Post Atlantic scores from Eurogenes k15

[de Burgh II]

Interested in the distribution of this component in other people.

Atlantic 31.31

[RN97]

Atlantic 22.97

[MsSPF]

Atlantic 17.85

[alnortedelsur]

Mine...

From my 23AndMe raw data:

North_Sea 14.42
Atlantic 26.47
Baltic 4.32
Eastern_Euro 4.28
West_Med 16.24
West_Asian 4.26
East_Med 13.39
Red_Sea 3.12
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.41
Amerindian 6.25
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.45
Sub-Saharan 5.39

From my AncestryDNA raw data:

North_Sea 14.83
Atlantic 25.77
Baltic 4.58
Eastern_Euro 3.44
West_Med 16.78
West_Asian 4.21
East_Med 13.78
Red_Sea 3.09
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.41
Amerindian 6.40
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.61
Sub-Saharan 5.09

[Gangrel]

Atlantic 7.20

[de Burgh II]

Mine...

From my 23AndMe raw data:

North_Sea 14.42
Atlantic 26.47
Baltic 4.32
Eastern_Euro 4.28
West_Med 16.24
West_Asian 4.26
East_Med 13.39
Red_Sea 3.12
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.41
Amerindian 6.25
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.45
Sub-Saharan 5.39

From my AncestryDNA raw data:

North_Sea 14.83
Atlantic 25.77
Baltic 4.58
Eastern_Euro 3.44
West_Med 16.78
West_Asian 4.21
East_Med 13.78
Red_Sea 3.09
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.41
Amerindian 6.40
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.61
Sub-Saharan 5.09

Kind of makes you wonder if its a Celtic-Germanic connection;which peaks around Atlantic-North Sea populations such as British Isles, Scandinavians, Iberians, etc. :p

[alnortedelsur]

Kind of makes you wonder if its a Celtic-Germanic connection;which peaks around Atlantic-North Sea populations such as British Isles, Scandinavians, Iberians, etc. :p

No wonder that I score 12% British and 5% Irish on Ancestry DNA, which I know it doesn't mean that I have any recent British or Irish ancestry, but chances are that it indicates some Celtic-like? components that peak in Britain and Ireland and are considerably present in Iberians.

Long life to the Atlantic facade xD

[RN97]

Kind of makes you wonder if its a Celtic-Germanic connection;which peaks around Atlantic-North Sea populations such as British Isles, Scandinavians, Iberians, etc. :p

Atlantic is just a sorta basque/ NW Euro like or something like that. It's a weird component that makes little sense since you already have west med.

[Petalpusher]

26.53

[frankhammer]

Atlantic 23.90

Significantly more North sea.

[Damião de Góis]

29.13

Strange component, it peaks at 35 in Basques and nearby populations have it in the low 30s (Aragon or Southwest French). Then the gradient goes away from the basques normally (i have higher than average) but it peaks again in the british isles at ~30.

[de Burgh II]

Atlantic 23.90

Significantly more North sea.

You is a true Anglo Saxon Monseigneur Frankhammer! :3

https://deadliestblogpage.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/1-anglo-saxon-warriors1.jpg

[de Burgh II]

29.13

Strange component, it peaks at 35 in Basques and nearby populations have it in the low 30s (Aragon or Southwest French). Then the gradient goes away from the basques normally (i have higher than average) but it peaks again in the british isles at ~30.

If you think about it; its quite interesting. The separation of West_Med/Mediterranean/Neolithic from Atlantic/"Celtic"/Bronze Age offers an interesting opportunity to test Ancient populations. Seeing the West med component peaks in Sardinians who are a good modern day proxy for Europeans before the coming of the Bronze Age when it was mostly WHG/Hunter-gatherer and Neolithic mixes. Perhaps the Atlantic component could be a good proxy for West Euros during the coming of the Bronze Age.

[Kelmendasi]

Ftdna:
Atlantic 14.31


23andme:
Atlantic 10.61

[Damião de Góis]

If you think about it; its quite interesting. The separation of West_Med/Mediterranean/Neolithic from Atlantic/"Celtic"/Bronze Age offers an interesting opportunity to test Ancient populations. Seeing the West med component peaks in Sardinians who are a good modern day proxy for Europeans before the coming of the Bronze Age when it was mostly WHG/Hunter-gatherer and Neolithic mixes. Perhaps the Atlantic component could be a good proxy for West Euros during the coming of the Bronze Age

In my opinion the peak value is too low to make any kind of conclusion. But yes, you could be right.

