Is there undergoing a plan to deport Roma to India?

[Mortimer]

I was informed there is a hidden plan by many right and far right activists across Europe to deport all Roma to India. The plan is not covered by the media and its secret. There are talks undergoing with the indian government. From facebook written by a friend who knows more then me.


It is already known that a whole collective of right-wing politicians across Europe are advocating a forced mass deportation of us to India, and there is evidence of underhand dealings going on with the Indian government -- who evidently want a quid pro quo if they are going to have ten million additional Dalits dumped on them. It seems to me inconceivable that we would be welcomed as honoured citizens given our low-caste origins and particularly so if we are deported by force; no-one ever wants deportees.

[zhaoyun]

I seriously doubt this will happen

[Mortimer]

I seriously doubt this will happen

i hope you are right.

[Purohit ji]

no problem. your welcome. but without hard work no one can live a descent life in india. govt dont help like that in the west

[TheForeigner]

Nah, it's too good to be true.

[Fractal]

Nah, it's too good to be true.

Yeah it would be like the Brits coming to learn they get to deport every Pole and Romanian from the UK.

[EL_BARBARO]

I don't think so.

[EL_BARBARO]

Yeah it would be like the Brits coming to learn they get to deport every Pole and Romanian from the UK.


Poles and Romanians are citizens of European countries.

IF UK would do it, a huge international crisis would blow up.

In a worst case scenario, UK wouldn't allow or limit more immigrantion from any country into the UK, but not massive expulsions of european citizens.

[EL_BARBARO]

Yeah it would be like the Brits coming to learn they get to deport every Pole and Romanian from the UK.


Poles and Romanians are citizens of European countries.

IF UK did it, a huge international crisis would blow up.

In a worst case scenario, UK wouldn't allow or limit more immigrantion from any country into the UK, but not massive expulsions of european citizens.

[Graecian]

One can only wish.

[Jehan]

Poles and Romanians are citizens of European countries.

IF UK would do it, a huge international crisis would blow up.


With the Brexit, it's a plausible scenari.
And it's even more realist that UK government might canalize xenophobia against muslims and pakistanis too eastern european.


Anyway too answear OP question. No the only one who want to deport gypsy are far right organizations and none hold political power in any countries of europe.
It's more possible that gypsy will face some attack in Bulgaria or Romania and police cloose their eyes in the events.

[Fractal]

Poles and Romanians are citizens of European countries.

IF UK would do it, a huge international crisis would blow up.

In a worst case scenario, UK wouldn't allow or limit more immigrantion from any country into the UK, but not massive expulsions of european citizens.

I've been to the UK, there is definite anti-Eastern European sentiment there that doesn't extend to Indians. I never said they'd expel european citizens but many Brits certainly don't want masses of eastern europeans immigrating. I'm talking Poles, Romanians, Hungarians, Russians, etc.

They are seen as undesirables, deal with it.

[EL_BARBARO]

I've been to the UK, there is definite anti-Eastern European sentiment there that doesn't extend to Indians. I never said they'd expel european citizens but many Brits certainly don't want masses of eastern europeans immigrating. I'm talking Poles, Romanians, Hungarians, Russians, etc.

They are seen as undesirables, deal with it.


Deal with it?

What are you talking about?

[turbosat]

Poles and Romanians are citizens of European countries.

IF UK would do it, a huge international crisis would blow up.

In a worst case scenario, UK wouldn't allow or limit more immigrantion from any country into the UK, but not massive expulsions of european citizens.

Roma are also EU countries citizens, and can be UK citizens after living and working in UK for 4 or 5 years.

[EL_BARBARO]

Roma are also EU countries citizens, and can be UK citizens after living and working in UK for 4 or 5 years.


Indeed.

But the difference with the national aboriginal people is that gypsies dont want usually to get assimilated into their respective societies.

A similar case to Pakis and Indians in UK, especially muslims.

[catgeorge]

The amount of Blacks, Indians and Pakistanis in England is sad. It has become the dumping ground for third worlders like all Anglosphere nations, England, USA, Australia New Zealand and Canada is on fast track to become third world.

[Fractal]

The amount of Blacks, Indians and Pakistanis in England is sad. It has become the dumping ground for third worlders like all Anglosphere nations, England, USA, Australia New Zealand and Canada is on fast track to become third world.

Indians have been in the UK for ages, it's not for you to decide who belongs there since you're a foreigner in all of the Anglosphere nations, as are Romanians.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZohDQ9i73EE/Us3aKoMKu2I/AAAAAAAAAgs/bJPEbPNgqeE/s1600/tr1.jpg

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[TheForeigner]

I've been to the UK, there is definite anti-Eastern European sentiment there that doesn't extend to Indians. I never said they'd expel european citizens but many Brits certainly don't want masses of eastern europeans immigrating. I'm talking Poles, Romanians, Hungarians, Russians, etc.

