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Hudayar
09-10-2017, 09:44 PM
Their kitnumbers are: F900005, F900012, F900002, F900007, F900011

First Azerbaijani:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.00
2 South_Central_Asian 21.72
3 Near_East 9.94
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 5.04
5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.89
6 European_Early_Farmers 4.67
7 Tungus-Altaic 4.02
8 South_Indian 2.51
9 North_African 2.23
10 South_East_Asian 1.94
11 Arctic 1.63


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Azeri_ @ 4.605259
2 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 5.711572
3 Kurd_North_ @ 6.611252
4 Baku_WGA_ @ 7.442737
5 Kurd_South_ @ 8.181539
6 Kurd_East_ @ 8.398253
7 Kurd_ @ 8.474556
8 Turk_Adana_ @ 9.117300
9 Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 9.871409
10 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 10.036856
11 Turk_ @ 10.086408
12 Georgian_Jew_ @ 11.014503
13 Azeri_Dagestan_ @ 11.263984
14 Kurd_Jew_ @ 12.740886
15 Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 13.029605
16 Iranian_ @ 13.510923
17 Iraqi_Mandean_ @ 13.571613
18 Iraqi_Chaldean_ @ 13.578114
19 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 13.647022
20 Kumyk_ @ 13.686460

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri_ +50% Azeri_ @ 4.605259


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurd_East_ +25% Nogai_ +25% Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.439470


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Iraqi_Chaldean_ + North_Ossetian_ + Tajik_Afghan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.004521
2 Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Kakheti_ + Kurd_ + Tajik_Tajikistan_ @ 2.100189
3 Azeri_Dagestan_ + Druze_ + Tajik_Afghan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 2.102253
4 Iraqi_Chaldean_ + North_Ossetian_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.140171
5 Iranian_Jew_ + Kurd_South_ + Ossetian_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.174130
6 Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Kakheti_ + Kurd_South_ + Tajik_Tajikistan_ @ 2.179386
7 Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Ossetian_ + Tajik_Afghan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.193054
8 Adygei_ + Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Tajik_Afghan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.200434
9 Balkar_ + Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Tajik_Afghan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.202380
10 Adygei_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Kurd_East_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.208014
11 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + North_Ossetian_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.222226
12 Iraqi_Jew_ + Kurd_ + North_Ossetian_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 2.226554
13 Iranian_Jew_ + Kurd_East_ + Ossetian_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.238778
14 Kurd_Jew_ + Kurd_South_ + Ossetian_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.239868
15 Azeri_ + Kurd_East_ + Nogai_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.243916
16 Kurd_Jew_ + North_Ossetian_ + Tajik_Afghan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.246371
17 Azeri_Dagestan_ + Druze_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 2.252366
18 Kakheti_ + Kurd_South_ + Tajik_Tajikistan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.254324
19 Chechen_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Kurd_East_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.254552
20 Chechen_ + Jew_Tat_ + Kurd_East_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.258187

Done.

Elapsed time 24.0394 seconds.




Second Azerbaijani:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 42.08
2 South_Central_Asian 20.19
3 Near_East 11.16
4 European_Early_Farmers 6.65
5 South_East_Asian 3.52
6 Tungus-Altaic 3.47
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.32
8 East_Siberian 2.72
9 Ancestral_Altaic 2.37
10 South_Indian 1.14


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 6.001623
2 Azeri_ @ 6.113153
3 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 7.000973
4 Turk_Adana_ @ 7.411751
5 Kurd_North_ @ 7.711214
6 Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 8.317350
7 Turk_ @ 8.399650
8 Georgian_Jew_ @ 8.758737
9 Baku_WGA_ @ 9.256340
10 Kurd_ @ 10.043073
11 Kurd_East_ @ 10.303969
12 Kurd_South_ @ 10.618044
13 Assyrian_Iraqi_ @ 10.643008
14 Kurd_Jew_ @ 10.669589
15 Jew_Tat_ @ 10.669760
16 Iraqi_Chaldean_ @ 11.304727
17 Iranian_Jew_ @ 11.746712
18 Armenian_Yerevan_ @ 11.913693
19 Armenian_ @ 11.954954
20 Iraqi_Mandean_ @ 12.234985

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_Kayseri_ +50% Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 3.988863


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Yerevan_ +25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ +25% Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 3.129790


