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Arduti

09-28-2017, 06:20 AM

Actually, i'm seeing Syrians everyday in the center of Athens , some look like him but most of them can easily pass as Europeans.
For some reason Syrians are very light skinned and i've seen many blond ones.

Syria is close to Europe, and they mixed with Europeans more. They've crossed with Greeks many different times.
Also, Syrians aren't exactly Arabs, they're an Arabized people.
Same like me, I'm not an Arab but I'm Arabized culturally, linguistically, maybe even religiously -- but the semantics of the religious identifier is up for debate because I think Arabs are Semiticized religiously

Odin

09-28-2017, 06:42 AM

East-Med.

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 06:46 AM

Syria
Or west Iraq (Al-Anbar)

I've also seen some Punjabis who look like him

P.S. many people who claim to be Greek are just Greek Orthodox Arabs

Nonsense

He is a classic Med type not atpyical for Greeks at all
His beard gives him some Arab vibe.

He is from Methana"North East Peloponese"

Hadouken

09-28-2017, 07:00 AM

mix Ouroboros with Viriato and add some extra berid and maybe slight alpinization and you get this guy lol

nightrider+

09-28-2017, 07:04 AM

Not sure if quadroon or mulatto.

Pigling

09-28-2017, 07:12 AM

In third pic he looks Dravidian influenced.

He might be Greek Gypsy.

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 07:16 AM

Not sure if quadroon or mulatto.

None of those is just a darker non-slavicized type of Mainland Greek

Arduti

09-28-2017, 07:30 AM

Nonsense

He is a classic Med type not atpyical for Greeks at all
His beard gives him some Arab vibe.

He is from Methana"South East Peloponese"

Wasn't paying attention to his beard, but his beard only makes him more handsome
He still looks Syrian or Iraqi to me

Maybe the famous Syrian-Iraqi nose can be attributed to Greek admixture though, who knows.

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 08:38 AM

None of those is just a darker non-slavicized type of Mainland Greek

Yeah-nah.

This is village football team from Sparti you can tell who the atypical is

http://www.report24.gr/wp-content/uploads/%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%BC%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%81%CE%B9%C E%BF-%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%B9%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%AF%C E%B1%CF%82-%CF%83%CF%80%CE%B1%CF%81%CF%84%CE%B7-%CE%B2%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%AC%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%82-1.jpg

This guy is Arab admixed

Danaan

09-28-2017, 08:45 AM

Yeah-nah.

This is village football team from Sparti you can tell who the atypical is

http://www.report24.gr/wp-content/uploads/%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%BC%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%81%CE%B9%C E%BF-%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%B9%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%AF%C E%B1%CF%82-%CF%83%CF%80%CE%B1%CF%81%CF%84%CE%B7-%CE%B2%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%AC%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%82-1.jpg

This guy is Arab admixed

Yeah? How?

Btw one guy in the photo you posted has darker skin.

Diaz

09-28-2017, 08:49 AM

Yeah-nah.

This is village football team from Sparti you can tell who the atypical is

http://www.report24.gr/wp-content/uploads/%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%BC%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%81%CE%B9%C E%BF-%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%B9%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%AF%C E%B1%CF%82-%CF%83%CF%80%CE%B1%CF%81%CF%84%CE%B7-%CE%B2%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%AC%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%82-1.jpg

This guy is Arab admixed

Yes, he doesn't look like a Slavovlach from Thessaloniki.

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 08:51 AM

Yeah? How?

Btw one guy in the photo you posted has darker skin.

Well if you throw up nonsense like Slavic admixed then Passas is Arab admixed.

Juniors of Asteras Tripolis

They must be Slav admixed based on the logic here - as they not swarthy Levantine leaning phenotypes

http://www.sport365.gr/media/k2/items/cache/17d229bd330a05b39c5f5c00ae4bb2a3_XL.jpg

Danaan

09-28-2017, 10:49 AM

Well if you throw up nonsense like Slavic admixed then Passas is Arab admixed.

Juniors of Asteras Tripolis

They must be Slav admixed based on the logic here - as they not swarthy Levantine leaning phenotypes

http://www.sport365.gr/media/k2/items/cache/17d229bd330a05b39c5f5c00ae4bb2a3_XL.jpg

But based on history Slavic admixture is more probable than Arab admixture (there were Saracene pirates though but I'm not aware of any settlements).
Then the surnames are often telling. I have mentioned Κούγιας. Ηe has a Slavic surname and looks German according to some people here. Can pass as a Serb at least.

Diaz

09-28-2017, 11:04 AM

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 11:22 AM

Yeah-nah.

This is village football team from Sparti you can tell who the atypical is

http://www.report24.gr/wp-content/uploads/%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%BC%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%81%CE%B9%C E%BF-%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%B9%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%AF%C E%B1%CF%82-%CF%83%CF%80%CE%B1%CF%81%CF%84%CE%B7-%CE%B2%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%AC%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%82-1.jpg

This guy is Arab admixed

He is absolutely not Arab admixed or in other"better" words he doesn't has to be an Halfarab to look the way he looks.
I don't find him atypical

and i don't get the point of your post.

What do you mean exactly?

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 11:32 AM

Greeks obviously have Slavic admixture based on autosomal dna and surnames. In before the Greek unification of education most Northern Greeks considered themselves as Slavovlach descent and many were Aromanian, Bulgarian, Albanian also.

Alot of Greeks never considered themselfes Slavovlachs and neither do they look Slavic οr have such surnames

The funny thing is if a dark type from Southern Italy or a Greek Island is posted none tells he looks atypical and everyone says its Southern Italian or
Greek Islander look.

If a dark or a little more exotic Greek guy from the Greek Mainland is posted who passes well in the Greek Islands,Sicily,or Cyprus and does not
look Slavic at all people immidiately go crazy and say this cannot be he is atypical,he is Gypsy,he is Arab,he is Anadolid..:lol:

How stupid is that :picard1:?

I'm sick and tired of this bullshit

Did you ever consider the geographical location of the Southern Greek Mainland?
Its South East from Sicily.
The climate is predominantly Mediteranean.
Why should native Greeks from these regions look signicantly lighter or more northern than a Sicilian a Cretan or an Cyclade Islander???
And the Slavic influence in Greeks is completly overrated.
Only because of the chauvinism,egocentrism of some Greek people with Vlach background...

Diaz

09-28-2017, 11:37 AM

Alot of Greeks never considered themselfes Slavovlachs and neither do they look Slavic.

The funny thing is if a dark type from Southern Italy or a Greek Island is posted none tells he looks atypical and everyone says its Southern Italian or
Greek Islander look.

If a dark or a little more exotic Greek guy from the Greek Mainland is posted who passes well in the Greek Islands,Sicily,or Cyprus and does not
look Slavic at all people immidiately go crazy and say this cannot be he is atypical,he is Gypsy,he is Arab,he is Anadolid..:lol:

How stupid is that :picard1:?

I'm sick and tired of this bullshit

Did you ever consider the geographical location of the Southern Greek Mainland?
Its South East from Sicily.
The climate is predominantly Mediteranean.
Why should native Greeks from these regions look signicantly lighter or more northern than a Sicilian a Cretan or an Cyclade Islander???
And the Slavic influence in Greeks is completly overrated.
Only because of the chauvinism,egocentrism of some Greek people with Vlach background...

Greece isn't as isolated as parts of Italy is so foreign influence is more expected there. I don't see the problem why some users complain about their countrymen being dark. I'd bet they would feel very euphoric, they saw a Greek with Scandinavian look.

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 11:43 AM

Greece isn't as isolated as parts of Italy is so foreign influence is more expected there. I don't see the problem why some users complain about their countrymen being dark. I'd bet they would feel very euphoric, they saw a Greek with Scandinavian look.

I wouldn't feel euphoric about that
If a Greeks happens to look that way it isn't a problem for me neither"i don't consider him more or less Greek than others because of that"

That being said i'm sick and tired of these theories like Greece has been filled with Slavs e.c.t
Enough of it

Diaz

09-28-2017, 11:49 AM

I wouldn't feel euphoric about that
If a Greeks happens to look that way it isn't a problem for me neither"i don't consider him more or less Greek than others because of that"

That being said i'm sick and tired of these theories like Greece has been filled with Slavs e.c.t
Enough of it

They haven't been filled with Slavs, but the Northern regions did intermix with Slavs to some extent, it doesn't mean that the original population became completely expelled. It's not a disease to have Slavic admixture.

I'd say these are close reference of what Greeks look like as 'basal'

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/20130814_AT-GR_Dimitris_Siovas_2374.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/20130814_AT-GR_Sokratis_Papastathopoulos_2368.jpg

If a Greek look like this, I'd assume at least some recent Slavic ancestry:

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/bc/7d/f8/bc7df809064a286a7b7c894bce1d9150--hjk-helsinki-st-gallen.jpg

Hellenas

09-28-2017, 11:56 AM

Typical Athenian Greek.

Alpine-Med, south-east European.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vq-QFpuZOz0/hqdefault.jpg

http://rise.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/15776570_10154980873469430_835129338_o-480x600.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SNoX4IVqfiI/hqdefault.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xHKJf-LB24U/hqdefault.jpg

With this kind of beard he looks like a Cretan.

https://i.imgur.com/mOAsJzr.jpg

And he also looks like Hercules.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Blond%20Greek%20heroes/daa9b43b-a7ac-446e-9b18-2a0e432c00ff_zpslm5zpdkz.jpg~originalhttp://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Blond%20Greek%20heroes/58f069db-1763-48e3-b46f-ec68eed05d82_zps3za3wax2.jpg~originalhttp://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Blond%20Greek%20heroes/c7fa2d93-1258-4627-8a60-96762e869b65_zpslw3drhmx.jpg~original

He belongs to this racial type.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Alpines/066e2ab3-4871-4c66-8dbc-4184fc7f2eea_zpsyedvgmi6.jpg~original
"A Greek from Sparta. In Greece it is frequently blended with a local tall Mediterranean strain."
Carleton Stevens Coon(American Anthropologist).

The pure Greek.

http://i.imgur.com/yCLhbLO.png?3

Composite Greeks: the Ancient and the Modern
http://dienekes.awardspace.com/pictures/composites/

Arabs looks like that.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Israeli-Arabs-chant-Islam_zps1cgeaj4f.jpg~original

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/5da72238-1307-4758-bfec-2e1ec9f011df_zpseiszd3dz.jpg~original

http://s7.postimg.org/pi5zsdzqz/640x392_79745_259489.jpg

http://images.alarabiya.net/98/87/640x392_76485_82459.jpg

http://www.state.gov/cms_images/030408_happy.jpg

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/db7077aa-9540-40d6-9593-81ec595a17f4_zpsdfldtjed.jpg~original

http://www.biyokulule.com/sawiro/sawirada_waaweyn/Arab-African2010(2).jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ABUlxqB3JQg/VjB2crXyGeI/AAAAAAABPxw/0mFia__K3CY/s1600/BBaVdzJ.img.jpeg

http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/3/ArabP.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRBrmUQUcAAP-sx.jpg

Hellenas

09-28-2017, 11:58 AM

In the Near East/Levant you usually find these 3 phenotypes:

1. Armenoids.

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BXYW0W/syrian-man-in-traditional-head-scarf-old-city-damascus-syria-BXYW0W.jpg

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DDGBJA/young-syrian-woman-with-hands-off-syria-painted-on-her-cheek-at-demonstration-DDGBJA.jpg

2. Iranids(Middle Easterner brown to light brown skinned).

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/mideast_jordan_syrian_refugees.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/26/article-2378815-1B007228000005DC-702_634x467.jpg

Also Asiatic Alpines.

http://storage.torontosun.com/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1297779295773_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=420x

http://syrianobserver.com/tjcgArtImages/images/IMG-TFI-67324.jpg

3. Aegean Euro-Mediterranids(at the coasts)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVAjwaoWEAQqqDj.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02129/Syrian_2129640b.jpg

And all these types mixed together.

Sources:

"Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near-East"
http://www.dwc.knaw.nl/DL/publications/PU00015950.pdf

"The early inhabitants of western Asia"
https://archive.org/stream/earlyinhabitants00luscrich#page/n3/mode/2up

"The racial characteristics of Syrians and Armenians"
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5758366b/f415.image[/QUOTE]

Levantines = Near Easterners(Armenoids) + Middle Easterners + Europeans.

Bosniensis

09-28-2017, 12:01 PM

Dinarids are teh best... screw everyone else. :cool:

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 12:06 PM

They haven't been filled with Slavs, but the Northern regions did intermix with Slavs to some extent, it doesn't mean that the original population
became completely expelled

This i can concur with
Yes,to some extent
As ancient Greeks said Παν Μετρον Αριστον

It's not a disease to have Slavic admixture.

Certainly its not but it isn't a disease for a Greek to look more Southern/Dark than what is typical for people from the European countries North of Greece neither.

