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Æmeric
11-10-2008, 04:41 PM
Carla Bruni has made her intentions clear that she wants France to become as multicultural as the US or least the most Multiracial parts of it. She refers her Jewish husband as the "French Obama" but she would really like to see a Mulatto Muslim in charge of France. And she is so happy to be French now because of that damned racist in charge of Italy, Silvio Berlusconi. The sad thing is many persons look to people like Bruni (a former model & airhead) to shape what they think should be their correct opinions about social & political issues.



French say 'Yes, we can!' too, to ending racism

PARIS (AP) — Inspired by Barack Obama, the French first lady and other leading figures say it's high time for France to stamp out racism and shake up a white political and social elite that smacks of colonial times.

A manifesto published Sunday — subtitled "Oui, nous pouvons!", the French translation of Obama's campaign slogan "Yes, we can!" — urges affirmative action-like policies and other steps to turn French ideals of equality into reality for millions of blacks, Arabs and other alienated minorities.

"Our prejudices are insidious," Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, a singer and wife of President Nicolas Sarkozy, said in an interview with the Journal du Dimanche newspaper, which published the manifesto. She said she hoped the "Obama effect" would reshape French society.

Nations across Europe rejoiced over Obama's victory, seeing it as a triumph for American democracy and a world weary of President George W. Bush. But Obama's election also illustrated an uncomfortable truth: how far European countries with big minority populations have to go getting nonwhites into positions of power.

Grass-roots groups in France and Britain are trying to turn Obama's election into electoral gains for minorities at home. Sunday's manifesto suggests France's elites are taking notice, too.

"The election of Barack Obama highlights via a cruel contrast the shortcomings of the French Republic, and the distance that separates us from a country whose citizens knew how to go beyond the racial question and elect a man who happens to be black as president," the appeal said.

"What a lesson!" it went on. "We French ... should listen to it well."

The manifesto was written by Yazid Sabeg, a French self-made millionaire whose parents were Algerian immigrants, and signed by politicians from the left and right and other public figures.

Obama is extremely popular in France, yet blacks and other minorities are nearly invisible in national or local politics here. The lower house of parliament has 555 members from the French mainland; just one is black.

"We shouldn't be surprised that Obama's popularity is so high here: It testifies to the aspirations of all the children of France who are experiencing by proxy a recognition that France does not give them," the manifesto reads. "It also betrays the bad faith of those who welcome the victory of modernity outside our borders, in order to tolerate the status quo here."

The manifesto calls for affirmative action policies like those the United States used years ago to encourage greater minority representation in the workplace and in universities.

Sarkozy has suggested affirmative action for France, but later backed away from the idea since it goes against France's ideals of egalitarianism, which dictate that the country not classify its citizens according to race. This idea that everyone is just "French" means there are no census or other national figures calculating how big the country's minority groups are.

The manifesto urges term limits to make way for more minority candidates, and presses the government to improve schools in working-class neighborhoods.

That appears to be a reference to housing projects heavily populated by nonwhite immigrants and their families, areas that erupted in riots in 2005 by disenfranchised youth, many of them Arab and black children of immigrants.

Critics say the tough-talking Sarkozy fanned discrimination ahead of the riots. Manifesto author Sabeg slammed efforts under Sarkozy to help minority neighborhoods as "an empty shell."

Bruni-Sarkozy said she couldn't sign the appeal because of her status as first lady but that she fully supported it. She is quoted in the Journal du Dimanche as calling Obama's election "an immense joy."

The Italian-born first lady exhibited optimism in her adopted land, saying Sarkozy's ethnically mixed background is a sign that France is open to change.

"My husband is not Obama. But the French voted for the son of a Hungarian immigrant, whose father has an accent, whose mother is of Jewish origin. (Sarkozy) has always considered himself as a bit of a Frenchman from elsewhere," Bruni-Sarkozy is quoted as saying.

She also took a dig at the prime minister of her native Italy, Silvio Berlusconi, for saying last week that Obama is "tanned." The often impolitic and suntanned Berlusconi defended it as a compliment, but Bruni-Sarkozy saw the situation differently.

"I'm very glad to have become French," she said.