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenian_ + Armenian_Yerevan_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 3.069652
2 Armenian_ + Assyrian_Arzni_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 3.126043
3 Armenian_Yerevan_ + Armenian_Yerevan_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 3.129790
4 Armenian_ + Armenian_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 3.141152
5 Armenian_ + Armenian_Yerevan_ + Azeri_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.149828
6 Armenian_Yerevan_ + Armenian_Yerevan_ + Azeri_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.178781
7 Armenian_ + Assyrian_Arzni_ + Azeri_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.224453
8 Armenian_ + Armenian_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 3.230726
9 Iraqi_Jew_ + Kakheti_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 3.231603
10 Armenian_Yerevan_ + Armenian_Yerevan_ + Kurd_North_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.248801
11 Armenian_ + Armenian_ + Azeri_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.255481
12 Armenian_ + Armenian_Yerevan_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 3.255716
13 Armenian_ + Armenian_Yerevan_ + Kurd_North_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.266171
14 Armenian_Yerevan_ + Assyrian_Arzni_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 3.266572
15 Kakheti_ + Kurd_Jew_ + Turk_Kayseri_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.310476
16 Armenian_Yerevan_ + Assyrian_Arzni_ + Azeri_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.319338
17 Armenian_ + Armenian_Yerevan_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.322398
18 Azeri_ + Iraqi_Jew_ + Kakheti_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.331739
19 Armenian_ + Assyrian_Arzni_ + Baku_WGA_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.342622
20 Jew_Tat_ + Kurd_ + Turk_Trabzon_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.342909

Done.

Elapsed time 25.3052 seconds.


Third Azerbaijani:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.73
2 South_Central_Asian 25.61
3 Near_East 9.49
4 European_Early_Farmers 7.25
5 Tungus-Altaic 6.96
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.84
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.58
8 North_African 2.38
9 Arctic 1.42


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Azeri_ @ 6.643171
2 Kurd_North_ @ 7.922221
3 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 7.924884
4 Kurd_ @ 8.446996
5 Kurd_South_ @ 8.760259
6 Kurd_East_ @ 8.915894
7 Baku_WGA_ @ 10.379399
8 Turk_Adana_ @ 10.952860
9 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 12.048739
10 Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 12.142507
11 Turk_ @ 12.930448
12 Azeri_Dagestan_ @ 13.298514
13 Iranian_ @ 13.299865
14 Georgian_Jew_ @ 14.222640
15 Kurd_Jew_ @ 14.656157
16 Iraqi_Mandean_ @ 15.203626
17 Iraqi_Chaldean_ @ 15.389520
18 Assyrian_Iraqi_ @ 15.451552
19 Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 15.880436
20 Iranian_Jew_ @ 16.054148

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri_ +50% Azeri_ @ 6.643171


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurd_ +25% Turk_Kayseri_ +25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 5.385364


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenian_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 5.150302
2 Armenian_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 5.241386
3 Armenian_Yerevan_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 5.361018
4 Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Turk_Kayseri_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 5.385364
5 Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 5.427060
6 Armenian_Yerevan_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 5.439181
7 Armenian_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_East_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 5.449665
8 Kurd_ + Kurd_North_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 5.497244
9 Armenian_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_East_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 5.523504
10 Assyrian_Arzni_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 5.531890
11 Kurd_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 5.532395
12 Armenian_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_South_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 5.534178
13 Armenian_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_South_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 5.537836
14 Armenian_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_North_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 5.541646
15 Armenian_ + Azeri_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 5.552101
16 Azeri_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 5.569566
17 Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Nogai_ @ 5.571507
18 Armenian_ + Kurd_ + Kurd_North_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 5.576127
19 Brahui_ + Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Kakheti_ + Nogai_ @ 5.609590
20 Armenian_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 5.623765

Done.

Elapsed time 49.0280 seconds.




Fourth Azerbaijani:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.57
2 South_Central_Asian 20.91
3 European_Early_Farmers 9.07
4 Near_East 8.93
5 Ancestral_Altaic 3.74
6 Tungus-Altaic 3.47
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.31
8 South_Indian 2.81
9 Australoid 2.58
10 Austronesian 1.34
11 Amerindian 1.09


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Azeri_ @ 6.569793
2 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 7.254785
3 Kurd_North_ @ 7.451424
4 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 7.720757
5 Turk_Adana_ @ 8.125937
6 Turk_ @ 8.620068
7 Kurd_South_ @ 9.890277
8 Kurd_East_ @ 9.957513
9 Baku_WGA_ @ 9.981840
10 Kurd_ @ 10.125216
11 Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 10.400139
12 Georgian_Jew_ @ 10.693386
13 Assyrian_Iraqi_ @ 11.863585
14 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 12.171397
15 Azeri_Dagestan_ @ 12.867158
16 Iraqi_Chaldean_ @ 12.923895
17 Jew_Tat_ @ 13.124048
18 Kurd_Jew_ @ 13.300443
19 Cirkassian_ @ 13.639256
20 Armenian_ @ 13.649889

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri_ +50% Turk_Kayseri_ @ 4.721023


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_ +25% Tajik_Afghan_ +25% Turk_Kayseri_ @ 4.264975


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++
1 Greek_Smyrna_ + Kakheti_ + Tajik_Afghan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 3.936550
2 Greek_Islands_ + Kakheti_ + Kurd_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 3.983001
3 Azeri_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Kakheti_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.005051
4 Greek_Smyrna_ + Kakheti_ + Kurd_North_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.007763
5 Greek_Smyrna_ + Kakheti_ + Tajik_Afghan_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 4.040051
6 Greek_Smyrna_ + Kakheti_ + Kurd_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.048588
7 Greek_Islands_ + Kakheti_ + Kurd_North_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.092340
8 Azeri_ + Greek_Islands_ + Kakheti_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.102314
9 Greek_Islands_ + Kakheti_ + Tajik_Afghan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 4.131414
10 Greek_Islands_ + Kakheti_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 4.140454
11 Azeri_ + Greek_Islands_ + Kakheti_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.141825
12 Greek_Islands_ + Kakheti_ + Kurd_East_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.163396
13 Greek_Islands_ + Kakheti_ + Kurd_North_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.192438
14 Greek_Smyrna_ + Kakheti_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 4.192682
15 Abkhasian_ + Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.196461
16 Azeri_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Kakheti_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.198535
17 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Kakheti_ + Tajik_Afghan_ + Turk_Kayseri_ @ 4.207798
18 Greek_Islands_ + Kakheti_ + Kurd_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.210754
19 Baku_WGA_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Kakheti_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.215460
20 Greek_Smyrna_ + Kakheti_ + Kurd_East_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.231952

Done.

Elapsed time 32.0859 seconds.




Fifth Azerbaijani:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.16
2 South_Central_Asian 23.23
3 Near_East 9.23
4 Ancestral_Altaic 5.19
5 North_African 4.70
6 Tungus-Altaic 4.54
7 South_Indian 3.44
8 European_Hunters_Gatherers 2.93
9 European_Early_Farmers 1.68
10 Austronesian 1.52
11 African_Pygmy 1.08


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Azeri_ @ 6.220894
2 Baku_WGA_ @ 7.040271
3 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 7.226813
4 Kurd_North_ @ 8.418600
5 Kurd_ @ 8.688044
6 Kurd_East_ @ 9.312501
7 Kurd_South_ @ 9.905074
8 Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 10.543005
9 Azeri_Dagestan_ @ 11.353301
10 Turk_Adana_ @ 12.352111
11 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 12.904279
12 Georgian_Jew_ @ 13.197641
13 Kurd_Jew_ @ 13.215238
14 Turk_ @ 13.491691
15 Iraqi_Mandean_ @ 13.806582
16 Iranian_Jew_ @ 14.229914
17 Jew_Tat_ @ 14.274001
18 Iranian_ @ 14.400716
19 Kumyk_ @ 14.484559
20 Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 14.913849

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_ +50% Ossetian_ @ 5.333687


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_Jew_ +25% Ossetian_ +25% Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.725811


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Adjara_ + Baku_WGA_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.000867
2 Baku_WGA_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.084774
3 Azeri_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.090608
4 Adjara_ + Baku_WGA_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.100006
5 Baku_WGA_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.104360
6 Azeri_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.115145
7 Abkhasian_ + Baku_WGA_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.118245
8 Abkhasian_ + Baku_WGA_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.150336
9 Baku_WGA_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.156564
10 Azeri_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.161181
11 Adjara_ + Azeri_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.169457
12 Abkhasian_ + Azeri_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.172652
13 Adjara_ + Azeri_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.175478
14 Adjara_ + Azeri_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.180062
15 Abkhasian_ + Baku_WGA_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.200221
16 Adjara_ + Baku_WGA_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.202345
17 Abkhasian_ + Azeri_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.231983
18 Adjara_ + Baku_WGA_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Uzbek_Afghan_ @ 4.234250
19 Adjara_ + Azeri_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.242598
20 Abkhasian_ + Baku_WGA_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Tajik_Afghan_ @ 4.247653

Done.

Elapsed time 25.2655 seconds.

Hudayar
09-10-2017, 09:50 PM
As far as i see Azerbaijanis are a mix of Caucasians (Georgians/Armenians), Iranics (Probably Persians but it shows up as Kurd lol) and Turkics (Turkmens/Uzbeks and Turkic influenced Tajiks whose genetic makeup is similar to Turkmens)

Babak
09-11-2017, 12:11 AM
nvm

myouss
09-11-2017, 04:10 AM
# Population Percent
1 South_East_Asian 23.55
2 Caucasian 20.79
3 Austronesian 14.05
4 Tungus-Altaic 13.50
5 South_Central_Asian 8.79
6 Near_East 7.83
7 European_Early_Farmers 5.36
8 North_African 2.71

Curious seeing the similarities between my results and theirs, seeing as neither of my parents are from Azerbaijan at all but my mix puts me somewhat similar to an Azerbaijani (I don't know what all the Austronesian on mine is, doesn't show up in any other Gedmatch/test) it does support a majority Caucasus mixed with Central Asian/Turkic. Not really sure if it's necessarily Iranic in there.

