View Full Version : Cretans: State Main Phenotypes
JMack
10-01-2017, 10:08 PM
I heard this was filmed in Crete and all people here are Cretans.
State main phenotypes and where they pass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXXzH9oo178
Tooting Carmen
10-01-2017, 10:13 PM
East Meds and Pontids mainly. Although you-know-who denies it, I still think that Greeks are darker than people from most regions of Spain and Italy.
Tooting Carmen
10-01-2017, 10:15 PM
What an ugly song btw. It sounds like a strange mix of Reggaeton, Bollywood and Holly Valance's "Kiss Kiss".
Freeroostah
10-01-2017, 10:24 PM
What an ugly song btw. It sounds like a strange mix of Reggaeton, Bollywood and Holly Valance's "Kiss Kiss".
Its a parody song of Tranquila by J-Balvin
Dont take it too serious LMAO :D
Sikeliot
10-01-2017, 10:25 PM
They look like Calabrese and Sicilians to me, for the most part. The main guy looks like the stereotype mafioso look.
Sikeliot
10-01-2017, 10:25 PM
What an ugly song btw. It sounds like a strange mix of Reggaeton, Bollywood and Holly Valance's "Kiss Kiss".
Holly Valance's song was a remake of the same song in Turkish by a Turkish performer, Tarkan.
Tooting Carmen
10-01-2017, 10:28 PM
Imo, best fit to worse would be along the lines of:
Cyprus>South Italy/Malta>Iberia>Turkey/Bulgaria/Albania/Romania>former Yugoslavia/Caucasus>Levant>Central Europe>NE Europe>NW Europe/Iraq/Iran>Scandinavia
Tooting Carmen
10-01-2017, 10:29 PM
Holly Valance's song was a remake of the same song in Turkish by a Turkish performer, Tarkan.
Ah yes, so it is a Turkish-Indian-Puerto Rican mix then. xD
Sikeliot
10-01-2017, 10:29 PM
Imo, best fit to worse would be along the lines of:
Cyprus>South Italy/Malta>Iberia>Turkey/Bulgaria/Albania/Romania>former Yugoslavia/Caucasus>Levant>Central Europe>NE Europe>NW Europe/Iraq/Iran>Scandinavia
I agree with this but I would switch southern Italy and Malta to first, and Cyprus would move down, since I think Cypriots look more Levantine. Though I also think Calabrese and Sicilians look close to Cyprus, so it would probably just be a switching of those two.
I think these people fit better in Cyprus and southern Italy both rather than mainland Greece though.
Tooting Carmen
10-01-2017, 10:32 PM
I agree with this but I would switch southern Italy and Malta to first, and Cyprus would move down, since I think Cypriots look more Levantine. Though I also think Calabrese and Sicilians look close to Cyprus, so it would probably just be a switching of those two.
I think these people fit better in Cyprus and southern Italy both rather than mainland Greece though.
While these Cretans are still clearly distinct from Levantines - hence why I put them in the middle of the list - they fit many times better as Syrians than as Scots.
Sikeliot
10-01-2017, 10:40 PM
While these Cretans are still clearly distinct from Levantines - hence why I put them in the middle of the list - they fit many times better as Syrians than as Scots.
Yes, but I think that they also look more Levantine than mainland Greeks of any kind do, and about the same as far southern Italians.
DarknessWin
10-01-2017, 10:54 PM
East Meds and Pontids mainly. Although you-know-who denies it, I still think that Greeks are darker than people from most regions of Spain and Italy.
Again this shit with east med
East Meds = Pontids
West meds = Atlantomeds
Freeroostah
10-01-2017, 11:10 PM
Men can pass all over Greece, women look little bit more "exotic"
Tauromachos
10-01-2017, 11:12 PM
Aegean Meds
Mostly
DarknessWin
10-01-2017, 11:13 PM
They look like Calabrese and Sicilians to me, for the most part. The main guy looks like the stereotype mafioso look.
