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Peterski
09-09-2017, 04:23 PM
(...) however, eastern Poland is undeniably eastern European.

The problem is, that there is no any "Eastern Poland" today.

Former Eastern Poland is now Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania and Latvia:

https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/attachments/osc07n-jpg.305248/

https://s3.postimg.org/f93npsre9/Polacy_Kresy_D.png

Pre-war Lwów (Lviv):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiekjno91WA

^^^
Lwów was the 3rd largest city of pre-war Poland, culturally the 2nd most important one (after Warsaw), and the main city of Southern Poland (Cracow was 2nd). Ethnically it was a Polish city with a Jewish minority, and it was supposed to stay within Poland even according to the original Curzon Line.

Lwów is only ~70 km from the modern border of Poland. Getting Szczecin (I think that's what Poland got "extra", because Szczecin is located mostly to the west of the Oder River - so it should have stayed with Germany even with those border changes) did not compensate the loss of Lwów.

Rethel
09-09-2017, 05:10 PM
Gnezno's Principality, Calisia Principality, Ląd county, Śrem Principality = Eastern Poland.
Like here, light red called Ziemia Kaliska. (evetually could be added Pałuki and maybe Ziemia
Wieluńska = Wieluń and Ruda Principalities, but they seem to be now on their own)

https://i.redd.it/fzifmjii2toy.jpg

ЛыSSый
09-09-2017, 05:38 PM
Where is Eastern Poland located ??? in siberia, little bro, in siberia

Rethel
09-09-2017, 05:44 PM
in siberia, little bro, in siberia

Finaly you admitted, that whole Russia should be in Poland. :laugh:

Peterski
09-09-2017, 06:20 PM
in siberia, little bro, in siberia

This is Easternmost Poland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaxa_(state)

Ülev
09-09-2017, 06:29 PM
Warmia and Masuria, Lubusz voivodeship, Western Pomerania and Lower Silesia so called Recovered for one or 'lost' for the second Territories --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered_Territories

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Curzon_line_en.svg

these regions are now genetically, culturally and mentally Eastern Poland

Peterski
09-09-2017, 06:32 PM
these regions are now genetically, culturally and mentally Eastern Poland

So why are these regions pro-EU and vote for Platforma Obywatelska?:

https://www.igipz.pan.pl/tl_files/igipz/ZGWiRL/APW/Rozdzial5/5.1.8.Przebieg_granic.png

https://www.igipz.pan.pl/tl_files/igipz/ZGWiRL/APW/Rozdzial5/5.1.8.Przebieg_granic.png

https://historia.org.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/CF3k0PBWYAIB9LD.jpg

https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_JNuLW7LaM5CRGRH9TAyj30pnrxO9Xe1S.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/80/31/10/z16979584Q.jpg?preview=1

Ülev
09-09-2017, 06:35 PM
So why are these regions pro-EU and vote for Platforma Obywatelska ???

that party was friendly to Moscow, isn't it? at least the second one called PiS claim this kind of truths

Ülev
09-09-2017, 06:39 PM
btw, I mean about other people into "Recovered Territories", I mean that unofficial version of history say that it was Stalin decree to give Poland "soviet" citizens, Marx & Engels claimed that to enter new political, social and economical system there is the need to destroy/kill 10% of society, Stalin goes further - he add 10%, this is why Poland had "baby boom" in socialistic era - the real reason

Ülev
09-09-2017, 06:44 PM
I hear ordinary people from villages and small towns in Lubusz region, and they do not have Lviv, Lithuanian or Belarusian accent, I hear clear russian words in their common talks, they really use words like łoszadź, old lady "bojała" się, "stojała" etc.

Peterski
09-09-2017, 06:47 PM
http://wbdata.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/glosy_duda2015_2tura.png

http://www.newsweek.pl/g/i.aspx/670/0/newsweek/635683542763644799.jpg

https://dzieckonmp.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/120.png

Ülev
09-09-2017, 06:56 PM
^^ "obszary dawnego zaboru rosyjskiego"/"areas of former russian parttion of Poland" ---> people there have more anti-russian instincts than in other parts of Poland, just saying

Rethel
09-09-2017, 07:05 PM
So why are these regions pro-EU and vote for Platforma Obywatelska?:

Maybe they want to be more pyrian than pyrys themselves, as any convert or wannabe? :scratch:

ЛыSSый
09-09-2017, 07:30 PM
Finaly you admitted, that whole Russia should be in Poland. :laugh:

little bro, i always say priwislje is part of russia. I even proposed to you make reunion.


This is Easternmost Poland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaxa_(state)

jaja, little bro, in such way big russian brothers used polish energy in proper way. Now poles haven't such opportunities. And i don't want to say about how poles are used in novadays western world.