Babak
09-11-2017, 04:13 AM
# Population Percent
1 South_East_Asian 23.55
2 Caucasian 20.79
3 Austronesian 14.05
4 Tungus-Altaic 13.50
5 South_Central_Asian 8.79
6 Near_East 7.83
7 European_Early_Farmers 5.36
8 North_African 2.71

Curious seeing the similarities between my results and theirs, seeing as neither of my parents are from Azerbaijan at all but my mix puts me somewhat similar to an Azerbaijani (I don't know what all the Austronesian on mine is, doesn't show up in any other Gedmatch/test) it does support a majority Caucasus mixed with Central Asian/Turkic. Not really sure if it's necessarily Iranic in there.

Its probably shared east-asian ancestry.

Babak
09-11-2017, 04:18 AM
Persian(Southwest) Punt K23b

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.4
2 South_Central_Asian 29.57
3 Near_East 12.66
4 European_Early_Farmers 6.02
5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.41
6 South_Indian 3.28
7 North_African 2.72
8 East_African 1.47
9 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.42
10 Australoid 1.31
11 South_East_Asian 0.88
12 Paleo_Siberian 0.38
13 East_Siberian 0.36
14 Archaic_Human 0.12

Leto
09-11-2017, 07:28 PM
I have a few kit numbers from the Republic of Azerbaijan.

Hudayar
09-12-2017, 01:45 AM
I have a few kit numbers from the Republic of Azerbaijan.

I only have 2. One of them is obviously mixed though.
here's the non mixed Azerbaijani

Kitnumber: F900016

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.60
2 South_Central_Asian 20.31
3 Near_East 10.41
4 European_Early_Farmers 7.32
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 4.44
6 Tungus-Altaic 4.39
7 North_African 4.36
8 Ancestral_Altaic 3.78
9 Austronesian 1.56
10 East_Siberian 1.18
11 Amerindian 1.02


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Azeri_ @ 6.015368
2 Turk_Adana_ @ 6.117693
3 Kurd_North_ @ 7.203179
4 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 7.391253
5 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 7.676779
6 Turk_ @ 8.181895
7 Kurd_South_ @ 9.230682
8 Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 9.265918
9 Kurd_ @ 9.569296
10 Georgian_Jew_ @ 9.610971
11 Kurd_East_ @ 9.937182
12 Baku_WGA_ @ 10.340349
13 Iraqi_Chaldean_ @ 11.678662
14 Assyrian_Iraqi_ @ 11.733541
15 Kurd_Jew_ @ 11.863248
16 Iraqi_Mandean_ @ 12.131843
17 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 12.405409
18 Turk_Aydin_ @ 12.641111
19 Iranian_Jew_ @ 12.866908
20 Jew_Tat_ @ 13.107553

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri_ +50% Turk_Adana_ @ 3.982601


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurd_ +25% Nogai_ +25% Syrian_Jew_ @ 2.266614


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Nogai_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 2.266614
2 Azeri_ + Kurd_ + Nogai_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 2.648787
3 Kurd_ + Kurd_East_ + Nogai_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 2.691252
4 Kurd_ + Kurd_North_ + Nogai_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 2.788125
5 Kurd_ + Kurd_South_ + Nogai_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 2.835709
6 Kurd_ + Nogai_ + Syrian_Jew_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 2.847267
7 Azeri_Dagestan_ + Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Kurd_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.854817
8 Iraqi_Mandean_ + Kurd_ + Nogai_ + Turk_Adana_ @ 2.906089
9 Iraqi_Mandean_ + Kurd_ + Nogai_ + Turk_Kayseri_ @ 2.992027
10 Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Kurd_ + Nogai_ + Turk_Adana_ @ 3.027107
11 Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Lebanese_Muslim_ + Nogai_ @ 3.030139
12 Baku_WGA_ + Kurd_ + Nogai_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.032714
13 Kurd_ + Nogai_ + Turk_Adana_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 3.087101
14 Azeri_ + Kurd_East_ + Nogai_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.100850
15 Kurd_ + Kurd_ + Lebanese_ + Nogai_ @ 3.112749
16 Azeri_Dagestan_ + Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Kurd_North_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.144030
17 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Kurd_ + Nogai_ + Turk_Adana_ @ 3.144501
18 Kakheti_ + Kurd_ + Syrian_Jew_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.160126
19 Kurd_East_ + Nogai_ + Syrian_Jew_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 3.197429
20 Azeri_ + Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Kurd_ + Nogai_ @ 3.216867

Done.

