cheapest way to get aDNA + y-DNA ?

[Proto-Shaman]

which site?

[Dick]

which site?

You're not R1 Proto-Turk master race?

[Gangrel]

You already have ethnicity estimate?

[Tschaikisten]

FTDNA sales.

It's very important to get markers when you test your Y-DNA.

[Böri]

You're not R1 Proto-Turk master race?

He just seeks to confirm maybe. Just imagine if he happens to be E1. :)

[Proto-Shaman]

You're not R1 Proto-Turk master race?

that page does not exist ;)

[Gangrel]

He just seeks to confirm maybe. Just imagine if he happens to be E1. :)

why have you not done one yet

[Dick]

that page does not exist ;)

It would be funny if it did.

[Proto-Shaman]

It would be funny if it did.

I will own that domain for future use :P

[Proto-Shaman]

what about 37 markers? how far will I get into detail? How many mutations for example within any haplogroup I will get?

[Dema]

Go for Yseq Y18 50-60$ and who cares about autosomal

[Drenica]

Do ydna 12 markers + family finder on ftdna.

[Proto-Shaman]

Do ydna 12 markers + family finder on ftdna.

you can only chose y37, y67 or y111. Where did you see y12?

[Drenica]

you can only chose y37, y67 or y111. Where did you see y12?

I guess they stopped with 12. It was possible before.

[Dema]

Here is link http://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=32

You can Alpha Beta also its like Y37 but its more expansive, this one will pretty much give you a idea where you belong. All depends on HG

[Tschaikisten]

you can only chose y37, y67 or y111. Where did you see y12?

Link for Y12.

https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Project_Pending

[Dick]

^ do y12 then do autosmal later. they freeze your sperm for future tests, kipchak.

you need to cum in a cup.

[Dema]

you can only chose y37, y67 or y111. Where did you see y12?

You need to join some project to be able to order y12, you can freely go with Albanian project it doesn't matter - https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?group=AlbanianBloodlines&code=B11086

[Drenica]

^ do ty12 then do autosmal later. they freeze your sperm for future tests, kipchak.

I agree. Autosmal can be done later.. shitloads to choose from. I did ydna first . Ordered y37 .

[Proto-Shaman]

^ do y12 then do autosmal later. they freeze your sperm for future tests, kipchak.

you need to cum in a cup.

too late, I already ordered 1 DNA kit from myheritage.com for 59 $

[Proto-Shaman]

You need to join some project to be able to order y12, you can freely go with Albanian project it doesn't matter - https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?group=AlbanianBloodlines&code=B11086

how deep you can look in the mutations with y12?

like R1a1b1ab1.......?

[Dick]

too late, I already ordered 1 DNA kit from myheritage.com for 59 $

that's not ydna tesat.

[Tschaikisten]

how deep you can look in the mutations with y12?

like R1a1b1ab1.......?

Pretty small. But good good solution can be Y12 + predicted hg SNP pack, together it cost between 150-170 dollars.

[Proto-Shaman]

that's not ydna tesat.

yes I know, only autosomal.

[Dema]

how deep you can look in the mutations with y12?

like R1a1b1ab1.......?

Not at all deep, you will know somewhat, but it all depends on your hg. You wont be able to compare really with others, y12 is very basic, i dont recommend. Better Yseq Alfa or Alfa Beta. Cheaper and better.

[Drenica]

too late, I already ordered 1 DNA kit from myheritage.com for 59 $

MyHeritage is shit for autosomal. You could of gotten it for free with familyfinder or 23andme data.

[Proto-Shaman]

Pretty small. But good good solution can be Y12 + predicted hg SNP pack, together it cost between 150-170 dollars.
you get your "G2a-L42>YSC33" results like this?

[Proto-Shaman]

MyHeritage is shit for autosomal. You could of gotten it for free with familyfinder or 23andme data.

why? aren't the ethnicity calculations so good?