[firemonkey]

Mine: Atlantic 31.28
My father: Atlantic 29.57

[oszkar07]

Interested in the distribution of this component in other people.

Atlantic 31.31

Atlantic 27.00

[Sp_loa]

Atlantic 14.38

I still have much more west Mediterranean(spain) and more than twice east Mediterranean(probably Greece) but I wonder what does Atlantic mean...
Is it Britain, Portugal? France? they all have access to the Atlantic ocean.

[oszkar07]

Atlantic 23.90

Significantly more North sea.

Interesting, i thought it would usually be higher in people with predominant British background.

[Turul Karom]

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 25.67
2 North_Sea 24.73
3 Baltic 14.97
4 Eastern_Euro 9.31
5 West_Med 8.35
6 West_Asian 7.65
7 East_Med 6.28
8 Red_Sea 0.92
9 Northeast_African 0.73
10 Siberian 0.58
11 Amerindian 0.44
12 Southeast_Asian 0.38

[frankhammer]

Interesting, i thought it would usually be higher in people with predominant British background.

I've a feeling some foreign devils lurk in my ancestry :laugh:

[Grace O'Malley]

Mine

Population
North_Sea 37.04
Atlantic 29.88
Baltic 11.89
Eastern_Euro 8.75
West_Med 4.95
West_Asian 5.16
East_Med -
Red_Sea 1.10
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.07
Amerindian 1.15
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -

Brother's result

Population
North_Sea 38.02
Atlantic 28.50
Baltic 9.12
Eastern_Euro 9.98
West_Med 7.56
West_Asian 5.23
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.94
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.66
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

This is from Eupedia

As you can see the so-called Atlantic admixture peaks in the Basque and neighbouring populations, followed by the Irish, Welsh and Scots. But apart from that it isn't really centred on the Atlantic. Galicians have less of it than Danes and North Germans. The high frequency in Sardinia, but much lower frequency in South Italy and the Balkans indicate a Mesolithic Western European ancestry.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2chunlu.jpg

[Tchek]

31.37

[Ilma]

Population

North_Sea 26.94
Atlantic 26.18
Baltic 8.90
Eastern_Euro 8.27
West_Med 20.26
West_Asian -
East_Med 3.93
Red_Sea 3.90
South_Asian 1.04
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.08
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.51
Sub-Saharan -

:noidea: I'd expected more considering what Grace shared above.

[alnortedelsur]

Population

North_Sea 26.94
Atlantic 26.18
Baltic 8.90
Eastern_Euro 8.27
West_Med 20.26
West_Asian -
East_Med 3.93
Red_Sea 3.90
South_Asian 1.04
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.08
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.51
Sub-Saharan -

:noidea: I'd expected more considering what Grace shared above.

Hi there sister :wave:

It looks like I am almost as much Atlantic as you :)

[Erronkari]

Population
North_Sea 18.92
Atlantic 37.03
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro 2.04
West_Med 25.90
West_Asian 2.40
East_Med 6.70
Red_Sea 0.53
South_Asian 0.53
Southeast_Asian 0.99
Siberian -
Amerindian 3.83
Oceanian 0.53
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.61

Hmmmm... I doubt... My biggest ancestry is northern spanish / southern french (Basque)... "Atlantic" is significant there??? :confused:

Oh... I've just read Endovêlico's message now... so apparently it is...

[pmv74]

Mine was 13.61


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[MysteriousWays]

16.66

[Samnium]

No wonder that I score 12% British and 5% Irish on Ancestry DNA, which I know it doesn't mean that I have any recent British or Irish ancestry, but chances are that it indicates some Celtic-like? components that peak in Britain and Ireland and are considerably present in Iberians.

Long life to the Atlantic facade xD

Atlantic facade that doesn't exist.