Elapsed time 25.9909 seconds.


and other oracle says:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.6
2 South_Central_Asian 20.31
3 Near_East 10.41
4 European_Early_Farmers 7.32
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 4.44
6 Tungus-Altaic 4.39
7 North_African 4.36
8 Ancestral_Altaic 3.78
9 Austronesian 1.56
10 East_Siberian 1.18
11 Amerindian 1.02
12 South_East_Asian 0.45
13 Melano_Polynesian 0.44
14 Arctic 0.44
15 Khoisan 0.42
16 Australoid 0.42
17 Archaic_Human 0.33
18 Archaic_African 0.12
19 Paleo_Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri ( ) 5.94
2 Turk_Adana ( ) 6.12
3 Kurd_North ( ) 7.02
4 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 8.33
5 Kurd ( ) 9.07
6 Turk ( ) 9.11
7 Kurd_South ( ) 9.18
8 Kurd_East ( ) 9.37
9 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 9.8
10 Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) 10.29
11 Turk_Aydin ( ) 10.71
12 Iraqi_Mandean ( ) 10.95
13 Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) 11.19
14 Baku_WGA ( ) 11.33
15 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 11.37
16 Georgian_Jew ( ) 11.49
17 Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) 11.61
18 Kurd_Jew ( ) 11.96
19 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 12.86
20 Iraki ( ) 13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.8% Kurd ( ) + 45.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) @ 3.55
2 73.4% Azeri ( ) + 26.6% Turk_Balikesir ( ) @ 3.75
3 85.3% Azeri ( ) + 14.7% Libyan_Jew ( ) @ 3.75
4 68.5% Azeri ( ) + 31.5% Turk_Aydin ( ) @ 3.75
5 84.4% Azeri ( ) + 15.6% Moroccan_Jew ( ) @ 3.76
6 85.2% Azeri ( ) + 14.8% Maltese ( ) @ 3.85
7 84.7% Azeri ( ) + 15.3% Tunisian_Jew ( ) @ 3.87
8 84.3% Azeri ( ) + 15.7% Croat ( ) @ 3.91
9 84% Azeri ( ) + 16% Montenegrian ( ) @ 3.91
10 84.1% Azeri ( ) + 15.9% Sicilian_West ( ) @ 3.91
11 84.8% Azeri ( ) + 15.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) @ 3.92
12 88.5% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) + 11.5% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) @ 3.92
13 86.4% Azeri ( ) + 13.6% Hungarian ( ) @ 3.92
14 83.9% Azeri ( ) + 16.1% Bosnian ( ) @ 3.92
15 84.2% Azeri ( ) + 15.8% Serb_BH ( ) @ 3.94
16 85.7% Azeri ( ) + 14.3% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 3.94
17 85.6% Turk_Adana ( ) + 14.4% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) @ 3.94
18 83.8% Azeri ( ) + 16.2% Croat_BH ( ) @ 3.95
19 83.6% Azeri ( ) + 16.4% Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) @ 3.95
20 86.4% Azeri ( ) + 13.6% Slovenian ( ) @ 3.96

Hudayar
09-12-2017, 01:48 AM
I think some Azerbaijanis descended from Alevi Turcomans from Eastern Anatolia. Some Alevi Turks from Eastern Anatolia migrated to Azerbaijan in 16/17th century

Babak
09-12-2017, 01:53 AM
I think some Azerbaijanis descended from Alevi Turcomans from Eastern Anatolia. Some Alevi Turks from Eastern Anatolia migrated to Azerbaijan in 16/17th century

Do you have any from the republic?

Hudayar
09-12-2017, 02:05 AM
Do you have any from the republic?

yes i already posted F900016
from Aghjabadi rayon

Babak
09-12-2017, 02:10 AM
yes i already posted F900016
from Aghjabadi rayon
ah ok

Fedora
09-22-2017, 11:48 PM
I think some Azerbaijanis descended from Alevi Turcomans from Eastern Anatolia. Some Alevi Turks from Eastern Anatolia migrated to Azerbaijan in 16/17th centuryThe majority of the eastern Anatolian alevis are not Turks though but Kurds

Hudayar
09-22-2017, 11:51 PM
The majority of the eastern Anatolian alevis are not Turks though but Kurds

Eastern Anatolian Alevis are mostly Turkish. Majority of Kurdish Alevis are actually Armenians who converted to Alevi Islam to not get deported in early 1900s. Also migration to Azerbaijan/Iran happened around early 1500s

Hadouken
09-23-2017, 01:02 AM
Eastern Anatolian Alevis are mostly Turkish. Majority of Kurdish Alevis are actually Armenians who converted to Alevi Islam to not get deported in early 1900s. Also migration to Azerbaijan/Iran happened around early 1500s

thats not true . it is a myth

we are mostly kurdish . there are only SOME hidden Armenians like that and SOME turks or turkish influence

genetic tests (gedmatch) confirms this too

Hudayar
09-23-2017, 01:10 AM
thats not true . it is a myth

we are mostly kurdish . there are only SOME hidden Armenians like that and SOME turks or turkish influence

genetic tests (gedmatch) confirms this too

Well, Tunceli could be an exception. But how Kurdish are Kurdish Alevis from other cities? Are they Armenian, Kurdish or both? Like Maraş, Erzincan and Elazığ Alevis for example.

Hadouken
09-23-2017, 01:13 AM
Well, Tunceli could be an exception. But how Kurdish are Kurdish Alevis from other cities? Are they Armenian, Kurdish or both? Like Maraş, Erzincan and Elazığ Alevis for example.

