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Loki
09-19-2017, 11:58 PM
I just watched a few clips from his speech at the UN General Assembly. It couldn't be more convincing. Well.. I think there will be a lot of people in America, who voted Trump into power, who will be very disappointed. What he has said now is pretty much in direct contrast to his campaign promises on foreign policy. And America wants to tell the world they're the champions of democracy? Come on. Democracy means rule of the people. It is not in today's America. At all.

ps: I'll be looking for a new avatar.

Loki
09-20-2017, 12:09 AM
Donald Trump's foreign policy is now officially ISRAEL FIRST!

Decius
09-20-2017, 12:10 AM
I just watched a few clips from his speech at the UN General Assembly. It couldn't be more convincing. Well.. I think there will be a lot of people in America, who voted Trump into power, who will be very disappointed. What he has said now is pretty much in direct contrast to his campaign promises on foreign policy. And America wants to tell the world they're the champions of democracy? Come on. Democracy means rule of the people. It is not in today's America. At all.

ps: I'll be looking for a new avatar.

Use Putin as your avatar

Potentia
09-20-2017, 12:30 AM
I just watched a few clips from his speech at the UN General Assembly. It couldn't be more convincing. Well.. I think there will be a lot of people in America, who voted Trump into power, who will be very disappointed. What he has said now is pretty much in direct contrast to his campaign promises on foreign policy. And America wants to tell the world they're the champions of democracy? Come on. Democracy means rule of the people. It is not in today's America. At all.

ps: I'll be looking for a new avatar.

Wow.

You actually fell for his lies? Hold on, let me take a moment to literally fucking die of laughter.

1R0N M4N XL
09-20-2017, 12:56 AM
Donald Trump's foreign policy is now officially ISRAEL FIRST!

LOKI watch this... welcome to american politics.. america will protect israel, even if it starts ww3.. ( republicans or democrats)
i met hilary clinton twice.. she almost became the u.s president..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWAFvIT-NHs

TEUTORIGOS
09-20-2017, 01:00 AM
I just watched a few clips from his speech at the UN General Assembly. It couldn't be more convincing. Well.. I think there will be a lot of people in America, who voted Trump into power, who will be very disappointed. What he has said now is pretty much in direct contrast to his campaign promises on foreign policy. And America wants to tell the world they're the champions of democracy? Come on. Democracy means rule of the people. It is not in today's America. At all.

ps: I'll be looking for a new avatar.

America is not a democracy it is an oligarchy :

Researchers from Princeton University and Northwestern University have concluded, after extensive analysis of 1,779 policy issues, that the U.S. is in fact an oligarchy and not a democracy. What this means is that, although 'Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance,' 'majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts.' Their study (PDF), that was published in Perspectives on Politics, found that 'When the preferences of economic elites and the stands of organized interest groups are controlled for, the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/04/14/us-oligarchy-not-democracy-says-scientific-study

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

However, it is not like places like Russia and China (the alternative powers to America) are democracies either. Russia and China are autocratic capitalist systems.

Drawing-slim
09-20-2017, 01:23 AM
Any american president that makes Netanyahu that happy is no fucking good. Nothing against jewish people in general since there are millions who hate Netanyahu but its sickening watching that guy shamelessly pretending to be the good guy in front of all nations.

Linebacker
09-20-2017, 01:31 AM
I dont see whats wrong with supporting Israel.

Israel needs to be supported,they are surrounded by filthy Muslim Arabs and MENA that want dem dere holy lands fierce.

Anyone who sides with a Muslim over a Jew is ridiculous.

1R0N M4N XL
09-20-2017, 01:56 AM
from articles i read..

muslims and jews used to get along... muslims even saved jews from ''Holocaust''
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-22176928

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JxL1idcI8o

it was only after the state of israel reborn 1948, where the hate started coming..

Hexachordia
09-20-2017, 08:11 AM
There is no a single political persona that is not a puppet of greater interests, all politicians are puppets of some kind of syndicate interests. Do you think that zionists are the real jews? No, zionists are puppets of the Catholic empire that is hidden behind all western national systems, the real jewish people are the christians. Communists are the lowest kind of puppets, the soulless papermen of the Church of Satan, if there are many puppets of any kind to the internationalist syndicates in every country.

EuropeanVlachSon
09-20-2017, 08:17 AM
Why you dont change your Trump avatar?

Oh now I have read, I just woke up

Armenian Bishop
09-20-2017, 08:30 AM
Donald Trump's foreign policy is now officially ISRAEL FIRST!

I think that Trump's Jewish son-in-law, Jerad Kushner, has had much to do with his "Israel First" foreign policy standard.

EuropeanVlachSon
09-20-2017, 08:57 AM
This is hist best speech, I think he will win more votes after this

Melki
09-20-2017, 11:59 AM
As usual, I didn't expect anything clever and wise from him. He has always been mentally unstable and unpredictable. This time, he acted as a buffoon in front of the delegates of 193 nations.
Destroying "Rocketman" ? How? American intercontinental ballistic missiles could not only nuke North Korea, but also irradiate South Korea, Japan, North-east China and the Primorsky oblast in Russia.
Even tough Putin calls for end to intimidation of North Korea.
No, Mr. Trump is not the new Reagan, he's even far from being the new Nixon.

catgeorge
09-20-2017, 12:03 PM
Aristotle was always right when he said in Democracy the people who rule are always of a lower substance. Look at the world today... even the arts are tasteless and this should never be said, but it is.

Monarchy is trained from an infant to rule for the good of all.

Gleaves
09-20-2017, 12:07 PM
I was really positively surprised by his speech.
He is definitely a fire breather, i can't recall when was the last time someone spoke so fiercely against terrorist states like he did.
Incredibly positive change when you look back on Obama.

Loki
09-20-2017, 01:45 PM
Wow.

You actually fell for his lies? Hold on, let me take a moment to literally fucking die of laughter.

I gave him a chance, let's put it that way. Why not? Didn't have anything to lose on the political front. But of course I'm watching from a distance since I'm not a US citizen and can't vote in US elections.

Loki
09-20-2017, 01:51 PM
LOKI watch this... welcome to american politics.. america will protect israel, even if it starts ww3.. ( republicans or democrats)
i met hilary clinton twice.. she almost became the u.s president..


That's shocking. What is your view regarding this?

Loki
09-20-2017, 02:00 PM
I dont see whats wrong with supporting Israel.

Israel needs to be supported,they are surrounded by filthy Muslim Arabs and MENA that want dem dere holy lands fierce.

Anyone who sides with a Muslim over a Jew is ridiculous.

There is nothing wrong with supporting Israel. Until it becomes to one's own detriment. Then it's not so good anymore. Then it is Israel first, America second. Not the way it's supposed to be.

Loki
09-20-2017, 02:03 PM
I think that Trump's Jewish son-in-law, Jerad Kushner, has had much to do with his "Israel First" foreign policy standard.

Also, the lure of actually not having everyone in Congress having a go at him. They have tired him down so much with their attacks on him and their hatred, that it is a relief for him now to pursue policies which will actually please them. Hence, another incentive.

Loki
09-20-2017, 02:15 PM
I was really positively surprised by his speech.
He is definitely a fire breather, i can't recall when was the last time someone spoke so fiercely against terrorist states like he did.
Incredibly positive change when you look back on Obama.

This is the sort of response I would expect from a Jew, and I have seen many Jews on Twitter congratulating Trump.

And no, he didn't speak against "terrorist states". He didn't even mention Saudi Arabia.

Gleaves
09-20-2017, 02:31 PM
This is the sort of response I would expect from a Jew, and I have seen many Jews on Twitter congratulating Trump.

And no, he didn't speak against "terrorist states". He didn't even mention Saudi Arabia.


Well, i am not fully Jewish, but i found it really nice that after all anti-Jewish activity in UN, Trump finally spoke what every decent person believes.
He made strong points about North Korea,Iran, and what surprised me most - Socialism. Finally we have a president who is willing to tackle not only authoritarian regimes, but authoritarian ideologies who are responsible for millions of deaths across the world.

There was nothing not to like in that speech.

Loki
09-20-2017, 02:36 PM
Well, i am not fully Jewish, but i found it really nice that after all anti-Jewish activity in UN, Trump finally spoke what every decent person believes.
He made strong points about North Korea,Iran, and what surprised me most - Socialism. Finally we have a president who is willing to tackle not only authoritarian regimes, but authoritarian ideologies who are responsible for millions of deaths across the world.


I'm decent and I don't.



There was nothing not to like in that speech.

There was nothing to like about it.

Gleaves
09-20-2017, 02:53 PM
Looks to me that we are about to see much more active role from USA across the world.
Ill rather see them in such action than China.

Loki
09-20-2017, 03:26 PM
Looks to me that we are about to see much more active role from USA across the world.
Ill rather see them in such action than China.

Perhaps. America likes to talk, though.

1R0N M4N XL
09-20-2017, 08:10 PM
That's shocking. What is your view regarding this?

the way i see it, it will start world war 3 as russia/china will back iran and won't let america dominate the middle east..

i will probably get drafted to serve in the military.. when it kicks off. even i don't believe in it, i have to do my obligation as u.s citizen .

StonyArabia
09-20-2017, 08:14 PM
Trump is a puppet, like most Anglo-Americans, he also Freemason of the Scottish Rite. Freemasons are the ones who control things behind the scenes.

Svipdag
09-20-2017, 08:59 PM
It is a rare, if not unique, idiot who makes himself a billionaire through his own efforts.

ЛыSSый
09-20-2017, 09:14 PM
I just watched a few clips from his speech at the UN General Assembly. It couldn't be more convincing. Well.. I think there will be a lot of people in America, who voted Trump into power, who will be very disappointed. What he has said now is pretty much in direct contrast to his campaign promises on foreign policy. And America wants to tell the world they're the champions of democracy? Come on. Democracy means rule of the people. It is not in today's America. At all.
Democracy is the dictationship of democrats



ps: I'll be looking for a new avatar.

http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/end/ris86.jpg

ЛыSSый
09-20-2017, 10:16 PM
loki, also

https://sfw.so/uploads/fotos/foto_8676.jpg

Armenian Bishop
09-20-2017, 10:17 PM
loki, also

https://sfw.so/uploads/fotos/foto_8676.jpg

Something a little more mature & sober might be better. Or am I missing something there?

ЛыSSый
09-20-2017, 10:52 PM
Something a little more mature & sober might be better. Or am I missing something there?

http://cs10175.vk.me/u13097412/126098224/x_a7fc3ef6.jpg

magyar_lány
09-20-2017, 11:00 PM
A Putin avatar would be an amazing choice to you.:)

https://putinlol.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/putin.jpg

Dragoon
09-20-2017, 11:02 PM
Of course he is puppet. This is common sense.

All US presidents are puppets or shot.

He is clearly part of the Zionist camp.
Increasing Globalist and Neocon influences.

Armenian Bishop
09-20-2017, 11:08 PM
http://cs10175.vk.me/u13097412/126098224/x_a7fc3ef6.jpg

That looks better, as a positive note for an Avatar. I'm not a fan of Lenin, but you've got the right idea. I think Yeltsin was right to endorse the canonization of Czar Nicholas II, and his family.

By the way, I support Putin for bringing the Crimea back into Russia, and the same goes for his measures to defend the Russians in the Ukraine.

Сербо Макеридов
09-21-2017, 03:43 AM
Trump is Zionist puppet without any doubt.

Kamal900
09-21-2017, 03:49 AM
Pretty much really. Brother Nathaniel already have said that Trump is nothing more than a Zionist shill for the Jewish oligarchs that are controlling America. It is disappointing that he keeps on flip-flopping the issues that are destroying the US and the world.

Profileid
09-21-2017, 04:02 AM
Pretty much really. Brother Nathaniel already have said that Trump is nothing more than a Zionist shill for the Jewish oligarchs that are controlling America. It is disappointing that he keeps on flip-flopping the issues that are destroying the US and the world.

"Brother" Nathaniel conveniently omits how close Putin himself is with Jews.

Crn Volk
09-21-2017, 04:03 AM
https://francisparkeryockey.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Jew-Puppet-Trump-Dumps-Bannon-For-Kushner-Bombs-Syria.jpg

Loki
09-21-2017, 04:25 AM
It is a rare, if not unique, idiot who makes himself a billionaire through his own efforts.

Indeed.

Loki
09-21-2017, 04:29 AM
A Putin avatar would be an amazing choice to you.:)

https://putinlol.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/putin.jpg

Thanks :)

I already sported a very good Putin avatar in the past. Perhaps something different this time.

Loki
09-21-2017, 04:32 AM
It is disappointing that he keeps on flip-flopping the issues that are destroying the US and the world.

What do you mean?

Profileid
09-21-2017, 04:33 AM
ok then I guess this didn't happen and I'm imagining it

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/51184

Hamlet
09-21-2017, 04:34 AM
I agree he's a puppet - in fact (and maybe one of you can quote me) I think he's going to have a BIG war under his term/terms in charge, probably Iran. I don't believe the powers that be would allow one election to potentially affect their control, let alone to sabotage 20+ years of foreign policy in the making. And, if you were part of the powers that be, who better to frame a big war on than Trump - HE would take the blame, not the government. And, to top it off, I also predict he will be assassinated toward the end or after the end of that big war.

Lemon Kush
09-21-2017, 04:35 AM
So?

Loki
09-21-2017, 04:36 AM
Of course he is puppet. This is common sense.

All US presidents are puppets or shot.

He is clearly part of the Zionist camp.
Increasing Globalist and Neocon influences.

America needs an awakening. It will be difficult because every facet of society is already under enemy control effectively. But it's still worth a try. If nothing works anymore, torch the house instead of bequeathing it to the enemy.

Kamal900
09-21-2017, 04:36 AM
What do you mean?

I'll give you an example. Back in 2011, he talked about how it is very damaging to the economy of the US by fighting against the Taliban in Afghanistan, and yet, in 2017, he talked about expanding the war in the country even further which completely contradicts on what he said a few years ago. Also, remember the bill board he put up that read "America first, not Israel" during his presidential campaign? Well, he buried that under the rug and still continues to put Israel's interests above America's.

Loki
09-21-2017, 04:39 AM
ok then I guess this didn't happen and I'm imagining it

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/51184

What about it? lol. Nobody said it was taboo to talk to Jews. As long as you don't hand your country and all your resources over to them.

Hamlet
09-21-2017, 04:40 AM
America needs an awakening. It will be difficult because every facet of society is already under enemy control effectively. But it's still worth a try. If nothing works anymore, torch the house instead of bequeathing it to the enemy.

This is one thing I don't understand, why bother fighting, and what could you even do? Violence won't solve anything as they would have an entire police force, and there's no point trying to convince the public about anything as (1) the public are too hedonistic to care and (2) the public can't do shit, even if you could somehow convince them over the chatter of MSM.

The only strategy is to create your own separate microsociety. No glorious Empire, but you could identical lives exactly as if you were part of one.

Loki
09-21-2017, 04:41 AM
I agree he's a puppet - in fact (and maybe one of you can quote me) I think he's going to have a BIG war under his term/terms in charge, probably Iran. I don't believe the powers that be would allow one election to potentially affect their control, let alone to sabotage 20+ years of foreign policy in the making. And, if you were part of the powers that be, who better to frame a big war on than Trump - HE would take the blame, not the government. And, to top it off, I also predict he will be assassinated toward the end or after the end of that big war.

They want a war with Iran, but I'm not sure they will be able to get it. Not yet, anyway. There is too much opposition to that in Europe and among America's allies.

Potentia
09-21-2017, 04:43 AM
I gave him a chance, let's put it that way. Why not? Didn't have anything to lose on the political front. But of course I'm watching from a distance since I'm not a US citizen and can't vote in US elections.

You do realize that your views are pretty extremist, right?

In the West, there are very few people who share your views. They are not going to elect someone that has your views.

Kamal900
09-21-2017, 04:45 AM
What about it? lol. Nobody said it was taboo to talk to Jews. As long as you don't hand your country and all your resources over to them.

Yeah. Putin is much more neutral than his American counterparts.

Hamlet
09-21-2017, 04:48 AM
They want a war with Iran, but I'm not sure they will be able to get it. Not yet, anyway. There is too much opposition to that in Europe and among America's allies.

I am very sure that they will get it, and also that they will get it within Trump's regime.

I also believe that the plan is to create a Reichstag fire-esque scenario within America, first by creating opposition (as in, whatever has lead to believe what you believe - someone left those crumbs out in the open purposefully, anticipating a reaction. Other example include terrorist bombings - I think they are allowed to happen in many cases, with the intention of provoking) and secondly using that reaction to justify SOMETHING, though I'm not quite sure what yet. Hegelian Dialectics, innit. For example, why would they be so sloppy with the whole WTC 7 thing, THE BBC ANNOUNCED IT HAD FALLEN BEFORE IT HAD FALLEN! There's a very simple way to combat this - don't feed the BBC any info, just let them get their own. If you truly wanted to make 9/11 a watertight secret, you wouldn't have fed the BBC info, as they clear did with the whole WTC 7 prophecy thing. I genuinely believe these are breadcrumbs being left purposefully, as that is SUCH a dumb error.

I ALSO believe that it's not just Jews, as do you really think the West would be so utterly inept and braindead as to hand over their entire nation to be dominated by a bunch of Jews - I think Jews are very big power players and also that they are the masterminds behind this, but I also feel that this is not a Jewish conspiracy against the West, rather it is (get ready) set up for a NWO of sorts.

zhaoyun
09-21-2017, 05:29 AM
ok then I guess this didn't happen and I'm imagining it

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/51184

Good god, could this guy (on the right) be more of a stereotype? LOL

http://static.kremlin.ru/media/events/photos/big/sRuXUvhuDXEotgRINzbySieqVx4fP0mU.jpg

zhaoyun
09-21-2017, 05:31 AM
Pretty much really. Brother Nathaniel already have said that Trump is nothing more than a Zionist shill for the Jewish oligarchs that are controlling America. It is disappointing that he keeps on flip-flopping the issues that are destroying the US and the world.

At this point, I think the best thing about Trump's presidency is just his exposing the hypocrisy of the mainstream media and the political establishment, even if he is gradually being incorporated into that same establishment.

Loki
09-21-2017, 02:11 PM
You do realize that your views are pretty extremist, right?


Depends who you ask, and how you define "extremist". I am no extremist, and don't consider my views extremist at all. I consider them to be very reasonable, as I am in general a reasonable person.



In the West, there are very few people who share your views. They are not going to elect someone that has your views.

I'm not running for election.

Loki
09-21-2017, 02:16 PM
I am very sure that they will get it, and also that they will get it within Trump's regime.


We'll see, you may be right.

Loki
09-21-2017, 02:28 PM
At this point, I think the best thing about Trump's presidency is just his exposing the hypocrisy of the mainstream media and the political establishment, even if he is gradually being incorporated into that same establishment.

Absolutely. The enemy has truly let their guard down since the 2016 elections... and shown their hand openly. For what it's worth. Obviously they think they are now in such a strong position that they are invincible. And some of us got wiser in the process. A lot wiser.

Loki
09-21-2017, 02:32 PM
I agree he's a puppet - in fact (and maybe one of you can quote me) I think he's going to have a BIG war under his term/terms in charge, probably Iran. I don't believe the powers that be would allow one election to potentially affect their control, let alone to sabotage 20+ years of foreign policy in the making. And, if you were part of the powers that be, who better to frame a big war on than Trump - HE would take the blame, not the government. And, to top it off, I also predict he will be assassinated toward the end or after the end of that big war.

That would be a brilliant plan: use Trump to once and for all get rid of the Persians (Iran), and then when all is done, blame it on evil, racist Trump, and get rid of him.

Loki
09-21-2017, 02:38 PM
This is one thing I don't understand, why bother fighting, and what could you even do? Violence won't solve anything as they would have an entire police force, and there's no point trying to convince the public about anything as (1) the public are too hedonistic to care and (2) the public can't do shit, even if you could somehow convince them over the chatter of MSM.

The only strategy is to create your own separate microsociety. No glorious Empire, but you could identical lives exactly as if you were part of one.

Hmm that's no long-term solution, and a sure road to eventual oblivion. The answer is of course out of reach of Americans at this point in time. The answer is this: have the full power and resources of the state at your disposal, and against the enemy. Also, the full resources of the most influential cultural institutions. Where is it in action: in today's Russia.

zhaoyun
09-21-2017, 02:45 PM
Absolutely. The enemy has truly let their guard down since the 2016 elections... and shown their hand openly. For what it's worth. Obviously they think they are now in such a strong position that they are invincible. And some of us got wiser in the process. A lot wiser.

The thing is, in the past, you were seen as paranoid when you talked about how the media and political establishment were actively pushing an agenda and disseminating lies in order to achieve it. But Trump has pretty much exposed a whole rift of that to much of the public, at least to those paying attention. It's becoming more obvious that there is certainly a propaganda machine at work that controls our information.

zhaoyun
09-21-2017, 02:45 PM
That would be a brilliant plan: use Trump to once and for all get rid of the Persians (Iran), and then when all is done, blame it on evil, racist Trump, and get rid of him.

