Persian GEDmatch results

[Babak]

Eurogene K36
Arabian 5.44
Armenian 8.91
Central_African 0.27
East_Central_Euro 0.99
East_Med 14.65
Eastern_Euro 2.83
Near_Eastern 20.03
North_Atlantic 0.74
North_Caucasian 10.95
South_Asian 0.40
South_Central_Asian 27.34
West_African 0.94
West_Caucasian 6.47

HarappaWorld
1 Caucasian 36.46
2 Baloch 27.18
3 SW-Asian 13.7
4 NE-Euro 6.68
5 S-Indian 5.25
6 Mediterranean 4.8
7 E-African 1.52
8 W-African 1.35
9 American 0.75
10 San 0.72
11 Beringian 0.69
12 Siberian 0.48
13 Papuan 0.42


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.9% iranian (behar) + 8.1% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.18
2 95.9% iranian (behar) + 4.1% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.38
3 95.2% iranian (behar) + 4.8% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.4
4 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% russian (hgdp) @ 2.4
5 88.6% iranian (behar) + 11.4% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.41
6 96.3% iranian (behar) + 3.7% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.45
7 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.46
8 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% russian (behar) @ 2.48
9 95.2% iranian (behar) + 4.8% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.5
10 88.2% iranian (behar) + 11.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.53
11 92.5% iranian (behar) + 7.5% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.55
12 95% iranian (behar) + 5% chuvash (behar) @ 2.56
13 95.6% iranian (behar) + 4.4% orcadian (hgdp) @ 2.58
14 95.4% iranian (behar) + 4.6% n-european (xing) @ 2.59
15 95.4% iranian (behar) + 4.6% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 2.59
16 93.7% iranian (behar) + 6.3% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.6
17 92.2% iranian (behar) + 7.8% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.62
18 94.9% iranian (behar) + 5.1% slovenian (xing) @ 2.62
19 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% british (1000genomes) @ 2.64
20 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 2.64

Dodecad K12


1 Caucasus 35.66
2 Gedrosia 26.55
3 Southwest_Asian 14.09
4 North_European 8.17
5 South_Asian 6.03
6 Atlantic_Med 4.64
7 Sub_Saharan 2.21
8 Siberian 1.03
9 East_African 1.02
10 Northwest_African 0.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 27.4% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.68
2 93.1% Iranians (Behar) + 6.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.07
3 92.7% Iranians (Behar) + 7.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.08
4 93.7% Iranians (Behar) + 6.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.13
5 93.1% Iranians (Behar) + 6.9% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.13
6 93.3% Iranians (Behar) + 6.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.14
7 92.9% Iranians (Behar) + 7.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.15
8 93% Iranians (Behar) + 7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.16
9 94.1% Iranians (Behar) + 5.9% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.18
10 77% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 23% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 4.19
11 94.2% Iranians (Behar) + 5.8% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.23
12 94.1% Iranians (Behar) + 5.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.25
13 93.2% Iranians (Behar) + 6.8% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.28
14 75% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 25% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.33
15 92.7% Iranians (Behar) + 7.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.36
16 90.2% Iranians (Behar) + 9.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.53
17 63.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 36.2% Pathan (HGDP) @ 4.53
18 89.9% Iranians (Behar) + 10.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.55
19 87.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.9% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 4.57
20 90.4% Iranians (Behar) + 9.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.6


MDLP K23b

1 Caucasian 33.36
2 South_Central_Asian 27.28
3 Near_East 11.56
4 South_Indian 6.34
5 European_Early_Farmers 4.87
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.77
7 North_African 3.74
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.92
9 Subsaharian 2.26
10 Australoid 1.32
11 Arctic 0.94
12 Khoisan 0.41
13 Archaic_African 0.32
14 East_African 0.31
15 Tungus-Altaic 0.25
16 Amerindian 0.2
17 East_Siberian 0.09
18 Archaic_Human 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian ( ) 5.17
2 Kurd_South ( ) 7
3 Kurd_East ( ) 8.74
4 Kurd ( ) 12.25
5 Kurd_North ( ) 12.56
6 Azeri ( ) 13.11
7 Iraki ( ) 14.02
8 Ain_Touta_WGA ( ) 15.73
9 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 16.18
10 Baku_WGA ( ) 16.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.8% Iranian ( ) + 12.2% Adygei ( ) @ 2.33
2 91.4% Iranian ( ) + 8.6% Abkhasian ( ) @ 2.34
3 88.4% Iranian ( ) + 11.6% North_Ossetian ( ) @ 2.37
4 92% Iranian ( ) + 8% Georgian_Svan ( ) @ 2.37
5 86.1% Iranian ( ) + 13.9% Chechen ( ) @ 2.38
6 85% Iranian ( ) + 15% Kumyk ( ) @ 2.38
7 92.4% Iranian ( ) + 7.6% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) @ 2.39
8 91.6% Iranian ( ) + 8.4% Georgian ( ) @ 2.39
9 92% Iranian ( ) + 8% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) @ 2.39
10 88.8% Iranian ( ) + 11.2% Ossetian ( ) @ 2.4
11 88.3% Iranian ( ) + 11.7% Balkar ( ) @ 2.4
12 91.7% Iranian ( ) + 8.3% Adjara ( ) @ 2.41
13 86.4% Iranian ( ) + 13.6% Kabardin ( ) @ 2.41
14 92.5% Iranian ( ) + 7.5% Georgian_Imereti ( ) @ 2.42
15 85.7% Iranian ( ) + 14.3% Cirkassian ( ) @ 2.46
16 93% Iranian ( ) + 7% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.47
17 88.5% Iranian ( ) + 11.5% Circassian ( ) @ 2.47
18 90.3% Iranian ( ) + 9.7% Kakheti ( ) @ 2.49
19 82% Iranian ( ) + 18% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 2.52
20 91.4% Iranian ( ) + 8.6% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 2.6