@Hellenas :thumbs
Thank for your post

nightrider+

09-28-2017, 02:21 PM

None of those is just a darker non-slavicized type of Mainland Greek

https://i.imgur.com/vKs0OM7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EubV5vH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/74T7q0b.jpg

yubbi

09-28-2017, 02:55 PM

difficult to classify

Newsboy

09-28-2017, 04:50 PM

Looks mostly Gracile-Med. Doesn't pass in Syria or Iraq.

He's just tanned and bearded.

Hellenas

09-28-2017, 04:56 PM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_SAxcEaiUfc/UiGwK7_kxxI/AAAAAAAAACE/Fmxs3DE1eb8/s1600/photo.jpg

http://gaukartifact.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/socrates_louvre.jpg

https://studiahumanitatispaideia.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/busto-di-socrate-marmo-copia-romana-da-originale-greco-del-iv-secolo-a-c-dalla-villa-dei-quintilii-sulla-via-appia-museo-pio-clementino-musei-vaticani.jpg?w=1400

http://images.greece.com/info/Socrates.jpg

http://www.notablebiographies.com/images/uewb_09_img0650.jpg

https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/og-socrates-259.jpg

http://duckduckgo.com/i/7984d517.jpg
Meyers Blitz-Lexikon (Leipzig, 1932)
shows the German cartographer Heinrich
Kiepert as an example of the Alpine type.

Socrates Was Black

https://downtownblackandbrown.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/socrates_black.jpeg

http://www.rollitup.org/t/socrates-was-black.768467/

:lol00002:

kleenex

09-28-2017, 06:23 PM

Hey lets just say that on mainland (as on the islands) phenotypes vary which makes Greece one of the more innately diverse European countries.

Freeroostah

09-28-2017, 06:32 PM

He looks typical Greek and can pass everywhere.

Having a long dark beard doesnt make you a Taliban or Arab lol

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 08:45 PM

Hey lets just say that on mainland (as on the islands) phenotypes vary which makes Greece one of the more innately diverse European countries.
Nonsense

This guy is from Methana its North East Peloponese Dude,not an Island.

And his type isn't atypical for a Mainlander neither.
Mainland Greeks can be pure Med and the same dark as most Islanders can be.

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 08:46 PM

Nonsense

This guy is from Methana its North East Peloponese Dude,not an Island.

And his type isn't atypical for a Mainlander neither.
Mainland Greeks can be pure Med and the same dark as most Islanders can be.

Islanders are not dark phenotypically at all - this is just a myth proported by low IQ'ers like Sikeliot

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 08:56 PM

Yeah-nah.

This is village football team from Sparti

Sorry, Thanassis Papas is from Methana"North East Pelopenese" not South East.

He is even further Northern Mainland compared to Sparti :lol:

His look is not atypical and don't worry exists in Laconia and the Southern Mainland also :lol:

The Greek people you posted here from Sparti or the other photos aren't atypical neither.
I wouldn't say the look Slavicized.

I just say that this greek guy who doesn't look slavicized at all is a good counter example of the theory that Greek Mainlanders are looking slaviczed.

Instead you passed this guy immediately as Arab looking:picard1:
I never claimed the other lighter types of Greek Mainlanders look slavicized..

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 08:59 PM

You can see photos of locals from Samos Island and the ridiculousness of low IQ nonsense

http://my-samos.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/blog-post_3660.html

Laberia

09-28-2017, 08:59 PM

Islanders are not dark phenotypically at all - this is just a myth proported by low IQ'ers like Sikeliot

Greek islanders in many cases are North Africans. During the history, many times the islands were emptied and repopulated by various people, many of them Africans.

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 09:01 PM

Sorry, Thanassis Papas is from Methana"North East Pelopenese" not South East.

He is even further Northern Mainland compared to Sparti :lol:

His look is not atypical and don't worry exists in Laconia and the Southern Mainland also :lol:

The Greek people you posted here from Sparti or the other photos aren't atypical neither.
I wouldn't say the look Slavicized.

I just say that this greek guy who doesn't slavicized at all is an good counter example of the theory that Greek Mainlanders are looking slaviczed.

Instead you passed this guy immediately as Arab looking:picard1:
I never claimed the other lighter types of Greek Mainlanders look slavicized..

Actually you did say that. You claimed Pappas is the pure Greek phenotype that is not Slavicized.

The only Pure Greek as an Example is the Patriarchate of Constantinople

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/36800000/Patriarch-Bartholomew-patriarch-bartholomew-i-of-constantinople-36856366-512-351.jpg

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:02 PM

Islanders are not dark phenotypically at all - this is just a myth proported by low IQ'ers like Sikeliot

This is true
As i said most Islands are on par with the Mainland.
Both have dark and light types.

But Sikeliot and others think this is impossible;) lol

To avoid misunderstandings the other Greek Mainland types you posted don't look slavic to me but some
folks here"not me" are claiming they do;)

This is why i refered to this Greek guy here,who is a Southern Mainlander and impossible to be claimed as Slavic looking,to show
them their idiotism.

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 09:03 PM

Greek islanders in many cases are North Africans. During the history, many times the islands were emptied and repopulated by various people, many of them Africans.

But you are Turkcuck. You have been cucked by Turks what does it matter what a Turk triracial says? :laugh:

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:07 PM

Actually you did say that. You claimed Pappas is the pure Greek phenotype that is not Slavicized.

The only Pure Greek as an Example is the Patriarchate of Constantinople

No its not the only pure Greek,sorry

Actually you did say that. You claimed Pappas is the pure Greek phenotype that is not Slavicized.

No i said he is a darker non-slavicized looking type of Greek,when someone else called him Mullato.

This is what i meant and why mentioned it.
Before that i didn't even mention it but just classified him as Greek Med type and this is what he is,sorry

Hellanas classified him as Alpine-Med

I don't know if he is more classic Med or Alpine-Med anyway he is no Arabid,Armenoid or distinct oriental type.
End

Laberia

09-28-2017, 09:09 PM

But you are Turkcuck. You have been cucked by Turks what does it matter what a Turk triracial says? :laugh:

You are a Turkish sperm, it's all documented.

Ujku

09-28-2017, 09:10 PM

He doesn't look MENA , he looks Greek.

It's the beard that it's fucked up, he is probably too poor to go to a proper barber because of the shitty ass channel he works for.

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 09:10 PM

You are a Turkish sperm, it's all documented.

But you have Ali Pasha as a national Hero - but he raped your women. This is cuckoldry to a very high level not known anywhere to the modern man :laugh:

nightrider+

09-28-2017, 09:10 PM

Methana is Arvanite land. Anyway this guy is not pure Med (lmao) just because he's dark. He's something weird and unclassifiable. I bet he looks even more exotic without the beard.

Ujku

09-28-2017, 09:11 PM

But no matter what , he is one of my.favorite comedians atm.

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 09:12 PM

He doesn't look MENA , he looks Greek.

It's the beard that it's fucked up, he is probably too poor to go to a proper barber because of the shitty ass channel he works for.

Of course he looks Greek - but you can't say he is the pure Greek and not Slavicized because other Greeks can easily say - your homeland is in Anatolia.

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:12 PM

Methana is Arvanite land. Anyway this guy is not pure Med (lmao) just because he's dark. He's something weird and unclassifiable. I bet he looks even more exotic without the beard.

What do you think a Greek must look like?
Like Brad Pitt or Dolph Lundgren?

Post at least one example

Sikeliot

09-28-2017, 09:14 PM

mix Ouroboros with Viriato and add some extra berid and maybe slight alpinization and you get this guy lol

This. He looks like Viriato to me.

Berid. I don't see Syrian, Iraqi, or any of those guesses.

Laberia

09-28-2017, 09:14 PM

But you have Ali Pasha as a national Hero - but he raped your women. This is cuckoldry to a very high level not known anywhere to the modern man :laugh:

Seriously, you are a person without life. I doubt that you are typing from your home now. For sure your wife kicked you out of the house.

Laberia

09-28-2017, 09:16 PM

Of course he looks Greek - but you can't say he is the pure Greek and not Slavicized because other Greeks can easily say - your homeland is in Anatolia.

A typical greek.

Sikeliot

09-28-2017, 09:17 PM

He fits far better as Iberian or Sardinian than he does anywhere in the Middle East.

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:19 PM

Of course he looks Greek - but you can't say he is the pure Greek and not Slavicized because other Greeks can easily say - your homeland is in Anatolia.

Why so autistic

I didn't say he is the one and only pure Greek.
I meant he is an example of a Greek for whom it is impossible being claimed as Slavic looking

Nothing more

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:20 PM

He fits far better as Iberian or Sardinian than he does anywhere in the Middle East.

Yes,and he is from the North East Peloponese,which is Southern Mainland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methana

nightrider+

09-28-2017, 09:20 PM

What do you think a Greek must look like?
Like Brad Pitt or Dolph Lundgren?

Post at least one example

Must look like? What is this supposed to mean? How about Socrates, Alexander, Plato, Aristotle, Thucydides, Euripides, Xenophon and other people that look nothing like this "pure Med"?

Ujku

09-28-2017, 09:21 PM

Of course he looks Greek - but you can't say he is the pure Greek and not Slavicized because other Greeks can easily say - your homeland is in Anatolia.

You make no sense lately..

Sikeliot

09-28-2017, 09:21 PM

Yes,and he is from the North East Peloponese,which is Southern Mainland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methana

He is also close to a former poster here named "alfieb" who was 3/4 Sicilian and 1/4 North Italian or something.

nightrider+

09-28-2017, 09:22 PM

Btw Albos, this guy is your cousin, an Arvanite.

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 09:23 PM

Why so autistic

I didn't say he is the one and only pure Greek.
I meant he is an example of a Greek for whom it is impossible being claimed as Slavic looking

Nothing more

How do you know that? Slav invasions was mostly Avar driven you are aware most of South Slavs are not actually "white" but Avar looking, right?

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:26 PM

Must look like? What is this supposed to mean? How about Socrates, Alexander, Plato, Aristotle, Thucydides, Euripides, Xenophon and other people that look nothing like this "pure Med"?

He looks more similar to some of them then you think..

Again post examples of modern Greeks who you think look typical Greek or more similar to the ancient Greeks you listed!

I'm waiting...

Otherwise keep quite

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:28 PM

How do you know that? Slav invasions was mostly Avar driven you are aware most of South Slavs are not actually "white" but Avar looking, right?

I don't give a fuck.

Why does a Greek person have to spend half of his time here to discuss what Slavs are ..?

If what you said about South Slavs is true they aren't real Slavs neither

and it would mean that even Sicilians can be passed as Slavic looking easily :lol:

kleenex

09-28-2017, 09:31 PM

Nonsense

This guy is from Methana its North East Peloponese Dude,not an Island.

And his type isn't atypical for a Mainlander neither.
Mainland Greeks can be pure Med and the same dark as most Islanders can be.

No I agree with what you're saying there are dark and light Greeks in every region

Ujku

09-28-2017, 09:31 PM

Btw Albos, this guy is your cousin, an Arvanite.

What's funny is that an Arvanite looks more ancient Greek than most Greeks hahha

When i imagine of ancient Greeks , his face comes in my mind.

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:32 PM

Btw Albos, this guy is your cousin, an Arvanite.

Alot of Arvanites are blond and even lighter than what is average for Greece.

In Greece when you see a very blond person he is often of Arvanite background or Vlachic background

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:33 PM

What's funny is that an Arvanite looks more ancient Greek than most Greeks hahha

Yes its because he doesn't look Arvanite or stereotypical Albanian :lol:

Sikeliot

09-28-2017, 09:34 PM

and it would mean that even Sicilians can be passed as Slavic looking easily :lol:

Not quite. Sicilians rarely look like South Slavs except the heavily Med ones. Greeks have more overlap with South Slavs than Sicily does.

nightrider+

09-28-2017, 09:36 PM

He looks more similar to some of them then you think..

Again post examples of modern Greeks who you think look typical Greek or more similar to the ancient Greeks you listed!

I'm waiting...

Otherwise keep quite

He only looks somewhat similar to Socrates who I didn't mean to post, himself was atypical and considered notoriously ugly in Ancient Greece. As for moderns, these (the men) come close: https://imgur.com/a/y7l8q

nightrider+

09-28-2017, 09:37 PM

When i imagine of ancient Greeks , his face comes in my mind.

That's because you are dumb.

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 09:38 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kSo7cJdOub4/VecECuDWgfI/AAAAAAABMZk/CgJO6dplaSs/s1600/FWTSHS%2B3.jpg

http://sacramentokingsphotos.com/images/galleries/Best%20of%20Georgios%20Papagiannis/GettyImages-647201132.jpg

http://www.grreporter.info/en/sites/default/files/armia-jeni.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f1/2b/dd/f12bdd6e7d4b48194105ef7a06cd3e1f.jpg

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/14693916_681348882042477_1803159697587437568_n.jpg ?ig_cache_key=MTM3MTQ3NjkxMDE0NzgwMTQ2MQ%3D%3D.2

http://www.nato.int/pictures/2000/000625/b000625o.jpg

Up is the Greek.

Ujku

09-28-2017, 09:41 PM

The people you posted catgeorge look slavic to me.

Ujku

09-28-2017, 09:42 PM

That's because you are dumb.

