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Beorn
02-11-2009, 04:16 AM
Was ‘Srebrenica genocide’ a Hoax?

WorldNetDaily article (http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55467) by Aleksandar Pavic

For more than 10 years, the term “Srebrenica” has been used to denote the slaughter of “innocent Muslims” at the hands of Christians — more specifically, the Bosnian Serb army, alleged to have slaughtered, according to the version currently accepted by most major media, “between 7,000 and 8,000 Muslims” when it captured that small town in eastern Bosnia in mid-July 1995. As the story goes, the Bosnian Serbs captured this “U.N.-protected zone” and proceeded to take away and execute thousands of men, women and children in the space of several days, subsequently burying them in mass graves that are still being dug up almost 12 years later.

1. Rigged Numbers

Belgrade-based historian and researcher, Milivoje Ivanisevic, who has been documenting Yugoslavian civil war casualties for more than a decade, has recently challenged the claims in a new booklet, “The Srebrenica Identity Card,” which documents hundreds of bodies buried at the Srebrenica Memorial that were not killed in July 1995, when the alleged genocide took place, including cases of people who died natural deaths a full 13 years before the event took place.
The newest evidence offered by Ivanisevic indicates a number of those buried at the Srebrenica Memorial Complex not only were not killed in July 1995, but actually died much earlier, even in the early 1980s — more than 10 years before the civil war in Yugoslavia even started.

2. Dead Men Voting

According to Ivanisevic, as of March 2007, more than 12 years after the event, a total of 2,442 bodies have been buried at the Memorial. Among those, a total of 914, or over 37 percent, were on the voting lists for the 1996 elections in Bosnia — over a year after the alleged “genocide.” The voting lists themselves were approved and checked by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe [OSCE], which supervised the elections.

3. “Massacred” Muslims Who Died of Natural Causes

A second even more significant find involves the fact that “at least 100 people” buried at the Memorial died of natural causes. Ivanisevic claims that the numbers would be even larger if he’d been allowed access to the death books in Srebrenica and the surrounding towns. Nevertheless, several names with dates of birth, death and place of demise are provided: Fetahija (Nazif) Hasanovic, b. 1955 — d. Dec.15, 1996, Srebrenica; Sukrija (Amil) Smajlovic, b.1946 — d. May 2,1996, Zaluzje; Maho (Suljo) Rizvanovic, b.1953 — d. Jan. 3,1993, Glogova; Mefail (meho) Demirovic, b.1970 — d. May 10, 1992, Krasanovici; Redzic (Ahmet) Asim, b.1949 — d. April 22, 1992, Bratunac.

4. Alleged “Srebrenica Victims” Killed Before Srebrenica

Thirdly, Ivanisevic charges that several hundred soldiers as well as civilians were transferred to the Srebrenica Memorial from other cemeteries and reburied, with Muslim burial rituals. One of these is the body of Hamed (Hamid) Halilovic ), transferred from the nearby cemetery in Kazani, who apparently died a full 13 years before the Srebrenica “genocide.” Other bodies transferred from Kazani to the Srebrenica Memorial include those of Osman (Ibro) Halilovic ), Nurija (Smajo) Memisevic ), Salih (Saban) Alic ), Mujo (Hasim) Hadzic ), Ferid (Ramo) Mustafic ) and Hajrudin (Ismet) Cvrk ).
Fourth, using captured records of the Bosnian Muslim Army, Ivanisevic lists more than a dozen names of soldiers whose families were granted housing and social benefits due to families of soldiers killed in action before Nov. 11, 1993, when the documents were captured by Bosnian Serb army forces.
Fifth, on the basis of similarly captured documents, Ivanisevic provides several dozen names of Bosnian Muslim army fighters killed before March 7, 1994.

5. Jihad Butchers Turned Into Innocent Victims

Ivanisevic goes on to provide names of Bosnian Muslim soldiers buried at the Srebrenica Memorial who were implicated in numerous massacres of Serbian civilians in the vicinity between , in which a total of over 3,000 Serbs were killed. Interestingly, the commander of the Srebrenica Bosnian army forces, Naser Oric, was given a two-year sentence (http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2006/06/butcher-of-serbs-free.html) by the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia, or ICTY, in June 2006 for his participation in these killings, some of which he captured on video and showed to Washington Post reporter John Pomfret (http://www.srebrenica-report.com/Oric.htm), who visited him inside the “U.N. Safe Zone” in 1994. [And to Bill Schiller (http://www.srebrenica-report.com/Oric2.htm) of Canada’s Toronto Star]

Clinton’s State Department — Still In Power — Upholds the Myth

During the 1990s, the Clinton administration used the “Srebrenica genocide” claim to enter the Bosnian civil war on the side of the Bosnian Muslims and enforce the subsequent Dayton Peace Agreement for Bosnia-Herzegovina in November 1995, with mutual recognition between Yugoslavia (now Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia). More generally, Clinton’s State Department bureaucracy used the “Srebrenica genocide” — as it has since been referred to as a result of controversial verdicts pronounced by the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia in The Hague — to justify its support for Muslim-dominated political movements not just in Bosnia but in Macedonia and Serbia’s Kosovo region, which is currently seeking independence. And, since most of Clinton’s State Department appointments, headed by Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns, have continued running the U.S. Balkan strategy, the policy has remained intact to this day.
Thus, even as the current Kosovo Albanian independence drive is provided heavy U.S., British and German support, the Bosnian Serbs, unhappy at the prospect of being locked inside a Muslim-dominated Bosnia, are being denied independence, with the “Srebrenica genocide” being used as the chief argument — i.e., that wartime gains achieved through “genocide” cannot be sanctioned. Many observers, including a recent G2 Bulletin analysis, link Western support of Balkan Muslims at the expense of Christians as part of a broader policy of appeasing “moderate” Sunni-controlled regimes in the Middle East, as part of an anti-Iranian Shiite coalition.

Srebrenica Turned Into a Jihad-Rallying Shrine

Among radical Bosnian Muslim elements, the Srebrenica narrative has been used not only to rally support to the general cause of jihad, to arouse Muslim feelings of having been oppressed and persecuted by non-Muslims, but to build what some have called the “first Muslim shrine in Europe,” a gathering place for Muslims from the world over with anti-Western, anti-European and anti-Christian grievances. The Memorial Complex in Srebrenica now serves as a place of pilgrimage, where Muslims can see firsthand the results of what they believe is an unprecedented atrocity against their fellow believers.

Western Mass Media Perpetuates the Myth

The entire Srebrenica narrative has been provided key support by Western mainstream media, headed by the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Wall Street Journal and the mainstream British, German and French media, who have laced their Balkan reporting throughout the years with references to the “Srebrenica genocide,” calling it, among other things, the “worst atrocity in Europe since World War II,” a “stain on the conscience of the West,” etc.
From the very beginning, numerous dissenting voices both in the West and in ex-Yugoslavia have contested both the Western mass media claims and the ICTY Srebrenica-connected verdicts, but have received almost no publicity whatsoever.

Srebrenica Research Group Demystifies the Hoax

In the summer of 2005, on the 10-year anniversary of the event, the “Srebrenica Research Group,” composed of mostly American and British media and academic figures, as well as former U.N. civil officials and military observers with ex-Yugoslavia experience, put up a website (http://www.srebrenica-report.com/) in which the entire “Srebrenica massacre” account was reconsidered and demystified. Instead of the 7-8,000 figure, U.N. officials and U.S. Congress experts were quoted giving figures of “700-800,” “the low hundreds,” “about 2,000 Muslims and Serbs total,” etc. Henry Wieland, head of the U.N. Human Rights Commission, who spent days interviewing Srebrenica refugees in July 1995, is quoted as saying that he did not find “anyone who’d seen any atrocity committed with their own eyes.”

Forensic Findings and ICTY Verdicts Challenged

The forensic findings were taken to task as well, with claims that the entire process of excavation and identification of bodies was controlled by an organization founded by the late Bosnian Islamist leader, Alija Izetbegovic. And, a Canadian international law professor deconstructed the Srebrenica-connected verdicts at the ICTY, showing, among other things, that Bosnian Serb Gen. Radoslav Krstic, sentenced by the court to a 46-year term, was, in the court’s own verdict, absolved of participation in — or even knowledge of — the alleged massacre, instead being sentenced according to the ICTY’s own construction of “command responsibility.” The prosecution’s star witness, Drazen Erdemovic, a Bosnian Croat who mysteriously appeared in the ranks of the Bosnian Serb army after previously fighting in the Bosnian Muslim army ranks, claimed participation in the execution of 1,200 Srebrenica Muslims, was exempted from cross-examination, deemed by the court itself as “mentally unstable” and, ultimately, given a five-year sentence for his “cooperation.” Yet, the mass media, without exception, have ignored the group’s findings, even those quoting the very same mass media’s own reports from the ground at the time.

Netherlands Institute: Srebrenica Was a Safe Haven for Several Thousand Armed Bosnian Muslim Troops Raiding Surrounding Serbian Villages

The Netherlands Institute for War Documentation issued an extensive report in 2002, “Srebrenica, a ‘Safe’ Area,” detailing, among other things, that Srebrenica, although declared a “U.N. Safe Zone,” was in fact never demilitarized, and that several thousand armed Bosnian Muslim troops were stationed in it between , organizing numerous lethal raids against Serbian villages in the vicinity. This claim was additionally corroborated by the U.N. secretary-general’s report to the U.N. General Assembly of Nov. 15, 1999.
Ivanisevic’s book will soon to be translated into English. It remains to be seen whether the Western corporate mass media will continue ignoring this and other evidence debunking the claim that an anti-Muslim “genocide” took place in Srebrenica in July 1995. Some public figures in the Balkans have called for an international commission on Srebrenica, which would re-examine the evidence and make a new, more balanced and independent assessment of what took place in eastern Bosnia during the last stages of its civil war, in the summer of 1995.


Source (http://www.byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2007/05/srebrenica-hoax.html)

Lenny
02-17-2009, 04:44 PM
Everyone was committing small-scale atrocities in the Balkans.

And I don't mean in the 1990s, but pretty much every period of Balkan history going back at least 1,000 years! (incl. the 1990s) :p


Srebrencia was a Muslim stronghold that got overrun by Serb forces in the Summer of 1995, and lots of Muslims died in the fighting and in the Muslims' retreat to other Islamic strongholds of Bosnia. Whether any captured Muslims were arbitrarily executed is anyone's guess. Probably some were. I don't think the Serbs were stupid enough to execute 8,000+ in plain sight with U.N. observers all over the place. Thousands were missing, but that is the definition of war.

Groenewolf
02-17-2009, 05:07 PM
Srebrencia was a Muslim stronghold .

Strong word. That place was practicaly undefendable. Espaily with the equipment and support Dutchbat had. Ironicaly the only casaulity among them was caused by a Mujahid grenade trown at them. And yes intentionaly at them. The Serbian army could have easly flattend the place, hardly a stronghold.

Lenny
02-17-2009, 05:32 PM
Perhaps the "Serbian army" could have, but the Serbs there were all paramilitaries, Bosnian-Serbs and volunteers from Serbia :p Milosevic never involved his own army directly in the Bosnian civil war as far as I know.

I agree with you though. It was never a fortress, which is why it got overrun with bad casualties to the Muslims, which is how this 'genocide' myth began.

Beorn
02-24-2009, 09:20 PM
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Guapo
07-08-2009, 05:53 AM
Survivor of Srebrenica arrested, accused by the Republic of Srpska courts of war crimes.


NGOs condemn arrest of Srebrenica survivor
7 July 2009 | 16:13 | Source: B92
BELGRADE -- A number of NGOs have deplored the arrest of Midhat Salihović, one of the male survivors of the Srebrenica massacre, accused by the RS courts of war crimes.

According to the NGOs, Salihović, who lives in Sweden, had traveled to Potočari to attend the funeral of his father and brother, both victims of the genocide, and was arrested on Saturday on a warrant issued by the Bijelina District Court, where he is suspected of war crimes against the Srebrenica Serbs.

A joint statement from Women in Black (Belgrade), JUKOM, the Helsinki Committee for Human Rights in Serbia and the Youth Initiative for Human Rights expresses “anger“ over “this cynical and criminal move by the Bijelina court.“

The NGOs focused their anger on the Republic of Srpska (RS) authorities, headed by Prime Minister Milorad Dodik, and the Bijelina courts, who, “instead of going after criminals, are persecuting the survivors of the genocide.“

Neither do the Serbian authorities nor President Boris Tadić escape the NGOs’ wrath, who, they say, “continue to work towards a relativization of the criminal past and display full understanding for Milorad Dodik’s criminal policy.“

The NGOs also criticize the international community for “tolerating Milorad Dodik’s secessionist and, essentially, belligerent policy,“ which “does nothing to bring its powers in Bosnia-Herzegovina to bear on eliminating sources of future wars and future genocides.“

In the statement, the NGOs call on the Serbian authorities “to at least distance themselves from the aggressive and dangerous policy“ of the RS, and urge the international community to work energetically to prevent attempts to equate crimes and victims, and to put a stop to the dangerous policies pursued by Dodik and the remaining RS political forces.

“On behalf of all the citizens of Serbia who have not lost their human dignity, we once again voice our solidarity with the families of the victims of the genocide in Srebrenica, as well as our resolve never to forget the crimes perpetrated in our name,“ the statement stresses.

The Bosnian prosecution announced today that Salihović, whom the RS authorities arrested two days ago on suspicion of crimes committed against Serbs in Srebrenica, had not been detained on a Bosnian warrant, nor had that institution issued a warrant for his arrest.

The Bosnian prosecution added that members of the Bosnian border police had arrested Salihović at the Orašje border crossing on Saturday, on a warrant issued by the Bijelina District Court.

Crvena zvezda
07-13-2009, 07:16 PM
During the 1990s, the Clinton administration used the “Srebrenica genocide” claim to enter the Bosnian civil war on the side of the Bosnian Muslims and enforce the subsequent Dayton Peace Agreement for Bosnia-Herzegovina in November 1995, with mutual recognition between Yugoslavia (now Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia).

This part is absurd.

Mutual recognition technically occured in April of 1992. Specifically Apruil 27, 1992 when Serbia and Montenegro past the FRY (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) constiution saying that Yugoslavia consists only of Serbia and Montenegro.

Recognizing the independent of the other republis of Yugoslavia.