Not gonna happen, at least not a full scale invasion of Iran. A limited incursion or a one time attack, I won't rule out.

Loki
09-21-2017, 03:47 PM
The thing is, in the past, you were seen as paranoid when you talked about how the media and political establishment were actively pushing an agenda and disseminating lies in order to achieve it. But Trump has pretty much exposed a whole rift of that to much of the public, at least to those paying attention. It's becoming more obvious that there is certainly a propaganda machine at work that controls our information.

I don't think anyone will view CNN with the same eyes again. And that's a brilliant result in itself. People now see that's it's not merely a conspiracy theory that the popular mainstream media is controlled, and strongly at that, by someone with ulterior motives beyond just spreading the news.

Hamlet
09-21-2017, 04:14 PM
That would be a brilliant plan: use Trump to once and for all get rid of the Persians (Iran), and then when all is done, blame it on evil, racist Trump, and get rid of him.

That's what I think he's there for, again, quote me in 4 years if I'm right :P

Hamlet
09-21-2017, 04:18 PM
Hmm that's no long-term solution, and a sure road to eventual oblivion. The answer is of course out of reach of Americans at this point in time. The answer is this: have the full power and resources of the state at your disposal, and against the enemy. Also, the full resources of the most influential cultural institutions. Where is it in action: in today's Russia.

But Russians are, well, Russian, and autarky isn't an option if you're Russia.

Loki
09-21-2017, 05:21 PM
That's what I think he's there for, again, quote me in 4 years if I'm right :P

We should hold these comments on ice, frame it, and when it happens get it out and say: I told you so! ;)

Breitbart
09-21-2017, 05:41 PM
I just watched a few clips from his speech at the UN General Assembly. It couldn't be more convincing. Well.. I think there will be a lot of people in America, who voted Trump into power, who will be very disappointed. What he has said now is pretty much in direct contrast to his campaign promises on foreign policy. And America wants to tell the world they're the champions of democracy? Come on. Democracy means rule of the people. It is not in today's America. At all.

ps: I'll be looking for a new avatar.

Donald Trump is a novice to politics and has no track record.

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are both swamp creatures, both have spent their entire adult lives as professional politicians and puppets of special interests.

I think it's only fair to fully assess Trump after he completes his first term as POTUS.

And certainly calling him an idiot or puppet is the kind of underestimation that most of the media personalities did in the election cycle, and now they have all but destroyed their industry and credibility.

KMack
09-21-2017, 05:54 PM
They want a war with Iran, but I'm not sure they will be able to get it. Not yet, anyway. There is too much opposition to that in Europe and among America's allies.
I thought I posted this,

Iran's Aseman Airlines signs deal to buy at least 30 Boeing jets
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-airlines-boeing/irans-aseman-airlines-signs-deal-to-buy-at-least-30-boeing-jets-idUSKBN1760QH
The new agreement comes on top of the $16.6 billion sale Boeing previously made in Iran following the landmark nuclear deal struck with Tehran under the Obama administration.
https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2017-04-04/boeing-co-says-it-signed-new-3b-deal-with-iranian-airline

Deep State, Wall St., CIA does not want a war with our new friends in Iran.

Loki
09-21-2017, 06:24 PM
Donald Trump is a novice to politics and has no track record.

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are both swamp creatures, both have spent their entire adult lives as professional politicians and puppets of special interests.

I think it's only fair to fully assess Trump after he completes his first term as POTUS.

And certainly calling him an idiot or puppet is the kind of underestimation that most of the media personalities did in the election cycle, and now they have all but destroyed their industry and credibility.

You actually have a good point there. My reaction was perhaps a bit premature. We should judge him "by his works", and not by his speeches, I think. And after he has completed his term. Of course, I am still WAY more happy to have Trump at the helm, than have Hillary Clinton there...

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
09-22-2017, 04:18 AM
Trump is your boy, stop fronting loki.

Oneeye
09-22-2017, 04:28 AM
Something a little more mature & sober might be better. Or am I missing something there?


Comparing President Barak Obama to Mortal Kombat character Baraka..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baraka_(Mortal_Kombat)

Oneeye
09-22-2017, 05:43 AM
I like how Trump called out socialism. In Venezuela, the socialist policies disregarding property rights, setting prices below costs of production, and handling of their oil industry have left them in a hot mess. It boggles my mind how socialism is seen so positively in other nations.