Source (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iwM8DGkDHVBe3H2GhSEMno1ow7mAD94BJE781)

Vulpix
11-11-2008, 07:11 AM
I happened to see this post right after I had eaten a substantial dinner. I had to quit reading :puke::speechless-smiley-0



But Obama's election also illustrated an uncomfortable truth: how far European countries with big minority populations have to go getting nonwhites into positions of power.Don't you love the press' bias :rolleyes2::mad:? What they are rooting for is nothing short of reverse colonialism :mad:.

Loki
11-11-2008, 08:13 AM
Disgusting is too weak a word to describe this. Why do European countries have to have non-white leaders? Are they inherently better leaders than whites? Look at Africa, I think you'll see the opposite is true. :coffee:

The Dragonslayer
11-11-2008, 08:21 PM
Probably any hope for France seems to have gone out the door. This is pure sickening to me. I can't believe the suicidal people in Europe. They are willing to give up everything their ancestors fought and died for.

Teuton
11-11-2008, 08:52 PM
This doesn't make me sick, this doesn't make me want to vomit.
It boils unyielding anger inside me.

I wish I could describe what I think and feel, but it's more of a State of Mind than a few sentence.:mad:

The Dragonslayer
11-12-2008, 12:17 AM
This doesn't make me sick, this doesn't make me want to vomit.
It boils unyielding anger inside me.

I wish I could describe what I think and feel, but it's more of a State of Mind than a few sentence.:mad:

I think sick was just one word I could use to describe what I'm feeling. I am definitely upset and angry. It's getting so irritating reading all these Europeans and Americans for that matter praising all this massive immigration and multiculturalism. They are happy with the thing that is leading to the suicide of their very people. They don't care though. They are living in some sort of fantasy world.

Vulpix
11-12-2008, 07:38 AM
Reading about Carla Bruni Sarkozy's (Italian - Jewish) and Nicholas Sarkozy's backgrounds can help you understand their lack of nationalism...


Nicolas Sarkozy is the son of a Hungarian immigrant father, and a mother of French Catholic and Greek Jewish descent.

I think sick was just one word I could use to describe what I'm feeling. I am definitely upset and angry. It's getting so irritating reading all these Europeans and Americans for that matter praising all this massive immigration and multiculturalism. They are happy with the thing that is leading to the suicide of their very people. They don't care though. They are living in some sort of fantasy world.

The Dragonslayer
11-12-2008, 04:16 PM
Reading about Carla Bruni Sarkozy's (Italian - Jewish) and Nicholas Sarkozy's backgrounds can help you understand their lack of nationalism...

I agree. I knew some about Sarko himself, but not Carla's. It doesn't surprise me at all now. It's just a shame that Europe and the United States continue to get leaders in power who do not have a nationalistic spirit. It's like John McCain with his "Country First" slogan. I was thinking that if his country came first then he wouldn't support many of the things he does. Today we have mostly globalists in power. They have in mind a new world order. They don't truly care about the survival of their nations or its people. They couldn't care less who inherits the land that their ancestors fought and died for.

Saksenland
11-13-2008, 09:00 AM
We aren't suprise here, do we? :rolleyes:

The Dragonslayer
11-13-2008, 04:29 PM
I think here in the United States we've been given the illusion that Sarko was going to crack down on the influx of immigrants into France. That he was going to be tough on the situation there.

Æmeric
11-13-2008, 06:27 PM
I guess Sarkozy is supposedly "Conservative" by European standards but in America he would be left-of-center. The Clintons are probably more conservative then Sarkozy. Wasn't the former Conservative president, Jacque Chirac, a Trotskyite at one point in his political life?

The Dragonslayer
11-13-2008, 06:49 PM
It seems that Conservative can mean different things depending where you are in the world.

Libertas
11-14-2008, 01:55 PM
I agree. I knew some about Sarko himself, but not Carla's. It doesn't surprise me at all now. It's just a shame that Europe and the United States continue to get leaders in power who do not have a nationalistic spirit. It's like John McCain with his "Country First" slogan. I was thinking that if his country came first then he wouldn't support many of the things he does. Today we have mostly globalists in power. They have in mind a new world order. They don't truly care about the survival of their nations or its people. They couldn't care less who inherits the land that their ancestors fought and died for.