I'm or you are delusional...He looks extremely Greek face it.

Tooting Carmen

09-28-2017, 09:42 PM

Coarse Med

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 09:43 PM

The people you posted catgeorge look slavic to me.

Because they're not Caucasian looking like Albanians?

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:43 PM

Not quite. Sicilians rarely look like South Slavs except the heavily Med ones. Greeks have more overlap with South Slavs than Sicily does.

Another person who obviously wants to misunderstand me here.

Read in which context i said this and you understand

It was in reply to catgeorge's wierd claims

catgeorge

09-28-2017, 09:44 PM

Another person who obviously wants to misunderstand me here.

Read in which context i said this and you understand

It was in reply to catgeorge's wierd claims

I am not the one who said the guy is pure Greek because he is not Slavicized.

justme

09-28-2017, 09:44 PM

he looks nothing like a greek, he looks asian... sure greeks are generally darker then most europeans but they don't typically look like that...

nightrider+

09-28-2017, 09:45 PM

I'm or you are delusional...He looks extremely Greek face it.
He doesn't, he's Arvanite and also racially close to the Albanian girl you posted. Coincidence? I think not.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CSjb-gK4nVo/hqdefault.jpg

justme

09-28-2017, 09:47 PM

Tauromachos

09-28-2017, 09:47 PM

He only looks somewhat similar to Socrates who I didn't mean to post, himself was atypical and considered notoriously ugly in Ancient Greece. As for moderns, these (the men) come close: https://imgur.com/a/y7l8q

The first guy not so much
The second yes

But in terms of pigmentation i have to tell you that alot of ancient Greeks where neither blond nor blue eyed.

Dick

09-28-2017, 09:48 PM

If what you said about South Slavs is true they aren't real Slavs neither

the word Slav is broad. Slavs plot all over the place like germanics but they're still Slavs. for example a Russian wont plot close to a Czech or a Swiss german with a Swede.

Ujku

09-28-2017, 09:49 PM

Justme stop thumbing me.down you idiot.... If you have no idea how Greeks look like then stfu and gtfo from this thread kid.

Ujku

09-28-2017, 09:52 PM

He doesn't, he's Arvanite and also racially close to the Albanian girl you posted. Coincidence? I think not.

So now Arvanites are of Albanian origin...

Freeroostah

09-28-2017, 10:54 PM

I don't give a fuck.

Why does a Greek person have to spend half of his time here to discuss what Slavs are ..?

If what you said about South Slavs is true they aren't real Slavs neither

and it would mean that even Sicilians can be passed as Slavic looking easily :lol:

None of the Greeks would even mention Slavs if it wasn't for sikeliot lol
We know who we are and we have different ways.... ;)

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Hellenas

09-28-2017, 11:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaNb3NxXb3k

Besides of ancient Greek.

https://i.imgur.com/NToAoqd.jpg?1

http://www.theoi.com/image/O20.5BAkheloios.jpg

http://www.theoi.com/image/P14.7Amphitrite.jpg

He also looks like a Greek priest.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/aa/a7/8a/aaa78ad0e8387cc06e475c8c014848d6--a-level-art-awesome-beards.jpg

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/greek-orthodox-priests-attend-the-traditional-washing-of-the-feet-picture-id469003840

And like a pirate.

https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/1204904_f520.jpg

https://resizing.flixster.com/vshYaAUZGFIrzYyasQXoRcICrxA=/1600x1200/v1.bjsxMTA4MDU2O2o7MTc0NzI7MTIwMDsxNjAwOzEyMDA

Tooting Carmen

09-28-2017, 11:20 PM

Nine pages about a slightly darker-than-average Greek man, whereas most of my threads struggle to even reach two pages?! Just LOL at this forum!

Hellenas

09-28-2017, 11:46 PM

Nine pages about a slightly darker-than-average Greek man, whereas most of my threads struggle to even reach two pages?! Just LOL at this forum!

Darker than average? :confused: He is full haired/bearded and gives this impression. Has pale white skin color, dark brown hairs/eyes etc. He is typical southern Greek and not "darker".

Greek U20 National Team 2017

http://www.eurobasket.com/Greece/Photos/ntU2017.jpg
http://thegreekobserver.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Basketball-Team.jpg
http://www.eurobasket.com/Greece/Photos/ntU1817.jpg

Light brown haired Greeks only are round 20%, so they are atypical. :D

"over 80 per cent have dark brown hair, the rest have hair evenly divided between black and the lighter shades of brown."

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII14.htm

Carleton Coon gave his racial type as typical for Greece.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Alpines/066e2ab3-4871-4c66-8dbc-4184fc7f2eea_zpsyedvgmi6.jpg~original
"A Greek from Sparta. In Greece it is frequently blended with a local tall Mediterranean strain."

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate14.htm

Tooting Carmen

09-28-2017, 11:48 PM

Tooting Carmen

09-28-2017, 11:50 PM

Btw Hellenas those are good photos: we should post them en masse every time Sikeliot comes up with his "Greeks as Slavs" nonsense.

Sikeliot

09-28-2017, 11:58 PM

Btw Hellenas those are good photos: we should post them en masse every time Sikeliot comes up with his "Greeks as Slavs" nonsense.

They still look somewhat Bulgarian and distinguishable from Sicilians. Though I do think the man in this thread looks kind of Iberian.

Sikeliot

09-28-2017, 11:59 PM

the people on the last picture look greek the rest look slavic...

Yes i agree, the people he posts always look Slavic.

Tooting Carmen

09-28-2017, 11:59 PM

They still look somewhat Bulgarian and distinguishable from Sicilians. Though I do think the man in this thread looks kind of Iberian.

They are a lot more Med-looking than Bulgarians, even if their features are not the same as South Italians or Iberians either.

Sikeliot

09-28-2017, 11:59 PM

They are a lot more Med-looking than Bulgarians, even if their features are not the same as South Italians or Iberians either.

They look somewhere between other Southern European types and Bulgarian.

Tooting Carmen

09-29-2017, 12:01 AM

They look somewhere between other Southern European types and Bulgarian.

Perhaps in facial features, but in colouring they are more Med-looking than most regions of Spain and Italy.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 12:02 AM

Btw Hellenas those are good photos: we should post them en masse every time Sikeliot comes up with his "Greeks as Slavs" nonsense.

:thumb001:

It's not only Sikeliot, also Greeks post light brown and blond haired or blue eyed ATYPICAL Greeks by trying to pass them as typical. :wink

This called northernism and "I wanna be Northern euro looking"!

Just ask how many of Greek posters who post here lighter Greeks are light haired they themselves...

Like many other southern europeans, many Greeks here suffer from racial inferiority complexes. :picard1:

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 12:04 AM

Perhaps in facial features, but in colouring they are more Med-looking than most regions of Spain and Italy.

Coloring doesn't matter to me. I am comparing them to far southern Italians in which case the features do not look quite as extreme.

Tooting Carmen

09-29-2017, 12:09 AM

Coloring doesn't matter to me. I am comparing them to far southern Italians in which case the features do not look quite as extreme.

Pigmentation can often be just as important when telling apart ethnic groups as are facial traits. Does Lewis Moody pass in Italy or Iberia to you, for example? He has a horsey Atlantid face, after all...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/01/18/2BE1D7C300000578-3218621-image-m-65_1441127820934.jpg

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 12:10 AM

Pigmentation can often be just as important when telling apart ethnic groups as are facial traits. Does Lewis Moody pass in Italy or Iberia to you, for example? He has a horsey Atlantid face, after all...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/01/18/2BE1D7C300000578-3218621-image-m-65_1441127820934.jpg

Italians do not have a horsy Atlantid look. At least the southerners do not.

Tooting Carmen

09-29-2017, 12:13 AM

Italians do not have a horsy Atlantid look. At least the southerners do not.

Some can do. Anyway, does he pass in Italy and/or Iberia to you or not?

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 12:16 AM

Btw Hellenas those are good photos: we should post them en masse every time Sikeliot comes up with his "Greeks as Slavs" nonsense.

Some more Greeks http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5CwBryFtp4c/ULR0XeSHEFI/AAAAAAABQdI/4ja6G2zzm4M/s1600/e3e0b6a1c871359d63f17e4c1e69d37b_L.jpg

http://www.newsbeast.gr/files/1/2012/04/22/mihaloliakos.thumbnail.jpg

Same guy in his younger day when he was Sunntanned as the Sicilian nightclubers Sikeliot is posting
https://i2.wp.com/jailgoldendawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/mixaloliakos_areios.jpg?resize=541%2C321

Theodoros Kolokotronis Greek Arkadian and leader of the relvolution
Dark Med type
https://i3.wp.com/www.sarotiko.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/17-martiou-1821-maniates-ipsonoun-simaia-epanastasis-areopoli-2.jpg

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 12:18 AM

They still look somewhat Bulgarian and distinguishable from Sicilians.

Greeks look Greek having Greek facial features not Sicilian-Bulgarian as you claim. And what you call "Bulgarian", meaning the Mediterranean Bulgarians, once was Thracian sharing shame facial and cranial features with ancient Greeks.

"According to Dr. Beth Cohen, Thracians had "the same dark hair and the same facial features as the Ancient Greeks."[66]"

Beth Cohen (ed.) Not the Classical Ideal: Athens and the Construction of the Other in Greek Art. Leiden, 2000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracians

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Trak_peltasta.jpg/250px-Trak_peltasta.jpg

Thracians and Bulgarians of Thracian origin are Greek looking, not the vice versa as you claim.

Noman

09-29-2017, 12:19 AM

He looks punjabi

Tooting Carmen

09-29-2017, 12:20 AM

While Bulgarians and Greeks do have overlap, the former has a lot of Gorids and Baltids in particular that would look very foreign for Greece.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 12:21 AM

Greeks look Greek having Greek facial features not Sicilian-Bulgarian as you claim. And what you call "Bulgarian", meaning the Mediterranean Bulgarians, once was Thracian sharing shame facial and cranial features with ancient Greeks.

According to Dr. Beth Cohen, Thracians had "the same dark hair and the same facial features as the Ancient Greeks."[66]

Beth Cohen (ed.) Not the Classical Ideal: Athens and the Construction of the Other in Greek Art. Leiden, 2000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracians

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Trak_peltasta.jpg/250px-Trak_peltasta.jpg

Thracians and Bulgarians of Thracian origin are Greek looking, not the vice versa as you claim.

I have read some time ago that the Greek Aegean Med type exists also in Bulgaria besides Greece

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 12:24 AM

While Bulgarians and Greeks do have overlap, the former has a lot of Gorids and Baltids in particular that would look very foreign for Greece.

:thumb001:

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 12:31 AM

I have read some time ago that the Greek Aegean Med type exists also in Bulgaria besides Greece

That's what Aris Poulianos said:

"Dr. Aris N. Poulianos states that Thracians, like modern Bulgarians, belong mainly to the Aegean anthropological type.[68]"

Poulianos, Aris N., 1961, The Origin of the Greeks, Ph.D. thesis, University of Moscow, supervised by F.G.Debets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracians#Physical_appearance

Carleton Coon said Bulgarians are Mediterraneans(Thracians), Neo-Danubians(Slavs), Dinarics, Nordics.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII15.htm

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 12:39 AM

Darker than average? :confused: He is full haired/bearded and gives this impression. Has pale white skin color, dark brown hairs/eyes etc. He is typical southern Greek and not "darker".

Greek U20 National Team 2017

http://www.eurobasket.com/Greece/Photos/ntU2017.jpg
http://thegreekobserver.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Basketball-Team.jpg
http://www.eurobasket.com/Greece/Photos/ntU1817.jpg

Light brown haired Greeks only are round 20%, so they are atypical. :D

"over 80 per cent have dark brown hair, the rest have hair evenly divided between black and the lighter shades of brown."

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII14.htm

Carleton Coon gave his racial type as typical for Greece.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Alpines/066e2ab3-4871-4c66-8dbc-4184fc7f2eea_zpsyedvgmi6.jpg~original
"A Greek from Sparta. In Greece it is frequently blended with a local tall Mediterranean strain."

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate14.htm

All those boys have brown hair - even Tsipras has brown hair. Light brown hair around 20% is nonsense. The Greeks who post their photos here either have brown to light brown hair and a blonde. Even our Cypriot friend has brown to light brown hair.

This is Anatolian society in Thessaloniki with dark brown to black hair

http://www.foititikanea.gr/images/pontos-7.jpg

Greeks typically have brown to light brown hair

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-k6WSodpa9WI/UIBMnLQdkxI/AAAAAAAAAUY/2xsKGPkHamM/s1600/Pame_demonstration_Thessaloniki.jpg

Greeks graduating from sciences

http://www.aftodioikisi.gr/mediafiles/2015/06/-----------1.jpg

Greek nightclub

http://www.foititikanea.gr/images/foithtoupoli-1.jpg

You can not enforce Anatolianisms on the mainland Greeks - I do not think it is very fair.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 12:44 AM

These are Eastern Greek Anatolians

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/greek-orthodox-priests-attend-the-traditional-washing-of-the-feet-picture-id469003840

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 12:44 AM

While Bulgarians and Greeks do have overlap, the former has a lot of Gorids and Baltids in particular that would look very foreign for Greece.