Eurogene K15
1 East_Med 31.64
2 West_Asian 31.29
3 South_Asian 12.28
4 Eastern_Euro 7.98
5 Red_Sea 5.15
6 Baltic 4.03
7 Sub-Saharan 2.51
8 Atlantic 2.32
9 West_Med 1.13
10 Amerindian 0.8
11 Northeast_African 0.65
12 Oceanian 0.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95% Iranian + 5% MA-1 @ 3.65
2 96.8% Iranian + 3.2% Erzya @ 4.14
3 98.1% Iranian + 1.9% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 4.15
4 98.1% Iranian + 1.9% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.15
5 98.2% Iranian + 1.8% Biaka_Pygmy @ 4.15
6 98.1% Iranian + 1.9% Luhya @ 4.15
7 98% Iranian + 2% San @ 4.16
8 98.3% Iranian + 1.7% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.16
9 97.2% Iranian + 2.8% Lithuanian @ 4.16
10 98.3% Iranian + 1.7% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.16
11 96.8% Iranian + 3.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.16
12 96.8% Iranian + 3.2% Southwest_Russian @ 4.16
13 97.1% Iranian + 2.9% Estonian_Polish @ 4.18
14 97% Iranian + 3% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.18
15 98.4% Iranian + 1.6% Mandenka @ 4.18
16 98.5% Iranian + 1.5% Yoruban @ 4.19
17 96.9% Iranian + 3.1% Ukrainian @ 4.19
18 97.1% Iranian + 2.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.19
19 97.2% Iranian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 4.2
20 97% Iranian + 3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.22

[Kamal900]

He's genetically pretty native with some steppe and south Asian admixture. Nice results.

[Babak]

He's genetically pretty native with some steppe and south Asian admixture. Nice results.

Eastern euro and NE is rather high for a southern persian. Not sure if its recent or not, but it shows the steppe-admix

[Kamal900]

Eastern euro and NE is rather high for a southern persian. Not sure if its recent or not, but it shows the steppe-admix

Could be perhaps his family were isolated from admixing with others in contrast to other Persians living in other regions of Iran.

[Babak]

Could be perhaps his family were isolated from admixing with others in contrast to other Persians living in other regions of Iran.

Looked up on some replies where it was posted. It looks like its from LNBA/BA steppe ancestry.

[kingjohn]

you got huge south central asia in eurogenes k36 27% :thumb001:
this is the real Aryan component/genes not the fantasy of rethel
cool results
kind regards
adam

[Hadouken]

are these your results ? if yes congrats and can you show eurogenes k13 , puntdnal k15 and k13 , eurasia k9 asi , dodecad v3 . knaht

[gültekin]

Those are the results of a Bakhtiari + Qashqai, not Persian

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?11625-Caucasus-Results-Comparison&p=282073&viewfull=1#post282073

[wvwvw]

The spiteful aremnoid rat (Gultekin) crept out of its hole again to mislead and to slander.

[gültekin]

The spiteful aremnoid rat (Gultekin) crept out of its hole again to mislead and to slander.

Does your butt still hurt? :)))))

Check the link and stfu LOL, those are the results of an anthrogenica member's aunt, the guy is Bakhtiari + Qashqai

[Böri]

I was almost believing 3% ancestral Altaic was Steppe IE :)

https://i.hizliresim.com/1g1Ad5.jpg

[Hadouken]

Those are the results of a Bakhtiari + Qashqai, not Persian

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?11625-Caucasus-Results-Comparison&p=282073&viewfull=1#post282073

do you have gedmatch results of a (full) qashqai by chance ?

