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Vulpix
02-10-2009, 07:59 PM
Benefits mother living with jobless boyfriend is pregnant with triplets... at 17 years of age (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1140912/Mother-living-benefits-unemployed-boyfriend-reveals-pregnant-triplets--age-17.html)


A single mother who gave birth to her first child at 15 is about to have triplets - at the age of 17.
Sian Robbins, who already has a two-year-old son, had only been dating her 18-year-old boyfriend for under a year when she discovered she was pregnant again.

Miss Robbins, who lives on benefits, had not discussed having a family with boyfriend Callum Thomas and was amazed to discover she was carrying triplets.
Her unmarried mother, Rachel Briggs, 40, will help with her daughter's family of four - even though she has six children herself.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/10/article-1140912-035EE432000005DC-1_468x340.jpg Expecting triplets: 17-year-old Sian Robbins with her boyfriend Callum Thomas and two-year-old son Jaden
Due to give birth by Caesarean Section in July, she is now preparing to be a mum of four at the young age of 18.


Miss Robbins, who lives with son Jaden in a rented house in Portsmouth said: ‘I always thought I'd have kids but not until I was 18.
‘I love being a mum though and as long as I cope, and I'm there for all my children, that's all I can do.’

Miss Robbins was just 15 and still at school when she fell pregnant with Jaden, but decided not to abort the baby and gave birth in November 2006.
After Jaden was born, Sian went back school where she passed four GCSEs before leaving to become a full-time mother.

She split up with Jaden’s father not long after his birth and he does not pay any maintenance for his son.
Mrs Briggs admitted she was disappointed when she discovered her teenage daughter had become pregnant again but vowed to support her.

Miss Robbins admitted she and Callum did not want a baby, but were not using contraception when the triplets were conceived.
She said: ‘It just happened and I just had a feeling that I was going to have more than one but I was shocked when they said it was triplets.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/10/article-1140912-035EEF8A000005DC-588_468x647.jpg Sian Robbins- pregnant with triplets (middle right) with (l-r) her mother Rachel Briggs holding her sister Kira Leworthy, three , sister Liah Robbins 16 (at back)and Sian's son son Jaden-Lee Redding and her boyfriend Callum Thomas


‘I was devastated at first, I was shaking, finding out I was going to have four children was too much.
‘But now I've had time to think about it I can't wait - I've got my family behind me and I've got Callum.’
Sian is aware that people will not agree, or understand, having children at such a young age but she is determined not to let it get to her.

She said: ‘It's not got anything to do with anyone else.
‘When I was pregnant with Jaden everyone was staring all the time but it doesn't really bother me - it's happened and there's not a lot I can do.’
Miss Robbins also believes there are many benefits to being a young mum.

She said: ‘The younger I have them the better it will be because I'll be young when they are young - by the time Jaden is 15 I'll be 30.’
A 12-week scan has revealed that two of Miss Robbins’ babies are sharing a placenta and doctors advised her to abort one or more foetus to give the other a better chance of survival.

She also faces a higher risk of miscarriage than if she was expecting just one baby.
Despite this, she and Mr Thomas have decided to keep all three babies.
She will have to be monitored by her consultant every two weeks and will give birth to the triplets by Caesarean section in the 33rd week of her pregnancy - seven weeks early.

Miss Robbins survives on benefits of £1126 a month, which includes rent for her flat, child benefit and family tax credit.
She said: ‘I'm a bit scared about how I'll cope but I've got my family around me and Callum's family.
‘I'm really excited - we're going to do our best to look after them well and I think it's something to celebrate.’

Mr Thomas added: ‘She loves being a mum - even if one does have a problem we'll still love them.
‘I think it's better off until the babies get older that I'm at home so I'll be signing on - Sian wants me at home.’
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Is it me or they have a smug look on their faces?

Ĉmeric
02-10-2009, 08:09 PM
WTF are these women doing having babies without a husband or a job? And they have no shame! Giving an interview over the upcoming event as though it was something to be proud of.


Miss Robbins survives on benefits of £1126 a month, which includes rent for her flat, child benefit and family tax credit.
As long as governments continue to subsidize this kind of behavior we will have people like this procreating. £1126 works out to about $1,600 a month or $19,200 a year. There is no incentive to work or use birth control with benefits like this.:shakefist

Beorn
02-10-2009, 08:23 PM
Miss Robbins was just 15 and still at school when she fell pregnant with Jaden, but decided not to abort the baby and gave birth in November 2006.Well done for her not aborting at least.

It seems the world is topsy-turvy. The young who can't look after children readily want children, and the modern working woman who can support children is loathe to have children.


After Jaden was born, Sian went back school where she passed four GCSEs before leaving to become a full-time mother.Compared to most stories at least she finished school.

I know one girl who had her child at 15, returned to school with her mother's backing and went onto become a manager of a leading sports chain, earning very good money, but has now left to work for a rival.

Ceallach can fill you with more details, but the onus is there to instil in our youth to carry on with their studies and attempt to make a success of your life rather than sit on benefits and do nothing.


She split up with Jaden’s father not long after his birth and he does not pay any maintenance for his son.He will do eventually. I can only hope that he will in time wish to play an active role in his children's lives and have full legal access to them.



As long as governments continue to subsidize this kind of behavior we will have people like this procreating. £1126 works out to about $1,600 a month or $19,200 a year. There is no incentive to work or use birth control with benefits like this.:shakefist

Unfortunately in Britain, it seems the working family is under subsidised in tax reliefs and other benefits compared to those who do not work.

As you rightly state, the incentive is to stay on benefits.

Ceallach
02-11-2009, 12:45 PM
I know one girl who had her child at 15, returned to school with her mother's backing and went onto become a manager of a leading sports chain, earning very good money, but has now left to work for a rival.

