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Loki
12-16-2010, 05:34 AM
Swedish government 'hid' anti-terror operations with America from Parliament (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8202745/WikiLeaks-Swedish-government-hid-anti-terror-operations-with-America-from-Parliament.html)

The Swedish government asked American officials to keep intelligence-gathering “informal” to help avoid Parliamentary scrutiny, American diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks show.

The secret cables, seen by The Daily Telegraph, disclose how Swedish officials wanted discussions about anti-terrorism operations kept from public scrutiny.

They describe how officials from the Swedish Ministry of Justice and Ministry of Foreign Affairs had a “strong degree of satisfaction with current informal information sharing arrangements” with the American government.

Making the arrangement formal would result in the need for it to be disclosed to Parliament, they said.

They disclose officials’ fear that intense Swedish Parliamentary scrutiny could place “a wide range of law enforcement and anti-terrorism” operations in jeopardy.

Under the heading “teams visits to discuss terrorist screening information exchange with Sweden”, they show Dr Anna-Karin Svensson, Director of the Division for Police Issues, saying the Swedish government would strike controversy if its intelligence methods were disclosed.

The cable claimed that the "current Swedish political climate makes any formal terrorist screening information agreement highly difficult". Swedish citizens are said to place high value on the country’s neutrality.

"The MOJ team expressed their appreciation for the flexibility of the U.S. side in regards to memorialising any agreement," said the cable.

"They expressed a strong degree of satisfaction with current informal information sharing arrangements with the U.S., and wondered whether the putative advantages of an HSPD-6 agreement for Sweden would be offset by the risk that these existing informal channels, which cover a wide range of law enforcement and anti-terrorism co-operation, would be scrutinised more intensely by Parliament and perhaps jeopardised.

"Dr. Svensson reiterated MFA concerns about the current political atmosphere in Sweden."

It continued: "She believed that, given Swedish constitutional requirements to present matters of national concern to Parliament and in light of the ongoing controversy over Sweden's recently passed surveillance law, it would be politically impossible for the Minister of Justice to avoid presenting any formal data sharing agreement with the United States to Parliament for review.

"In her opinion, the effect of this public spotlight could also place other existing informal information sharing arrangements at jeopardy."

The publication of the new cables, sent to Washington from the American embassy in Stockholm in 2008, came after Julian Assange, the Wikileaks founder, was granted bail on Tuesday over sexual assault claims in Sweden.

Despite a judge ordering his release with strict conditions and £200,000 guarantee from high profile supporters, the Swedish authorities appealed, meaning the 39 year-old remains behind bars.

Wikileaks claimed the new cables, which discuss terrorist screening programs, added weight to suggestions that Sweden and America were engaged in “back room deals”.

Mark Stephens, Mr Assange’s lawyer, has claimed his client was facing a “show trial” and his case was politically motivated. The Swedish government denies the claims.

Kristinn Hrafnsson, a Wikileaks spokesman, said that the website was “concerned about political influence on the prosecution of Julian Assange”.

“The new revelations contained in the Swedish cables … shed some light on the ferocity of the Swedish prosecutorial process in this case,” he said.

“The prosecutor has said there is ‘no condition’ for bail that will satisfy them.”

Loki
12-16-2010, 05:36 AM
^^ I think this is a huge blow to the worldwide view of Swedish transparency, and also now raises doubts about Sweden's real motivation to push so hard against bail for Assange.

Loki
12-16-2010, 06:01 AM
Oh, breaking news ... it is not Sweden who opposed bail??? The Crown Prosecution Service? Wow, gets weirder by the minute. :eek:

Julian Assange bail decision made by UK authorities, not Sweden (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/15/julian-assange-bail-decision-uk)

Swedish prosecutor's office says it has 'not got a view at all on bail' and that Britain made decision to oppose it

The decision to have Julian Assange sent to a London jail and kept there was taken by the British authorities and not by prosecutors in Sweden, as previously thought, the Guardian has learned.

The Crown Prosecution Service will go to the high court tomorrow to seek the reversal of a decision to free the WikiLeaks founder on bail, made yesterday by a judge at City of Westminster magistrates court.

It had been widely thought Sweden had made the decision to oppose bail, with the CPS acting merely as its representative. But today the Swedish prosecutor's office told the Guardian it had "not got a view at all on bail" and that Britain had made the decision to oppose bail.

Lawyers for Assange reacted to the news with shock and said CPS officials had told them this week it was Sweden which had asked them to ensure he was kept in prison.

Karin Rosander, director of communications for Sweden's prosecutor's office, told the Guardian: "The decision was made by the British prosecutor. I got it confirmed by the CPS this morning that the decision to appeal the granting of bail was entirely a matter for the CPS. The Swedish prosecutors are not entitled to make decisions within Britain. It is entirely up to the British authorities to handle it."

As a result, she said, Sweden will not be submitting any new evidence or arguments to the high court hearing tomorrow morning. "The Swedish authorities are not involved in these proceedings. We have not got a view at all on bail."