And similarly there are Pontid, some level of Alpine types, and yes, even some Gorid that is not present in Sicily. On the other hand I would say in Sicily there is some presence of South Med, more gracilized Med types, and some level of Levantine.

I think you only see the differences one way (Greek to Bulgarian) but not in the other (Greek to Sicilian).

Some can do. Anyway, does he pass in Italy and/or Iberia to you or not?

No.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 12:46 AM

Tooting Carmen

09-29-2017, 12:47 AM

And similarly there are Pontid, some level of Alpine types, and yes, even some Gorid that is not present in Sicily. On the other hand I would say in Sicily there is some presence of South Med, more gracilized Med types, and some level of Levantine.

I think you only see the differences one way (Greek to Bulgarian) but not in the other (Greek to Sicilian).

No.

I've always said that Greeks tend to be bulkier and stockier than South Italians, but they still look closer to them than to any Slavs including Serbs and Bulgarians. Anyway, there are Alpines in Sicily and Gracile Meds in Greece.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 12:50 AM

I don't think the majority of Greeks is blond"never was" blond types exist but most Greeks would have rather hair ranging
from dark blond,light brown to dark brown or black

Don't know any mainland Greek with black hair unless it is mixed with Anatolian - the only exceptions are Cretans due to being equidistant. They are in between Cyprus and Peloponnesos and 100% of Peloponessians I know in Australia have brown to light brown hair.

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 12:51 AM

I've always said that Greeks tend to be bulkier and stockier than South Italians, but they still look closer to them than to any Slavs including Serbs and Bulgarians. Anyway, there are Alpines in Sicily and Gracile Meds in Greece.

But "bulkier and stockier" has some level of relation to their ratio of northern to southern ancestry and you don't see that. I definitely do not think you can say that all regions of Greece look more like Sicily than like Bulgaria. Definitely not the case.

Between the two (Sicily and Greece) coloring is roughly the same, features are quite different. I still think Sicilians overall look more like Ashkenazim.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 12:57 AM

Don't know any mainland Greek with black hair unless it is mixed with Anatolian - the only exceptions are Cretans due to being equidistant. They are in between Cyprus and Peloponnesos and 100% of Peloponessians I know in Australia have brown to light brown hair.

You are completly wrong.

This guy the comedian as i have said is from the North East Peloponese by the way,deal with it.

Majority of Southern Greeks have dark hair.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 12:59 AM

I don't think the majority of Greeks is blond"never was" blond types exist but most Greeks would have rather hair ranging
from dark blond,light brown to dark brown or black

The Anatolians you posted are not much darker than the Greek graduates or Nightclubers in the last 2 photos.
I don't see a big difference.

What is the point and what does it matter?What does it have to do with Anatolian or Non Anatolian?

It does matter - Anatolians are not spawned from Europe they are typically Euro+Caucasian or Euro + Persian mixed. The Greeks that spawned from mainland are your typical South Europeans and will not accept anything less - all the rest is nonsense and unfair representation on the mainland Greeks. END.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 01:00 AM

You are completly wrong.

This guy the comedian as i have said is from the North East Peloponese by the way,deal with it.

Majority of Southern Greeks have dark hair.

Brown hair yes but not Black.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 01:03 AM

It does matter - Anatolians are not spawned from Europe they are typically Euro+Caucasian or Euro + Persian mixed. The Greeks that spawned from mainland are your typical South Europeans and will not accept anything less - all the rest is nonsense and unfair representation on the mainland Greeks. END.

Since when Southern Euroepean means blond or light brown hair?

nightrider+

09-29-2017, 01:06 AM

Amazing how cybernautic manages to be even more clueless than Hellenass. Kolokotronis is dinaric like most Arcadians.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 01:09 AM

Since when Southern Euroepean means blond or light brown hair?

Its more than that - it also includes Caucasian, Levant and Persian features like the Armenoids..along with Black hair which is not Greek but more African or Arab.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 01:12 AM

All those boys have brown hair - even Tsipras has brown hair. Light brown hair around 20% is nonsense. The Greeks who post their photos here either have brown to light brown hair and a blonde. Even our Cypriot friend has brown to light brown hair.

This is Anatolian society in Thessaloniki with dark brown to black hair

http://www.foititikanea.gr/images/pontos-7.jpg

Greeks typically have brown to light brown hair

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-k6WSodpa9WI/UIBMnLQdkxI/AAAAAAAAAUY/2xsKGPkHamM/s1600/Pame_demonstration_Thessaloniki.jpg

Greeks graduating from sciences

http://www.aftodioikisi.gr/mediafiles/2015/06/-----------1.jpg

Greek nightclub

http://www.foititikanea.gr/images/foithtoupoli-1.jpg

You can not enforce Anatolianisms on the mainland Greeks - I do not think it is very fair.

:lol00002:

Dear Slavo-Greek or Celto-Greek or Germano-Greek or whatever mix your are, I think you said once you have light hairs, so you are a minority in Greece and you don't even represent Greeks. Typical for some "Greek" Macedonians.

Let's start.

Your complaints το Carleton Coon who said Greeks are over 80% DARK brown haired. Aris Poulianos said the same thing.

Males

76,64% Dark haired(10,20% very Black)

21% Brown haired

2% Blond haired

Females

78% Dark haired(20% very Black)

21% Brown haired

1% Blond haired

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?219351-%26%23931%3B%26%23964%3B%26%23945%3B%26%23964%3B%2 6%23953%3B%26%23963%3B%26%23964%3B%26%23953%3B%26% 23954%3B%26%23940%3B-%26%23967%3B%26%23961%3B%26%23974%3B%26%23956%3B%2 6%23945%3B%26%23964%3B%26%23959%3B%26%23962%3B-%26%23964%3B%26%23961%3B%26%23953%3B%26%23967%3B%2 6%23974%3B%26%23957%3B-%26%23948%3B%26%23941%3B%26%23961%3B%26%23956%3B%2 6%23945%3B%26%23964%3B%26%23959%3B%26%23962%3B-%26%23943%3B%26%23961%3B%26%23953%3B%26%23948%3B%2 6%23945%3B%26%23962%3B&p=4605962&viewfull=1#post4605962

The Greeks from the Greek National team posted have DARK brown hairs(not brown) and that's the typical Greek hair color.

Most Greek posters posting here light brown and blond Greeks are dark haired themselves, I have see that happening often in other south Europeans countries too.

35-40% of the Greek people are either Anatolian Greeks or have at least 1 Anatolian Greek ancestor and they have no Blacker hairs than rest of Greeks, that's just your weird claims, on the contrary the most BLACK haired greek group are Vlachs having 74,36% Black hairs according to Aris Poulianos(see statistics above).

You can not enforce Anatolianisms on the mainland Greeks - I do not think it is very fair.

What? :confused: What my partly Anatolian Greek ancestry have do to with the typical Greek hair color? And why you keep calling me Anatolian when 20% of Greek are Anatolian Greeks and 20% more Greeks have 1 Anatolian Greek ancestor just like me? Do you call 40% of Greeks as Anatolians? Your problem! We southern Greeks we still call Macedonians as Bulgaro-Slavs, our problem. :D

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 01:17 AM

You need to step out of the house more before Anatolianizing the whole of Greece which seems to be the agenda of yours.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 01:18 AM

I've always said that Greeks tend to be bulkier and stockier than South Italians, but they still look closer to them than to any Slavs including Serbs and Bulgarians. Anyway, there are Alpines in Sicily and Gracile Meds in Greece.

Alpine-Meds,Dinaro-Meds are types common to both Greece and Italy

Atlanto-Meds exist in both Italy and Greece,perhabs more common to Italy

Some cherrypicking form another angle here are some blond Sicilians form West"Messina" and Inland"Caltinisetta"

https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10658553_851160918252034_990017403287640044_o.jpg? oh=c38bf339fd317769b40fca371c4bc24a&oe=5A4092BF
https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10514353_855706081130851_898649786654752881_o.jpg? oh=493323994b7ae93ad58167ef07914c66&oe=5A5CF669https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/1956782_851167564918036_7680441875305742982_o.jpg? oh=ddb3b0df9ababbfaea31f51a71c1e741&oe=5A88A9C8 https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/315970_256666677702076_2051231771_n.jpg?oh=d04efd0 5a23202c30c20bddd3ea18164&oe=5A5020ADhttps://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/431521_345539138814829_1563907456_n.jpg?oh=e3ee76c 4eafc0228997a4abac25815a2&oe=5A4DEE6Bhttps://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/424128_345538625481547_188683330_n.jpg?oh=9fbeab26 fbb1728f063f1dee24ed0335&oe=5A4822FC

Each photo includes at least one blond or light person
First:The last girl from left to right
Second:First guy from left to right
Third:Both guys
Fourth:The guy predominantly,the girl also not to mention she would pass in the Balkans without problems
Fifth:The guy
Sixth:The girl

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 01:22 AM

These are Greeks from 2017 parade with likely Anatolian atypical in there

http://newpost.gr/storage/photos/c_1140px_600px/201403/stratiotiki-parelasi3.jpg

Freeroostah

09-29-2017, 01:28 AM

Greeks look Greek having Greek facial features not Sicilian-Bulgarian as you claim. And what you call "Bulgarian", meaning the Mediterranean Bulgarians, once was Thracian sharing shame facial and cranial features with ancient Greeks.

"According to Dr. Beth Cohen, Thracians had "the same dark hair and the same facial features as the Ancient Greeks."[66]"

Beth Cohen (ed.) Not the Classical Ideal: Athens and the Construction of the Other in Greek Art. Leiden, 2000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracians

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Trak_peltasta.jpg/250px-Trak_peltasta.jpg

Thracians and Bulgarians of Thracian origin are Greek looking, not the vice versa as you claim.

This +++++++++

The only reason why we cluster we Bulgarians and even Romanians is because of their Thracian heavy Neolithic component.
Studies have shown that ancient Thracians were genetically closer to modern Greeks than the modern Bulgarian population which cluster more with Serbs and Romanians.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 01:33 AM

You need to step out of the house more before Anatolianizing the whole of Greece which seems to be the agenda of yours.

These are Greeks from 2017 parade with likely Anatolian atypical in there

http://newpost.gr/storage/photos/c_1140px_600px/201403/stratiotiki-parelasi3.jpg

I don't have any agenda Slav(this goes for every time you call me "Anatolian" you Bulgaroman). You are just illiterate and in ignorance.

Statistics

Population strength

Today, about 40% of the population of Greece claims full or partial descent from the Asia Minor refugees; as does an almost equal percentage of diasporan Greeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_refugees#Population_strength

Impact on the Greek psyche

The descendants of the refugees have found hundreds of organizations and institutes in Greece and in the diaspora to promote their civilization and to keep in touch with their roots. Various museums in Greece (such as the Benaki Museum) display artifacts from Asia Minor, Pontus, Cappadocia and Eastern Thrace to denote the Greek presence and emphasize the origins of about 40% of the population of modern Greece.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_refugees#Impact_on_the_Greek_psyche

"The numerous Greeks from the Asia Minor and East-Thracian regions, accounting for about 35% of the total population of Greece, have been incorporated as refugees in the social structure."

Vlasis Agtzidis(History teacher who has cooperated with many Universities)

http://www.hri.org/forum/diaspora/mikrasia/siopi.html

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 01:34 AM

Alpine-Meds,Dinaro-Meds are types common to both Greece and Italy

Atlanto-Meds exist in both Italy and Greece,perhabs more common to Italy

Some cherrypicking form another angle here are some blond Sicilians form West"Messina" and Inland"Caltinisetta"

https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10658553_851160918252034_990017403287640044_o.jpg? oh=c38bf339fd317769b40fca371c4bc24a&oe=5A4092BF
https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10514353_855706081130851_898649786654752881_o.jpg? oh=493323994b7ae93ad58167ef07914c66&oe=5A5CF669https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/1956782_851167564918036_7680441875305742982_o.jpg? oh=ddb3b0df9ababbfaea31f51a71c1e741&oe=5A88A9C8 https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/315970_256666677702076_2051231771_n.jpg?oh=d04efd0 5a23202c30c20bddd3ea18164&oe=5A5020ADhttps://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/431521_345539138814829_1563907456_n.jpg?oh=e3ee76c 4eafc0228997a4abac25815a2&oe=5A4DEE6Bhttps://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/424128_345538625481547_188683330_n.jpg?oh=9fbeab26 fbb1728f063f1dee24ed0335&oe=5A4822FC

Each photo includes at least one blond or light person
First:The last girl from left to right
Second:First guy from left to right
Third:Both guys
Fourth:The guy predominantly,the girl also not to mention she would pass in the Balkans without problems
Fifth:The guy
Sixth:The girl

In the photos though there were some people too exotic for mainland Greece. But there are far fewer mainland Greeks (of fully native/non-Pontic origin) too exotic for southern Italy. That is the difference.