They are seen as undesirables, deal with it.

You are delusional if you think they would not prefer their country without Indians and Pakistanis. Good to see you get butthurt over Gypsies though. It means you accept them as South Asians.

[Graecian]

Indians have been in the UK for ages, it's not for you to decide who belongs there since you're a foreigner in all of the Anglosphere nations, as are Romanians.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZohDQ9i73EE/Us3aKoMKu2I/AAAAAAAAAgs/bJPEbPNgqeE/s1600/tr1.jpg

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Irish faced a lot of discrimination too? So what?

Indians DONT BELONG in Europe, end of story.

[Zephyrus]

I was informed there is a hidden plan by many right and far right activists across Europe to deport all Roma to India. The plan is not covered by the media and its secret. There are talks undergoing with the indian government. From facebook written by a friend who knows more then me.

Let me know when there's a hidden plan to deport all Jews to Antarctica.

[Fractal]

You are delusional if you think they would not prefer their country without Indians and Pakistanis. Good to see you get butthurt over Gypsies though. It means you accept them as South Asians.

It doesn't take a PhD psychiatrist to know Indians do far better in Anglosphere countries than you Balkanoids.

Perhaps its cultural and that will change in the near future.

[Antimage]

I was informed there is a hidden plan by many right and far right activists across Europe to deport all Roma to India. The plan is not covered by the media and its secret. There are talks undergoing with the indian government. From facebook written by a friend who knows more then me.

There may be such fantasies in head of some people, I don't see it happening.

[Fractal]

Indians have been in the UK for ages, it's not for you to decide who belongs there since you're a foreigner in all of the Anglosphere nations, as are Romanians.

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[EL_BARBARO]

It doesn't take a PhD psychiatrist to know Indians do far better in Anglosphere countries than you Balkanoids.

Perhaps its cultural and that will change in the near future.


Yes, since the slavery abolition, Indians have been the favourite workforce and servants of the Anglosphere. Indeed.

[EL_BARBARO]

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And now, the anti-Indian facts have been started appearing... in USA and in UK.

Those facts of one hundred years ago shows nothing at all.

[MagnusAurelius]

Indians have been in the UK for ages, it's not for you to decide who belongs there since you're a foreigner in all of the Anglosphere nations, as are Romanians.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZohDQ9i73EE/Us3aKoMKu2I/AAAAAAAAAgs/bJPEbPNgqeE/s1600/tr1.jpg

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Hahahaah, you are 100% deluded. You are typing as if a damn Indian has more right to live in a European nations/European founded nation than another European does, such idiocy. A Greek or Romanian assimilating would be much more accepted and have an easier time assimilating into UK than a Indian does and most Indians just integrate but don't assimilate,stick to their little ethnic enclaves and make their own little Desi world in North America, most Desi people do this and at least 50-60% of the younger 18-35 year old people do this to, exactly why you people are just leeches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix_7p1qczXs

The most iconic speech in British Political history, a man not owned and influenced by hidden elites, part of his iconic speech.

Europeans may have more Cultural diversity compared to you Indians who are primitives divided by Religion, the only thing that really distinguishes between South Asian Cultures is how religion influences them, all the Hindu ethnic group Cultures have nothing unique or special about them, all their Cultures are very similar unlike Europeans who have more Cultural diversity.

[Loki]

I doubt it Mortimer, it sounds very unrealistic. Today's Roma are far more European in culture than they are Indian, since they have been here for so long. India would laugh at such a request.

[crazyladybutterfly]

this ia like saying that many nazis want to exterminate jews , will it ever happen? i highly doubt so

[Lollipop]

I doubt it Mortimer, it sounds very unrealistic. Today's Roma are far more European in culture than they are Indian, since they have been here for so long. India would laugh at such a request.

what is european in their culture?
They are as european as recent immigrants , they know how to use 'technology' but in their behaviour they havent changed a bit.

[Graecian]

what is european in their culture?
They are as european as recent immigrants , they know how to use 'technology' but in their behaviour they havent changed a bit.

And they wont. Social behaviour has a racial source.

[Rumata]

I guess India could make huge money on such a deal if it were to happen.


Today's Roma are far more European in culture than they are Indian, since they have been here for so long.
Gypsies around me usually look about zero European by culture. I guess there should be exceptions but they're not that visible. I can't remember seeing a single culturally European Gypsy IRL.
On the other hand I've watched an Indian film about begging in India...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qupzmnk2FgU

[Seya]

no problem. your welcome. but without hard work no one can live a descent life in india. govt dont help like that in the west

this people love to live like parasites..i doubt indians are ready to work for them. trust me..u don't need this headache as much as i would like this news to be true. this people may have south asian ancestry but they are nothing like indians.
indians are hard workers and peaceful people. gypsies are the exact opposite.