[Schwop]

19.85

[gixajo]

Atlantic 32.08 Pct

[Defcon2]

31.42

[Luso]

29.70 (Ancestry kit)

31 (FTDNA kit)

[Pedro Ruben]

Atlantic 27.12 Pct

[PT Tagus]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 26.11
2 North_Sea 24.84
3 West_Med 18.75
4 East_Med 14.90
5 Sub-Saharan 3.66
6 West_Asian 3.56
7 Red_Sea 3.46
8 Baltic 3.41

[Impaler]

Atlantic: 14.59 Pct

[Albannach]

Atlantic 32.33 Pct

[Helen]

Atlantic 31.42

[Rædwald]

North_Sea 34.00 Pct
Atlantic 26.91 Pct
Baltic 10.98 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.49 Pct
West_Med 10.86 Pct
West_Asian 0.78 Pct
East_Med 2.82 Pct
Red_Sea 0.00 Pct
South_Asian 2.07 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.00 Pct
Siberian 0.00 Pct
Amerindian 2.44 Pct
Oceanian 0.39 Pct
Northeast_African 0.26 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.00 Pct

North Sea Strongk :viking

[Coastal Elite]

Population
North_Sea 27.43 Pct
Atlantic 24.56 Pct
Baltic 11.76 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.17 Pct
West_Med 11.07 Pct
West_Asian 9.09 Pct
East_Med 9.34 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.42 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Amerindian 0.88 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[TheOldNorth]

North sea 30.97
Atlantic 21.26
Baltic 10.4
Eastern euro 6.42
West med 11.95
West asian 6.89
East med 8.16
Red Sea 1.58

[TheOldNorth]

Atlantic - 35.64 Pct

damn, I'm jealous

[dududud]

33.98 for my father.

[gixajo]

Why? What means have so much Atlantic? XD

You are a westerner.

[gixajo]

They usually tell me that, Mokordo.

Mokordo? Who is Mokordo?:rolleyes:

[gixajo]

I think he's Alfred the Great ;)

Esta si que no lo cojo, no sé quién es Alfredo el grande.

[gixajo]

Un antiguo rey de Wessex que por así decirlo es como el fundador de Inglaterra.
Es el Don Pelayo de Inglaterra por así decirlo o así lo veo yo XD

Sí, pero no veo la relación conmigo...

Quiero decir, con ese tal Mokordo :rolleyes:

[Albannach]

What does the Atlantic component represent? seems high in both Iberians and British/Irish islanders, my guess would have been neolithic farmer, but as far as I am aware there isn't much Neolithic farmer in the islanders.

[Defcon2]

What does the Atlantic component represent? seems high in both Iberians and British/Irish islanders, my guess would have been neolithic farmer, but as far as I am aware there isn't much Neolithic farmer in the islanders.

The maximum point is located in French Basque, I suppose it is a mixture of Western Hunter Gatherer and Neolithic farmer in western Europeans. In the same way that East Med is a mix of Neolithic farmer and Levantine / Middle Eastern.

[oszkar07]

Must be difference between K13 North Atlantic and K15 Atlantic.

In K13 I get North Atlantic ... 38.89 which is closer to Central European but in K15 I get Atlantic 27.02 .
Not sure what to make of this.

Oszkar
Population
North_Sea 23.98 Pct
Atlantic 27.02 Pct
Baltic 16.79 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.34 Pct
West_Med 7.61 Pct
West_Asian 4.79 Pct
East_Med 3.54 Pct
Red_Sea 1.89 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.04 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan

[Chris596]

17.80 Atlantic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGqnpTxoCIk&feature=emb_rel_end

Full result:

North_Sea 15.50
Atlantic 17.80
Baltic 21.94
Eastern_Euro 9.92
West_Med 10.74
West_Asian 10.38
East_Med 11.13
Red_Sea 0.42
South_Asian 0.00
Southeast_Asian 1.33
Siberian 0.71
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.00
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.13

[Gaditanian]

Atlantic 34.74 Pct

[Korialstrasz]

North_Sea 4.31 Pct
Atlantic 16.04 Pct
Baltic 8.75 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.12 Pct
West_Med 4.50 Pct
West_Asian 33.05 Pct
East_Med 17.34 Pct
Red_Sea 0.63 Pct
South_Asian 1.08 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 3.44 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.74 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

[gixajo]

Must be difference between K13 North Atlantic and K15 Atlantic.

In K13 I get North Atlantic ... 38.89 which is closer to Central European but in K15 I get Atlantic 27.02 .
Not sure what to make of this.

Oszkar
Population
North_Sea 23.98 Pct
Atlantic 27.02 Pct
Baltic 16.79 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.34 Pct
West_Med 7.61 Pct
West_Asian 4.79 Pct
East_Med 3.54 Pct
Red_Sea 1.89 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.04 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan

Don´t know why exactly, I score North_Atlantic 41.06 Pct in k13.