I don't know why people on here have to accept the existence of light Sicilians but it's taboo to mention light Greeks.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 01:39 AM

Vlasis Agtzidis(History teacher who has cooperated with many Universities)

Fuck the statistics - Agtzidis is more North Caucasian and even worse he is a Cultural Marxist representative of Syriza. He is another subhuman trying to justify his existence in order to wipe out the Native Greek presence.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 01:42 AM

In the photos though there were some people too exotic for mainland Greece. But there are far fewer mainland Greeks (of fully native/non-Pontic origin) too exotic for southern Italy. That is the difference..

I don't know why people on here have to accept the existence of light Sicilians but it's taboo to mention light Greeks.

Taboo? Are you serious ?

The forum is full of threads about light type Greeks,Nordic Greeks,Slavs in Greece,Vlacho-Slavs e.c.t

Alot of Greek users make threads where they prefere to post only the most light types of Greeks they can get
when a Greek person is posted in particular one from the Mainland who is a little bit darker or has naturaly dark hair eyes
he is claimed as atypical
people say he is not native,he is a Gypsy,a Turk, an Arab when even you say that at most he passes in Southern Italy or Iberia

I have enough of this

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 01:43 AM

Taboo? Are you serious ?

The forum is full of threads about light type Greeks,Nordic Greeks,Slavs in Greece,Vlacho-Slavs e.c.t

Alot of Greek users make threads where prefere to post only the most light types of Greeks they can get
when a Greek person is posted in particular one from the Mainland who is a little bit darker or has naturaly dark hair eyes
he is claimed as atypical
people say he is not native,he is a Gypsy,a Turk, an Arab when even you say that at most he passes in Southern Italy or Iberia

I have enough of this

I said the guy in this thread passes as Iberian to me, or Sardinian and that he doesn't look Arab. I don't think very many Greeks at all have an Arab-like appearance.

But even darker pigmented Greeks can look Balkan Slavic to me. See these:

https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21034528_2054249351470350_3303456630850464628_n.jp g?oh=da9e64c8616d21a5728fc1b4a2411424&oe=5A49ABDD
https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21078833_2054250044803614_9164606033356069524_n.jp g?oh=789d640501c0a7091e2e7be95a5f041a&oe=5A48CB5B
https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21078445_2054250108136941_3784760062196533076_n.jp g?oh=1b4be0f90768c2610d1ef51950f9f742&oe=5A4A5332

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 01:45 AM

University of Patra in Peloponnesos

http://cdn.thebest.gr/media/images/original/fwtjduzbrw57fe8628aa868.jpg

http://www.bestpatras.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/sc17slider6-1020x528-1172x607.jpg

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 01:47 AM

University of Patra in Peloponnesos

http://cdn.thebest.gr/media/images/original/fwtjduzbrw57fe8628aa868.jpg

http://www.bestpatras.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/sc17slider6-1020x528-1172x607.jpg

Most of them have dark brown or black hair

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 01:49 AM

Most of them have dark brown or black hair

They don't look wholesale Balkan (some of them look Iberian and one woman -- bottom photo left looks Sicilian) but I definitely think their facial structure is consistent with Balkan. I still think they look marginally more "northern" than Sicilians in the southeast even though less different than Palermo/Agrigento would be.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 01:50 AM

Most of them have dark brown or black hair

2 out of 25 have black hair which makes it less than 10%

You can not make it the typical when it is not

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 01:50 AM

But there are far fewer mainland Greeks (of fully native/non-Pontic origin) too exotic for southern Italy. That is the difference.

A more exotic type of Greek mainlander with natural black hair and when tanned he exceeds the average Calabrian,Apulian or Sicilian in terms of swarthiness
https://i2.wp.com/jailgoldendawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/mixaloliakos_areios.jpg?resize=541%2C321

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 01:51 AM

Fuck the statistics - Agtzidis is more North Caucasian and even worse he is a Cultural Marxist representative of Syriza. He is another subhuman trying to justify his existence in order to wipe out the Native Greek presence.

:lol00002:

Anatolian Greeks were 1.500.000 people among 5.500.000 mainland Greeks and they didn't stay isolated but almost assimilated by mainland Greeks, do the maths by yourself.

Stupid trying to attack me by attacking my partly Anatolian GREEK ancestry, with this way you attack to almost half of Greeks.

You light haired Greeks are a rarity and you will stay such.

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 01:51 AM

A more exotic type of Greek mainlander with natural black hair and when tanned he exceeds the average Calabrian,Apulian or Sicilian in terms of swarthiness
https://i2.wp.com/jailgoldendawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/mixaloliakos_areios.jpg?resize=541%2C321

He might exceed the average, but he is not unable to pass. He actually is strongly Berid and also fits in Iberia to me (especially young). On the other hand I could show you some Sicilians who only pass in Cyprus or Dodecanese.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 01:52 AM

2 out of 25 have black hair which makes it less than 10%

You can make it the typical when it is not

More than 50% in these photos have dark hair not blond

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 01:53 AM

:lol00002:

Anatolian Greeks were 1.500.000 people among 5.500.000 mainland Greeks and they didn't stay isolated but almost assimilated by mainland Greeks, do the maths by yourself.

Stupid trying to attack me by attacking my partly Anatolian GREEK ancestry, with this way you attack to almost half of Greeks.

You light haired Greeks are a rarity and you will stay such.

I do not consider myself light haired but I definitely do not share the traits of Anatolians.

kleenex

09-29-2017, 01:54 AM

Amazing how cybernautic manages to be even more clueless than Hellenass. Kolokotronis is dinaric like most Arcadians.
I have seen other paintings (renditions) of Kolokotronis where he is much lighter same for Niketas Turgophagos.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 01:54 AM

More than 50% in these photos have dark hair not blond

Brown hair is not blonde hair...Black is darker than dark brown for your information and most in the photo has brown hair and this is in Peloponessos. Now stop the Anatolianisms.

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 01:55 AM

I do not consider myself light haired but I definitely do not share the traits of Anatolians.

I don't think anyone in 90% of these photos looks anything but European, even when no Slavic input is found. The more recent Anatolian element is clearly foreign/intrusive.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 01:55 AM

I said the guy in this thread passes as Iberian to me, or Sardinian and that he doesn't look Arab. I don't think very many Greeks at all have an Arab-like appearance.

But even darker pigmented Greeks can look Balkan Slavic to me. See these:

https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21034528_2054249351470350_3303456630850464628_n.jp g?oh=da9e64c8616d21a5728fc1b4a2411424&oe=5A49ABDD
https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21078833_2054250044803614_9164606033356069524_n.jp g?oh=789d640501c0a7091e2e7be95a5f041a&oe=5A48CB5B
https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21078445_2054250108136941_3784760062196533076_n.jp g?oh=1b4be0f90768c2610d1ef51950f9f742&oe=5A4A5332

But even darker pigmented Greeks can look Balkan Slavic to me. See these:

Balkan Slavic? Those you posted are only "Slavic" in your dreams!

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 01:58 AM

I don't think anyone in 90% of these photos looks anything but European, even when no Slavic input is found. The more recent Anatolian element is clearly foreign/intrusive.

You don't get the point Catgeorge is claiming that Black hair can come only from Non European ancestry.

nightrider+

09-29-2017, 01:58 AM

If you don't have black hair, a pig nose, prognathism and a tiny narrow braincase you are a Slav. Only on TA.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 01:59 AM

Balkan Slavic? Those you posted are only "Slavic" in your dreams!

Hint look at the blond Sicilian guys i posted they look more slavic than these

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 02:00 AM

Hint look at the blond Sicilian guy i posted they look more slavic than these

That's one person out of many and it's coincidental because there is no Slavic DNA in Sicily except that which was carried indirectly from Greece.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 02:01 AM

If you don't have black hair, a pig nose, prognathism and a tiny narrow braincase you are a Slav. Only on TA.

If you don't have blond hair,a pig nose and and a narrow nordicist brain you are an Anadolid,Armenoid or West Asian only on TA

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 02:02 AM

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 02:06 AM

If you don't have blond hair,a pig nose and and a narrow nordicist brain you are an Anadolid,Armenoid or West Asian only on TA

Nonsense - but you can't pass the Anatolian as a typical mainland Greek.

Arduti

09-29-2017, 02:10 AM

He doesn't look MENA , he looks Greek.

It's the beard that it's fucked up, he is probably too poor to go to a proper barber because of the shitty ass channel he works for.

Many Middle Eastern people look Greek. Many Middle Easterners aren't Arabs but simply Arabized peoples.
Greeks have invaded and occupied the Middle East many times. The genes must have passed.

And he still looks Syrian and/or Iraqi to me.
Methinks you haven't seen many Syrians, and the cherrypicking of the pictures of Arabs on this thread is manipulative...

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 02:11 AM

Greeks have invaded and occupied the Middle East many times. The genes must have passed.

Get with the program, genetic studies demonstrated this was not true long ago.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 02:14 AM

Nonsense - but you can't pass the Anatolian as a typical mainland Greek.

The comedian here is not Anatolian and he looks like a darker Med type from the Southern Greek Mainland.
He is not even that dark in some pictures it has to be mentioned that the lightening of pictures and the angle can make the same person appear much
darker or lighter than he realy is.

In daylight fotos with sunlight as the case with the Greek sportsmen and soldiers you posted people appear alot lighter than in Nightclub photos
Sikeliot posts

So far at least 3 users with independent points of view Hellenas,Me and Sikeliot have classified him as an european type

Me:As Med
Hellenas:Alpine-Aegean Med
Sikeliot:Guessed him as Iberian looking

Arduti

09-29-2017, 02:15 AM

Get with the program, genetic studies demonstrated this was not true long ago.

I assume you're talking about haplogroups and not admixture. Because admixture can completely cycle-in or cycle-out of any tribe/haplogroup within 10 to 12 generations, thereby changing the look of the tribe/haplogroup, especially if breeding was selective.

kleenex

09-29-2017, 02:15 AM

Ok let's put it this way: Do you not agree that these people AS A WHOLE look more "northern" than Sicilians do. Forget one or two outliers but overall facial structure and look.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222711-Do-these-Greeks-from-Thessaly-fit-better-in-Iberia-Bulgaria-Albania-Tuscany-or-Sicily

They do but you chose Thessalians. BTW I have cousins (through marriage) who are very dark haired, more so than myself, and have Dinaric/East Med features who are pure Thessalians from Karditsa so I'm not sure it's so easy to say that the further North you go the lighter the populace. Greece is not like Italy in that sense.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 02:16 AM

I do not consider myself light haired but I definitely do not share the traits of Anatolians.

I thought you said somewhere you are light brown haired or something like that. There are not Anatolians in Greece stupid Slavoman, there are only Anatolian GREEKS and GREEKS with partly Anatolian GREEK ancestry. :D

There are out-european types to all Greeks groups but to claim Anatolian Greeks are Anatolians and not Greeks is hilarious Slavo-Vlach ridiculousness! You still sound like the banned troll Lavrentis!

This have been discussed to an other thread in depth, bringing that again and again here show your Slavo-Vlach complexes.

It becomes more and more boring. :bored:

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 02:16 AM

They do but you chose Thessalians. BTW I have cousins (through marriage) who are very dark haired, more so than myself, and have Dinaric/East Med features who are pure Thessalians from Karditsa so I'm not sure it's so easy to say that the further North you go the lighter the populace. Greece is not like Italy in that sense.

I don't think there is any part of the mainland with the exception of Laconia where the people look equally southern as Sicilians.

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 02:16 AM

I assume you're talking about haplogroups and not admixture. Because admixture can completely cycle-in or cycle-out of any tribe/haplogroup within 10 to 12 generations, thereby changing the look of the tribe/haplogroup, especially if breeding was selective.

It wasn't, there is no particular genetic affinity of the Levant to Greece.

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 02:21 AM

If it makes Greeks feel better they are the only Europeans of their latitude without North African ancestry.. :lol:

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 02:23 AM

:lol00002:

Anatolian Greeks were 1.500.000 people among 5.500.000 mainland Greeks and they didn't stay isolated but almost assimilated by mainland Greeks, do the maths by yourself.

Stupid trying to attack me by attacking my partly Anatolian GREEK ancestry, with this way you attack to almost half of Greeks.

You light haired Greeks are a rarity and you will stay such.

+ There where immigrations of Greeks from Anatolia to the Mainland before 1922
In Byzantine times e.c.t

How stupid is it to think that the first time Greeks from Anatolia came to the Mainland in 1922?
And never before.:1127:

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 02:24 AM

kleenex

09-29-2017, 02:25 AM

I don't think there is any part of the mainland with the exception of Laconia where the people look equally southern as Sicilians.

Ok but you have to be referring to Laconian Maniots.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 02:26 AM

It wasn't, there is no particular genetic affinity of the Levant to Greece.

The Levant is not the measure of all and everyhing in the Mediteranean.
Also alot of Semitc people have no direct connection with Med people

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 02:26 AM

Ok but you have to be referring to Laconian Maniots.

Yes, exactly.