Not even close, the only girl in the video that look Levantine its this
https://i.imgur.com/t3skIlt.png
The main girl look like north Greek:
https://i.imgur.com/47UdET3.png
The main characters are Pontid Balkan Med and fit even in Macedonia in my region:
https://i.imgur.com/yG8qMFl.png
Another pure Balkan Pontids:
https://i.imgur.com/nmSxfBz.png
Now back to the Rapper, The "mafioso" as you say are a typical Pontid Balkan Med
https://yt3.ggpht.com/-bLVUu0udYnc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/NM3-UCchK08/s900-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg
http://www.lifo.gr/uploads/image/722083/cullen2.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1657076892/elevator1orton_400x400.jpg
https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_200_200/p/2/005/054/049/327165a.jpg
Not even close to Cyprus
Hudayar
10-01-2017, 11:17 PM
I think untermenschoid because that music sucks
Tauromachos
10-01-2017, 11:18 PM
I think untermenschoid because that music sucks
Troll!
DarknessWin
10-01-2017, 11:18 PM
The main characters and Rapper from another video and photos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2yHN_Z3Qxo
This man are not different than Pontids from North Greece. Its like me
https://i.imgur.com/4ztjUUQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/SgjUWLL.png
https://i.imgur.com/RleY59l.png
The rapper are Cromagnoid Pontid with brown hair and DJ is Norid with Blonde hair
They almost fit 100% at North Greece
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ynXL96sTP4U/maxresdefault.jpg
Tauromachos
10-01-2017, 11:25 PM
The main characters and Rapper from another video and photos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2yHN_Z3Qxo
This man are not different than Pontids from North Greece. Its like me
https://i.imgur.com/4ztjUUQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/SgjUWLL.png
https://i.imgur.com/RleY59l.png
The rapper are Cromagnoid Pontid with brown hair and DJ is Norid with Blonde hair
They almost fit 100% at North Greece
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ynXL96sTP4U/maxresdefault.jpg
Either way they don't look very Levantine
Thats for sure
The rapper can pass in Northern Greece for sure
Don't see any reason why he shouldn't
DarknessWin
10-01-2017, 11:32 PM
Either way they don't look very Levantine
Thats for sure
The rapper can pass in Northern Greece for sure
Don't see any reason why he shouldn't
They are Pontids mostly so they pass perfect as the rest of Greeks.
They dont pass as Sicilians or Cypriots
And they are 100% out of Levant, only 1 girl had phoenician roots and just that
Tauromachos
10-01-2017, 11:38 PM
They are Pontids mostly so they pass perfect as the rest of Greeks.
They dont pass as Sicilians or Cypriots
And they are 100% out of Levant, only 1 girl had phoenician roots and just that
Agreed mostly
They seem Pontid-Med
and are not very dark.
The girls looks more South East wards
but passes in the Southern Greek Islands
DarknessWin
10-01-2017, 11:51 PM
Agreed mostly
They seem Pontid-Med
and are not very dark.
The girls looks more South East wards
but passes in the Southern Greek Islands
Girls are also Pontid in majority,
Cypriot girls are way different
Seth MacFarlane
10-02-2017, 12:12 AM
East med , pontid . Some could fit in Balkans and others west Asia , they lean more towards Sicily and Cyprus .
Guy next to the rapper looks really levantine arab
https://s1.postimg.org/9mgdula0fj/Screenshot_20171001-194202.png
From left to right : looks Kurdish , norid generic white man , rapper looks only Greek , last guy looks egytpian
https://s1.postimg.org/7kdckpmv4v/Screenshot_20171001-194123.png
Looks generic white , mostly from the British isles to Germany/central Europe
https://s1.postimg.org/1qwwv21ye7/Screenshot_20171001-200955.png
That dark guy looks near Eastern and the rest balkan
https://s1.postimg.org/6d5shklmun/Screenshot_20171001-194455.png
She could pass around the middle East and Pakistan/northern india
https://s1.postimg.org/1gybwfe9hb/Screenshot_20171001-194332.png
Sikeliot
10-02-2017, 12:20 AM
The closest foreign relatives of Crete are in fact Sicilians so it should not be a surprise they look similar to them.
DarknessWin
10-02-2017, 12:26 AM
East med , pontid . Some could fit in Balkans and others west Asia , they lean more towards Sicily and Cyprus .
Guy next to the rapper looks really levantine arab
https://s1.postimg.org/9mgdula0fj/Screenshot_20171001-194202.png
From left to right : looks Kurdish , norid generic white man , rapper looks only Greek , last guy looks egytpian
https://s1.postimg.org/7kdckpmv4v/Screenshot_20171001-194123.png
Looks generic white , mostly from the British isles to Germany/central Europe
https://s1.postimg.org/1qwwv21ye7/Screenshot_20171001-200955.png
That dark guy looks near Eastern and the rest balkan
https://s1.postimg.org/6d5shklmun/Screenshot_20171001-194455.png
She could pass around the middle East and Pakistan/northern india
https://s1.postimg.org/1gybwfe9hb/Screenshot_20171001-194332.png
Ok you find out 2 people, The man and the girl.