[Loki]

Gypsies around me usually look about zero European by culture. I guess there should be exceptions but they're not that visible. I can't remember seeing a single culturally European Gypsy IRL.
On the other hand I've watched an Indian film about begging in India...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qupzmnk2FgU

I think they could pass in the Balkan.

[Lollipop]

I think they could pass in the Balkan.

They could pass in London just as well.

[Rumata]

I think they could pass in the Balkan.

Balkanits still look like much more law abiding, hard working and overall decent and nice people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT3BpJyKYnk

[Lollipop]

this people love to live like parasites..i doubt indians are ready to work for them. trust me..u don't need this headache as much as i would like this news to be true. this people may have south asian ancestry but they are nothing like indians.
indians are hard workers and peaceful people. gypsies are the exact opposite.

Indians are not hard working people, they are good at pretending that they are hard working people.If they were indeed hard working people, India would be atleast on the level of China.

[Mortimer]

Gypsies around me usually look about zero European by culture. I guess there should be exceptions but they're not that visible. I can't remember seeing a single culturally European Gypsy IRL.
On the other hand I've watched an Indian film about begging in India...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qupzmnk2FgU

I dont know wheter Roma are culturally "European" but if you define European by hard working, law abiding then Chinese and Japanese are the most European people culturally. Also their dress looks pretty European to me. I let anthropologists, sociologists study elements of Roma culture and decide what they are closer to. What you see is only superficial that they pickpocket and begg and you think they are indian, i think crime is common everywhere not only india, begging was also common in Europe, even nomadic lifestyle there were many European Gypsies in the past thats why there are still Irish Travellers and Yeniche around who descendt from those European Nomads and Circus Perfomers, Entertainers, Artists etc. I wont decively say what Roma are "culturally" because Im no expert but my own opinion is that they are more culturally European and more Ottoman and Middle Eastern going down to the Balkans (especially music, dress etc.) then Indian, but have distant indian cultural elements probably.

This looks more turkish or arabic to me culturally then indian.

Gypsy Folk Dance at International Roma Day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf9D2K4viW8

this is definitely southslavic ("kolo")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3QOHerBFHE

[Mortimer]

this again sounds more arabic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFO1lnahusQ

[Rumata]

I dont know wheter Roma are culturally "European" but if you define European by hard working, law abiding then Chinese and Japanese are the most European people culturally. Also their dress looks pretty European to me. I let anthropologists, sociologists study elements of Roma culture and decide what they are closer to. What you see is only superficial that they pickpocket and begg and you think they are indian, i think crime is common everywhere not only india, begging was also common in Europe,

Dances and dresses are superficial. The lifestyle and mentality is what really matters.
You hardly see young European women and children begging on the streets which is common for Gypsies. In the film Slumdog Millionaire it's shown that this kind of begging is also run by criminals in India which isn't common for Europe.


even nomadic lifestyle there were many European Gypsies in the past thats why there are still Irish Travellers and Yeniche around who descendt from those European Nomads and Circus Perfomers, Entertainers, Artists etc.

They are just a drop in the sea of settled Europeans.


I wont decively say what Roma are "culturally" because Im no expert but my own opinion is that they are more culturally European and more Ottoman and Middle Eastern going down to the Balkans (especially music, dress etc.) then Indian, but have distant indian cultural elements probably.


When I see Gypsy children begging in the crowd, they stick out like a sore thumb. You have no doubts they are foreign elements there. Everyone realises it including themselves. Sometimes, they look like they search for something to break, to make harm. Like they are surrounded by the foreign hostile world.
Once I've seen a few of Gypsy kids behaving ordinary on a sports ground, but it was a rare case which took a short time.

[Dick]

No idea. I haven't heard anything through the grapevine yet.

[Fractal]

Indians are not hard working people, they are good at pretending that they are hard working people.If they were indeed hard working people, India would be atleast on the level of China.

Indians are harder working people than Romanians, that much is for sure. Compare Romanians in the UK to the Indians, or Balkanoids in USA/Canada to Indo-Americans. India is plagued by overpopulation and diseases but its still far more powerful than any Balkan country and its the 7th largest economy in the world. It also has nuclear arms and an advanced space industry.

[Vyasa]

this people love to live like parasites..i doubt indians are ready to work for them. trust me..u don't need this headache as much as i would like this news to be true. this people may have south asian ancestry but they are nothing like indians.
indians are hard workers and peaceful people. gypsies are the exact opposite.