The Ripper
12-16-2010, 07:14 AM
Swedish neutrality has lost all credibility.

The Lawspeaker
12-16-2010, 07:21 AM
Swedish neutrality has lost all credibility.
Or Sweden's credibility of being an independent state with a fair legal system for that matter.

But it was the (British) Crown Prosecution Service that decided to appeal. Not Sweden and that Britain is a mere client state of the U.S (like my own country - and in the same way as East Germany was to the USSR) is nothing new.

The Ripper
12-16-2010, 07:23 AM
Or Sweden's credibility of being an independent state with a fair legal system for that matter.

But it was the (British) Crown Prosecution Service that decided to appeal. Not Sweden and that Britain is a mere client state of the U.S (like my own country - and in the same way as East Germany was to the USSR) is nothing new.

Yes, exactly. To pretend otherwise is simply self-denial.

SwordoftheVistula
12-16-2010, 07:24 AM
Given the recent terrorist attack in Sweden, it appears that participating in the anti-terrorist intelligence sharing was a wise move by them

The Ripper
12-16-2010, 07:25 AM
Given the recent terrorist attack in Sweden, it appears that participating in the anti-terrorist intelligence sharing was a wise move by them

This ignores the fact that the reason for the attack, according to the attacker, was participating in A-stan. Had Sweden stayed out of a conflict that is none of its concern, I doubt it would have been targeted in the first place.

SwordoftheVistula
12-16-2010, 07:36 AM
That may be true in part (I think he also mentioned the Danish cartoons of Mohammed), but once they know they may be the target of an attack, they were wise to take steps to participate in intelligence sharing to prevent it

The Ripper
12-16-2010, 07:41 AM
That may be true in part (I think he also mentioned the Danish cartoons of Mohammed), but once they know they may be the target of an attack, they were wise to take steps to participate in intelligence sharing to prevent it

Actually, he mentioned Lars Vilks, the Swedish cartoonist who found a way to become famous through mediocrity thanks to Muslim sensitivities. :coffee:

SwordoftheVistula
12-17-2010, 08:09 AM
Ah yes, now I remember the video where he is being attacked by muslims in a University.

At any rate, although the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan certainly help in their recruitment, especially at the local level in the middle east, some of these Islamic crazies really do 'hate our freedoms', like this guy and all these other nutcases acting out over cartoons and koran burnings.

Joe McCarthy
12-17-2010, 09:02 PM
This ignores the fact that the reason for the attack, according to the attacker, was participating in A-stan. Had Sweden stayed out of a conflict that is none of its concern, I doubt it would have been targeted in the first place.

If anything it'd be more fair to say that Sweden letting this Muslim in at all is what contributed to the attack. But Muslims have all kinds of shitty reasons for attacking Westerners, including that Western women dress like sluts (which is actually more accurate than the notion that the war in Afghanistan is somehow unjust).

The real question: will Muslim attacks on Sweden stop if they pull out of Afghanistan? The answer: Of course not.

Joe McCarthy
12-17-2010, 09:03 PM
Ah yes, now I remember the video where he is being attacked by muslims in a University.

At any rate, although the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan certainly help in their recruitment, especially at the local level in the middle east, some of these Islamic crazies really do 'hate our freedoms', like this guy and all these other nutcases acting out over cartoons and koran burnings.

Bin Laden has offered as terms of peace that we convert to Islam and replace our liberal democracy with an Islamic state.

Yes, they hate our freedom.

Magister Eckhart
12-18-2010, 01:32 AM
Or Sweden's credibility of being an independent state with a fair legal system for that matter.

But it was the (British) Crown Prosecution Service that decided to appeal. Not Sweden and that Britain is a mere client state of the U.S (like my own country - and in the same way as East Germany was to the USSR) is nothing new.

Did it ever occur to all of you people who think somehow the US is bossing everyone around that the US isn't the only government who dislikes Assange? He's not doing anyone any favours; to see the UK and Swedish and other governments agreeing so willingly to helping the US has far more to do with Assange threatening order and security than just with the US telling people what to do.

Granted the US does wield a lot of international power and influence but this is an alternative worth consideration.

Groenewolf
12-18-2010, 04:30 AM
Did it ever occur to all of you people who think somehow the US is bossing everyone around that the US isn't the only government who dislikes Assange?

Even nationalists should not consider Assange an ally, considering what he had done for the BNP.

SwordoftheVistula
12-18-2010, 06:39 AM
Even nationalists should consider Assange an ally, considering what he had done for the BNP.

True. That's far worse than any of this other stuff, to publish the names, addresses, and contact info of people who are members of a persecuted political party.

Eldritch
12-18-2010, 07:39 AM
The real question: will Muslim attacks on Sweden stop if they pull out of Afghanistan? The answer: Of course not.

Since when are terrorist attacks a force of nature that cannot be prevented no matter what?