All the others are Pontids
Also what you mean with "East Med" ???
East med its not exist, its not phenotype
DarknessWin
10-02-2017, 12:27 AM
The closest foreign relatives of Crete are in fact Sicilians so it should not be a surprise they look similar to them.
From the whole video only 2 people look like Sicilians and all the others look North Greek
and pure balkan Pontid Med
Sikeliot
10-02-2017, 12:28 AM
From the whole video only 2 people look like Sicilians and all the others look North Greek
and pure balkan Pontid Med
From what I can see genetically Cretans range from being similar to Peloponnesians all the way to nearly Cypriot like, which is a similar range for Sicily. Most Cretans results on an individual level though do have slightly more North European type DNA than Sicily has.
JMack
10-02-2017, 01:37 AM
From the whole video only 2 people look like Sicilians and all the others look North Greek
and pure balkan Pontid Med
LOL
Sicilians doesn't have an ''exact'' look and like most places they have a range of looks. Most Cretans could pass as Sicilians and vice-versa.
The problem with classification threads here is that most users are biased and know jackshit about classification.
Tauromachos
10-02-2017, 07:31 AM
From what I can see genetically Cretans range from being similar to Peloponnesians all the way to nearly Cypriot like, which is a similar range for Sicily. Most Cretans results on an individual level though do have slightly more North European type DNA than Sicily has.
As i say
Cretans are exactly halfway between Southern Mainland and Cyprus
Hungarian_master
10-02-2017, 09:26 AM
East Med, Berid.
Sicily, Cyprus and Malta.
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-02-2017, 09:39 AM
Bearded Master Race.
averagedude
10-03-2017, 01:14 AM
East Meds and Pontids mainly.
DarknessWin
10-03-2017, 02:03 AM
LOL
Sicilians doesn't have an ''exact'' look and like most places they have a range of looks. Most Cretans could pass as Sicilians and vice-versa.
The problem with classification threads here is that most users are biased and know jackshit about classification.
Cretans have Balkan look while Sicilians have not.
Especially the Singer is pure Balkan Pontid-Alpine with wide head
Of course many of them can pass as sicilians but they pass better as northern Greeks and Bulgarians
DarknessWin
10-03-2017, 02:03 AM
East Med, Berid.
Sicily, Cyprus and Malta.
Where do you see Berid ????
DarknessWin
10-03-2017, 02:04 AM
East Meds and Pontids mainly.
Again
East Med group = Pontid
West Med group = AtlentoMed
East med is not Phenotype
DarknessWin
10-03-2017, 02:11 AM
From what I can see genetically Cretans range from being similar to Peloponnesians all the way to nearly Cypriot like, which is a similar range for Sicily. Most Cretans results on an individual level though do have slightly more North European type DNA than Sicily has.
From the people of the videoclip majority of them are Pontids,
they fit perfect in North Greece.
I agree that have some Cypriot like types but they are few and
also they have few north european types ....
So what i say is that they fit way better with the mainland Greece than Cyprus.
Actually i see not difference even with Macedonians .
Many Pontids
MysteriousWays
10-03-2017, 02:17 AM
Pontid mostly. Some may have alpine. Typical Greek phenotypes imo.
Odelia
08-20-2022, 09:05 AM
Somehwere between levantine looking, anatolian and balkan looking...which is a duh moment
https://live.staticflickr.com/3514/3886605618_2b7eb6f47c_z.jpg
https://www.greece-is.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/01.-0735.jpg
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5986eaae414fb5ac5451f4e8/1569529602866-54I22GV6Y5Q3DX7UAI02/www.stemajourneys.com-crete-greece-cretan-shepherds.jpg
https://www.alpsinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/DSC6716.jpg.webp
https://www.grecotel.com/assets/media/PICTURES/GRECOTEL/DESTINATION/DESTINATION-GREECE/Main/best-destinations-in-greece-11255.jpg
http://www.ticls.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/cretan.jpg
https://www.rental-center-crete.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/folk-dancing-in-heraklion-greece-2.jpg
Love cretans, been to greek cretan weddings a few times :cool:
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