. In addition, P1 and O's eventual ancestor is F, which is from South Asia.

No, Veddoid admixture are absolutely different from East Asian Mongoloid admixture. Your graph doesn't show Veddoid as East Asian admixture while the Veddoid admixture in the graph I posted is part of the purple shade which is grouped together with other admixtures Oceanian Australoids, Onge, Andamanese

HOWEVER VEDDOID ADMIXTURE IS ABSOLUTELY UNRELATED WITH AUSTRALOIDS, OCENIANS, ONGE They are different races.

They just sometimes grouped them together for some stupid reason because they are part of the ingenious dark skin races of Asia.


For example the dark green shaded colored in this study is distinctive South Indian/Veddoid admixture while the red/purple are East Eurasian admixture. Red admixture is East Asian/Southeast Asia while pink is Siberian.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x6Y4ZgFsZdY/TTERAYPRl2I/AAAAAAAAAfQ/vYvQLuTTMtE/s1600/AAIndia.jpg

Veddoid is generally grouped together with Oceanian Australoids, Onge, Andamanese in many chart but sometimes as

I've seen studies where they put Indians as 40% East Asian due to Veddoid admixture

Haplogroup F and Q are both dinstic markers. Haplogroup Q evolved in Siberia not in South Asia. Haplogroup F also have many ancestors markers but they all evolved differently in the end.

[Fractal]

The genetic studies of Gujarati1, Gujarati2, Gujarati3, Gujarati4 are properly all tribals Gujarati (which the vast majority are not even Indo-Aryan ) and definitely are not physically/genetically/linguistically related.

These tribes are either recent/or ancient migrants, indigenous population, or Incorporated by the Gujarat Sultanate in the 15th-16th century during their expansion.

Yes absolutely. I think that Gujarati is some dalit which is why he keeps spewing out the same nonsense that Magnus does.

[Fractal]

No, Veddoid admixture are absolutely different from East Asian Mongoloid admixture. Your graph shows Veddoid as East Asian admixture while the Veddoid admixture in the graph I posted is part of the purple shade which is grouped together with other admixtures Oceanian Australoids, Onge, Andamanese

HOWEVER VEDDOID ADMIXTURE IS ABSOLUTELY UNRELATED WITH AUSTRALOIDS, OCENIANS, ONGE

They just sometimes grouped them together for some stupid reason because they are part of the ingenious dark skin races of Asia.


For example the green shaded colored in this study is distinctive South Indian/Veddoid admixture while the red/purple are East Eurasian admixture. Red admixture is East Asian/Southeast Asia while pink is purple.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x6Y4ZgFsZdY/TTERAYPRl2I/AAAAAAAAAfQ/vYvQLuTTMtE/s1600/AAIndia.jpg

Veddoid is generally grouped together with Oceanian Australoids, Onge, Andamanese in many chart but sometimes as

I've seen studies where they put Indians as 40% East Asian due to Veddoid admixture

Haplogroup F and Q are both dinstic markers. Haplogroup Q evolved in Siberia not in South Asia. Haplogroup F also have many ancestors markers but they all evolved differently in the end.

Anti-Indians like magnus think Veddoid is related to Onge, which it absolutely is not. He also actually believes Italians let alone Europeans are somehow more racially pure than Gujaratis and other Indo-Aryans who've had caste endogamy for 100+ generations.

[Harkonnen]

Why the hell are you taking about F?

What is interesting is haplogroup P (ancestor of Q an R) which is found in Negrito populations of South East Asia. This is very strong indicator that both R and Q originated in South East Asia

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xIyCVSPSm3I/U5LqVD5nawI/AAAAAAAACsM/TEjs1OTRu7k/s1600/Karafet-Y-DNA-K-tree-annotated.png

[ButlerKing]

To be honest there still are many Indian tribal tribes I haven't heard of before, you almost never hear these sub-tribes in the media or social media. Some of the tribes I heard of them before but never bother to check what linguistic groups or history they have because just SO MANY (and sadly lack of the data on them ). I've seen plenty in genetic studies of their names but I still don't to learn more about their origins and there's no data available. ONE THING'S FOR SURE..... they definitely are not part of the indo-aryan genetic clusters from their DNA studies are just Adavasi-related people like the Gond people of Gujarat who don't speak a Indo-Aryan language like other tribes, physically they look no different but speak a western Indo-Aryan language. It's more likely they were absorbed by the Gujarat sultanate and became aryanized linguistically.