[Babak]

Those are the results of a Bakhtiari + Qashqai, not Persian

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?11625-Caucasus-Results-Comparison&p=282073&viewfull=1#post282073

Yea, bakhtiari+qashqai. People dont know who Bakhtiaris or Qashqai's are, so i said persian.

[Babak]

are these your results ? if yes congrats and can you show eurogenes k13 , puntdnal k15 and k13 , eurasia k9 asi , dodecad v3 . knaht

Naw, not mine :P

[gültekin]

do you have gedmatch results of a (full) qashqai by chance ?

I don't, unfortunately.

[Hadouken]

I don't, unfortunately.

https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0274/51/1380334515846.jpg

[Babak]

I don't, unfortunately.

I was hoping the east asian result would be somewhat higher since qashqai's are a turkic group.

[RN97]

Eastern euro and NE is rather high for a southern persian. Not sure if its recent or not, but it shows the steppe-admix

How? Iranians have more steppe than most eastern Europeans.

[Babak]

How? Iranians have more steppe than most eastern Europeans.

Its from ANI, pretty much pseudo.

[gültekin]

I was hoping the east asian result would be somewhat higher since qashqai's are a turkic group.

The Qashqai confederation did not exclusively consist of Turkic tribes, most tribes were Turkic but there were also Lurs as far as I know.

They were relocated from South Azerbaijan/Ardabil to South Iran during the Safavid period so their East Eurasian admixture was not that high from the beginning, judging from modern Azeri results (5-15% East Eurasian). After centuries of living as a Turkic exclave population among Iranian-speakers their East Eurasian admixture must have become even more diluted.

[Pahli]

How? Iranians have more steppe than most eastern Europeans.

Only certain ones like East Iranians; Pashtuns, Tajiks and Pamiris have quite high Steppe compared to Persians and other West Iranic groups.

Eastern Europeans have more Steppe than West Iranic groups

[Babak]

The Qashqai confederation did not exclusively consist of Turkic tribes, most tribes were Turkic but there were also Lurs as far as I know.

They were relocated from South Azerbaijan/Ardabil to South Iran during the Safavid period so their East Eurasian admixture was not that high from the beginning, judging from modern Azeri results (5-15% East Eurasian). After centuries of living as an exclave Turkic-speaking population among Iranians their East Eurasian admixture must have become even more diluted.

Aah, i see

[meisje]

Not so muchPersian results on the Internet,I want to see more results of Ethnic Persians from Iran

[Babak]

Not so much Iranian results on the Internet,I want to see more results of Ethnic Persians from Iran

Same lol ive been tryng to look for more, but ill probably get a 23ndme soon

[gültekin]

"To survive, nomads have always been obliged to fight. They lead a wandering life and do not accumulate documents and archives.
But in the evenings, around fires that are burning low, the elders will relate striking events, deeds of valour in which the tribes pride themselves. Thus the epic tale is told from father to son, down through the ages.

The tribes of Central Asia were forced by wars, strife, upheavals, to abandon their steppes and seek new pasture grounds...so the Huns, the Visigoths, and before them the Aryans, had invaded India, Iran, Europe.
The Turks, forsaking the regions where they had dwelt for centuries, started moving down through the Altai Mountains and Caspian depressions, establishing themselves eventually on the frontiers of the Iranian Empire and in Asia Minor.
We are of Turkish language and race; some say that we are descendants of the Turkish Oghuz Tribe, known for its cruelty and fierceness, and that our name is derived from the Turkish "Kashka" meaning "a horse with a white star on its forehead". Others think this name indicates that we came from Kashgar in the wake of Hulagu. Others still that it means "fugitive".

Though these versions differ, we believe that the arrival of our Tribes in Iran coincided with the conquests of Jengis Khan, in the thirteenth century. Soon after, our ancestors established themselves on the slopes of the Caucasus. We are descendants of the "Tribe of the Ak Koyunlu" the "Tribe of the White Sheep" famed for being the only tribe in history capable of inflicting a defeat on Tamerlane. For centuries we dwelt on the lands surrounding Ardebil, but, in the first half of the sixteenth century we settled in southern Persia, Shah Ismail having asked our warriors to defend this part of the country against the intrusions of the Portuguese. Thus, our Tribes came to the Province of Fars, near the Persian Gulf, and are still only separated from it by a ridge of mountains, the Makran.
The yearly migrations of the Kashkai, seeking fresh pastures, drive them from the south to the north, where they move to their summer quarters "Yailaq" in the high mountains; and from the north to the south, to their winter quarters, "Qishlaq".
In summer, the Kashkai flocks graze on the slopes of the Kuh-è-Dinar; a group of mountains from 12,000 to 15,000 feet, that are part of the Zagros chain.
In autumn the Kashkai break camp, and by stages leave the highlands. They winter in the warmer regions near Firuzabad, Kazerun, Jerrè, Farashband, on the banks of the river Mound, till, in April, they start once more on their yearly trek.
The migration is organised and controlled by the Kashkai Chief. The Tribes carefully avoid villages and towns such as Shiraz and Isfahan, lest their flocks, estimated at seven million head, might cause serious damage. The annual migration is the largest of any Persian tribe.
It is difficult to give exact statistics, but we believe that the Tribes now number 400,000 men, women and children."