I think Maras are Kurdish but they also have people with some /who are Turks/Turkish influence in them I think ...some of them look very turanid even . Erzincan people are mostly Turkish but some erzincanli are people who have roots from Tunceli

Elazig I am not sure

Fedora
09-23-2017, 12:44 PM
Eastern Anatolian Alevis are mostly Turkish. Majority of Kurdish Alevis are actually Armenians who converted to Alevi Islam to not get deported in early 1900s. Also migration to Azerbaijan/Iran happened around early 1500s

You have no clue and just talk! Look genetic results of them and talk! They are genetically closer to Turks than even Armenians......

Hudayar
09-23-2017, 12:50 PM
You have no clue and just talk! Look genetic results of them and talk! They are genetically closer to Turks than even Armenians......

relax. i'm not the authority here, i could be proven wrong or right.

Leto
09-24-2017, 06:05 PM
I only have 2. One of them is obviously mixed though.
These are from the republic and unmixed. As far as I remember, All-In had a sample from Kars, but I don't seem to have the number.
T687893
M833249
M001453

Gangrel
09-24-2017, 06:28 PM
I think Maras are Kurdish but they also have people with some /who are Turks/Turkish influence in them I think ...some of them look very turanid even . Erzincan people are mostly Turkish but some erzincanli are people who have roots from Tunceli

Elazig I am not sure

yep maras alevis are a mix, to the point where my kurdish mother side dont even know kurdish because nobody else in the village spoke it for a long time

Hudayar
09-24-2017, 09:23 PM
These are from the republic and unmixed. As far as I remember, All-In had a sample from Kars, but I don't seem to have the number.
T687893
M833249
M001453

T687893:
MDLP K23
1 50% Iranian_ +50% Turk_ @ 2.603664
55.3% Turk ( ) + 44.7% Iranian ( )
puntDNAL K13 global
1 50% Iranian +50% Turkish_Aydin @ 3.915764

Eurogenes K13
1 50% Iranian_Jewish +25% Kumyk +25% Turkmen @ 2.059955
1 50% Azeri +50% Azeri @ 3.703731


M833249:
MDLP K23
1 50% Kurd_ +50% Turk_Aydin_ @ 4.212451

puntDNAL K13 global
1 50% Iranian +50% Turkish_Aydin @ 1.825870


Eurogenes K13
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri +50% Azeri @ 3.406258
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +25% Tabassaran +25% Turkmen @ 2.464733


M001453:
MDLP K23b
1 50% Kurd_South_ +50% Turk_ @ 4.010705

puntDNAL K13 global
1 50% Iranian +50% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.277951
Oracle1:
4 71.1% Kurdish + 28.9% Turkish_Aydin @ 3.06
5 53.5% Iranian + 46.5% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.11


Results are often like this on other calculators too. Which means that an important part of Azerbaijanis probably descended from Turkish Alevi tribes who migrated to Azerbaijan in 16th century. I could be proven wrong.

Fedora
09-25-2017, 05:13 PM
yep maras alevis are a mix, to the point where my kurdish mother side dont even know kurdish because nobody else in the village spoke it for a long time

Are you from Elbistan or Pazarcik?

Gangrel
09-25-2017, 05:14 PM
Are you from Elbistan or Pazarcik?

Elbistan

Fedora
09-25-2017, 05:15 PM
oralardaki alevi köylü kürtler hepsi avrupaya göc etmis zaten türk köyü olmaya Pazarcik ilcesinde secimlerde AKP, MHP farkla kazaniyor.

Gangrel
09-25-2017, 05:22 PM
oralardaki alevi köylü kürtler hepsi avrupaya göc etmis zaten türk köyü olmaya Pazarcik ilcesinde secimlerde AKP, MHP farkla kazaniyor.

they are CHPli tho

Fedora
09-25-2017, 05:24 PM
they are CHPli tho

Yeah, I mentioned AKP, MHP, Alevis wouldn't vote for that. Almanya'daki Pazarciklilar/Maraslilar ama hepsi PKKLI, Facebookta cok karsilasiyorum :)

Gangrel
09-25-2017, 05:28 PM
Yeah, I mentioned AKP, MHP, Alevis wouldn't vote for that. Almanya'daki Pazarciklilar/Maraslilar ama hepsi PKKLI, Facebookta cok karsilasiyorum :)

En az 80% of Turks/Kurds in UK are alevi (not counting cypriot turks)

Fedora
09-25-2017, 06:04 PM
En az 80% of Turks/Kurds in UK are alevi (not counting cypriot turks)

https://secim.haberler.com/2015/londra-secim-sonuclari/
60% HDP,20% Chp all Kurds

