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Leto
09-28-2017, 08:29 PM
I know most people here can run GEDmatch kit numbers themselves, so I'll just leave them here.

M429233
M534861
M256014
M703615
M050801
M979898
M266212
M616718
M235380
M772732

http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/13687143_1783690395180812_1358538210_n.jpg?ig_cach e_key=MTMzMjMxMjE3ODc5NTM3MzU3OA%3D%3D.2
http://i0.wp.com/hitchhikershandbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/karakalpakstan-map.jpg?resize=376%2C238

Hudayar
10-01-2017, 02:02 AM
Most of them are close to Kazakhs than to Uzbeks. Interesting, are they a Kipchak people?

Leto
10-02-2017, 07:31 PM
Interesting, are they a Kipchak people?
Yes.

Karakalpak is a member of the Kypchak branch of Turkic languages, which includes Tatar, Kumyk, Nogai, and Kazakh. Due to its proximity to Uzbek, much of Karakalpak's vocabulary and grammar has been influenced by Uzbek. Like Turkish, Karakalpak has vowel harmony, is agglutinative and has no grammatical gender. Word order is usually subject–object–verb.

Hudayar
10-02-2017, 07:36 PM
Yes.

Oh i see. Thank you. Explains why they're so close to Kazakhs and "Kazahs (wtf)"

Fiko0
05-25-2019, 01:46 AM
I know most people here can run GEDmatch kit numbers themselves, so I'll just leave them here.

M429233
M534861
M256014
M703615
M050801
M979898
M266212
M616718
M235380
M772732

http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/13687143_1783690395180812_1358538210_n.jpg?ig_cach e_key=MTMzMjMxMjE3ODc5NTM3MzU3OA%3D%3D.2
http://i0.wp.com/hitchhikershandbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/karakalpakstan-map.jpg?resize=376%2C238

I share a segment with this kit.

Do you have more Kipchak kits around?

Cumansky
05-25-2019, 02:40 AM
I share a segment with this kit.

Do you have more Kipchak kits around?

Do you match all?

Cumansky
05-25-2019, 03:15 AM
Comparing Kit (Enrico Thracian) [Ancestry] and M534861 (KKA051_karakalpak) [Migration - V3 - M]

Largest segment = 5.9 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 41.0 cM (1.145 Pct)

16 shared segments found for this comparison.

260641 SNPs used for this comparison.

50.705 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 0.305 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.032 cpu seconds.

Cumansky
05-25-2019, 03:19 AM
Kit M534861

K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 30.5
2 East_Asian 21.17
3 West_Asian 12.97
4 Baltic 11.81
5 North_Atlantic 6.8
6 East_Med 5.79
7 South_Asian 4.3
8 Red_Sea 3.51
9 Amerindian 2.17
10 Oceanian 1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh 7.82
2 Kirgiz 9.98
3 Hazara 13.54
4 Uzbeki 13.58
5 Uygur 13.7
6 Afghan_Turkmen 15.83
7 Aghan_Hazara 16.9
8 Shors 17.22
9 Hakas 17.52
10 Altaian 20.19
11 Mongolian 23.07
12 Nogay 26.77
13 Tuvinian 29.12
14 Buryat 32.4
15 Afghan_Tadjik 33.64
16 Tatar 33.66
17 Turkmen 34.04
18 Mari 35.6
19 Tadjik 36.13
20 Chuvash 36.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.3% Kazakh + 10.7% Saudi @ 3.39
2 89.8% Kazakh + 10.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.48
3 88.5% Kazakh + 11.5% Palestinian @ 3.58
4 88.2% Kazakh + 11.8% Bedouin @ 3.6
5 88.3% Kazakh + 11.7% Jordanian @ 3.67
6 88.5% Kazakh + 11.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.71
7 88.1% Kazakh + 11.9% Syrian @ 3.76
8 88.9% Kazakh + 11.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.79
9 88.7% Kazakh + 11.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.8
10 88.4% Kazakh + 11.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.92
11 89.2% Kazakh + 10.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.97
12 89.2% Kazakh + 10.8% Samaritan @ 4
13 88.7% Kazakh + 11.3% Assyrian @ 4.03
14 87.9% Kazakh + 12.1% Iranian @ 4.04
15 89.1% Kazakh + 10.9% Egyptian @ 4.11
16 87% Kazakh + 13% Azeri @ 4.12
17 88.7% Kazakh + 11.3% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.14
18 88.3% Kazakh + 11.7% Kurdish @ 4.32
19 87.1% Kazakh + 12.9% Turkish @ 4.35
20 89.1% Kazakh + 10.9% Cyprian @ 4.43