You are correct that the Chaudhari is part of the Bhil western Indo-Aryan linguistic group but physically they are a Adavasi looking ethnic group like the Gond people.

Bhil people

They are just a Adavasi caste speaking a Indo-Aryan language

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Girl_in_orange_dress%2C_Gauhadi_village.jpg/160px-Girl_in_orange_dress%2C_Gauhadi_village.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Children_in_Raisen_district%2C_MP%2C_India.jpg/210px-Children_in_Raisen_district%2C_MP%2C_India.jpg
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DND6A2/man-and-woman-standing-bhil-tribe-zabua-district-madhya-pradesh-india-DND6A2.jpg

[Fractal]

To be honest there still are many Indian tribal tribes I haven't heard of before, you almost never hear these sub-tribes in the media or social media. Some of the tribes I heard of them before but never bother to check what linguistic groups or history they have because just SO MANY (and sadly lack of the data on them ). I've seen plenty in genetic studies of their names but I still don't to learn more about their origins and there's no data available. ONE THING'S FOR SURE..... they definitely are not part of the indo-aryan genetic clusters from their DNA studies are just Adavasi-related people like the Gond people of Gujarat who don't speak a Indo-Aryan language like other tribes, physically they look no different but speak a western Indo-Aryan language. It's more likely they were absorbed by the Gujarat sultanate and became aryanized linguistically.

You are correct that the Chaudhari is part of the Bhil western Indo-Aryan linguistic group but physically they are a Adavasi looking ethnic group like the Gond people.

Bhil people

They are just a Adavasi caste speaking a Indo-Aryan language

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Girl_in_orange_dress%2C_Gauhadi_village.jpg/160px-Girl_in_orange_dress%2C_Gauhadi_village.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Children_in_Raisen_district%2C_MP%2C_India.jpg/210px-Children_in_Raisen_district%2C_MP%2C_India.jpg
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DND6A2/man-and-woman-standing-bhil-tribe-zabua-district-madhya-pradesh-india-DND6A2.jpg

These Indian tribals are more racially pure than westerners, since they've intermarried within their own clans for millenia. And South Indian tribal castes even have R1a which proves R1a-Z93 is Indian in origin.

[EL_BARBARO]

Why are you discussing this bullshit?

Help me out with this fat fuck dago spic mutant tard anti-Hindu cyber terrorist called Magnus Aurelius, and all the terroristic MENAs, southern europeans and few latino beaners who support him.

Anti-Hindu, anti-Indo-Aryan sentiment is alive and well.


You dig your own hole talking like that, Fractal.

[EL_BARBARO]

These Indian tribals are more racially pure than westerners, since they've intermarried within their own clans for millenia. And South Indian tribal castes even have R1a which proves R1a-Z93 is Indian in origin.


They'll be racially pure. I won't deny it. But they're as ugly as sin.

[Fractal]

You dig your own hole talking like that, Fractal.

True.

[MagnusAurelius]

These Indian tribals are more racially pure than westerners, since they've intermarried within their own clans for millenia. And South Indian tribal castes even have R1a which proves R1a-Z93 is Indian in origin.

They all clearly look mixed race with high indigenous admixture you deluded moron. Doesn't matter, the initial mixing was massive and the castes/ethnic groups who formed after wards when mass endogamy started all had this admixture.

[Fractal]

They all clearly look mixed race with high indigenous admixture you deluded moron. Doesn't matter, the initial mixing was massive and the castes/ethnic groups who formed after wards when mass endogamy started all had this admixture.

You are absolutely incorrect, it's the tribal Indians who have caste Indian admixture not vice versa. Keep dreaming.