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 02:27 AM

+10

I feel like you have some sort of deep down intent to find the lightest Sicilians you can to try to disprove the notion of any northern input in Greece -- as if saying "if light types even appear in Sicily with them only having 10-12% North Euro, Greeks having light types has nothing to do with Slavic or other northern input" even though it is not just coloring but features that are what I am speaking of.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 02:27 AM

The comedian here is not Anatolian and he looks like a darker Med type from the Southern Greek Mainland.
He is not even that dark in some pictures it has to be mentioned that the lightening of pictures and the angle can make the same person appear much
darker or lighter than he realy is.

In daylight fotos with sunlight as the case with the Greek sportsmen and soldiers you posted people appear alot lighter than in Nightclub photos
Sikeliot posts

So far at least 3 users with independent points of view Hellenas,Me and Sikeliot have classified him as an european type

Me:As Med
Hellenas:Alpine-Aegean Med
Sikeliot:Guessed him as Iberian looking

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3qJRwc4EKwk/VyIhl3jP0AI/AAAAAAAADnM/3C1K_vvpUSMM2nV_v-N1kBhgPtHUUU29QCLcB/s1600/pasas.jpg

Thats your opinion

My opinion is this is common look amongst priests and the like from Anatolia. I would have passed him from Levant.

Aegean Med is more like this

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-fobdJjU47Fc/UuXlYxVrucI/AAAAAAAALUw/FvuNK0CbSI4/h1600/2012062704746_120456834.jpg

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/greeces-michail-sifakis-is-seen-before-a-friendly-football-match-picture-id101551725?s=612x612

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 02:28 AM

Nonsense - but you can't pass the Anatolian as a typical mainland Greek.

You can and they are mainland Greeks for almost 100 years, besides that mainland Greeks have heavily mixed with Anatolian Greeks.

Anatolian Greeks look just like southern and islander Greeks to me.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?218633-Anatolian-Greeks(many-photos)-where-they-pass

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 02:29 AM

I thought you said somewhere you are light brown haired or something like that. There are not Anatolians in Greece stupid Slavoman, there are only Anatolian GREEKS and GREEKS with partly Anatolian GREEK ancestry. :D

There are out-european types to all Greeks groups but to claim Anatolian Greeks are Anatolians and not Greeks is hilarious Slavo-Vlach ridiculousness! You still sound like the banned troll Lavrentis!

This have been discussed to an other thread in depth, bringing that again and again here show your Slavo-Vlach complexes.

It becomes more and more boring. :bored:

Only because some Greeks in Anatolia mixed occasionaly with native Armenoid types.

There are alos Vlachs who mixed with Gypsies/Roma people i know this from first hand

I love the logic some people have cooncerning these issues :1127:

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 02:30 AM

I feel like you have some sort of deep down intent to find the lightest Sicilians you can to try to disprove the notion of any northern input in Greece -- as if saying "if light types even appear in Sicily with them only having 10-12% North Euro, Greeks having light types has nothing to do with Slavic or other northern input" even though it is not just coloring but features that are what I am speaking of.

No i don't thats your prejudiced misconception..

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 02:31 AM

No i don't thats your prejudiced misconception..

Then what are you trying to say?

nightrider+

09-29-2017, 02:31 AM

If it makes Greeks feel better they are the only Europeans of their latitude without North African ancestry.. [emoji38]Judging from the guy in op, it somehow still got here.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 02:31 AM

Only because some Greeks in Anatolia mixed occasionaly with native Armenoid types.

There are alos Vlachs who mixed with Gypsies/Roma people i know this from first hand

I love the logic some people have cooncerning these issues :1127:

Sorry - but Anatolians have foreign features to mainlanders. We saw Anatolians as foreigners. Not so much now due to intermarriages. But we still viewed them as different people. This is an undeniable fact.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 02:34 AM

+ There where immigrations of Greeks from Anatolia to the Mainland before 1922
In Byzantine times e.c.t

How stupid is it to think that the first time Greeks from Anatolia came to the Mainland in 1922?
And never before.:1127:

Byzantines sent Anatolian Greeks in Peloponnesus after the extermination of Slavs there.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 02:36 AM

Then what are you trying to say?

If you realy interested to undestand me i can PM you another day and tell you.

Not in this thread
Are you ok with that?

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 02:37 AM

Judging from the guy in op, it somehow still got here.

Such types might exist in North Africa but there is historic and prehistoric Iberian admixture there so that is why.

nightrider+

09-29-2017, 02:39 AM

Such types might exist in North Africa but there is historic and prehistoric Iberian admixture there so that is why.It's the other way around most likely. Any Iberian that looks like this is like 5% SSA.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 02:40 AM

Sorry - but Anatolians have foreign features to mainlanders. We saw Anatolians as foreigners. Not so much now due to intermarriages. But we still viewed them as different people. This is an undeniable fact.

The only foreigners are Slavo-Vlachs of Macedonia, you can only dream to be so pure Greeks as Anatolian Greeks are BulgaroSlavo man.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 02:41 AM

Byzantines sent Anatolian Greeks in Peloponnesus after the extermination of Slavs there.

Only one incidence in history among many others

I know alot of Greek people with no recent Anatolian ancestry both Mainlanders and Islanders who told me that their families came originaly from Anatolia Constantinople,Smyrna,even Pontus Trapezounta

You can find evidence for these facts also in surnames,toponyms and other things

Also,not all Greek people from the Mainland are Vlachs or Arvanites

Vlachs,Arvanites are only two particular distinct subgroups of Mainland Greek people among others

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 02:42 AM

The only foreigners are Slavo-Vlachs of Macedonia, you can only dream to be so pure Greeks as Anatolian Greeks are BulgaroSlavo man.

I can post some of the stories from Athens on the Anatolians if you want a laugh Arab.

Laberia

09-29-2017, 02:46 AM

I can post some of the stories from Athens on the Anatolians if you want a laugh Arab.

Laugh? Yoruk, hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhaaa

Mortimer

09-29-2017, 02:47 AM

In third pic he looks Dravidian influenced.

He might be Greek Gypsy.

bulllshit. in third pic he doesnt look dravidian or gypsy but aboriginal australian. australian aboriginal is different than weddoid or dravidian.

this a stereotypical gypsy look
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1d/27/e2/1d27e2e2a7207b96410c84ba7d1d4038--gypsy-people-gypsy-life.jpg
this dude looks nothing gypsy in no picture, but greeks can answer for sure if he is gypsy, if he is he would be very atypical.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 02:48 AM

Laugh? Yoruk, hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhaaa

You need three Laberias one on top of the other so you can see eye to eye with me, shorty.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 02:53 AM

bulllshit. in third pic he doesnt look dravidian or gypsy but aboriginal australian. australian aboriginal is different than weddoid or dravidian.

Neither he is a Med type from Greece

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 02:54 AM

I can post some of the stories from Athens on the Anatolians if you want a laugh Arab.

Partly Anatolian Greeks now became "Arabs"! :lol00002:

Go back in Bulgaria where you belong Slav-bastard before we throw your Slavo-Vlach kind in Scopia where they belong.

Even Dienekes Pontikos who is a Thracian-Pontian had told me "Macedonia is full of Slavs" while for Anatolian Greeks had said "They are Greeks". Besides that he considered purer the southern Greeks.

The last people who can claim pure Greek ancestry are Macedonians and your face. Lol!

Mortimer

09-29-2017, 02:55 AM

Neither he is a Med type from Greece

ok. yeah he looks greek, he doesnt look gypsy.

Laberia

09-29-2017, 02:59 AM

You need three Laberias one on top of the other so you can see eye to eye with me, shorty.

Go back in Bulgaria where you belong Slav-bastard before we throw your Slavo-Vlach kind in Scopia where they belong.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 03:02 AM

According to Anatolians these are Balkan Slavs

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/eb/3c/bf/eb3cbfdfd8262160fa4df6a542edea0a.png

https://cdn.thinglink.me/api/image/753680566309617665/1240/10/scaletowidth

https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/alexander-the-great-3.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Ares_Borghese_Louvre_Ma_866_n03.jpg/400px-Ares_Borghese_Louvre_Ma_866_n03.jpg

https://cdn.thinglink.me/api/image/522564968227274753/1240/10/scaletowidth

https://images.8tracks.com/cover/i/010/329/187/900-137940570-aphrodite-goddess-3784.jpg?rect=7,0,886,886&q=98&fm=jpg&fit=max

https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-statue-of-hercules-61528642.jpg

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 03:03 AM

Go back in Bulgaria where you belong Slav-bastard before we throw your Slavo-Vlach kind in Scopia where they belong.

You have tried that plenty of times but all we found from your ilk is stealing chickens from villagers or being gangfucked by Turks.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 03:05 AM

ok. yeah he looks greek, he doesnt look gypsy.

+10 confirmed by a real person of gypsy background who has to know better than anyone else

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 03:05 AM

Partly Anatolian Greeks now became "Arabs"! :lol00002:

Go back in Bulgaria where you belong Slav-bastard before we throw your Slavo-Vlach kind in Scopia where they belong.

Even Dienekes Pontikos who is a Thracian-Pontian had told me "Macedonia is full of Slavs" while for Anatolian Greeks had said "They are Greeks". Besides that he considered purer the southern Greeks.

The last people who can claim pure Greek ancestry are Macedonians and your face. Lol!

On 23andme East Greeks have at least 25% MENA.

MENAS are Greek subjects - never forget it.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 03:08 AM

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 03:11 AM

Certainly not they are Mediteraneans

Atlanto-Med,Alpine-Med,Med

Not one of them has a pignose you find with Anatolians so according to Hellenas - Anatolians with pignoses are the purest Greeks so this makes mainland Greeks without a pignose Balkan Slav

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 03:12 AM

Manuel

09-29-2017, 03:13 AM

Not one of them has a pignose you find with Anatolians so according to Hellenas - Anatolians with pignoses are the purest Greeks so this makes mainland Greeks without a pignose Balkan Slav

Forgive me, I'm not well versed in "anthropology" slurs but what is a pignose?

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 03:20 AM

Balkan Slavic? Those you posted are only "Slavic" in your dreams!

They look nothing like Sicilians let alone Levantines so yes, they indeed look closer to Balkan Slavs.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 03:23 AM

Forgive me, I'm not well versed in "anthropology" slurs but what is a pignose?

The ancient Greek according to Hellenas and cybernautic dumb and dumber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHG2ds_Sbmo

NSXD60

09-29-2017, 03:24 AM

Socra-teased
https://thumbs.imgbox.com/7a/67/YMay81bb_t.jpg (http://imgbox.com/YMay81bb)

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 03:25 AM

On 23andme East Greeks have at least 25% MENA.

MENAS are Greek subjects - never forget it.

Dream on hilarious liar.

Genetics

According to the genetic site eupedia.com:

Northern Greeks(Thrace & Macedonia) : 93,7 % European
Central Greeks(Epirus & Thessaly) : 92,2 % European
Southern Greeks(Sterea Hellas & Peloponnese) : 93,9 % European
Eastern Greeks(Aegean islands & Ionia) : 91,7% European
Cretan Greeks(Crete) : 91,1 % European
All Greeks : 93,4 % European

Eastern Greeks (Aegean islands & Ionia) (158 samples)

I included Ionian GREEKS with the rest of Greeks

Their Y-DNA allmost perfectly resembles that of Aegean Greeks with whom I have classified them under Eastern Greeks (GREEKS not Greece). It also resembles average or mainstream Greek Y-DNA.

in fact Ionian Greeks and those from the Aegean islands might be the purest of Greeks since Ionians definetely didn't mix with Turks (no Central or East Asian haplogroups detected) and Albanian or Slavic influence in Ionia is zero...allthough some native Anatolian ancestry can't be ruled out.

Finally Ionian and other Anatolian Greeks are currently living in Greece and constitute a large section of the population...

As I explained Ionians seem very mainstream Greeks like those from the Aegean...

Their ancestors who lived under Ottoman Empire had a native Greek language, were Christian Orthodox and allways thought of themselves as Greeks (which is now proven by genetics).

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/printthread.php?t=26644&pp=25&page=1

What Sikeliot posted:

You realize that only Pontians differ from the Greek mainstream genetically and that other "Anatolian" Greeks were genetically just like the natives, no?

Anyway, you didn't read the chart.

Anatolian Greeks are close genetically to: 1)Aegean islanders, 2)south Italians, 3)mainland Greeks and 4)Balkanians according to the samples Sikeliot posted. They are not close with Turks or Armenians. Also they don't have any Central/East Asian admixture so they are not mixed with Turks at all.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 03:30 AM

I can post some of the stories from Athens on the Anatolians if you want a laugh Arab.

Ο Γεώργιος Μπαμπινιώτης, καθηγητής Γλωσσολογίας στο Πανεπιστήμιο Αθηνών, επιμελήθηκε την έκδοση ενός λεξικού το 1998 με τον τίτλο Λεξικό της Νέας Ελληνικής Γλώσσας[1], γνωστού και ως "λεξικού Μπαμπινιώτη". Το λεξικό εξέδωσε το "Κέντρο Λεξικολογίας".

