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Albobalboa
09-23-2017, 01:01 PM
I've noticed a trend, it seems to be foreigners caring a lot more about the religions of Albanians than Albanians themselves.

For example amongst all other peoples they will raise their religion as a sign of identity, whether Christian or Muslim. Albanians appear to be the only ones not doing so, and instead referring to their ethnicity only with a view on religion being a private matter.

Threads on mosques in Albania, Islam in Albania etc, always created by foreigners who for some reason feel frustrated over the current national view of Albanians regarding organized religion.

Are foreigners upset we don't do as they do? Envious of co-religious identity?

Although this is just a forum, it can say a lot about a people's mentality. It seems to be envy behind this because every thread on Albanian religion is implying that Albanians have to be divided by religion, as if they don't feel safe unless Albanians are divided as they are.

Thoughts on this theory?

Petros Houhoulis
10-09-2017, 09:11 PM
http://www.albinfo.ch/ndizet-serish-debati-mbi-skenderbeun-ishte-apo-sishte-hero-shqiptareve/


Shqipėria

Ndizet sėrish debati mbi Skėnderbeun, ishte apo s’ishte hero i shqiptarėve

Historianėt janė ndarė, teksa disa thonė se ka qenė hero i tė gjithė shqiptarėve, derisa disa tė tjerė thonė se ka luftuar kundėr myslimanėve
E Premte, 15 Shtator 2017 - 12:30 albinfo.ch
http://www.albinfo.ch/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/skenderbeu-1-523x396.jpg
Nė Shqipėri sėrish ka filluar debati pėr figurėn e Gjergj Kastriotit Skėnderbeut.

Historianėt janė ndarė, teksa disa thonė se ka qenė hero i tė gjithė shqiptarėve, derisa disa tė tjerė thonė se ka luftuar kundėr myslimanėve, pėrcjell albinfo.ch.
Ky debat ėshtė zhvilluar nė televizionin “News24” mbi islamin dhe Skėnderbeun.
Historiani Olsi Jazexhi ėshtė shprehur se Skėnderbeu ka qenė simbol i krishterimit. “Skėnderbeu ka bėrė masakra ndaj myslimanėve. Skėnderbeu ka qenė njė figurė qė ėshtė pranuar me vėshtirėsi nė mesin e shqiptarėve, pasi Skėnderbeu ėshtė parė si simbol i krishterimit. Skėnderbeu nė atė kohė ka bėrė masakra ndaj myslimaneve qė i ngjajnė masakrave tė Mlladiq nė Bosnjė”, u shpreh historiani Jazexhi, deklaratė qė ka shokuar opinionin nė Shqipėri.
Historiani dhe akademiku Pėllumb Xhufi deklaroi se Skėnderbeu nuk ka qenė pėrfaqėsues i krishterimit dhe kurrsesi xhelat i myslimanėve. “Skėnderbeu nuk ka qenė kalorės i krishterimit. Skėnderbeu nuk ishte njė xhelat i myslimanėve, kur ai erdhi ndezi kryengritjen, pasi nė atė kohė nuk kishte mysliman nė Shqipėri, popullsia masive ishte e krishterė. Regjistrat e vitit 1431 nuk japin fare mysliman. Nė vitin 1533 fillon tė zbulohen regjistra mysliman. Fetarisht Skėnderbeun ėshtė e vėshtirė ta vendosėsh diku, pasi ai edhe nė majė tė kokės, mbante simbol pagan , nuk ishte kalorės i krishterimit”, u shpreh Xhufi.

Ndėrkohė, Imami Armand Aliu ka thėnė se Skėnderbeu nuk mund tė jetė hero i tyre, sepse ai ishte njė armik i islamit. “Skėnderbeu ėshtė armik i myslimanėve. Myslimanėt nuk mund tė kenė hero tė tyre njė armik tė myslimanit siē ka qenė Skėnderbeu”, u shpreh ai.




http://www.balkanweb.com/site/shperthen-imami-mbulimi-i-skenderbeut-skenar-per-te-arrestuar-besimtare-si-terroriste/

http://www.balkanweb.com/site/skenderbeu-si-simptome-percarjesh-fetare/

http://www.gazetatema.net/2017/09/15/pellumb-xhufi-skenderbeu-nuk-ka-qene-kalores-i-krishterimit-imam-shqiptar-ai-eshte-armik-i-myslimaneve/

Albobalboa
10-09-2017, 10:36 PM
http://www.albinfo.ch/ndizet-serish-debati-mbi-skenderbeun-ishte-apo-sishte-hero-shqiptareve/



http://www.balkanweb.com/site/shperthen-imami-mbulimi-i-skenderbeut-skenar-per-te-arrestuar-besimtare-si-terroriste/

http://www.balkanweb.com/site/skenderbeu-si-simptome-percarjesh-fetare/

http://www.gazetatema.net/2017/09/15/pellumb-xhufi-skenderbeu-nuk-ka-qene-kalores-i-krishterimit-imam-shqiptar-ai-eshte-armik-i-myslimaneve/

Thanks for reviving this thread which never got a chance to shine.

Debate is always good, as a people our identity has zero to do with religion. Those discussions are nothing and just overblown drama from local abrahamic preachers.

You're a good example of what the OP is about.

Petros Houhoulis
10-09-2017, 11:33 PM
Thanks for reviving this thread which never got a chance to shine.

Debate is always good, as a people our identity has zero to do with religion. Those discussions are nothing and just overblown drama from local abrahamic preachers.

You're a good example of what the OP is about.

I did not express an opinion on the issue, I merely inserted some news sources which are NOT disputed - though I would agree with you that the likes of Armand Aliu are a small minority among Albanians.

Above all I never claimed that "The Orthodox Albanians are Greek because they are Orthodox". Others play that kind of games...

Cristiano viejo
10-09-2017, 11:39 PM
Let see: there are mosques in Albania. They exist for some reason :rolleyes: the reason is that people go to pray there... and according you foreigners care more than own Albanians??? :lol:

Yes, makes sense :rolleyes: