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de Burgh II
08-30-2017, 07:34 PM
From MDLP k16 Modern:

These 16 component are briefly described below as follows:

Amerindian - a component, which is modal (i.e has a peak) in various native American groups of North and South America, as well as in ancient DNA of Native Americans (Clovis, Kennewick man, etc).

Ancestor - an archaic component, detected in modern African Pygmy populations (such as Mbuties and Biaka) and Khoisan hunter-gatherers.

Steppe - a component which was sourced from ancient genome of European Bronze Age pastoralists: it roughly approximates levels of ancient North Eurasian hunter-gatherers' heritage, which was subsequently shown to have an influence in later eastern hunter-gatherers and to have spread into Europe via an incursion of Steppe herders beginning ∼4,500 years ago.

Indian - a component of ancestry harboured by populations of Indian subcontinent

Arctic - a component displayed in genomes of Eskimo Inuits from Greenland and shared with Siberian Chukchis/Koryaks.

Australian - a component of aboriginal ancestry assigned to Australian aborigens.

Caucasian (Steppe) - a major component of ancestry of modern inhabitants of Caucasus, Iran and northern Indian : it was derived from genomes of mesolithic Caucasian Hunter-gatherers: a major ancestral component linked to CHG was carried west and east by migrating herders from the Eurasian Steppe.

EastAfrican - a very dilluted component being inherited specififically from ancient inhabitants of Ethiopia and African Horn

NorthEastEuropean (WHG) - a fancy moniker for a dominant type of ancestry in North-Eastern Europe based on older type of ancestry (WHG, west European Hunter-Gatherer), today this type of ancestry peaks in the Baltic region and Scandinavia

NearEast (Basal Eurasian) - a component harboured and later carried by ancient populations of Near East, in our time it reaches the maximum among Bedoins and Saudi Arabians; the component seems to carry an excess of Eurasian Basal component relative to Neolithic component.

Neolithic - a component, modeled on genomes of first neolithic farmers of Anatolia (West Asia), these farmers from West Asia migrated to Europe during the Neolithic and carried this component with them.

NorthAfrican - a local component of ancestry found in North Africans: this local North African genetic component is very different from the one found in the populations in the south of the Sahara (Subsaharian component, see below).

Oceanic - a component of aboriginal ancestry assigned to aborigens of Melanesia and Papua-New-Guinea.

Siberian (ANE) - a component, which is rougly ascribed to Central Siberian (found at highest frequency in Nganasan)

SouthEastAsian - a dominant component of South East Asians: being highest among the Dai, Cambodians, Lahu and Malay, this is the most common East Asian component among South Asians.

Subsaharian - a main component of ancestry seen in Yoruba, Mandenka and Luhya populations.

With all that said and done it can be inferred that Siberian proxy peaking in Nganasans as being a valid source for Mal'ta related ancestry as reiterated below:


We established that Nganasans, Kets, Selkups, and Yukaghirs form a cluster of populations most closely related to Paleo-Eskimos in Siberia (not considering indigenous populations of Chukotka and Kamchatka). Kets are closely related to modern Selkups and to some Bronze and Iron Age populations of the Altai region, with all these groups sharing a high degree of Mal’ta ancestry. [...]

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep20768

Which brings me to this conclusion.

CHG being related to the Steppe component so its probably best to isolate it with the Steppe component.