As long as they run the show, these elitists care nothing for their peoples and popular concerns about cultural oblivion.

The Dragonslayer
11-14-2008, 03:16 PM
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As long as they run the show, these elitists care nothing for their peoples and popular concerns about cultural oblivion.

It's all about money, power, etc. with them. They could care less about the future of their people and land. They can't honestly even care about their heirs if they are willing to leave a worse off country than they found.

WFHermans
11-27-2008, 09:14 PM
Sarkozy is supposedly "Conservative" by European standardsSarkozy is Cohenservative. He supports jewish racism against Aryans.

asulf
08-26-2009, 12:52 PM
French citizen, I have no respect for a bitch who break naked and n is not representative of the French people any more than this president !
when to advocate racial mixture I laughs softly in our example wants to Foreign Minister a socialist past to the enemy 'French doctor' big give lessons to anyone who would listen to the never more than 2 years Council of Ministers issued a glance or a word to the minister of integration of Arab stock
result of left and right they are sick people who govern us

asulf
08-26-2009, 01:03 PM
no Aemeric
our former president started in memory there seems as chief of staff for ministredans the early 60
it is 'gauliste' (de Gaule spirit )mind and tell him that he was aurra Trotskyists would smile I think

Brännvin
08-26-2009, 01:04 PM
I guess Sarkozy is supposedly "Conservative" by European standards but in America he would be left-of-center. The Clintons are probably more conservative then Sarkozy. Wasn't the former Conservative president, Jacque Chirac, a Trotskyite at one point in his political life?

Doubt it, since that were the US who choose a mulatto as a president, not a country in Europe, so the Americans are more open-minded in some delicate aspects, on now days economic aspects are irrelevant ;)

Liffrea
08-26-2009, 01:47 PM
It probably needs pointing out that most whites didn’t vote for Obama, whilst most blacks did! Wonder where the “colour blind” elections stand now?

To gain an insight into, the frankly demented, beliefs of the European Left, I would recommend this book:

The Strange Death of Marxism; The European Left in the New Millennium by paul Edward Gottfried.

It makes for disturbing reading, here’s a taster:

“Europe will find it’s true identity by opening it’s gates to Third World populations, who will help it cast out it’s fundamental principles and push it toward organisational-economic anarchy.”

The ravings of a loon? Quite probably, yet this particular loon is Edgar Morin an advisor to former French President Mitterrand and an ex-Communist.

Archbishop Martini of Milan in 1990 said this:

“The migratory process from the poorer south to the richer north is a great ethical and civil occasion for renewal and for inverting the course of decadence in Western European consumerism. The West should transform the reception of these immigrants into a racial, cultural and religious integration that favours in Europe the emergence of a multiracial and multicultural society.”

As Gottfried concludes:

“The Post-Marxist Left goes beyond the totalitarian movements of the past, in emphatically rejecting the Western cultural and historical heritage. It has exerted journalistic, judicial and bureaucratic force to destroy any self-affirming Western consciousness and European national identity.”

“Those who have controlled society politically and have worked in harmony with educators and mediacrats have altered social morality. Even more significantly, they have imposed themselves everywhere, invariably in the name of “liberating” oppressed individuals from their families and by now shattered communities. They have transformed consciousness and, given the influx of non-Western populations and religions and the declining birthrate of the more indigenous Europeans, there is no compelling reason to think this situation will change.”

That last paragraph is the most pertinent of all, when we consider the many ills of modern Western society it seems reasonable to conclude that very few are accidental.

Brännvin
08-26-2009, 02:14 PM
But Obama won thanks to white voters, it is a difficult fact to be denied, if some white voters had voted at the last minute to McCain, today the U.S. would have another president.

White Vote for Obama in the States (http://www.pollster.com/blogs/white_vote_for_obama_in_the_st.php)

Cato
08-26-2009, 07:45 PM
When I first saw the title of this thread I thought it was neCrophiliac instead of neGrophiliac.

Murphy
08-26-2009, 10:30 PM
I have often commented on how I believe the Supreme Pontiff Benedict XVI should call a crusade against the Mohammedans in the Middle East. Now I see I was mistaken. France is the true nation in need of a crusade.

Regards,
Eóin.