[Proto-Shaman]

Not at all deep, you will know somewhat, but it all depends on your hg. You wont be able to compare really with others, y12 is very basic, i dont recommend. Better Yseq Alfa or Alfa Beta. Cheaper and better.

Alfa Beta sounds good, it costs only $85.00, how deep is it when you are R1, G2 or J2 for example?

[Tschaikisten]

you get your "G2a-L42>YSC33" results like this?

I know that I will be that before testing at FTDNA, because I was tested in one Serbian lab which cooperate with Serbian DNA Project.

Then I tested 12 markers at FTDNA and G-L497 FTDNA pack (of course there was already YSC33+ Serbs before my test).

[Drenica]

why? aren't the ethnicity calculations so good?

It gives many I've seen weird results and their components are weird but it could be different for non Euros. 23andme, familyfinder are the best for Balkanites atleast but certain DNA tests are better for certain ethnicities.. for example there is also ancestrydna, and DNA tribes which go very far back but I dont think they are good for Albanians but you're not Albanian.. my issue with ancestrydna is how they put Albania under East Europe and made a Greece/Italy component which peaks in Albanians and not Greeks or Italians

[Dema]

Alfa Beta sounds good, it costs only $85.00, how deep is it when you are R1, G2 or J2 for example?

With Alpha Beta which is same as Y37 you will know pretty much sublcade where you belong and you will be able to somewhat compare yourself with others.

Its a good place to start with. You will be able to upload your markers to Ysearch and use FTDNA data base for relatives in that way, also compare yourself with FTDNA public projects and so on..

[Proto-Shaman]

With Alpha Beta which is same as Y37 you will know pretty much sublcade where you belong and you will be able to somewhat compare yourself with others.

Its a good place to start with. You will be able to upload your markers to Ysearch and use FTDNA data base for relatives in that way, also compare yourself with FTDNA public projects and so on..

thank you very much, I will do this :thumb001:

[Gangrel]

why? aren't the ethnicity calculations so good?

Nah it's shit. Gave me 4.7% North African and the highest North African I get on any Gedmatch calc is like 1.4% or some shit :confused:

[Kriptc06]

Yseq

[Proto-Shaman]

ftdna.com is run by a Jew (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222635-ftdna-com-is-run-by-a-Jew)

[Proto-Shaman]

With Alpha Beta which is same as Y37 you will know pretty much sublcade where you belong and you will be able to somewhat compare yourself with others.

Its a good place to start with. You will be able to upload your markers to Ysearch and use FTDNA data base for relatives in that way, also compare yourself with FTDNA public projects and so on..

what about YSEQ-Delta ($95.00) or YSEQ-Gamma ($95.00), aren't they better than YSEQ-Alpha-Beta ($85.00). Where is the difference? More subclades?

Link: https://www.yseq.net/index.php?cPath=23&osCsid=c7024071ffc608c0262736df5056ffe9

[Kelmendasi]

what about YSEQ-Delta ($95.00) or YSEQ-Gamma ($95.00), aren't they better than YSEQ-Alpha-Beta ($85.00). Where is the difference? More subclades?

Link: https://www.yseq.net/index.php?cPath=23&osCsid=c7024071ffc608c0262736df5056ffe9
Those two test more markers than Alpha-Beta meaning that you will get more accuracy when predicting your clade

[Babak]

23andme bro

[Proto-Shaman]

23andme bro
I can't find any products of this site. Do you have any link?

[Babak]

I can't find any products of this site. Do you have any link?

https://www.23andme.com/

[Dragoon]

you can only chose y37, y67 or y111. Where did you see y12?

You can choose a lower number. But you have to look in the right place. It is not promoted.

[Dragoon]

Anyway,

atdna+ydna+mtdna: 23andme
-their autosomal is probably the best, but still needs improvement).
-their ydna+mtdna is very basic

for ydna+mtdna: ftdna
-their autosomal is weaker than above.
-ydna and mtdna are more detailed

which is best price will vary depending on what you pick.

[Longobarda]

and for women?