Ceallach can fill you with more details, but the onus is there to instil in our youth to carry on with their studies and attempt to make a success of your life rather than sit on benefits and do nothing.


Just as BWW says She is my friend, she fell pregnant at 14 and had the baby when she was 15, she then went on to finish school and is now very successfully manger. She is also still living at home age 22, not like some who use it as an excuse to have a house or flat.

I also know some other young ladies?? who have just had a kid, 3 from the same family all within weeks of each other all on benefits and mum also single and on benefits, when I told them about the new law that was coming in where when their youngest child reaches the age of 7 they have to come off income support and start to look for a job, their reply to this was "we will just have to keep having babies than":mad:

Makes you sick using babies as a way to just get a house, half of them can't even look after them self let alone a child.:(

Ceallach
02-11-2009, 12:49 PM
when I told them about the new law that was coming in where when their youngest child reaches the age of 7 they have to come off income support and start to look for a job, their reply to this was "we will just have to keep having babies than"

Why do they have to wait till they are 7?? surly when the child starts full time education, can't they get a job from 10-2 while the child is at school, or become a Childminder then they can still stay at home with their child and get paid for it?

Absinthe
02-11-2009, 01:35 PM
Under those circumstances, is there anyone here who can claim that the duty of our women is too breed as many 'aryan children' as possible? :D :p

Hildolf
02-11-2009, 01:40 PM
You can imagine what the careers talk at school went like, so what would you like to do? I want to have lot's of babies, I hear there is good money in it and I can work from home.

Seems to be the career choice of many young intellectually challenged individuals.

Vulpix
02-11-2009, 01:54 PM
Under those circumstances, is there anyone here who can claim that the duty of our women is too breed as many 'aryan children' as possible? :D :p

It should be this way: either no one has the right to sponge off the taxpayers by making a career out of irresponsible breeding, or the taxpayers are given the choice on how the government spends their tax money.

Ĉmeric
02-11-2009, 02:02 PM
Under those circumstances, is there anyone here who can claim that the duty of our women is too breed as many 'aryan children' as possible? :D :p
Quality is more important then quantity. 1 or 2 well raised children with good morals & work ethic are better then 6+ children who will grow up to be shiftless & welfare bums &/or join the criminal class.

A shrinking population need not be a bad thing, especially in countries like England or Holland, which already have a density of over 1,000 per sq.mi. There are 2 reasons why a TFR of less then 2 children per women is becoming such a catastrophe in the West. One is immigration. But even trying to outbreed Muslim women or Latinos or Asians, depending on your country, is not going to make that probelm go away. The other is the current social security/insurance system, which is nothing more then a ponzi scheme, dependent on an ever increasing number of working age people to support the elderly. And to support the nonworking underclass. Solve these 2 problems & the native demographic problem will solve itself.

Revenant
02-11-2009, 03:45 PM
This is just basic human nature. Many will take the easy way when it's offered. Considering all the other family trends or alternative lifestyles that are around today this is pretty tame IMO. I doubt that ones like this mother and father are that numerous either.

Sarmata
02-11-2009, 04:34 PM
Under those circumstances, is there anyone here who can claim that the duty of our women is too breed as many 'aryan children' as possible? :D :p

I think that motherhood it's natural role of women in this world. Ofcourse not when the "women" is 14 years old, uneducated etc. More over I think that genetic pool of such people, often alkoholics, and other degenerates are harmful for society. It sounds brutal but life is brutal.

Absinthe
02-11-2009, 05:31 PM
Quality is more important then quantity. 1 or 2 well raised children with good morals & work ethic are better then 6+ children who will grow up to be shiftless & welfare bums &/or join the criminal class.

Yes, that was exactly my point. ;)

Hildolf
02-11-2009, 06:48 PM
This is just basic human nature. Many will take the easy way when it's offered. Considering all the other family trends or alternative lifestyles that are around today this is pretty tame IMO. I doubt that ones like this mother and father are that numerous either.

They are numerous enough. The only positive thing I can say about the individuals mentioned is that "at least the Father is around", Not that he'll be a particularly good role model it seems. Sadly so many kids don't have their father around. I live in a small town and it is ridiculous how many kids don't have there Father around or their parents are seperated.

SwordoftheVistula
02-11-2009, 10:59 PM
[regarding payment of child support]He will do eventually. I can only hope that he will in time wish to play an active role in his children's lives and have full legal access to them.

Unless he is on benefits himself, which is likely.


Under those circumstances, is there anyone here who can claim that the duty of our women is too breed as many 'aryan children' as possible? :D :p


Seems to be the career choice of many young intellectually challenged individuals.

That's the problem with socialist policies like this, is even in an ethnically pure state they encourage the lower elements to have more children.


It should be this way: either no one has the right to sponge off the taxpayers by making a career out of irresponsible breeding, or the taxpayers are given the choice on how the government spends their tax money.


This is just basic human nature. Many will take the easy way when it's offered. Considering all the other family trends or alternative lifestyles that are around today this is pretty tame IMO. I doubt that ones like this mother and father are that numerous either.

That's where the fault really lies, is the politicians who first put this system in place, and the voters who elected them. No doubt, back when such things were less common, someone came up with a sob story "I have 4 kids and the fathers have all run off, and I'm from a poor family, please help me" and they didn't consider the long term problems of putting such a policy in place. Now of course, so many people are dependent on such benefits, that it would be difficult to elect a party which promises to repeal them.


The only positive thing I can say about the individuals mentioned is that "at least the Father is around"

For now, anyways. Odds are he'll take off in the next few years, as he doesn't appear to be a particuarly responsible individual.

Beorn
02-12-2009, 12:03 AM
Unless he is on benefits himself, which is likely.


Most likely. :rolleyes: