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Drenica
09-22-2017, 06:45 AM
could there be some minor admixture that is not picked up that is very old or something?

Drenica
09-22-2017, 06:48 AM
These are my results

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Drenica
09-22-2017, 06:50 AM
No East European and no West European :shrug:

kingjohn
09-22-2017, 06:56 AM
you have east european genes
it is hiding in your Balkan of my heritage .
i get 9% east Europe+ Baltic
and my mother nada %0
but she got 20% Balkan {so her east european genes are hiding in the Balkan there is overlap in genetic signatures}
each test is different algorithm , different references so many times different results .
i score 0% north east euro in gen-cove so who is more correct
the answer they all are it depends on the factors i mention .

Drenica
09-22-2017, 12:25 PM
you have east european genes
it is hiding in your Balkan of my heritage .
i get 9% east Europe+ Baltic
and my mother nada %0
but she got 20% Balkan {so her east european genes are hiding in the Balkan there is overlap in genetic signatures}
each test is different algorithm , different references so many times different results .
i score 0% north east euro in gen-cove so who is more correct
the answer they all are it depends on the factors i mention .

The Balkans on my heritage covers only the Balkans and not any East European countries but only South East. and Albanians are part of the reference population there while the Greek doesnt cover Albanians even though it peaks in Albs. I would screenshot this all for you but Myheritage isnt working atm.


the fact that some North Slavs also get this means its bullshit, my friend, and not some magical hidden East Europe ancestry.

Here is a Polak user, Peterski, that gets only 3% Balkan

http://i.imgur.com/laMggf1.png


Saying Balkan on MyHeritage is Slavic ancestry is totally bullshit when only South Slavs and Albanians are part of it, of course Albanians get it when it supposedly peaks in Albanians and South Slavs according to their map but somehow even North Slavs sometimes and Italians get it too.. the Balkan according to their map is supposed to peak in Albanian lands even though it doesnt according to results , it depends on individual. It seems rather interchangeable with Greek in the case of Albanians and not some magical hidden Slavic ancestry... maybe in North Slavs it is interchangeable with East Europe / Baltic, you gotta look at other autosomal results you get but in my case it is 100% interchangeable with Greek...

If you add Balkan and Greek together into one Balkan component, the result will be same as I got on other tests 100% Balkan.


But I dont get actual East Europe / North Slavic on these other tests WHICH IS ACTUAL SLAVIC ANCESTRY and not some Balkan on my heritage or East Europe on ancestrydna and claim it supposedly as some hidden component when we are supposed to get it ... these two dna tests are not to be taken serious.


The guy above, he gets also East Europe and North West Europe because West Slavs atleast dont just simply score East Europe.. on all his tests he gets East Europe and North West, supposedly the Slavs that came to Albania came from west Poland, east germany, the Sorbs who are linked to the Serbs, but somehow Albanians only must of picked up their East European part and now its hiding under Balkan on MyHeritage... lol


MyHeritage is similar to ancestrydna where Albanians are part of the East Europe cluster even though average only gets 20% and the rest italy/greece, the latter actually peaks in Albanians and not Italians or Greeks... this just scewes Albanian results breaking it up like this and does not represent actual ancestry at all. There shouldnt be a Greek component when it doesnt even peak in Greeks but only Balkan where it includes Albanians, Greeks, Bulgarians like on 23andme , dna land etc. That should easily detect Slavic/East Europe ancestry instead of blaming it on some hidden component and scewing results with these meaningless components.

There are Albanians here who get less Balkan than me on MyHeritage but they get North Europe there and on myorigins etc they get East Europe... not to mention one Albanian here gets like 70% Balkan on myheritage, this Dna test should not even be taken serious.

Most of that East Europe on ancestrydna is not even Slavic even though we share it with Slavs, same as majority of the Balkan on myheritage, if we had that much East Europe input we would easily get it on Dna Land , 23andme etc but I guess it must be magically hidden. Why do South Slavs get East Europe on other tests lol? Why is it magically hidden in Albanians? Hmmmmmmmm... maybe because theres nothing hidden and what i'm saying is 100% right




if I had that much East European genes it would show on dna land, geneplaza or gencove as North Slavic or East Europe or on myorigins as East Europe without any problem. You cant blame some algorithm. It is quite mind boggling how people dont understand this. I barely get any North Slavic relatives and I actually got more west/North European relatives as I explained including some Swede who I share with some I1 Balkanites supposedly of Goth origin. According to your conclusion I must also have some hidden North West ancestry. But my only explanation is that I1 Albanians joined Albanians very early on if you look at when their clade originated and that such genes got dilluted over 1400 years, same maybe for some minor East Europe but for sure 43% East Europe supposedly wouldnt magically hide in some test that only goes 500 years back as Balkan, and especially not Myheritage who are totally new to autosomal .. lets get real here dude.. majority of these dna tests dont give me any East Europe .. its 4 vs 1 ... and the difference is those 4 are more correct and have one thing in common, they got a Balkan/East Med component which includes Albanians and Greeks together instead of making an own Greek cluster and scewing both Albanian and Greek results and clame it as some Slavic ancestry.. and then they got an own East Europe / North Slavic component that only includes East Europeans.. you cant blame it on hidden component.

I'm not surprised that I dont get much East Europe at all, it is actually the way it should be.. maybe I should get few % or something like 1-5 % on a test like myorigins but same for North West Europe but most likely such genes have been dilluted over 1000 + years and is not recent ancestry .. you realise MyHeritage only goes 500 years back and their components like Balkan make absolutely no sense , especially when it only covers the Balkans excluding Greece. average Albanian there gets like 20% - 30% Balkan and rest Greek. It is just messing up peoples results.


But in case for Albanians, the Balkan on myheritage is interchangeable with Greek if you look at my other results...

Balkan on myheritage is basically some unstable component that can be same as Greek or same as East Europe / Baltic rather than some hidden Slavic ancestry just because some North Slavs get it when they are supposedly not even covered.. to simply understand this you just gotta look at other results...

For example if you take a north slav that gets 70% East Europe on other tests but 70% Balkan on myheritage then you simply know its interchangeable with East Europe/Baltic in their case but in case of Albanians like me , when you look at my other results, its interchangeable with Greek actually and not some hidden Slavic component of 43% but whatever you people say , dude.

Myheritage is not to be taken serious anyway.

kingjohn
09-22-2017, 04:36 PM
my grandmother was Bulgarian
my mother 20% Balkan is real all the way
so tell me how do i score 9% east Europe+ Baltic in my heritage
11% eastern Europe in my origins 2.0 ...
and all of a sudden in gencove and DNA land same algorithm i score 0% north Slavic /north east Europe ?
so what is the truth
i understand that in your case the Balkan is interchangeable to some extent with the Greek
but not in my mother case ........
as my father score 0% east Europe + Baltic in my heritage
so from who i got those eastern european genes if not from my mother ?

p.s
my mother also score 8% east europe in my origins 2.0