In my k15 my 4 greatest components are:

Atlantic 32.08 Pct
West_Med 23.79 Pct
North_Sea 18.99 Pct
Baltic 8.49 Pct

Total..........83,35

That in k13 correspond basically to this 3 components:

North_Atlantic 41.06 Pct
West_Med 30.06 Pct
Baltic 11.68 Pct

Total.........82,8‬

[Luso]

Don´t know why exactly, I score North_Atlantic 41.06 Pct in k13.

In my k15 my 4 greatest components are:

Atlantic 32.08 Pct
West_Med 23.79 Pct
North_Sea 18.99 Pct
Baltic 8.49 Pct

Total..........83,35

That in k13 correspond basically to this 3 components:

North_Atlantic 41.06 Pct
West_Med 30.06 Pct
Baltic 11.68 Pct

Total.........82,8‬

Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing... What is the difference?

for K15 mine are:

Atlantic 29.70 Pct
North_Sea 20.90 Pct
West_Med 20.85 Pct
Baltic 6.02 Pct

Total= 77.47

For K13:

North_Atlantic 39.92 Pct
West_Med 24.77 Pct
Baltic 11.77 Pct

Total= 76.46

(with 15 pct east med)

[mitalit]

k15:

Atlantic 29.26 Pct
North_Sea 24.96 Pct
West_Med 16.68 Pct
Baltic 7.76 Pct

Total: 78,66

k13:

North_Atlantic 40.79 Pct
West_Med 23.00 Pct
Baltic 12.54 Pct

Total: 76,33

[gixajo]

Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing... What is the difference?



(with 15 pct east med)

I don´t know how it works exactly, but it seems that 15 populations are rearranged/reassigned in 13 components, but I don´t know in which exact way.

Anyway, saying that Iberians are not westerners seeing this it´s kind of ridiculous. We could , it´s true, make subdivisions as North-Western, Center-Western and Sout-Western , we are Western Europe,even if some don't like to admit it.

Even some Atlantic related component could be even go to West Africa component?

[Helen]

K15
Atlantic 31.42 Pct
West_Med 22.08 Pct
North_Sea 16.49 Pct
Baltic 5.49 Pct

75.48%

K13
North_Atlantic 37.16 Pct
West_Med 28.16 Pct
Baltic 9.88 Pct

75.20%

[Luso]

I don´t know how it works exactly, but it seems that 15 populations are rearranged/reassigned in 13 components, but I don´t know in which exact way.

Anyway, saying that Iberians are not westerners seeing this it´s kind of ridiculous. We could , it´s true, make subdivisions as North-Western, Center-Western and Sout-Western , we are Western Europe,even if some don't like to admit it.

Even some Atlantic related component could be even go to West Africa component?

Yeah... we are obviously westerners and genetics show it.

Also...

It is possible... not too sure. I do know that the Atlantic admixture appears to be a hybrid of Mesolithic hunter-gatherers and Neolithic farmers. All Mesolithic and Neolithic samples from Western Europe had about 25% of it.

Prehistoric samples Atlantic admixture:

Mesolithic La Braña (Asturias, Spain) 27.3%
Mesolithic Loscbour (Luxembourg) 29.5%
Neolithic farmer from Stuttgart (LBK culture) 23.2%
Ötzi the Iceman (Chalcolithic farmer from the Alps) 25.5%
Gökhem2 (Swedish Neolithic farmer) 27.7%
Motala12 (Mesolithic HG from Sweden) 10.1%

You can see the so-called Atlantic fusion peaks in the Basque and neighboring communities, accompanied by the Irish, Welsh and Scottish. But apart from that, it's really not centered on the Atlantic. The Galicians have less of this than the Danes and North Germans. High frequency in Sardinia, but much lower frequency in southern Italy and the Balkans, indicates a Mesolithic Western European ancestry.

Map:

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Atlantic-admixture.png

[gixajo]

Yeah we are obviously westerners and genetics show it.

Also...

It is possible... not too sure. I do know that the Atlantic admixture appears to be a hybrid of Mesolithic hunter-gatherers and Neolithic farmers. All Mesolithic and Neolithic samples from Western Europe had about 25% of it.