You're the non-Aryan mischling in this discussion. not me. hahaha you lose non-Aryan.

(Aryan is an ethnolinguistic term for all Hindus)

[MagnusAurelius]

You are absolutely incorrect, it's the tribal Indians who have caste Indian admixture not vice versa. Keep dreaming.

You're the non-Aryan mischling in this discussion. not me. hahaha you lose non-Aryan.

(Aryan is an ethnolinguistic term for all Hindus)

I know dealing with your autism and aspergers must be a great struggle for you in life. As always, nothing you say is backed up with any fact, you are non-Aryan by virtue of having 20-28% Non-Caucasoid admixture, all IndoEuropeans were 98-100% Caucasoid. Dreaming? You think those people who look highly mixed are racially pure, you live in a fantasy dream world where Out of India is true, R1a comes from India (when no R1a was even found at the indus valley site among the skeletal remains) and that Indians are racially pure, more so than all Europeans. Have fun with your inferiority complex, the facts I present stand unchallenged by any cohesive rebuttal, you are debunked low life.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?219466-The-Truth-Comes-Out-About-These-quot-Hindu-Nationalists-quot-Fractal-Is-Destroyed/page8 FRACTAL IN DENIAL OF BEING A MIXED RACE MUTT, ALL HE CAN DO IS REPEAT THINGS! HE NEVER HAS PROOF! WEAK TRIGGERED TROLLED AUTISTIC MIXED RACE MUTT


You will literally respond to me for 5+ hours because you are so bothered what I say spending your free time on a Internet forum for hours, haha, pathetic.

[Fractal]

I know dealing with your autism and aspergers must be a great struggle for you in life. As always, nothing you say is backed up with any fact, you are non-Aryan by virtue of having 20-28% Non-Caucasoid admixture, all IndoEuropeans were 98-100% Caucasoid. Dreaming? You think those people who look highly mixed are racially pure, you live in a fantasy dream world where Out of India is true, R1a comes from India (when no R1a was even found at the indus valley site among the skeletal remains) and that Indians are racially pure, more so than all Europeans. Have fun with your inferiority complex, the facts I present stand unchallenged by any cohesive rebuttal, you are debunked low life.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?219466-The-Truth-Comes-Out-About-These-quot-Hindu-Nationalists-quot-Fractal-Is-Destroyed/page8 FRACTAL IN DENIAL OF BEING A MIXED RACE MUTT, ALL HE CAN DO IS REPEAT THINGS! HE NEVER HAS PROOF! WEAK TRIGGERED TROLLED AUTISTIC MIXED RACE MUTT


You will literally respond to me for 5+ hours because you are so bothered what I say spending your free time on a Internet forum for hours, haha, pathetic.

1. R1a is Indian in origin, the oldest samples of R1a-Z93 are found in India and estimated to be over 15,000 years old

2. There was never any mixing between caste Indians and tribals, you are absolutely wrong. Patels, Brahmins, Kshatriyas, etc are all caste Indians who are found in Gujarat. My family is friends with loads of Gujarati Brahmins as well as Patels. We have travelled to Gujarat and know precisely the separation between mainstream caste Indians and scheduled tribes. It's the tribal castes who have admixture with mainstream caste Indians, not vice versa.

3. Indians first coined the term Aryan, and there was never any Aryan Invasion. The Aryan Invasion Theory been disproven by the Out of India theory although more research still needs to be understaken in order to confirm it. The Indo-Aryans (whom are just Indians) originated in India. There was no outside invasions of any Central Asian Steppe invaders, only later invasions of Scythians, Huns, Mongols, Persians, Arabs, Greeks, Brits, Hepthalites, Portuguese, Afghans, Sakhas, Pashtuns, etc

4. Indians are no more mixed than Europeans. We are neither Caucasian nor mixed. We are Indic which is quite similar. Indians are their own race, and we like our Indic looks.

5. Indians look down upon non-Indian scum like you. Fact.

[The Sun King]

Gentlemen please. Let's get along here.