Hadouken
09-25-2017, 06:18 PM
yep maras alevis are a mix, to the point where my kurdish mother side dont even know kurdish because nobody else in the village spoke it for a long time

bendede calclerde türklük sinyalları var . east eurasian ortalamadan yüksek , çoğu zaman azeri ilk fit etc. ama bu tabiki calculatore bağlıda . bazı alevi zaza/kürtler (özellikle zazalar) türk kökenli olduğu bir gercek gibi veya bazı yerlerde biraz karışım olmus zamansnda

benim için zaten fark etmiyor ben ayrim yapmiyorum bence kürt türk zaten herseye ragmen kardestir . bir halk ve bir aile olmusuz . o haric bizim aile dostlarimszsn bir cogu türk zaten . sen bakma benim bazen bazı türklere küfür ettigime ...bazi türk üyeleri beni sinir etmisti o yüzden lol . ama bi kürt üye var o beni daha da sinir ediyor zaman zaman .

adsız
09-25-2017, 06:41 PM
bendede calclerde türklük sinyalları var . east eurasian ortalamadan yüksek , çoğu zaman azeri ilk fit etc. ama bu tabiki calculatore bağlıda . bazı alevi zaza/kürtler (özellikle zazalar) türk kökenli olduğu bir gercek gibi veya bazı yerlerde biraz karışım olmus zamansnda

benim için zaten fark etmiyor ben ayrim yapmiyorum bence kürt türk zaten herseye ragmen kardestir . bir halk ve bir aile olmusuz . o haric bizim aile dostlarimszsn bir cogu türk zaten . sen bakma benim bazen bazı türklere küfür ettigime ...bazi türk üyeleri beni sinir etmisti o yüzden lol . ama bi kürt üye var o beni daha da sinir ediyor zaman zaman .

Tunceli yenilere kadar nispeten dışa kapalı, izole bir yaşantı sürmüş. Eskiden Alevilerin dışardan kız alışverişi olmazdı. Buna rağmen genlerinde az da olsa Türklük varsa, eminim damarlarında bir Şah İsmail kanı da olabilir.

Zaza referans grubun kalkulatorlarda bulunmayışı Zaza olan herkesi kürt yapıyor, sanırım. Belki de Zazalar Azeri Türklerine genetik olarak benzerdir.

Hadouken
09-25-2017, 06:47 PM
Tunceli yenilere kadar nispeten dışa kapalı, izole bir yaşantı sürmüş. Eskiden Alevilerin dışardan kız alışverişi olmazdı. Buna rağmen genlerinde az da olsa Türklük varsa, eminim damarlarında bir Şah İsmail kanı da olabilir.

Zaza referans grubun kalkulatorlarda bulunmayışı Zaza olan herkesi kürt yapıyor, sanırım. Belki de Zazalar Azeri Türklerine genetik olarak benzerdir.

tunceli sadece zaza degil ama . kurmanci ve zaza karisimiyiz . alevi zaza ve kürtlerin bir kismi türk kökenli sanirim . ve dedigim gibi benim cogu zaman ilk fittim azeri oluyor ve ching chong ortalamadan fazla lol . ama yinede cogunluk olarak kürdüz buda bir gercek .

yinede dedigim gibi bu benim icin fark etmiyor . ben ayrim yapmiyorum :)

adsız
09-25-2017, 06:51 PM
tunceli sadece zaza degil ama . kurmanci ve zaza karisimiyiz . alevi zaza ve kürtlerin bir kismi türk kökenli sanirim . ve dedigim gibi benim cogu zaman ilk fittim azeri oluyor ve ching chong ortalamadan fazla lol . ama yinede cogunluk olarak kürdüz buda bir gercek .

yinede dedigim gibi bu benim icin fark etmiyor . ben ayrim yapmiyorum :)

Baban-Deden kendilerini nasıl tanımlıyor? Çok özel değilse..

StarDS9
09-25-2017, 06:59 PM
Eastern Anatolian Alevis are mostly Turkish. Majority of Kurdish Alevis are actually Armenians who converted to Alevi Islam to not get deported in early 1900s. Also migration to Azerbaijan/Iran happened around early 1500s

Sorry but that is Bullshit. My family are Alevis from Malatya/Elbistan and my always keep saying that we came from North Iran, and here are my results and also note that I am 1/8 Circassian.

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.68
2 South_Central_Asian 25.71
3 Near_East 9.79
4 European_Early_Farmers 5.18
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 4.71
6 South_Indian 3.42
7 Ancestral_Altaic 3.39
8 North_African 2.66
9 Arctic 1.52
10 South_East_Asian 1.11
11 East_Siberian 1.01
12 Amerindian 0.6
13 Archaic_African 0.42
14 East_African 0.41
15 Tungus-Altaic 0.21
16 Archaic_Human 0.18