My results:

Steppe/related components:
Steppe: 24.10
CHG/Caucasian: 17.33
___________________ +
41.43

WHG/NorthEastEuropean: 24.21

ANE/Siberian: 0

Basal Eurasian/Near East: 0.58

Neolithic: 32.40

Kelmendasi
08-30-2017, 07:46 PM
Steppe+CHG= 49.36%
WHG/NE Euro= 15.37%
ANE/Siberian= 0%
Basal Eurasian/Near east= 3.44%
Neolithic= 29.83%

Kriptc06
08-30-2017, 07:59 PM
WHG/NorthEastEuropean: 13.49

ANE/Siberian: 0.15

Basal Eurasian/Near East: 3.68

Neolithic: 25.40

Steppe+CHG: 31.38

Gangrel
08-30-2017, 08:04 PM
Steppe+CHG= 62.60
Neolithic= 13.17
ANE/Siberian= 6.40
Near East= 5.18
WHG/NE Euro= 1.92

firemonkey
08-30-2017, 08:44 PM
WHG/NorthEastEuropean: 27.20

ANE/Siberian: 0

Basal Eurasian/Near East: 0

Neolithic: 27.47


Steppe

Steppe:22.66
CHG/Caucasian:19.43
____________
42.09


Father


WHG/NorthEastEuropean: 26.50

ANE/Siberian: 0.09

Basal Eurasian/Near East: 0

Neolithic: 28.82


Steppe

Steppe: 23.47
CHG/Caucasian: 19.82
_______________
43.29

Yehiel
08-30-2017, 09:27 PM
Steppe+CHG= 44.86%
WHG/NE Euro= 24.23%
ANE/Siberian= 0.8%
Basal Eurasian/Near east= 2.0%
Neolithic= 27.8%

de Burgh II
12-13-2017, 02:45 PM
:dizzy:

:peep:

Kelmendasi
12-13-2017, 04:25 PM
23andme:
Steppe+CHG=51.34%
WHG/NE Euro=13.50%
ANE/Siberian=0%
Basal Eurasian/Near East=2.77%
Neolithic=28.46%

Ftdna:
Steppe+CHG= 49.36%
WHG/NE Euro= 15.37%
ANE/Siberian= 0%
Basal Eurasian/Near east= 3.44%
Neolithic= 29.83%

Hamlet
12-13-2017, 04:29 PM
Steppe + CHG = 45.55%
Neolithic = 26.03%
ANE/Siberian = 0.93%
Near East = 6.91%
WHG/NE Euro = 10.46%

Thracian
12-13-2017, 06:51 PM
Steppe+CHG=48.15
WHG/NE Euro=13.56
ANE/Siberian=1.37
Basal Euroasian/Near East=5.35
Neolithic=22.80

Hamlet
12-13-2017, 07:28 PM
Steppe+CHG=48.15
WHG/NE Euro=13.56
ANE/Siberian=1.37
Basal Euroasian/Near East=5.35
Neolithic=22.80

Er what's your ethnicity, that seems pretty damn close to mine

Congolese Rice
12-29-2017, 03:11 AM
MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Subsaharian 25.40
2 NorthEastEuropean 19.02
3 Neolithic 17.52
4 Steppe 17.20
5 Caucasian 15.64
6 NearEast 2.49
7 Amerindian 1.32

de Burgh II
04-17-2018, 12:12 AM
https://images.rapgenius.com/6b8c71ab9fdad57fa1dc8170459533c0.336x252x126.gif

alnortedelsur
04-17-2018, 04:43 AM
23AndMe:

1 Neolithic 26.99
2 Caucasian 23.9
3 Steppe 16.35
4 NorthEastEuropean 11.48
5 Amerindian 6.28
6 NorthAfrican 4.82
7 Subsaharian 4.73
8 NearEast 3.33
9 EastAfrican 0.83
10 SouthEastAsian 0.6
11 Oceanic 0.42
12 Arctic 0.26

Ancestry DNA:

1 Neolithic 27.83
2 Caucasian 22.65
3 Steppe 16.9
4 NorthEastEuropean 11
5 Amerindian 6.62
6 Subsaharian 5.25
7 NorthAfrican 4.71
8 NearEast 3.51
9 EastAfrican 0.86
10 SouthEastAsian 0.38
11 Arctic 0.29