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kazakh +50% Uzbeki @ 6.326336

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Shors +25% Tu +25% Turkmen @ 5.290569

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Hezhen + Tatar + Turkmen + Tuvinian @ 3.836871
2 Tatar + Turkmen + Tuvinian + Xibo @ 3.929077
3 Altaian + Hezhen + Tatar + Turkmen @ 4.200470
4 Hezhen + Iranian + Mari + Mongolian @ 4.219430
5 Chuvash + Hezhen + Iranian + Tuvinian @ 4.268226
6 Buryat + Chuvash + Hezhen + Iranian @ 4.280474
7 Chuvash + Evenki + Iranian + Yizu @ 4.335703
8 Altaian + Chuvash + Hezhen + Turkmen @ 4.338386
9 Hezhen + Kirgiz + Mari + Turkmen @ 4.346519
10 Azeri + Hezhen + Mari + Mongolian @ 4.389790
11 Altaian + Mari + Turkmen + Xibo @ 4.390428
12 Dolgan + Tatar + Turkmen + Yizu @ 4.395826
13 Chuvash + Evens + Iranian + Yizu @ 4.398339
14 Chuvash + Turkmen + Tuvinian + Xibo @ 4.401120
15 Chuvash + Evenki + Kurdish + Yizu @ 4.402388
16 Chuvash + Iranian + Naxi + Yakut @ 4.404366
17 Iranian + Mari + Tuvinian + Xibo @ 4.404728
18 Buryat + Hezhen + Tatar + Turkmen @ 4.418007
19 Hezhen + Iranian + Mari + Tuvinian @ 4.429937
20 Chuvash + Evenki + Iranian + Naxi @ 4.443839

Fiko0
05-25-2019, 09:58 AM
Comparing Kit (Enrico Thracian) [Ancestry] and M534861 (KKA051_karakalpak) [Migration - V3 - M]

Largest segment = 5.9 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 41.0 cM (1.145 Pct)

16 shared segments found for this comparison.

260641 SNPs used for this comparison.

50.705 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 0.305 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.032 cpu seconds.

Who the heck is Enrico? =D

I only match with this one on nr16: M266212

Largest segment = 10.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 10.0 cM (0.280 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 5.2

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

77099 SNPs used for this comparison.

48.840 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 1.591 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.843 cpu seconds.

I wanted to compare more kits because i try to figure out if we have any Kipchak roots or not.

Cumansky
05-25-2019, 05:14 PM
Who the heck is Enrico? =D

I only match with this one on nr16: M266212

Largest segment = 10.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 10.0 cM (0.280 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 5.2

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

77099 SNPs used for this comparison.

48.840 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 1.591 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.843 cpu seconds.

I wanted to compare more kits because i try to figure out if we have any Kipchak roots or not.

I match with all, Enrico Thracian is my kit.

Fiko0
05-27-2019, 02:06 AM
I match with all, Enrico Thracian is my kit.

Did you set SNP window size threshold and Minimum segment cM size on default?

Leto
07-26-2019, 01:31 PM
Can someone run the Karakalpak average through G25? I'd like to see how much BA Steppe, Mongol and Iran Neo they could be modeled as. Here is the data sheet:
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/02/unleash-power-global-25-test-drive.html

Leto
07-26-2019, 01:40 PM
I know most people here can run GEDmatch kit numbers themselves, so I'll just leave them here.

M429233
M534861
M256014
M703615
M050801
M979898
M266212
M616718
M235380
M772732

http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/13687143_1783690395180812_1358538210_n.jpg?ig_cach e_key=MTMzMjMxMjE3ODc5NTM3MzU3OA%3D%3D.2
http://i0.wp.com/hitchhikershandbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/karakalpakstan-map.jpg?resize=376%2C238
Karakalpak n=10

East_Asian 27.38%
Siberian 22.04%
North_European 16.51%
Caucasus 10.98%
Gedrosia 10.24%
Atlantic_Med 5.09%
Southeast_Asian 3.26%
South_Asian 2.78%
Southwest_Asian 1.55%
East_African 0.1%
Northwest_African 0.08%
Sub_Saharan -

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h7yXUn5ZUNQM34ItjKLHMr-1HovxDPjf16jnJl-0r5Y/edit#gid=0

itilvolga
07-26-2019, 02:07 PM
They belong to Pechenegs as far as i know. I would expect more Baltic admixture tbh.