"The problem...is not that socialism has been poorly implemented but that socialism has been faithfully implemented."

-Trump 2017



Trump is doing fantastic. Our economy is improving


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2017/09/20/in-sign-of-u-s-economys-strength-fed-to-start-reducing-4-5-trillion-balance-sheet/


His quick work with democrats to ensure that aid reaches those suffering for the hurricane


http://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548935056/trump-sides-with-democrats-in-deal-on-storm-relief-and-fiscal-deadlines



And his phenomenal response to the hurricanes themselves

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-administration-earns-cautious-praise-for-early-response-to-deadly-hurricanes/2017/09/12/57c3376e-97be-11e7-87fc-c3f7ee4035c9_story.html



Have given him well earned improvements in polling

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/21/politics/trump-approval-40-percent-hurricanes-north-korea/index.html



He's the American's American. #MAGA

CBDFTW
09-22-2017, 05:58 AM
Of course it's disappointing, but what is the alternative here? It's truly terrifying to me that there were no halfway decent options in this election, this elections was between an overgrown frat boy, the slimiest she-beast to ever politic, a middle-aged pothead who failed geography class, and a crazy old hippy lady.

Chev Chelios
09-22-2017, 06:15 AM
Trump just does his job and he's still much better than Obama. If he's an "idiot puppet", then what would Clinton become as the POTUS? Some people were overhyped and naive during his presidential campaign and imagined him as an American hero (or anti-NWO). The reality is President Trump =/= presidential campaign Trump.

Loki
09-22-2017, 07:37 AM
Trump just does his job and he's still much better than Obama. If he's an "idiot puppet", then what would Clinton become as the POTUS? Some people were overhyped and naive during his presidential campaign and imagined him as an American hero (or anti-NWO). The reality is President Trump =/= presidential campaign Trump.

Of course I'm still glad Clinton didn't get in. It just seems that these guys have finally managed to get to Trump, and forced him to obey. But it's early days, and time will tell.

Kamal900
09-22-2017, 07:47 AM
Of course I'm still glad Clinton didn't get in. It just seems that these guys have finally managed to get to Trump, and forced him to obey. But it's early days, and time will tell.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Nothing will change in America until the American people rise up against the government, and they have the guns to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjKCq9fZEc

StormBringer
09-22-2017, 08:55 AM
Even during his presidential campaign, regardless on whether or not you liked his stances, he looked like a caricature out of a really bad satirical comic.
You can't simply vouch for someone, just because they say stuff you like, if they appear to lack feeling of responsibility and common sense.

But alas, this is a kettle calling pot situation, because in this sense at least, we have a miniature Trump of our own in the form of Milorad Dodik.
At least its serves as bit of consolation for us, that we are not the only ones dumb enough to vote such a person into leading position, and our politicans are rather harmless and can't flip the nuclear bird at the world whenever they feel pissed off.

Loki
09-22-2017, 10:42 AM
I wouldn't hold my breath on that. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Nothing will change in America until the American people rise up against the government, and they have the guns to do it.


This is fucking depressing. Looks like Trump has made a deal with the devil. All of a sudden, he talks and acts like a neocon. And all of a sudden... CNN stops slandering him. Coincidence?

Kamal900
09-22-2017, 10:52 AM
This is fucking depressing. Looks like Trump has made a deal with the devil. All of a sudden, he talks and acts like a neocon. And all of a sudden... CNN stops slandering him. Coincidence?

No, it isn't a coincidence. I really urge you to listen to this radio interview between David Duke and Eric Striker on why Jews do sometimes intermarry with gentiles, and it has nothing to do with genuine love whatsoever:
https://davidduke.com/jewish-forward-admits-zionism-is-racist-genocide-but-dont-let-the-goyim-know/

Ülev
09-26-2017, 10:38 PM
Is he last of the Seven TRUMPets?
Seven trumpets are sounded, one at a time, to cue apocalyptic events that were seen in the vision of the Revelation of Christ Jesus,[1] by John of Patmos,[2] as written in the Book of Revelation of the New Testament.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_trumpets

Bell Beaker
09-26-2017, 10:44 PM
I think they are all idiot puppets, you haven't just realized that about your idol........