Norb
05-10-2018, 03:22 PM
is this the correct test? MDLP K16 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle
MDLP K16 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 32.59
2 NorthEastEuropean 25.51
3 Steppe 22.39
4 Caucasian 18.32

frankhammer
05-10-2018, 04:14 PM
Steppe related
3 Steppe 22.52
4 Caucasian 20.27

total 42.79

1 Neolithic 29.48
2 WHG/NorthEastEuropean 27.42

5 Amerindian 0.23
6 NearEast 0.09

de Burgh II
05-10-2018, 04:17 PM
is this the correct test? MDLP K16 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle
MDLP K16 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 32.59
2 NorthEastEuropean 25.51
3 Steppe 22.39
4 Caucasian 18.32

https://media.giphy.com/media/xKy2w6LehxxHa/giphy.gif

Bunalim
05-10-2018, 06:21 PM
Caucasian 39.34
Neolithic 22.94
Steppe 19.51
NorthEastEuropean 11.93
NearEast 2.17

Total: 84%

Profileid
05-10-2018, 06:35 PM
Neolithic=27.14
WHG=26.45

Steppe(25.57)+CHG(17.59)=43.16

Pahli
05-10-2018, 06:40 PM
Caucasian 50.89 + Steppe 12 = 62.89
Neolithic 11.17
NearEast 6.52
NE_European / WHG: 1.48
Siberian/ANE: 0.69

Chaos One
05-10-2018, 06:47 PM
Steppe 12.61
Caucasian 22.83
NEE 9.84
NearEast 0.99
Neolithic 22.49

Total : 68.76

Leto
05-10-2018, 06:52 PM
# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 31.01
2 Neolithic 21.69
3 Steppe 21.22
4 Caucasian 19.69

Ylla
05-10-2018, 06:52 PM
Caucasian 35.87
Neolithic 29.84
Steppe 15.21
NorthEastEuropean 14.8
NearEast 3.26
NorthAfrican 1.02

Böri
05-10-2018, 07:13 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 42.85
2 Neolithic 12.14
3 Steppe 11.63
4 Siberian 10.69

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk (Aydin) 5.97
2 Turk (Balikesir) 6.31
3 Azerbaijani_Agdzhabedi (Azerbaijan_Agdzhabedi) 8.25
4 Turk (Turkey) 8.47

Profileid
05-10-2018, 07:16 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 42.85
2 Neolithic 12.14
3 Steppe 11.63
4 Siberian 10.69

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk (Aydin) 5.97
2 Turk (Balikesir) 6.31
3 Azerbaijani_Agdzhabedi (Azerbaijan_Agdzhabedi) 8.25
4 Turk (Turkey) 8.47

Why not post your fulll oracle.:D

Böri
05-10-2018, 07:18 PM
Why not post your fulll oracle.:D

Everyone so far cutting short. Wanna see all?
You welcome:


MDLP K16 Modern


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 42.85
2 Neolithic 12.14
3 Steppe 11.63
4 Siberian 10.69
5 Indian 8.25
6 NearEast 4.67
7 SouthEastAsian 4.1
8 NorthEastEuropean 4.08
9 Arctic 1.3
10 Australian 0.26
11 NorthAfrican 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk (Aydin) 5.97
2 Turk (Balikesir) 6.31
3 Azerbaijani_Agdzhabedi (Azerbaijan_Agdzhabedi) 8.25
4 Turk (Turkey) 8.47
5 Circassian (Circassia) 8.78
6 Kabardin (Kabardino-Balkaria) 8.84
7 Azerbaijani_Khachmaz (Azerbaijan_Khachmaz) 9.05
8 Turk (Istanbul) 9.78
9 Turk (Adana) 10.2
10 Azerbaijani (Azerbaijan) 10.25
11 Azeri (Azerbaijan) 10.82
12 Nogai (Dagestan) 11.27
13 Turk (Kayseri) 11.29
14 Greek (Azov) 11.64
15 Turkmens (Turkmenistan) 12.39
16 Kumyk (Stalskoe) 12.4
17 Azerbaijani_Dagestan (Azerbaijan_Dagestan) 12.48
18 Ossetian (North_Ossetia) 12.51
19 Iraki (Irak) 12.95
20 Avar (Dagestan_Shangoda) 13.04