Æmeric
08-27-2009, 12:14 AM
When I first saw the title of this thread I thought it was neCrophiliac instead of neGrophiliac.

I think necrophilia would be preferable.

Luern
08-27-2009, 06:08 PM
Wasn't the former Conservative president, Jacque Chirac, a Trotskyite at one point in his political life?

Jacques Chirac is said to have sold "L'Huma" (L'Humanité, communist newspaper) in the 50's.

Puddle of Mudd
08-30-2009, 04:41 PM
Whoa! If this isn't a massive wake up call I don't know what is.

The French people really need to get someone sane back behind the reigns and quick!

Germanicus
08-30-2009, 05:51 PM
I happened to see this post right after I had eaten a substantial dinner. I had to quit reading :puke::speechless-smiley-0


Good for you..... but i only read the first couple of sentences before i felt compelled to leave the Thread.................:eek:

Liffrea
08-30-2009, 07:28 PM
Originally Posted by Declara
Whoa! If this isn't a massive wake up call I don't know what is.

It should tell you something about the state of European man that these characters felt able, compelled even, to state their case out in the open in such a way.

One wonders what response they would have got anywhere outside of Western Europe or North America?

Groenewolf
09-01-2009, 04:53 PM
I have often commented on how I believe the Supreme Pontiff Benedict XVI should call a crusade against the Mohammedans in the Middle East. Now I see I was mistaken. France is the true nation in need of a crusade.

Regards,
Eóin.

And do not count on the Front National for that. I have read (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/6890/bigfoot.jpg) they have a tradition of having muslim candidates. Maybe some of the Monarchist-minded nationalists they seem to have harder ideas on religion.


I guess Sarkozy is supposedly "Conservative" by European standards but in America he would be left-of-center.

And conservativism in America usualy means economic liberalism combined with social conservativism in the European context.

Depends on what European standards you mean of. But lets keep it to orginal French standards, when the term was more or less first coined there afther the French Revolution. It would mean he would want to restore the monarchy and would let religion (Catholic Church) play a large roll in public life. And of course combined with a large skepitism towards the promises of the Radical Enlightment

Poltergeist
09-01-2009, 09:14 PM
I have often commented on how I believe the Supreme Pontiff Benedict XVI should call a crusade against the Mohammedans in the Middle East.

Why and with what goal? Fanaticism and hatred in the name of religion? no, thanks.


Now I see I was mistaken. France is the true nation in need of a crusade.

Where are knights for this crusade (and for the former one mentioned by you)? Hanging in some Irish pubs and waiting to sober up, so they can join the crusade?

Murphy
09-02-2009, 08:10 AM
Why and with what goal? Fanaticism and hatred in the name of religion? no, thanks.

Where are knights for this crusade (and for the former one mentioned by you)? Hanging in some Irish pubs and waiting to sober up, so they can join the crusade?

I was employing hyperbole. Atleast, I think I employed it right... I may not have, either way it was an obvious exaggeration on my part to highlight my disgust with the French First Lady. Also, what is up with these little snide comments of yours? You've tried to bait me with comments on Ireland once before all ready. How immature are you? Seriously, you need to grow up.

Regards,
Eóin.

Poltergeist
09-02-2009, 08:13 AM
I was employing hyperbole. Atleast, I think I employed it right... I may not have, either way it was an obvious exaggeration on my part to highlight my disgust with the French First Lady. Also, what is up with these little snide comments of yours? You've tried to bait me with comments on Ireland once before all ready. How immature are you? Seriously, you need to grow up.

Regards,
Eóin.

You didn't answer about crusade against Muslims in the Middle East. Why and what would that be good for? And how many mighty Irish Christian warriors are preparing themselves for that?

Murphy
09-02-2009, 08:18 AM
You didn't answer about crusade against Muslims in the Middle East. Why and what would that be good for? And how many mighty Irish Christian warriors are preparing themselves for that?

I see that my answer compleely flew right over your head :rolleyes:. Seriously, it's really not funny.

Regards,
Eóin.

Poltergeist
09-02-2009, 08:20 AM
I see that my answer compleely flew right over your head :rolleyes:. Seriously, it's really not funny.

Regards,
Eóin.

Hyperbole or whatever. not meaningful still, but OK.