Prehistoric samples Atlantic admixture:

Mesolithic La Braña (Asturias, Spain) 27.3%
Mesolithic Loscbour (Luxembourg) 29.5%
Neolithic farmer from Stuttgart (LBK culture) 23.2%
Ötzi the Iceman (Chalcolithic farmer from the Alps) 25.5%
Gökhem2 (Swedish Neolithic farmer) 27.7%
Motala12 (Mesolithic HG from Sweden) 10.1%

You can see the so-called Atlantic fusion peaks in the Basque and neighboring communities, accompanied by the Irish, Welsh and Scottish. But apart from that, it's really not centered on the Atlantic. The Galicians have less of this than the Danes and North Germans. High frequency in Sardinia, but much lower frequency in southern Italy and the Balkans, indicates a Mesolithic Western European ancestry.

Map:

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Atlantic-admixture.png

The correlation is not perfect but trend, is quite obvious. There are always exceptions, but I think the trend indicates what I pointed. Maybe as I said, some Western African or North Western African components that Galicians seems to score specially high In iberian peninsula, could be considered as "Atalantic" components, even not being "Europeans".

Anyway, the trend works the same with haplogroups, as yo know.I would be one of those exceptions in this case. :rolleyes:

[Luso]

The correlation is not perfect but trend, is quite obvious. There are always exceptions, but I think the trend indicates what I pointed. Maybe as I said, some Western African or North Western African components that Galicians seems to score specially high In iberian peninsula, could be considered as "Atalantic" components, even not being "Europeans".

Anyway, the trend works the same with haplogroups, as yo know.I would be one of those exceptions in this case. :rolleyes:

Yeah... but haplogroups don't necessarily correlate with autosomal DNA anyways. You are Iberian without a doubt, no matter what your paternal y is. :thumb001:

[Defcon2]

K13

North Atlantic 40.02
West Med 30.16
Baltic 7.8

Total: 77.98

K15

Atlantic 31.42
West Med 25.52
North Sea 19.50
Baltic 2.38

Total: 78.82

[Helena99]

K13
North_Atlantic 32.48 Pct
Baltic 8.41 Pct
West_Med 24.30 Pct
West_Asian 5.26 Pct
East_Med 16.52 Pct
Red_Sea 2.64 Pct
South_Asian 0.86 Pct
Amerindian 7.96 Pct
Northeast_African 0.87 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.70 Pct

K15
North_Sea 16.31 Pct
Atlantic 25.13 Pct
Baltic 5.42 Pct
Eastern_Euro 1.35 Pct
West_Med 20.58 Pct
West_Asian 5.07 Pct
East_Med 13.34 Pct
Red_Sea 3.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.57 Pct
Amerindian 7.57 Pct
Northeast_African 0.87 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.66 Pct

[calxpal]

Atlantic: 19.31

[gixajo]

Yeah... but haplogroups don't necessarily correlate with autosomal DNA anyways. You are Iberian without a doubt, no matter what your paternal y is. :thumb001:

But in this case, the two coincide.

I'm not saying that this has to be the case without a doubt.

I'm just saying it seems plausible that it could be like this.:)

[bained]

Atlantic 18.93%

[Defcon2]

The correlation is not perfect but trend, is quite obvious. There are always exceptions, but I think the trend indicates what I pointed. Maybe as I said, some Western African or North Western African components that Galicians seems to score specially high In iberian peninsula, could be considered as "Atalantic" components, even not being "Europeans".

Anyway, the trend works the same with haplogroups, as yo know.I would be one of those exceptions in this case. :rolleyes:

I don't have an Iberian haplogroup either, hug me my friend.

[gixajo]

I don't have an Iberian haplogroup either, hug me my friend.

:hug2:

[gixajo]

I don't have an Iberian haplogroup either, hug me my friend.

At least your haplogroup is much more common than mine in Iberian peninsula.

[WhatsGoingOnBigGuy]

Atlantic 27.19

[Defcon2]

At least your haplogroup is much more common than mine in Iberian peninsula.

My clade (E1b1a) is not so common in the Iberian peninsula although I have not seen much data about it, most are M215 (E1b1b).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Distribution_of_haplogroup_e1b1a_in_Rosa_2007.jpg

[Luso]

My clade (E1b1a) is not so common in the Iberian peninsula although I have not seen much data about it, most are M215 (E1b1b).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Distribution_of_haplogroup_e1b1a_in_Rosa_2007.jpg

There is a sample from 7000 yr ago Neolithic farmer from northern Spain who had E1b1b meaning it had to have been in Europe for a pretty long time. So there is that.