PoliAussie
05-22-2018, 09:30 AM
# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 27.79
2 NorthEastEuropean 27.38
3 Caucasian 24.01
4 Steppe 19.64
5 Oceanic 0.72
6 Arctic 0.32
7 NearEast 0.09
8 NorthAfrican 0.05

Congolese Rice
05-22-2018, 09:53 PM
Steppe+CHG= 32.89%
WHG/NE Euro= 18.99%
ANE/Siberian/Amerindian= 2.44%
Basal Eurasian/Near Eastern= 2.54%
Neolithic= 17.47%
African: 25.41%

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so i assume this means:

51.85% European

25.70% African (-4% North African, belonging to my MENA component, it's proven i have North african ancestry that belongs 2 my general african) so 21.70% West africa

24.01% MENA

2.44% Asian/Amerindian


or am i incorrect? my MENA is in the 20%+ range so i assume my Neolithic is actually my Arab ancestry sucked into the Neolithic component? idk haha

Leto
05-26-2018, 09:32 PM
An actual Steppe guy (Yamnaya Karagash (Central Kazakhstan), ~4,900 bp)

Kit EC6128480

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Steppe 35.63
2 NorthEastEuropean 25.78
3 Caucasian 20.89
4 Indian 14.69
5 Amerindian 2.11
6 Arctic 0.48
7 Neolithic 0.42

oszkar07
07-10-2018, 09:39 PM
Steppe 21.38
Caucasian 20.68
= 42.06

NorthEastEuropean 27.89
Neolithic 27.83
Siberian 0.55
NearEast 0.93

Sp_loa
07-10-2018, 09:51 PM
Population
Steppe 10.79
Caucasian 39.82
EastAfrican 0.96
NorthEastEuropean 2.59
NearEast 11.40
Neolithic 21.23
NorthAfrican 11.18
Subsaharian 2.03

Total: 85.83%

GreentheViper
07-12-2018, 01:20 AM
Steppe: 16.38
CHG/Caucasian: 11.92
= 28.3

WHG/NorthEast European: 15.90

ANE/Siberian: 1.48

Near East: 0.00

Neolithic: 19.06

paradox
07-14-2018, 12:53 PM
Steppe 16.01 + CHG 36.28 = 52.29
WHG/NE Euro 14.40
ANE/Siberian 0
Basal Eurasian/Near East 5.05
Neolithic 25.39


Father's

Steppe 18.67 + CHG 30.35 = 49.02
WHG/NE Euro 18.72
ANE/Siberian 0
Basal Eurasian/Near East 3.94
Neolithic 26.88


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Coastal Elite
02-13-2019, 01:35 AM
Steppe+CHG= 47.34%
WHG/NE Euro= 20.85%
ANE/Siberian= 0%
Basal Eurasian/Near east= 0%
Neolithic= 28.98%

Zroota
10-23-2019, 09:41 AM
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 51.2
2 Neolithic 15.41
3 NearEast 11.13
4 Steppe 11.03
5 Indian 7.08
6 NorthAfrican 2.07
7 NorthEastEuropean 1.8
8 Siberian 0.28

dududud
10-23-2019, 10:32 AM
Father:
Neolithic 32.31
NorthEastEuropean 23.6
Caucasian 21.3
Steppe 20.88

Mother:
Neolithic 37.44
Caucasian 25.37
Steppe 16.46
NorthEastEuropean 15.75
NearEast 1.8

Me:
Neolithic 35.09
Caucasian 24.54
Steppe 19.31
NorthEastEuropean 18.26
NearEast 1.26

