Classify Ex-Pm of Kazakhstan, Karim Massimov

[Hudayar]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Karim_Massimov_February_2015.jpg
https://en.tengrinews.kz/userdata/news_en/2015/news_260112/photo_48768.jpg
https://gdb.rferl.org/8EBFDA6F-08BB-4016-8069-36F8DDFF3D48_mw800_mh600.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/748872338922278913/OTUVBdAN.jpg
https://cdn1.img.ria.ru/images/100226/90/1002269092.jpg
https://gdb.rferl.org/3948DC23-C085-45B5-B0C2-A79A90AEAD54_mw1024_mh1024_r1_s.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrVAAzrUMAAh2-0.jpg

[n1KITA]

Turanid

[Pahli]

Looks smth like part Japanese part Tajik, Turanid

[Crimean]

Aralid.

[Diocleatian204]

Mixed Mestizo

[Hudayar]

Mixed Mestizo

bruh

[Demon Revival]

Better looking version of Nicolas Maduro.

[Hudayar]

Lol he does look like Maduro

[Odin]

Iranid + Aralid.

[Seya]

he doesn't look kazakh at all..he's probably uyghur or something. Karim is not a kazakh name either

[n1KITA]

look typical Central Asian !

[Kriptc06]

he would look mixed with iberian, can pass in almost all latin america, as someone said resembles Nicolas Mauro, and to me he looks a bit Mexican.

[Maguzanci]

he would look mixed with iberian, can pass in almost all latin america, as someone said resembles Nicolas Mauro, and to me he looks a bit Mexican.

How typical is his look in Brazil? Would he be considered Balanced or Indomestizo by his phenotype?

It's very interesting how he end up looking Latin American despite coming from a completely opposite side of the globe.

[Kriptc06]

How typical is his look in Brazil? Would he be considered Balanced or Indomestizo by his phenotype?

It's very interesting how he end up looking Latin American despite coming from a completely opposite side of the globe.

well its not a surprise to me some mestizos, harnizos pass as 'turk', and vice-versa, amerindians came from Asia, a long time ago, altai region, among other regions, so its an ancient link.
Look at my mtdna, its amerindian, and I have matches in HVR1 in China and Korea. The common clades there descend from D4,so does D1, so we are 'cousins'.
https://anthropologynet.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ancient-american-mtdna-greenland-cladogram.jpg
He can pass in Brazil, no problem, would be a 'mestizo' even tho we dont use such term, its more common in spanish america.

[Nurzat]

he doesn't look kazakh at all..he's probably uyghur or something. Karim is not a kazakh name either

a whole lot of southeast Romanians look like that in his age. very common look

[Maguzanci]

well its not a surprise to me some mestizos, harnizos pass as 'turk', and vice-versa, amerindians came from Asia, a long time ago, altai region, among other regions, so its an ancient link.
Look at my mtdna, its amerindian, and I have matches in HVR1 in China and Korea. The common clades there descend from D4,so does D1, so we are 'cousins'.
https://anthropologynet.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ancient-american-mtdna-greenland-cladogram.jpg
He can pass in Brazil, no problem, would be a 'mestizo' even tho we dont use such term, its more common in spanish america.

Thanks for sharing your mtdna. Hmm maybe it is the ANE connection as well as Amerindians and Turks/Central Asians have pretty significant ANE. Also maybe it is the similar amount of Eastern and Western Eurasian components that cause some overlap in phenotypes. I saw a thread on ABF that Ubirajara, a Brazilian member (he is also here under the username curupira) says sevreal Mexicans cluster with Central Asians like Uyghurs, Uzbeks, Hazaras on 23andme due to similar amount of Eastern and Western Eurasian components.

Is there a particular region in Brazil where his look would be more typical than the rest of the country? Also what term do you used?

[Seya]

a whole lot of southeast Romanians look like that in his age. very common look

yeah..even "worse"..this guy is a south east romanian, for example :lol:
https://i.imgur.com/JBAoCdJ.jpg
i should put him up for a classification ))))

[RMuller]

He can pass for Mexican.

[Maguzanci]

He can pass for Mexican.

Which province or region of Mexico would he pass easiest? Also would he be considered Balanced or Indomestizo phenotypically?

[Sacrificed Ram]

In brazilian city of São Paulo is very common the lebanese and japanese, then he can fit there. However, after 500 years Brazil has few amerinds (817 963 people), then mestizo look isn't very common here and located to some places.

He resembles a turkmen version of Saddam Hussein. Taurid+Turanid.

[Maguzanci]

In brazilian city of São Paulo is very common the lebanese and japanese, then he can fit there. However, after 500 years Brazil has few amerinds (817 963 people), then mestizo look isn't very common here and located to some places.

He resembles a turkmen version of Saddam Hussein. Taurid+Turanid.

Why can he fit among lebanese and japanese in Sao Paulo? Where has this mestizo look gone?

[blogen]

https://cdn1.img.ria.ru/images/100226/90/1002269092.jpg

Andronovo Turanid, here is a very close Hungarian sample:
https://i.img.ie/07d.jpg

[Hudayar]

he doesn't look kazakh at all..he's probably uyghur or something. Karim is not a kazakh name either

Is he really Uyghur though? Can any Kazakh confirm it?

[Kamal900]

He does look kinda Iraqi to me.

[Gangrel]

no way he is full blooded kazakh

[Seya]

Is he really Uyghur though? Can any Kazakh confirm it?

i don't know if he's uyghur or not but he looks like one. he's definitely not kazakh tho

[JMack]

Why can he fit among lebanese and japanese in Sao Paulo? Where has this mestizo look gone?

This guy pass best as North Brazilian. He can't pass as typical in São Paulo. He can pass in São Paulo because most people from any single part of Brazil can pass in other regions due to internal migrations, but he doesn't have a look typical of people originally from São Paulo. Most people in São Paulo are Italian/Spanish/Portuguese and German. He can't pass.

Japanese are a minority and Lebanese here don't look like this on average. These are typical Lebanese phenotypes I see here:

http://www.testonoticias.com.br/polopoly_fs/1.1974944.1495310294!/imagens/14951365107720.jpg

http://www.aspacer.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Skaf.jpg

These guys would pass better in Europe than in Central Asia.

I have seen a minority of Lebanese with a Mestizo look, perhaps he could pass among them. This Brazilian actor claims to be 100% Lebanese:

https://s1.vagalume.com/mauricio-mattar/images/profile-bigw314.jpg

But he looks Mestizo. A bit similar to the Kazakh guy.

[Visitor_22]

He is ethnic uyghur from Kazakhstan.


Uyghur man from China


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSro-4QgJ1U


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Kazakhs on other hand look a bit different

https://forbes.kz/img/articles/737d675c852feb81e0ba8afc61f9bb9a-small.jpg

http://www.volley.kz/commands_foto/b955310a14925396dc25dab66a707a57.jpg

https://tengrinews.kz/userdata/11179979_898625500181144_8390474644994252930_n.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l7KjBazOzo

[Visitor_22]

he doesn't look kazakh at all..he's probably uyghur or something. Karim is not a kazakh name either

You are right. He is ethnic Uyghur.