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catgeorge
09-05-2017, 09:50 PM
I would consider this the final haplogroup in terms of genetics what is deemed as indigenous European apart from proto Europeans being I then J a little later. So to my mind anyone with the following Y-dna would be considered European

http://www.abroadintheyard.com/wp-content/uploads/Europe-c-117-AD-2k-jpg.jpg

Cristiano viejo
09-05-2017, 10:02 PM
no r1 in Hispania in these times?? :rolleyes:

catgeorge
09-05-2017, 10:08 PM
no r1 in Hispania in these times?? :rolleyes:

Its like almost 60% of it R-DF27

4,000 years ago, DF27 shows up, a descendant subclade down the Y-DNA branch from R1b, in the Iberian Peninsula, known as Iberia, where modern day Spain & Portugal, as well as Southern France, reside.

2,500 years ago, Greek historian Herodotus said of the Phocaeans, “it was they who made the Greeks acquainted with … Iberia”. Ancient Greek word for Iberia: Ιβηρία.

2,000 years ago, Greek historian Strabo, working for the Romans, refers to the Carretanians as people “of the Iberian stock” living in the Pyrenees,

Dick
09-05-2017, 10:14 PM
So you're saying Illyrians were I2a1?

MercifulServant
09-05-2017, 10:15 PM
So you're saying Illyrians were I2a1?

Modern Illyrians (Well closest people to illyrians since Albanians are Asian)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeAEdU4p5Cg

catgeorge
09-05-2017, 10:16 PM
So you're saying Illyrians were I2a1?

Based on the map - yes.

Dick
09-05-2017, 10:17 PM
Based on the map - yes.

Wow, very accurate!

Smeagol
09-05-2017, 10:19 PM
Y-Dna is irrelevant. autosomal is what matters.

MercifulServant
09-05-2017, 10:20 PM
Y-Dna is irrelevant. autosomal is what matters.

Autosomal is Y-Dna is interesting though

MercifulServant
09-05-2017, 10:23 PM
Y-Dna is irrelevant. autosomal is what matters.

Phenotype also matters

Smeagol
09-05-2017, 10:25 PM
Phenotype also matters

Of course.

Governor
09-09-2017, 05:50 PM
So, according to this map which Y-dna could be Jesus Christ?

http://www.abroadintheyard.com/wp-content/uploads/Europe-c-117-AD-2k-jpg.jpg

FilhoV
09-10-2017, 04:10 PM
Probably J I would assume

Kriptc06
09-10-2017, 04:30 PM
So, according to this map which Y-dna could be Jesus Christ?

[IMG]http://www.abroadintheyard.com/wp-content/uploads/Europe-c-117-AD-2k-jpg.jp/IMG]

Likely none, he would be an XX male. he didnt have a physical father.