Lighter northern Greeks: State main phenotypes

[Lavrentis]

They are all native, no Anatolian Greek ancestry. Only one guy has surname ending in -idis but his ancestors were probably from Eastern Thrace.

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[Babak]

Got crowd photos?

[Lavrentis]

Got crowd photos?

Crowd photos full of light haired-blue eyed Greeks are not easy to find. This post is to examine light phenotypes of some northern Greeks.

[Sikeliot]

Mostly North Pontids. They could fit in Poland/Czech Republic/Hungary and Alps region just fine, but not Russia nor UK. They do not resemble lighter Italians.

[Philip Latinowitz]

they look western european except for the last guy that is distinctly greek looking

tbh i can't see nothing slavic or north pontid about them, rather atlanto-nordids

[Lavrentis]

they look western european except for the last guy that is distinctly greek looking

tgh i can't see nothing slavic or nrth pontid about them, rather atlanto-nordids

Thanks for non biased answer, because the other guy (Sikeliot) spreads theories here that northern Greeks look Slavic.

I agree that they don't look Slavic or North Pontid, to me they mostly look like lighter Meds (I don't really think that they look Atlanto-Nordid either, Atlanto-Nordids look kinda different imo).

[Lavrentis]

Mostly North Pontids. They could fit in Poland/Czech Republic/Hungary and Alps region just fine, but not Russia nor UK. They do not resemble lighter Italians.

They look like light Greeks.

But the point is, do they look foreign to you or do they look just like a light version of Greeks?

[Philip Latinowitz]

Thanks for non biased answer, because the other guy (Sikeliot) spreads theories here that northern Greeks look Slavic.

I agree that they don't look Slavic or North Pontid, to me they mostly look like lighter Meds (I don't really think that they look Atlanto-Nordid either, Atlanto-Norids look kinda different imo).

they don't look slavic. greek pontids could be slavic (or rather balkanite) looking but i haven't encountered many , greeks are more atlanto-med than pontid
yeah i meant they pass in atlantic coast mostly, you could call them lighter featured atlantids/meds

[Sikeliot]

They look like light Greeks.

But the point is, do they look foreign to you or do they look just like a light version of Greeks?

Last 3 look Polish or central European Slavic to me, last one especially. Those toward the top are more like depigmented Atlanto-Meds and Atlantids. Looking again some could pass in Ireland and UK but they do not look Germanic.

[brennus dux gallorum]

All of them could be from anywhere in Greece, I don't think there is any significant difference between northern Greece and the rest of the country

[Lavrentis]

Last 3 look Polish or central European Slavic to me, last one especially. Those toward the top are more like depigmented Atlanto-Meds and Atlantids. Looking again some could pass in Ireland and UK but they do not look Germanic.

They look neither Germanic nor Slavic imo.

[Danaan]

They look like light Greeks.

But the point is, do they look foreign to you or do they look just like a light version of Greeks?

The 5th one looks very foreign to me.

If you had posted people from facebook we could have checked their surnames.

[Sikeliot]

This one does not look Greek to me at all, of any kind. I am not sure what I would think. A dark Swede? He looks Germanic.

https://s26.postimg.org/e0vcrkzyh/IMG_4063.png

[Lavrentis]

The 5th one looks very foreign to me.

If you had posted people from facebook we could have checked their surnames.

The pictures are from Instagram, I can give their profiles.

[Sikeliot]

whether eastern or western, they do pass quite a bit further north in Europe though, and none pass outside of it.

[nafz]

The 5th one looks very foreign to me.

If you had posted people from facebook we could have checked their surnames.

I agree , he looks English / Irish or something, weird.

[Lavrentis]

I agree , he looks English / Irish or something, weird.

He is not typical, but that's what I found

[Sikeliot]

I still think the one I pointed out is also very odd looking.

[Lavrentis]

I still think the one I pointed out is also very odd looking.

I gave you his Instagram profile. Did you check it?

[Sikeliot]

I gave you his Instagram profile. Did you check it?

Yes, and I maintain what I said. He looks like a brunette Swede before he looks Greek... his face is very Germanic but not the way we often stereotype it (i.e. not Borreby, Brunn, etc).

[Lavrentis]

Bump

[MysteriousWays]

Nothing north pontid, mostly lighter range of atlantid imo. Some may be more like a depigmented atlanto med though.

[DarknessWin]

I still think the one I pointed out is also very odd looking.

its not, i see many like him in the street

[catgeorge]

Light Atlanto Meds...They have Med skull shapes

No Ching Chong here like Slavs and Germans.

80% to North Italy-France.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Thanks for non biased answer, because the other guy (Sikeliot) spreads theories here that northern Greeks look Slavic.

I agree that they don't look Slavic or North Pontid, to me they mostly look like lighter Meds (I don't really think that they look Atlanto-Nordid either, Atlanto-Nordids look kinda different imo).

They are native light Greeks without any Slavic influence. This is a symbol for Slavic looking: 67367

[JohnSmith]

Heavy CM influence.

[JohnSmith]

They are native light Greeks without any Slavic influence. This is a symbol for Slavic looking: 67367
That new study says many Greeks came from Northern Europe.

https://www.livescience.com/60027-origins-of-1st-advanced-greek-civilizations.html

[Vlatko Vukovic]

That new study says many Greeks came from Northern Europe.

Which studies? You mustn't be from Northern Europe to have light hair or light eyes. In average, Syrians are more light then Sicilians.

[JohnSmith]

Which studies? You mustn't be from Northern Europe to have light hair or light eyes. In average, Syrians are more light then Sicilians.

https://www.livescience.com/60027-origins-of-1st-advanced-greek-civilizations.html

It is couple months old. I am not sure how much it applies to the people of today but the Greeks are pretty Homogeneous due to their Religion.

[Lavrentis]

That new study says many Greeks came from Northern Europe.

https://www.livescience.com/60027-origins-of-1st-advanced-greek-civilizations.html

This study is probably talking about the ancient Indo-Europeans who invaded Greece.

[JohnSmith]

This study is probably talking about the ancient Indo-Europeans who invaded Greece.

I believe it is more recent than that.

[catgeorge]

Mediterannean skulls neighbours dont have these phenotypes with Med skulls can only find them in South Europe + France. North Greece is a little different as neolithic daddies liked the I1 + I2 mummies which other parts of Greece did not have these neighbours pre neolithic and PIE

[Lavrentis]

I believe it is more recent than that.

From which era? In my opinion, when the ancient Indo-Europeans invaded Greece, their population wasn't that small compared to the locals. That explains why a good number of Greeks are more northern shifted. But I'm interested in your theory too.

[JohnSmith]

From which era? In my opinion, when the ancient Indo-Europeans invaded Greece, their population wasn't that small compared to the locals. That explains why a good number of Greeks are more northern shifted. But I'm interested in your theory too.

I think you are right,, but once they got there did mingle with the others or kind of stay to themselves? Did they develop their own culture and civilization or was it inclusive? IDK

[Lavrentis]

I think you are right,, but once they got there did mingle with the others or kind of stay to themselves? Did they develop their own culture and civilization or was it inclusive? IDK

They culturally and linguistically assimilated the natives. That's what's accepted at least.

[brennus dux gallorum]

The particular sample mostly north atlantid, which is a Mediterranean subtype with Nordic influence

North pontid Greeks are not referred in bibliography, on contrary as early as 40's Greeks are mostly referred as partially Atlantomed and partially east-med, see Coon

[Odin]

Pontic-Meds and Atlanto-Meds.