Το λεξικό στο λήμμα "Βούλγαρος" έδινε τον ορισμό:

1) Aυτός που γεννήθηκε στη Βουλγαρία ή κατάγεται από εκεί,

2)(καταχρ. - υβριστ.) ο οπαδός ή παίκτης ομάδας της Θεσσαλονίκης (κυρ. του ΠΑΟΚ).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/el/1/1e/1986-87Note.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DLpa2Z4NqsE/TnRgDOCyOuI/AAAAAAAAfg4/u_27PyHmnQo/s1600/temp2.JPG

PAOK FANS, LOL!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sQzqt9A80Yo/UxTK-zN_qgI/AAAAAAAACNA/cUCApFVDeok/s1600/972368_189040184611137_1675514605_n.jpg

http://infowar-paok.blogspot.gr/2014/03/blog-post_2710.html

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 03:37 AM

Not one of them has a pignose you find with Anatolians so according to Hellenas - Anatolians with pignoses are the purest Greeks so this makes mainland Greeks without a pignose Balkan Slav

The ancient Greek according to Hellenas and cybernautic dumb and dumber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHG2ds_Sbmo

:wtf::crazy:

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 03:45 AM

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 03:54 AM

Ok but you have to be referring to Laconian Maniots.

In greater detail what I meant was Maniots and then anyone south of them (islanders for instance) have appearances totally consistent with Southern Europe and in some cases minor Near Eastern affinity (which for instance is also shared with Sicily) whereas people in places like Epirus, Macedonia and Thessaly do not.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 03:59 AM

Forgive me, I'm not well versed in "anthropology" slurs but what is a pignose?

He probably mean this Bulgaro-Slav type from his area.

https://i.imgur.com/f1Ia30X.jpg?1

http://www.iefimerida.gr/news/319137/pano-apo-5000-agrotes-mprosta-apo-ti-voyli-oloklirothike-i-poreia-eikones

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 04:00 AM

He probably mean this Bulagro-Slav type from his area.

https://i.imgur.com/f1Ia30X.jpg?1

http://www.iefimerida.gr/news/319137/pano-apo-5000-agrotes-mprosta-apo-ti-voyli-oloklirothike-i-poreia-eikones

We have straight noses and bloodlined from Hercules and Ares :laugh:

Laberia

09-29-2017, 04:01 AM

You have tried that plenty of times but all we found from your ilk is stealing chickens from villagers or being gangfucked by Turks.
Yoruk.

Mortimer

09-29-2017, 04:02 AM

Now someone makes me a gyro.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 04:13 AM

Anatolians have low IQ and struggle to understand

Greek mainlander

http://www.epo.gr/media/STOCK_PHOTOS/ETHNIKI_ANDRON/OMADA/NIKE/Papastathopoulos.jpg

Anatolian

http://futhead.cursecdn.com/static/img/14/players/178115.png

I don't even know if this man is full, partly or not Anatolian Greek at all but is very clear what you claim here... swarthiness.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/20130814_AT-GR_Lazaros_Christodoulopoulos_2368.jpg/1200px-20130814_AT-GR_Lazaros_Christodoulopoulos_2368.jpg

http://www.onsports.gr/media/com_news/story/2017/09/26/578153/snapshot/Lazaros.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/AjZFauT.jpg?1

Not very wise to start trolling here...

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 04:22 AM

I don't even know if this man is full, partly or not Anatolian Greek at all but is very clear what you claim here... swarthiness.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/20130814_AT-GR_Lazaros_Christodoulopoulos_2368.jpg/1200px-20130814_AT-GR_Lazaros_Christodoulopoulos_2368.jpg

http://www.onsports.gr/media/com_news/story/2017/09/26/578153/snapshot/Lazaros.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/AjZFauT.jpg?1

Not very wise to start trolling here...

He is Anatolian with Caucasian & Armenoid influences.

He will be seen as foreign by North Greeks

https://yooniqimages.blob.core.windows.net/yooniqimages-data-storage-resizedimagefilerepository/Detail/10217/a7dc7e61-6893-4346-aac1-6be7820feee4/YooniqImages_102176632.jpg

Mortimer

09-29-2017, 04:35 AM

He is Anatolian with Caucasian & Armenoid influences.

He will be seen as foreign by North Greeks

https://yooniqimages.blob.core.windows.net/yooniqimages-data-storage-resizedimagefilerepository/Detail/10217/a7dc7e61-6893-4346-aac1-6be7820feee4/YooniqImages_102176632.jpg

bro no offense but if you are the guy on your picture who i think you are, you would be seen as turk or albanian here in austria. you are "dark" and "hairy". some of your relatives were really light but you are not.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 04:35 AM

He is Anatolian with Caucasian & Armenoid influences.

He will be seen as foreign by North Greeks

https://yooniqimages.blob.core.windows.net/yooniqimages-data-storage-resizedimagefilerepository/Detail/10217/a7dc7e61-6893-4346-aac1-6be7820feee4/YooniqImages_102176632.jpg

Nice trolling, you forgot to say he has Chechen and Paki features.

Don't worry, I am sure Anatolian Greeks see as foreigner BalcanoVlachs your Northern Greeks too.

Also nice photo of goat vlach matsedonians.

Give them a sheep and they are just fine.

https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/a5/a5d3bad9f43cee9a2668a853daf46697db8e2f50_full.jpg

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 04:37 AM

Nice trolling, you forgot to say he has Chechen and Paki features.

Also nice photo of goat vlach matsedonians.

Give them a sheep and they are just fine.

https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/a5/a5d3bad9f43cee9a2668a853daf46697db8e2f50_full.jpg

Anatolians are foreigners to mainland Greece - nothing more to be said and you should show some respect to the mainlanders instead of attempting to Anatolianize them.

DarknessWin

09-29-2017, 04:58 AM

His name is Thanasis Passas. In my opinion he is very Greek looking.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3qJRwc4EKwk/VyIhl3jP0AI/AAAAAAAADnM/3C1K_vvpUSMM2nV_v-N1kBhgPtHUUU29QCLcB/s1600/pasas.jpg
http://i-cdn.ant1.gr/df62586a-5324-4cb6-bf3d-a56900e28f75/Ola_ThanasisPassas.jpg?w=1180&h=564&mode=crop&scale=both&anchor=topcenter&quality=91&storage=cloud
http://rise.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/15776315_10154980884749430_1249890890_o-600x553.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CSjb-gK4nVo/hqdefault.jpg
https://i3.ytimg.com/vi/Nau7SWNP55c/mqdefault.jpg

Greek looking???? Is this a joke???
He is totally levant type , dont pass in Greece and even many people here ask if he is greek or not

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 05:01 AM

Anatolians are foreigners to mainland Greece -

I agree, almost foreigners to your balkanian goatvlachs but not to islander and southern Greeks, with whom they are closer genetically, as well as south Italians.

nothing more to be said and you should show some respect to the mainlanders instead of attempting to Anatolianize them.

I don't try to anatolize anyone, the real Anatolian Greeks have mixed mostly with Athenians and Central Greeks(Sterea), your "Anatolian Greeks" are East Thracians and Pontians, not really Anatolian Greeks, what we call Mikrasiates and if you don't like statistics, you can go commit a suicide as well.

The last people I consider real Greeks are your northern goatvlachs. If you don't look southern Greek, islander or southern Italian you are far away to be considered a real Greek by us. And you are not in place to say BS about southern Anatolian Greeks, if you goatvlachs come in Athens and start talking these nonsense in cities inhabited by Anatolian Greeks you will be smashed down. Try it with Nikaia, Neapoli etc. You will end up in the hospital.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj64EUzxRCU

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 05:03 AM

The last people I consider real Greeks are your northern goatvlachs. If you don't look southern Greek, islander or southern Italian you are far away to be considered a real Greek by us. And you are not in place to say BS about southern Anatolian Greeks, if you goatvlachs come in Athens and start talking these nonsense in cities inhabited by Anatolian Greeks you will be smashed down.

With the exception of some Maniots, not even southern Greeks as a whole look like Sicilians or Aegean islanders... sorry. Those 10% extra northern genes show.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 05:04 AM

They look nothing like Sicilians let alone Levantines so yes, they indeed look closer to Balkan Slavs.

To say someone looks Balkan Slavic because he doesn't look Sicilian or Levantine is almost nonesense.

Then alot of Turks,Chechens and even Gypsies would look Balkan Slavic and whoever else.

As for Europeans
Certainly Swedes and Norwegians look fully European but alos very different from typical Sicilian or Levantine
Do they look Balkan-Slavic because of that?

Decius

09-29-2017, 05:06 AM

East Med

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 05:08 AM

To say someone looks Balkan Slavic because he doesn't look Sicilian or Levantine is almost nonesense.

Then alot of Turks,Chechens and even Gypsies would look Balkan Slavic and whoever else.

As for Europeans
Certainly Swedes and Norwegians look fully European but alos very different from typical Sicilian or Levantine
Do they look Balkan-Slavic because of that?

No, the difference is Greeks look different from Sicilians because of their Balkan influence (even next to the least exotic Sicilians, and the lightest Sicilians look Italo-Celtic, not Slavic) and nothing like typical Levantines.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 05:09 AM

I agree, almost foreigners to your balkanian goatvlachs but not to islander and southern Greeks, with whom they are closer genetically, as well as south Italians.

I don't try to anatolize anyone, the real Anatolian Greeks have mixed mostly with Athenians and Central Greeks(Sterea), your "Anatolian Greeks" are East Thracians and Pontians, not really Anatolian Greeks, what we call Mikrasiates and if you don't like statistics, you can go commit a suicide as well.

The last people I consider real Greeks are your northern goatvlachs. If you don't look southern Greek, islander or southern Italian you are far away to be considered a real Greek by us. And you are not in place to say BS about southern Anatolian Greeks, if you goatvlachs come in Athens and start talking these nonsense in cities inhabited by Anatolian Greeks you will be smashed down. Try it with Nikaia, Neapoli etc. You will end up in the hospital.

My fathers balls came from Europe not from Asia nor Africa nor Levantine nor Arabia but Europa.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 05:13 AM

..and BTW hahaha at Hellenas... Οι Μικρασιατες ειναι τουρκοι που νομιζουν οτι ειναι Ιταλοι (Love from Athens)

Sikeliot

09-29-2017, 05:14 AM

This is the way Greece works for those of you who do not understand its genetics, including you Hellenas...

Excluding Pontics...

Epirus, Macedonia, Thessaly, Thrace: like Bulgarians with less Slavic and more Mediterranean
Attica and Peloponnese: Like an "eastern" version of Tuscany (i.e. more NE European, less NW European)
North Aegean and Cyclades: Intermediate between Peloponnese and Crete
Crete and Dodecanese: Like Sicily or Calabria, but without North African

Queen B

09-29-2017, 05:25 AM

Save his beard, cut his hair, and then make the question again.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 05:33 AM

With the exception of some Maniots, not even southern Greeks as a whole look like Sicilians or Aegean islanders... sorry. Those 10% extra northern genes show.

You have no idea about south Greeks. You have never visited Greece and most probably not even Italy. You just read some genetics.

"Those 10% extra northern genes show"

You forgot to say that 10% can effect the phenotype of very few here and also that southern and central Greeks have 10% R1a while south Italy 4%, there is not much difference, 6% only.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Southern Italians feel like in home here and so south Greeks in south Italy.

sorry

Why you ask sorry, you are neither south Italian nor represent any south Italian. Speak about Americans like you who are of every ethnic origin.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 05:39 AM

..and BTW hahaha at Hellenas... Οι Μικρασιατες ειναι τουρκοι που νομιζουν οτι ειναι Ιταλοι (Love from Athens)

Μίλησαν και οι Μακεδόνες που είναι ΤουρκοΒουλγάρια και νομίζουν ότι είναι Έλληνες οι γυφτοβαλκάνιοι. Ελπίζω να σας αφομοιώσουν όλους οι ΤουρκοΒούλγαροι και οι Γυφτοσκοπιανοί τα αδέρφια σας.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 05:43 AM

My fathers balls came from Europe not from Asia nor Africa nor Levantine nor Arabia but Europa.

Greek Asia Minor was Greece and once your Macedonia was Turkey For 400 Years! The Ottoman mongrelodonia! http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif

http://i.imgur.com/a2afd8v.jpg

Εκεί ανήκεις και εσύ και οι όμοιοί σου, στους Σλάβους, στους γυφτοσκοπιανούς και λοιπούς Τουρκοβούλγαρους.

Δεν σέβεστε κανένα, ούτε καν τους Μικρασιάτες που έχουν υποφέρει.

Και δεν είμαι Μικρασιάτης βρε πανίβλακα, πόσες φορές θα το πούμε, δεν το καταλαβαίνει η βλάχικη κεφάλα σου, σαν τον Αλβανό Lavrenti είσαι και εσύ; Απλώς ένα Μικρασιάτη πρόγονο έχω. Σε όσους συγγενείς μου από Πελοπόννησο και φίλους από Αθήνα έχω αναφέρει τι λέτε οι Μακεδόνες και οι Βόρειοι Έλληνες εδώ μου είπαν ότι ή Σκοπιανοί είστε ή Αλβανοί, αλλά εγώ ξέρω τι είστε, απλώς μαλάκες! :laugh:

Τέλος πάντων, με κάνατε και σιχάθηκα την Μακεδονία.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 05:54 AM

You have no idea about south Greeks. You have never visited Greece and most probably not even Italy. You just read some genetics.

You forgot to say that 10% can effect the phenotype of very few here and also that southern and central Greeks have 10% R1a while south Italy 4%, there is not much difference, 6% only.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Southern Italians feel like in home here and so south Greeks in south Italy.

Why you ask sorry, you are neither south Italian nor represent any south Italian. Speak about American like you who are of every ethnic origin.

@Hellenas
Some light types from Sicily
What is your opinion?

Alpine-Meds,Dinaro-Meds are types common to both Greece and Italy

Atlanto-Meds exist in both Italy and Greece,perhabs more common to Italy

Some cherrypicking form another angle here are some blond Sicilians form West"Messina" and Inland"Caltinisetta"

https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10658553_851160918252034_990017403287640044_o.jpg? oh=c38bf339fd317769b40fca371c4bc24a&oe=5A4092BF
https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10514353_855706081130851_898649786654752881_o.jpg? oh=493323994b7ae93ad58167ef07914c66&oe=5A5CF669https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/1956782_851167564918036_7680441875305742982_o.jpg? oh=ddb3b0df9ababbfaea31f51a71c1e741&oe=5A88A9C8 https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/315970_256666677702076_2051231771_n.jpg?oh=d04efd0 5a23202c30c20bddd3ea18164&oe=5A5020ADhttps://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/431521_345539138814829_1563907456_n.jpg?oh=e3ee76c 4eafc0228997a4abac25815a2&oe=5A4DEE6Bhttps://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/424128_345538625481547_188683330_n.jpg?oh=9fbeab26 fbb1728f063f1dee24ed0335&oe=5A4822FC

Each photo includes at least one blond or light person
First:The last girl from left to right
Second:First guy from left to right
Third:Both guys
Fourth:The guy predominantly,the girl also not to mention she would pass in the Balkans without problems
Fifth:The guy
Sixth:The girl

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 06:30 AM

@Hellenas
Some light types from Sicily
What is your opinion?

https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10658553_851160918252034_990017403287640044_o.jpg? oh=c38bf339fd317769b40fca371c4bc24a&oe=5A4092BF

Last is Baltic.

https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/424128_345538625481547_188683330_n.jpg?oh=9fbeab26 fbb1728f063f1dee24ed0335&oe=5A4822FC

This is Baltic influenced.

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 06:32 AM

@Hellenas

Also,these two wouldn't have problems passing in Bulgaria,Serbia even not in Russia
https://scontent.fnyc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/315970_256666677702076_2051231771_n.jpg?oh=d04efd0 5a23202c30c20bddd3ea18164&oe=5A5020AD

Do you agree?

nightrider+

09-29-2017, 06:36 AM

Τέλος πάντων, με κάνατε και σιχάθηκα την Μακεδονία.

Σαν ξενο στοιχειο που εισαι, ειναι απολυτως λογικο να σιχαινεσαι οχι μονο τη Μακεδονια αλλα και ολοκληρη τη χωρα. Μην κατηγορεις τον εαυτο σου, ειναι σκληρη η ξενιτια...

Tauromachos

09-29-2017, 06:40 AM

Σαν ξενο στοιχειο που εισαι, ειναι απολυτως λογικο να σιχαινεσαι οχι μονο τη Μακεδονια αλλα και ολοκληρη τη χωρα. Μην κατηγορεις τον εαυτο σου, ειναι σκληρη η ξενιτια...

Ενταξη φιλε εισι το εχεις παρακανη τη εισαι ο δευτερος Λαβρεντης?

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 11:31 AM

Σαν ξενο στοιχειο που εισαι, ειναι απολυτως λογικο να σιχαινεσαι οχι μονο τη Μακεδονια αλλα και ολοκληρη τη χωρα. Μην κατηγορεις τον εαυτο σου, ειναι σκληρη η ξενιτια...

Αφού είναι οι Πελοποννήσιοι, οι Κρητικοί και οι Έλληνες Δυτικομικρασιάτες είναι ξένα στοιχεία για σένα είναι φυσιολογικό να με θεωρείς και εμένα ξένο στοιχείο, όπως και το 60-70% των Ελλήνων. Άντε στείλε κανέναν κυανόφθαλμο ή κανέναν κιτρινοκέφαλο για αρχαίο Έλληνα να γελάσουμε πάλι! Ή πες τους Μικρασιάτες ξένους που θα πας μόνος σου να τους στείλεις πίσω στην Παλαιστίνη να μην μπορούμε να κρατήσουμε την κοιλία μας απ'τα γέλια.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 11:38 AM

Ενταξη φιλε εισι το εχεις παρακανη τη εισαι ο δευτερος Λαβρεντης?

Άστον να τρολάρει, τα παιδία παίζει και τα τρολς τρολάρουν. Μάλλον αυτός αισθάνεται ξένος στην Ελλάδα για να στέλνει όλους τους ξανθούς και τους κυανόφθαλμους για αρχαίους Έλληνες. Αν δεν κάνω λάθος, ο ίδιος είναι μελαχρινός, νομίζω είχα δει την φωτογραφία του και στέλνει συνέχεια ανοιχτόχρωμους Έλληνες ως αντιπροσωπευτικούς των Ελλήνων, οπότε και εδώ με κόμπλεξ φυλετικής κατωτερότητος έχουμε να κάνουμε.

Άστον να νομίζει ότι οι Γερμανοί, οι Σουηδοί και οι Λιθουανοί είναι Έλληνες και οι μελαχρινοί Έλληνες Παλαιστίνιοι.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 12:12 PM

Anatolians are foreigners to mainland Greece - nothing more to be said and you should show some respect to the mainlanders instead of attempting to Anatolianize them.

..and BTW hahaha at Hellenas... Οι Μικρασιατες ειναι τουρκοι που νομιζουν οτι ειναι Ιταλοι (Love from Athens)

You have already said by your self Anatolian Greeks cannot be distinguished by mainland Greeks and that northern Greeks are more mixed than south Greeks. Now you come and say Anatolian Greeks are Turks and gypsies and that northern Greeks are straight descendants of Ancient Greeks. So what you troll is your own self!

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 12:16 PM

You have already said by your self Anatolian Greeks cannot be distinguished by mainland Greeks and that northern Greeks are more mixed than south Greeks. Now you come and say Anatolian Greeks are Turks and gypsies and that northern Greeks are straight descendants of Ancient Greeks. So what you troll is your own self!

Northern Greeks are now mixed yes with Anadolids

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 12:32 PM

Northern Greeks are now mixed yes with Anadolids

I just searched some of your quotes.

Eastern Greeks have always been and always will be bros

Pontic Greeks have more Caucasian features. Ionians are merely West coast Anatolians. You can not separate them from mainlanders when walking down the streets. I know because I grew up in Thessaloniki.

Pure Anatolian Greeks are no more than 10% of the country I estimate. Four generations has passed since refugees came over and Greece today is heavily Ionian as a result. Not a bad thing could have been alot worse.

I'd say majority have inter married by now. Indigenous Greeks in the area do not feel racially different to the Anatolian Greeks. The swarthiness of Anatolian Greeks in comparison to North Greeks is overdone and exaggerated if you look at it logically people need to travel through the area - I see them as Ionian Greeks and part of the proto Greek race. They look slightly different but not indifferent to say Bavarians and North Germans.

Are you insane or you just trolling? :confused:

Northern Greeks have mixed more with Slavs and Balkanians, deal with that and get over it. Don't be buttheart.

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 12:35 PM

I just searched some of your quotes.

I'd say majority have inter married by now. Indigenous Greeks in the area do not feel racially different to the Anatolian Greeks. I see them as Ionian Greeks and part of the proto Greek race.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-187446.html

Are you insane or you just trolling? :confused:

I don't like the Anatolization of Native Greeks. You people don't seem to have any respect for it. You are too common taking Anadolids and presenting them as "Ancient Native Greek". This is a misrepresentation.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 12:42 PM

I don't like the Anatolization of Native Greeks. You people don't seem to have any respect for it. You are too common taking Anadolids and presenting them as "Ancient Native Greek". This is a misrepresentation.

You keep trolling, in fact your own self. I'm boring to follow you in that.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 12:45 PM

catgeorge

09-29-2017, 12:51 PM

You keep trolling, in fact your own self. I'm boring to follow you in that.

North Greeks have been at war longer than anyone on this planet past 200 years. It was in continuos war with Turks and Slavs for 100 years 1821-1913...when it eventually got liberated and freed from war it got invaded again in 1922..How do you want us to feel subconsciously? We were a little tired of this cultural and race war to get invaded again by foreigners.

No one on this planet had to war for 100 years straight. What did Anatolians do to fight Turks - any record of guerilla wars against Turks or where you just visiting their harems with your Fez hats then begging mainlanders to fight your wars?

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 12:54 PM

North Greeks have been at war longer than anyone on this planet past 200 years. It was in continuos war with Turks and Slavs for 100 years 1821-1913...when it eventually got liberated and freed from war it got invaded again in 1922..How do you want us to feel subconsciously? We were a little tired of this cultural and race war to get invaded again by foreigners.

No one on this planet had to war for 100 years straight. What did Anatolians do to fight Turks - any record of guerilla wars against Turks or where you just visiting their harems with your Fez hats then begging mainlanders to fight your wars?

Complete nonsese. No need to answer anything of these.

Bye bye troll, I have other things to do. :wave:

nightrider+

09-29-2017, 02:00 PM

Αφού είναι οι Πελοποννήσιοι, οι Κρητικοί και οι Έλληνες Δυτικομικρασιάτες είναι ξένα στοιχεία για σένα είναι φυσιολογικό να με θεωρείς και εμένα ξένο στοιχείο, όπως και το 60-70% των Ελλήνων. Άντε στείλε κανέναν κυανόφθαλμο ή κανέναν κιτρινοκέφαλο για αρχαίο Έλληνα να γελάσουμε πάλι! Ή πες τους Μικρασιάτες ξένους που θα πας μόνος σου να τους στείλεις πίσω στην Παλαιστίνη να μην μπορούμε να κρατήσουμε την κοιλία μας απ'τα γέλια.

Για εσένα αποκλειστικά μιλάω. Μην μπλέκεις τους υπόλοιπους. Είσαι 100% ξένο στοιχείο.

Hellenas

09-29-2017, 05:38 PM

Για εσένα αποκλειστικά μιλάω. Μην μπλέκεις τους υπόλοιπους. Είσαι 100% ξένο στοιχείο.

Βρε το κατάλαβα ότι εμένα τρολάρεις, γιατί αυτό το thread το παρακολουθούν άλλοι 4 Έλληνες με εν μέρη Μικρασιάτικη καταγωγή, ο cybernautic, o Freeroostah, o nafz και ο Danaan.

Δεν μπα να μιλάς για ότι θέλεις, για την μούρη σου να μας πεις τι είναι κομπλεξικέ γύφτο που με τόσους τσιγγάνους που στέλνεις(Τερλέγκα κτλ) και το κόμπλεξ που έχεις με τους ξανθούς/γαλαζομάτηδες σίγουρα έχεις τσιγγάνικη καταγωγή και πας να την καλύψεις στέλνοντας ξανθούς και βάζοντας για avatar ξανθούς με τους οποίους δεν έχεις καμία σχέση. Ούτε καν που μπορείς να αγγίξεις την Ελληνικότητα των Μικρασιάτων, πόσο μάλλον την δική μου Πελοποννήσια/Κρητική/Δυτικομικρασιτική καταγωγή, τρολίδιο.

Άντε να ακούσεις κανέναν Τερλέγκα τώρα γυφτουλάκο.

nightrider+

09-30-2017, 12:52 PM

Βρε το κατάλαβα ότι εμένα τρολάρεις, γιατί αυτό το thread το παρακολουθούν άλλοι 4 Έλληνες με εν μέρη Μικρασιάτικη καταγωγή, ο cybernautic, o Freeroostah, o nafz και ο Danaan.

Δεν μπα να μιλάς για ότι θέλεις, για την μούρη σου να μας πεις τι είναι κομπλεξικέ γύφτο που με τόσους τσιγγάνους που στέλνεις(Τερλέγκα κτλ) και το κόμπλεξ που έχεις με τους ξανθούς/γαλαζομάτηδες σίγουρα έχεις τσιγγάνικη καταγωγή και πας να την καλύψεις στέλνοντας ξανθούς και βάζοντας για avatar ξανθούς με τους οποίους δεν έχεις καμία σχέση. Ούτε καν που μπορείς να αγγίξεις την Ελληνικότητα των Μικρασιάτων, πόσο μάλλον την δική μου Πελοποννήσια/Κρητική/Δυτικομικρασιτική καταγωγή, τρολίδιο.

Άντε να ακούσεις κανέναν Τερλέγκα τώρα γυφτουλάκο.

Ό,τι να 'ναι. Το παραλήρημα του καθυστερημένου.