Kamal900
10-23-2019, 12:08 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 48.70
2 NearEast 15.39
3 Neolithic 14.49
4 Steppe 7.96
5 Indian 4.41
6 NorthAfrican 4.01
7 EastAfrican 1.42

SUPREEEEEME
10-23-2019, 12:33 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.87
2 Neolithic 23.88
3 Steppe 13.37
4 NorthEastEuropean 9.25
5 NearEast 8.49
6 NorthAfrican 3.85
7 Oceanic 1.19
8 SouthEastAsian 0.98
9 EastAfrican 0.66
10 Arctic 0.4
11 Indian 0.06

WhatsGoingOnBigGuy
10-23-2019, 12:55 PM
# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 28.26
2 Neolithic 27.7
3 Steppe 21.77
4 Caucasian 18.86
5 Amerindian 1.04
6 Ancestor 1.03
7 Arctic 0.9
8 Siberian 0.43

Impaler
10-23-2019, 01:18 PM
Steppe+CHG=44.81
WHG/NE Euro=16.45
ANE/Siberian=1.41
Basal Euroasian/Near East=3.89
Neolithic=21.49

Helen
01-03-2020, 04:51 PM
Steppe+CHG= 39.86%
Neolithic= 34.96%
WHG/NE Euro= 16.06%
Basal Eurasian/Near east= 3.07%
ANE/Siberian= 0%

Kyp
01-03-2020, 05:00 PM
Steppe+CHG= 54.27%
Neolithic= 17.88%
WHG/NE Euro= 13.32%
Basal Eurasian/Near east= 1.12%
Siberian= 1.37%

Ritz06
01-03-2020, 05:18 PM
Steppe+CHG=19.81+34.38= 54,19
WHG/NE Euro=14.70
ANE/Siberian=0
Basal Euroasian/Near East=1.15
Neolithic=19.73

= 89,77

Centurion
01-03-2020, 06:10 PM
# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 31.84
2 NorthEastEuropean 24.19
3 Steppe 23.21
4 Caucasian 18.79
5 Indian 1.16
6 EastAfrican 0.39
7 NearEast 0.21
8 NorthAfrican 0.21

Daos777
03-10-2020, 07:33 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 29.41
2 Caucasian 23.23
3 Neolithic 22.83
4 Steppe 20.88
5 Siberian 1.59


My CHG is pretty high

dududud
03-10-2020, 07:55 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 29.41
2 Caucasian 23.23
3 Neolithic 22.83
4 Steppe 20.88
5 Siberian 1.59


My CHG is pretty high

Is this Caucasus Hunter Gatherer?

Nomansman
03-10-2020, 08:04 PM
CHG/Steppe= 36,33%+15,99%= 52,31%

WHG/NE-euro= 6,78%

Basa eurasian/Near east= 2,46%

ANE/siberian= 2,09%


Neolithic= 1,53%

Korialstrasz
03-10-2020, 08:16 PM
Steppe+CHG= 19.92 + 43.39 = 63.31 %
WHG/NE Euro= 9.55 %
ANE/Siberian= 0.96 %
Basal Eurasian/Near east= 1.04 %
Neolithic= 17.00 %

Daos777
03-10-2020, 08:31 PM
Is this Caucasus Hunter Gatherer?

Yeah. Yamnaya were roughly 50 percent CHG

Impaler
03-10-2020, 08:53 PM
Steppe+CHG: 50.04%
WHG/NE Euro: 15.42%
ANE/Siberian: 2.55%
Basal Euroasian/Near East: 3.57%
Neolithic: 18.81%

**JC**
03-14-2020, 10:52 AM
Steppe+CHG: 41.09%
Neolithic: 29.17%
WHG/NE Euro: 27.76%
ANE/Siberian: 0%
Basal Euroasian/Near East: 0%

Chris596
07-27-2020, 03:43 PM
Steppe: 17.26%
Caucasian: 31.04%
Neolithic: 25.96%
ANE: 14.80%
Siberian: 2.10%

Rgvgjhvv
07-27-2020, 03:50 PM
Steppe: 17.26%
Caucasian: 31.04%
Neolithic: 25.96%
ANE: 14.80%
Siberian: 2.10%

Higher Siberian than @Thracian?

