View Full Version : Classify old Anatolian Greeks. Where they pass?
Hellenas
09-05-2017, 06:12 AM
They are not Pontians(Black Sea Greeks).
From Greek cities of Anatolia.
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http://10gym-patras.ach.sch.gr/Asia-Minor/Smyrni-giorti.JPG
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https://www.neasmyrni.net.gr/portal2/images/stories/2012/07_2012/family.jpg
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http://www.madeincreta.gr/sites/default/files/photos/main/Kriti/fwtografia%20gallia%20kaliouri_0.jpg
Hellenas
09-05-2017, 06:12 AM
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8Qs66maGaBs/TvtIXfgomtI/AAAAAAAAB4Q/_ObHZtLrqqM/s1600/2-yd.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OOHxp2l3-4I/maxresdefault.jpg
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http://s.kathimerini.gr/resources/2017-02/04sthemaab1-thumb-large.jpg
http://www.pontos-news.gr/sites/default/files/ellinida_ap_o_th_smyrnh.jpg
https://sites.google.com/site/syllogosmikrasiaton/_/rsrc/1382289777263/istoria/1-%CE%A3%CE%9F%CE%A6%CE%99%CE%91%20%CE%9B%CE%9F%CE%A 5%CE%9A%CE%91%20%CE%97%20%CE%94%CE%91%CE%A3%CE%9A% CE%91%CE%9B%CE%91%20%CE%A4%CE%97%CE%A3%20%CE%A3%CE %9C%CE%A5%CE%A1%CE%9D%CE%97%CE%A3%20003.jpg?height =400&width=292
http://mikrasiatis.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/smyrnia.jpg
http://www.greekbooks.gr/ProductImages/XtraLarge/Book/%CE%9A%CE%91%CE%A3%CE%A4%CE%91%CE%9D%CE%99%CE%A9%C E%A4%CE%97%CE%A3/141154.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nxxqs-2ilbw/maxresdefault.jpg
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1964 deportation of Constantinople Greeks
http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/408524/slide_408524_5123182_compressed.jpg
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http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/408524/slide_408524_5123200_compressed.jpg
Hellenas
09-05-2017, 06:13 AM
As refugees in mainland Greece.
http://blog.psichogios.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/megalh-fwtia3.jpg
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http://mikrasiatis.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/prosfygopoula.jpg
http://www.cityportal.gr/photos/katastrophe_smurnes.jpg
http://www.pontos-news.gr/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_full/public/pontosold/filesprosfuges_324745696.jpg?itok=umOCdFny
http://www.protothema.gr/files/1/2016/01/20/smurnh3.jpg
http://amaliadanews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%B3%CE%AD%CE%BD%CE%B5%C E%B9%CE%B1-%CE%9C%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%B1%C F%84%CF%8E%CE%BD-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B7%CE%BD-%CE%93%CE%B1%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%8D%CE%BD%CE%B7.j pg
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http://assets.in.gr/assetservice/data/D2004/D1023/1bi12c.jpg
http://www.protagon.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/smyrni_katastrofh_alat-opo.jpg
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Hellenas
09-05-2017, 06:13 AM
http://elenidikaiou.gr/sites/default/files/koritsakia.png
http://www.enxoro.gr/uvpanel/library/File/enxoro_kappadokes_a(1).jpg
http://pemptousia-2.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/synaikes-me-topikes-endimasies-apo-tin-Kappadokia-foto-2.png
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http://www.archaiologia.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Prosfyges_Chania_1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f0ixhHP.jpg
http://blogs.sch.gr/lykgast/files/2015/04/mikra-asia1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pJNXVOb.jpg?1
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Some very few are Armenoids
http://i.imgur.com/YQuxcN5.jpg
And even fewer Iranoids.
http://i.imgur.com/T8Rhbt5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bozZ3LH.jpg
According to Aris Poulianos to the Proso-Asiatic(Caucaso-Armenoid and Anatolian-Iranoid/Orientalid) belong the Greeks of Trabzon(Pontians) and Erzerum and at a small degree the Greeks of Marioupolis and of Western Asia Minor.
Page 140.
Mainly Proso-Asians(Caucaso-Armenoids) are Greeks of Trabzon(Pontians) and Easterns (Anatolian-Iranoid/Orientalid) the Turkophone Greeks of Erzerum and at a small proportion the Western groups of Asia Minor.
Pages 141-142.
https://issuu.com/stampalia/docs/katagogh_ellhnon/9?e=4941600/4584982
Genetics
According to the genetic site eupedia.com:
Northern Greeks(Thrace & Macedonia) : 93,7 % European
Central Greeks(Epirus & Thessaly) : 92,2 % European
Southern Greeks(Sterea Hellas & Peloponnese) : 93,9 % European
Eastern Greeks(Aegean islands & Ionia) : 91,7% European
Cretan Greeks(Crete) : 91,1 % European
All Greeks : 93,4 % European
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t994640-13/?postcount=126#post11562743
Eastern Greeks (Aegean islands & Ionia) (158 samples)
I included Ionian GREEKS with the rest of Greeks
Their Y-DNA allmost perfectly resembles that of Aegean Greeks with whom I have classified them under Eastern Greeks (GREEKS not Greece). It also resembles average or mainstream Greek Y-DNA.
in fact Ionian Greeks and those from the Aegean islands might be the purest of Greeks since Ionians definetely didn't mix with Turks (no Central or East Asian haplogroups detected) and Albanian or Slavic influence in Ionia is zero...allthough some native Anatolian ancestry can't be ruled out.
Finally Ionian and other Anatolian Greeks are currently living in Greece and constitute a large section of the population...
As I explained Ionians seem very mainstream Greeks like those from the Aegean...
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/printthread.php?t=26644&pp=25&page=1
Mainly East-Meds and Alpine-Meds. Pass in Southern Europe.
Hellenas
09-09-2017, 03:15 AM
Cappadocian Greeks(from Central Anatolia)
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DarknessWin
09-09-2017, 03:18 AM
Photos are very poor quality, cant classify this joke
Profileid
09-09-2017, 03:35 AM
where'd you get this
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RLl1zC2QYdU/hqdefault.jpg
Hellenas
09-09-2017, 04:07 AM
where'd you get this
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RLl1zC2QYdU/hqdefault.jpg
This is a smyrna woman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLl1zC2QYdU
You can meet this phenotype more in Athens I think.
Decius
09-09-2017, 04:08 AM
Meds, Pontid e.t.c look greek
FilhoV
09-09-2017, 04:39 AM
3rd from the bottom reminds me of Angelo charisteas
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