1 Azeri ( ) 3.39
2 Kurd_North ( ) 3.7
3 Kurd ( ) 3.83
4 Kurd_East ( ) 4.42
5 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 5.83
6 Baku_WGA ( ) 5.93
7 Kurd_South ( ) 6.39
8 Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) 9.71
9 Azeri_Dagestan ( ) 10.43
10 Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) 11.02
11 Turk_Adana ( ) 11.04
12 Iraqi_Mandean ( ) 11.56
13 Tabassaran ( ) 11.78
14 Kurd_Jew ( ) 11.86
15 Lak ( ) 12.21
16 Lezgin ( ) 12.59
17 Georgian_Jew ( ) 12.83
18 Turk ( ) 12.97
19 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 12.98
20 Avar ( ) 13.09


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.8% Kurd_East ( ) + 18.2% Kabardin ( ) @ 1.72
2 78.9% Kurd_East ( ) + 21.1% Kumyk ( ) @ 1.75
3 81.5% Kurd_East ( ) + 18.5% Chechen ( ) @ 1.82
4 85.5% Kurd_East ( ) + 14.5% Balkar ( ) @ 1.82
5 85.7% Kurd_East ( ) + 14.3% North_Ossetian ( ) @ 1.86
6 84.7% Kurd_East ( ) + 15.3% Adygei ( ) @ 1.87
7 80.7% Kurd_East ( ) + 19.3% Cirkassian ( ) @ 1.88
8 85.9% Kurd_East ( ) + 14.1% Circassian ( ) @ 1.92
9 74.6% Kurd_South ( ) + 25.4% Chechen ( ) @ 2.04
10 86.6% Kurd_East ( ) + 13.4% Ossetian ( ) @ 2.07
11 78.6% Kurd_South ( ) + 21.4% Adygei ( ) @ 2.11
12 80.7% Kurd_South ( ) + 19.3% Ossetian ( ) @ 2.17
13 75.2% Kurd_South ( ) + 24.8% Kabardin ( ) @ 2.18
14 80% Kurd_South ( ) + 20% North_Ossetian ( ) @ 2.21
15 79.8% Kurd_South ( ) + 20.2% Balkar ( ) @ 2.22
16 71.6% Kurd_South ( ) + 28.4% Kumyk ( ) @ 2.23
17 72.8% Kurd_East ( ) + 27.2% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 2.25
18 91% Kurd ( ) + 9% Roma ( ) @ 2.28
19 86.3% Kurd_South ( ) + 13.7% Abkhasian ( ) @ 2.32
20 90.9% Kurd ( ) + 9.1% Roma_Slovenian ( ) @ 2.41

Hadouken
09-25-2017, 07:00 PM
Baban-Deden kendilerini nasıl tanımlıyor? Çok özel değilse..

kürt olarak

türklük varsa eger nine taraflarimdan geliyor büyük olasılıkla .mesela rahmetli babaannemin aile tarafindan bazı kişiler "biz kürt degiliz " demiş. annem bana öyle anlatti ama ne kadar dogru (yani ne kadar dogru hatirliyor) bilemem.

benim tahminim babaannem ve annemin anneannesi türk kökenli olma ihtimali var . ama "baba neyse sen osun" gibi düsünce oldugu icin bu belki pek masa üstüne gelmemis . ya da hic bilinen birsey olmamistir bile

ama tahminim dogruysa dolaysiyla 30-40% türklük var bende demek olur ve calclerde toplam olarak baktigimda ve biraz hesaladigimda 35% civari türk shift var . zaten bu sonuc benim tahminimi olusturdu

ama baba , dede filan genelde kürdüz diyor , bende zaten öyle diyorum (gercek hayatdada)

adsız
09-25-2017, 07:15 PM
kürt olarak

türklük varsa eger nine taraflarimdan geliyor büyük olasılıkla .mesela rahmetli babaannemin aile tarafindan bazı kişiler "biz kürt degiliz " demiş. annem bana öyle anlatti ama ne kadar dogru (yani ne kadar dogru hatirliyor) bilemem.

benim tahminim babaannem ve annemin anneannesi türk kökenli olma ihtimali var . ama "baba neyse sen osun" gibi düsünce oldugu icin bu belki pek masa üstüne gelmemis . ya da hic bilinen birsey olmamistir bile

ama tahminim dogruysa dolaysiyla 30-40% türklük var bende demek olur ve calclerde toplam olarak baktigimda ve biraz hesaladigimda 35% civari türk shift var . zaten bu sonuc benim tahminimi olusturdu

ama baba , dede filan genelde kürdüz diyor , bende zaten öyle diyorum (gercek hayatdada)

Babaanne-annenin anneannesinin ailesi de dedenle aynı köyden mi imiş?

Hadouken
09-25-2017, 07:17 PM
Babaanne-annenin anneannesinin ailesi de dedenle aynı köyden mi imiş?

bilmiyorum abi :-/ sormadım

ailemin coguylan bağım yok zaten

Fedora
09-25-2017, 08:04 PM
Baban-Deden kendilerini nasıl tanımlıyor? Çok özel değilse..
Halki göruyosun bak kendilerini böyle tanimliyorlar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_cK-U9suY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiHAgm3B0ps

"Amina koyduklarimi"
"PKK Halktir" etc