Chris596
07-27-2020, 03:54 PM
Higher Siberian than @Thracian?

Well, GEDmatch gives me this result. Also, Thracian posted in 2017 so probably GEDmatch is different now or idk. Our Siberian+East Asian result is also similar on Eurogenes K13.

Edit: I'm also half Szekely Hungarian, full Szekelys can have more Siberian and East Asian ancestry than Balkan Turks. My father (Szekely Hungarian) is just as Turkic as Thracian for example.

RatCat
08-23-2020, 08:20 PM
Steppe+CHG=70.56
WHG/NE Euro=2.48
Siberian= 0
Near East=4.67
Neolithic=13.76

InfamousAngel99
08-24-2020, 01:11 PM
Me:
Steppe/Caucasian: 43.67 (23.49 + 20.18)
WHG/NorthEastEuropean: 24.65
ANE/Siberian: 0
Basal Eurasian/Near East: 0
Neolithic: 30.64

Dad:
Steppe/Caucasian: 44.10 (22.81 + 21.29)
WHG/NorthEastEuropean: 24.13
ANE/Siberian: 0
Basal Eurasian/Near East: 0
Neolithic: 30.06

Mom:
Steppe/Caucasian: 41.80 (22.99 + 18.81)
WHG/NorthEastEuropean: 26.02
ANE/Siberian: 0
Basal Eurasian/Near East: 0
Neolithic: 30.12

Maternal Grandma:
Steppe/Caucasian: 41.71 (21.10 + 20.61)
WHG/NorthEastEuropean: 25.08
ANE/Siberian: 0
Basal Eurasian/Near East: 0
Neolithic: 31.57

someonenotyou
08-24-2020, 11:24 PM
Steppe/Caucasian:42.18(19.16+23.02)
WHG/NorthEastEuropean: 22.83
ANE/Siberian: 0
Basal Eurasian/Near East: 1.73
Neolithic: 25.29

calxpal
08-25-2020, 03:33 AM
Steppe+CHG=44.96
NE Euro/WHG=26.13
ANE/Siberian=0.91
Near East/Basal=0.67
Neolithic=25.39

mitalit
08-25-2020, 09:56 AM
Steppe+CHG= 41,92
WHG/NE Euro= 18.24
ANE/Siberian= 0.72
Basal Euroasian/Near East= 1.44
Neolithic= 32.35

Defcon2
08-25-2020, 10:24 AM
Steppe+CHG= 42.38
WHG/NE Euro= 14.02
ANE/Siberian= 0
Basal Eurasian/Near east= 0
Neolithic= 35.98

Götterfunke
08-25-2020, 11:18 AM
1 Neolithic 28.42
2 Caucasian 26.59
3 NorthEastEuropean 23.71
4 Steppe 18.65
5 Amerindian 0.92
6 NorthAfrican 0.89
7 Australian 0.8
8 NearEast 0.02

Mhorstemeyer
11-14-2020, 07:48 PM
I was adopted from Poland.
NorthEastEuropean 32.83
2 Steppe 23.24
3 Neolithic 23.08
4 Caucasian 19.79
5 Siberian 1
6 SouthEastAsian 0.07

Leto
11-14-2020, 07:51 PM
I was adopted from Poland.
NorthEastEuropean 32.83
2 Steppe 23.24
3 Neolithic 23.08
4 Caucasian 19.79
5 Siberian 1
6 SouthEastAsian 0.07
Hello and welcome! You should've started with Eurogenes K13 which is the most popular calculator :cool:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?282351-Post-Eurogenes-K13-Fresh-thread/page40