Some reference maps:


https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_EGJT.gif

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-E1b1b.jpg

[Defcon2]

There is a sample from 7000 yr ago Neolithic farmer from northern Spain who had E1b1b meaning it had to have been in Europe for a pretty long time. So there is that.

Some reference maps:


https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_EGJT.gif

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-E1b1b.jpg

Do not put up the eupedia maps directly because the images are not visible. But my clade is E3b (E1b1a) not that one, it is more dominant of Sub-Saharan Africa than of North Africa.

[Luso]

Do not put up the eupedia maps directly because the images are not visible. But my clade is E3b (E1b1a) not that one, it is more dominant of Sub-Saharan Africa than of North Africa.

Still Iberian :) even Hitler had a sub-sahara paternal haplo haha

[mitalit]

Still Iberian :) even Hitler had a sub-sahara paternal haplo haha

Hitler is Iberian?

[Defcon2]

Still Iberian :) even Hitler had a sub-sahara paternal haplo haha

I think he was E-V13, but he is certainly more European than mine.

[Luso]

Hitler is Iberian?

Nah, but he is the staple euro Nazi and it is ironic he has the haplo e1b1b. That is why I mentioned him ;)

[Luso]

I think he was E-V13, but he is certainly more European than mine.

The majority of haplos in Europe derived from Africa at one point anyway. Well, that is if you believe in Out of Africa hypothesis. It doesn't autosomally make you less euro in your case, and many others.

[gixajo]

I think he was E-V13, but he is certainly more European than mine.

Mientras no te hagas un análisis específico, tu subclado podría no ser ese, mira lo que me han dicho a mí, parece seguro el M-417, pero igual no tanto el Z2125.

[TheMaestro]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.77
2 North_Sea 18.99
3 West_Med 15.19
4 West_Asian 12.05
5 Atlantic 11.29
6 East_Med 9.72
7 Eastern_Euro 8.90
8 Amerindian 1.24


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moldavian @ 9.090784
2 Romanian @ 9.318893
3 Serbian @ 10.912146
4 Bulgarian @ 11.242171
5 Croatian @ 12.265273
6 Hungarian @ 12.509034
7 Austrian @ 15.890920
8 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.618036
9 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.328682
10 East_German @ 17.737106

[Defcon2]

Mientras no te hagas un análisis específico, tu subclado podría no ser ese, mira lo que me han dicho a mí, parece seguro el M-417, pero igual no tanto el Z2125.

No creo que 23andme se equivoque, pero en un futuro puede haber más investigaciones que esclarezcan un poco más mi situación. Aunque no creo que varíe mucho, debe ser un fallo muy cantoso que me otorguen un haplogrupo subsahariano en vez de uno norteafricano cuando los ultimos están mejor estudiados.

[gixajo]

No creo que 23andme se equivoque, pero en un futuro puede haber más investigaciones que esclarezcan un poco más mi situación. Aunque no creo que varíe mucho, debe ser un fallo muy cantoso que me otorguen un haplogrupo subsahariano en vez de uno norteafricano cuando los ultimos están mejor estudiados.

No se como de fiable es 23andme, pero si tienes dudas siempre te queda gastarte pasta en un panel de tu haplogrupo.

De todas formas, que tampoco te quite el sueño algoasí, ya ves tú, si no es más que una chorrada, tú no eres africano ni yo asiático/eslavo o de donde sea mi haplogrupo.

[mitalit]

No creo que 23andme se equivoque, pero en un futuro puede haber más investigaciones que esclarezcan un poco más mi situación. Aunque no creo que varíe mucho, debe ser un fallo muy cantoso que me otorguen un haplogrupo subsahariano en vez de uno norteafricano cuando los ultimos están mejor estudiados.