Told to Marie-Tèrése Ullens de Schooten by the 'Il Begh' Malek Mansur, brother of the 'Il Khan', Nasser Khan, Chief of the Kashkai Tribes, in 1953

[gültekin]

Same lol ive been tryng to look for more, but ill probably get a 23ndme soon

Are you full Persian? From what I have seen Gilakis and Mazandaranis have Caucasus-shift compared to Persians to the south, but Persians also differ depending on their regions.

[gültekin]

I don't know why but there is no Persian average on spreadsheets, "Iranian" average contains non-Persians too. I would like to see an average consisted exclusively of ethnic Persians.

[Hadouken]

Babak do a test fagget

[Babak]

Are you full Persian? From what I have seen Gilakis and Mazandaranis have Caucasus-shift compared to Persians to the south, but Persians also differ depending on their regions.

Not full persian. Fathers side are originally from Iranian azerbaijan and settled in Tehran sometime a few hundred years ago. Mothers side are persians but i suspect some azeri since some of her family members came from Baku during the qajar period. Strangely some of my moms aunts speak broken azeri lol

[Babak]

"To survive, nomads have always been obliged to fight. They lead a wandering life and do not accumulate documents and archives.
But in the evenings, around fires that are burning low, the elders will relate striking events, deeds of valour in which the tribes pride themselves. Thus the epic tale is told from father to son, down through the ages.

The tribes of Central Asia were forced by wars, strife, upheavals, to abandon their steppes and seek new pasture grounds...so the Huns, the Visigoths, and before them the Aryans, had invaded India, Iran, Europe.
The Turks, forsaking the regions where they had dwelt for centuries, started moving down through the Altai Mountains and Caspian depressions, establishing themselves eventually on the frontiers of the Iranian Empire and in Asia Minor.
We are of Turkish language and race; some say that we are descendants of the Turkish Oghuz Tribe, known for its cruelty and fierceness, and that our name is derived from the Turkish "Kashka" meaning "a horse with a white star on its forehead". Others think this name indicates that we came from Kashgar in the wake of Hulagu. Others still that it means "fugitive".

Though these versions differ, we believe that the arrival of our Tribes in Iran coincided with the conquests of Jengis Khan, in the thirteenth century. Soon after, our ancestors established themselves on the slopes of the Caucasus. We are descendants of the "Tribe of the Ak Koyunlu" the "Tribe of the White Sheep" famed for being the only tribe in history capable of inflicting a defeat on Tamerlane. For centuries we dwelt on the lands surrounding Ardebil, but, in the first half of the sixteenth century we settled in southern Persia, Shah Ismail having asked our warriors to defend this part of the country against the intrusions of the Portuguese. Thus, our Tribes came to the Province of Fars, near the Persian Gulf, and are still only separated from it by a ridge of mountains, the Makran.
The yearly migrations of the Kashkai, seeking fresh pastures, drive them from the south to the north, where they move to their summer quarters "Yailaq" in the high mountains; and from the north to the south, to their winter quarters, "Qishlaq".
In summer, the Kashkai flocks graze on the slopes of the Kuh-è-Dinar; a group of mountains from 12,000 to 15,000 feet, that are part of the Zagros chain.
In autumn the Kashkai break camp, and by stages leave the highlands. They winter in the warmer regions near Firuzabad, Kazerun, Jerrè, Farashband, on the banks of the river Mound, till, in April, they start once more on their yearly trek.
The migration is organised and controlled by the Kashkai Chief. The Tribes carefully avoid villages and towns such as Shiraz and Isfahan, lest their flocks, estimated at seven million head, might cause serious damage. The annual migration is the largest of any Persian tribe.
It is difficult to give exact statistics, but we believe that the Tribes now number 400,000 men, women and children."

Told to Marie-Tèrése Ullens de Schooten by the 'Il Begh' Malek Mansur, brother of the 'Il Khan', Nasser Khan, Chief of the Kashkai Tribes, in 1953

Yea there aren't that many of them.

http://www.allempires.com/Uploads/Qashqai_Nomad.jpg

http://fr.academic.ru/pictures/frwiki/81/Qashqai_women_spinning.jpg

[flowingriver]

2-3% nigger ancestry I see. I'd kill myself if I got that.