They did a lost wallet test where they dropped a wallet in many large cities around the world. Mumbai, India ranked the second most honest city in the world. This is my experience too. Even the poorest slum dwellers in most parts of India are nice people and won't rob you. That's why India's crime rate is so much lower than richer countries in Latin America for instance.


Link to the lost wallet test and results: https://www.rd.com/culture/most-honest-cities-lost-wallet-test/

[Mortimer]

Dances and dresses are superficial. The lifestyle and mentality is what really matters.
You hardly see young European women and children begging on the streets which is common for Gypsies. In the film Slumdog Millionaire it's shown that this kind of begging is also run by criminals in India which isn't common for Europe.



They are just a drop in the sea of settled Europeans.



When I see Gypsy children begging in the crowd, they stick out like a sore thumb. You have no doubts they are foreign elements there. Everyone realises it including themselves. Sometimes, they look like they search for something to break, to make harm. Like they are surrounded by the foreign hostile world.
Once I've seen a few of Gypsy kids behaving ordinary on a sports ground, but it was a rare case which took a short time.

Culture is multifacetted you cant reduce it to begging. I said i dont claim they are european they stick out i said sociologists should decide that but all roma i know despite being distinct and hated have much more in common with eastern europeans then indians. Especially with underclass they work together and even commit crimes together they listen gypsy music and turbofolk. Begging might not be anymore a common sight for europe but it used to be handicapped old and blind used to begg just like in india india also reduced begging by now and its very wrong to reduce indian way of life to begging. India is yoga alternative medicine vegeterianism and respect for family and elders. Roma are from indians they are more close to low class europeans especially from past. Thats my opinion looking at it im not biased they have indian cultural elements too but not only but you said they are zero european. But overall they are foreign sight in modern europe but are also not indian.

[Fractal]

Culture is multifacetted you cant reduce it to begging. I said i dont claim they are european they stick out i said sociologists should decide that but all roma i know despite being distinct and hated have much more in common with eastern europeans then indians. Especially with underclass they work together and even commit crimes together they listen gypsy music and turbofolk. Begging might not be anymore a common sight for europe but it used to be handicapped old and blind used to begg just like in india india also reduced begging by now and its very wrong to reduce indian way of life to begging. India is yoga alternative medicine vegeterianism and respect for family and elders. Roma are from indians they are more close to low class europeans especially from past. Thats my opinion looking at it im not biased they have indian cultural elements too but not only but you said they are zero european. But overall they are foreign sight in modern europe but are also not indian.

Indian-Americans in North America are hands down one of the most affluent and successful ethnicities. Their IQ averages are estimated at 112 which is even higher than Ashnekazis, and based on that approximation I'm gonna have to say Gujaratis and Marathis are easily one of the highest since they're known to be involved in hardware engineering and to own tons of businesses around the USA and Canada. Also, we're the one ethnic group that continues on our Old World traditions and I've never even heard any White Americans speak negatively about our temples or way of dressing.

Navratri celebrations, Diwali, Rakshbhandhan, Indian Independence Day Parades, etc.

[Bobby Martnen]

Indian-Americans in North America are hands down one of the most affluent and successful ethnicities. Their IQ averages are estimated at 112 which is even higher than Ashnekazis, and based on that approximation I'm gonna have to say Gujaratis and Marathis are easily one of the highest since they're known to be involved in hardware engineering and to own tons of businesses around the USA and Canada. Also, we're the one ethnic group that continues on our Old World traditions and I've never even heard any White Americans speak negatively about our temples or way of dressing.

Navratri celebrations, Diwali, Rakshbhandhan, Indian Independence Day Parades, etc.

Indian Americans are almost universally descended from upper class, well educated Indians. That's why they tend to be well-liked

And Gypsies shouldn't be sent "back" to India - that's ridiculous. They've lived in Europe for centuries

[Ujku]

The amount of Blacks, Indians and Pakistanis in England is sad. It has become the dumping ground for third worlders like all Anglosphere nations, England, USA, Australia New Zealand and Canada is on fast track to become third world.

Bro , have you ever been to Athens ?? Pakis and Bangladeshis are taking over.

[Fractal]

Indian Americans are almost universally descended from upper class, well educated Indians. That's why they tend to be well-liked

And Gypsies shouldn't be sent "back" to India - that's ridiculous. They've lived in Europe for centuries

Absolute BS. If this were true, then the the following Indian enclaves would not exist.

1. Schaumburg, Illinois

2. Sunnyvale, California

3. Indian Square, New Jersey

4. Artesia, Los Angeles California

These are all settlings points where Indo-Americans move to when they initially immigrate to the USA, and they aren't affluent by any means although a billion times safer and free of crime than other lower income areas.

After 8-10 years in these "Little Indias" they move to the upper income affluent suburbs where the Whites live.