La de mortimer y 23andme me dan cosas diferentes. En tu caso todas las calculadoras te suelen dar un pequeño porcentaje subsahariano (aunque igual te lo dan para que el haplogrupo parezca mas creible)

[Defcon2]

La de mortimer y 23andme me dan cosas diferentes. En tu caso todas las calculadoras te suelen dar un pequeño porcentaje subsahariano (aunque igual te lo dan para que el haplogrupo parezca mas creible)

Lo del autosómico no tiene nada que ver, me parece que aún no es posible distinguir el SSA del norteafricano correctamente. He visto a bastantes ibéricos puntuando en SSA, y bueno:

Target: Afrikaner
Distance: 3.5956% / 0.03595583
46.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.6 WHG
0.6 Dinka
0.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.2 Gambian

Afrikaners con mezcla norteafricana :picard1:

[gixajo]

Lo del autosómico no tiene nada que ver, me parece que aún no es posible distinguir el SSA del norteafricano correctamente. He visto a bastantes ibéricos puntuando en SSA, y bueno:

Target: Afrikaner
Distance: 3.5956% / 0.03595583
46.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.6 WHG
0.6 Dinka
0.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.2 Gambian

Afrikaners con mezcla norteafricana :picard1:

Todo se pega, menos la hermosura.:p

[Defcon2]

No se como de fiable es 23andme, pero si tienes dudas siempre te queda gastarte pasta en un panel de tu haplogrupo.

De todas formas, que tampoco te quite el sueño algoasí, ya ves tú, si no es más que una chorrada, tú no eres africano ni yo asiático/eslavo o de donde sea mi haplogrupo.

El haplogrupo es una etiqueta que nos define queramos o no, si tengo un haplo chino enfocaría la atención en eso aunque no sea toda mi ascendencia.

[gixajo]

El haplogrupo es una etiqueta que nos define queramos o no, si tengo un haplo chino enfocaría la atención en eso aunque no sea toda mi ascendencia.

Es un marcador antiguo, que nos puede indicar pordonde se han movido nuestros antepasados.

El antepasado que trajo tu haplotipo desde donde fuera, probablemente lleve en la península muchos siglos como mínimo, igual más de mil años, así que es de aquí.

Qué más da el color del que lo trajera? tú sabes la cantidad de sangre de antepasados que has tenido desde entonces que te han aportado sus genes? Eso son tres docenas de SNP´s.

Es uno de los marcadores que antes se encontró que podrían ser útilespor eso se usa ese, , uno más entre cientos que podrían haber cumplido la misma función, y que serían igual de válidos, y que no te marcarían precisamente ese origen.Y entre millones que podrían ser útiles para conocer nuestra estimación étnica, para lo que apenas se usan cientos de miles ahora mismo.

No creo que exista ni un solo Europeo 100% que en 60 generaciones (1500-1800 años) no tenga al menos un antepasado africano. No ya de otro continente, africano.Es una lotería , en el sur de Europa simplemente tenemos más boletos para que nos toque, porque estamos más cerca y hemos tenido más contacto, eso es todo.

[oszkar07]

K13

North Atlantic = 38.89
West Med = 12.33
Baltic= 31.02

K13 Total= 82.24


K15

Atlantic = 27.02
West Med = 7.61
North Sea= 23.98
Baltic= 16.79

K15 Total = 75.4

[TheOldNorth]

Why? What means have so much Atlantic? XD

more bell beaker and megalithic ancestry

[TheOldNorth]

What does the Atlantic component represent? seems high in both Iberians and British/Irish islanders, my guess would have been neolithic farmer, but as far as I am aware there isn't much Neolithic farmer in the islanders.

more likely bell beaker, though they weren't genetically homogeneous, they did share some indo-european ancestry, and a small bit of WHG and a large amount of EEF from the native western women when they came in from the east

[Blemoir]

Atlantic 22.77 Pct

[Scandal]

Atlantic 16.63

[Viriatus91]

I got 36.55%, seems higher than most people here. Is it an Iberian trait?

[Luso]

On K15 I got 29.7% atlantic

[Luso]

I got 36.55%, seems higher than most people here. Is it an Iberian trait?

That’s exceptionally high even for an iberian let alone Portuguese. Highest I’ve seen. Are you sure that is your K15, and not K13?

[Viriatus91]

That’s exceptionally high even for an iberian let alone Portuguese. Highest I’ve seen. Are you sure that is your K15, and not K13?

Yes, it's my K15, on K13 I get 39.45 for North Atlantic. I just figured that Iberian people scored high with Atlantic.

[Luso]

Yes, it's my K15, on K13 I get 39.45 for North Atlantic. I just figured that Iberian people scored high with Atlantic.
Yes, true Iberians do usually score higher in the Atlantic categories. On K13 I got around yours at 39.92.

[El_Abominacion]

Atlantic 12.68 Pct