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Sebastianus Rex
10-04-2017, 10:22 PM
German national of Greek descent.
http://bilder.t-online.de/b/76/78/40/66/id_76784066/610/tid_da/odisseas-vlachodimos.jpg
http://mediadb.kicker.de/2017/fussball/spieler/xl/57232_3096_201769115157254.jpg
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/goalkeeper-odisseas-vlachodimos-of-germany-looks-on-during-the-picture-id664202168
Welcome to Benfica ! :notworth:
Lavrentis
10-04-2017, 10:27 PM
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Sebastianus Rex
10-04-2017, 10:33 PM
I think the first guy is his brother.
His brother:
http://www.efsyn.gr/sites/efsyn.gr/files/wysiwyg/vlaxodimos.jpg
Odisseas
http://futhead.cursecdn.com/static/img/14/players/211990.png
Thanks, you seem right, that pic was wrongly named as Odisseas. I'll fix the OP right away.
brennus dux gallorum
10-04-2017, 10:41 PM
dolicho-meso, leptoprosopic, typical med, though not sure what subtype.
Lavrentis
10-04-2017, 10:44 PM
dolicho-meso, leptoprosopic, typical med, though not sure what subtype.
I'd say he is fully doli
https://www.dfb.de/fileadmin/_processed_/201703/csm_133218-vlachodimos_be5386627e.jpg
Tooting Carmen
10-04-2017, 10:44 PM
Norid. I'd guess Albanian rather than Greek.
Lavrentis
10-04-2017, 10:48 PM
Norid. I'd guess Albanian rather than Greek.
He doesn't look Albanian to me. However, his surname suggests Vlachic ancestry and some Vlachs in Greece are mixed with Albanians so who knows. Also Norids are usually lighter
brennus dux gallorum
10-04-2017, 10:50 PM
He doesn't look Albanian to me. However, his surname suggests Vlachic ancestry and some Vlachs in Greece are mixed with Albanians so who knows. Also Norids are usually lighter
not really. The surname Vlachos means peasant or sepherd, doesn't indicate latin speaking people.
i agree that he doesn't look Albanian, nor norid
Sebastianus Rex
10-04-2017, 10:52 PM
Norid. I'd guess Albanian rather than Greek.
How the heck can he be Norid if he has no nordic pigmentation/traits ? And he is not even dinarcized.
MEDACHE
10-04-2017, 10:54 PM
pontid
Tooting Carmen
10-04-2017, 10:54 PM
How the heck can he be Norid if he has no nordic pigmentation/traits ? And he is not even dinarcized.
He is horsey-faced and pointy-nosed, so Dinaric. But looking at him again I agree he isn't Norid as such.
Lavrentis
10-04-2017, 10:54 PM
not really. The surname Vlachos means peasant or sepherd, doesn't indicate latin speaking people.
That's true, however it's possible some Vlachs in Greece got the surname 'Vlachos', similar to how Arvanites got the surname 'Arvanitis'. And you know that there is a group in Greece called 'Arvanito-Vlachoi', whp are Albanian-Vlachic mixes. He could be descended from them :p
Sebastianus Rex
10-04-2017, 10:54 PM
Dinaro Med
I don't think he can be dinaro of some form, not dinarcized imo and definitely not brachycephalic like dinaro types.
Lavrentis
10-04-2017, 10:55 PM
Dinaro Med
He doesn't have Dinarid influence
MEDACHE
10-04-2017, 10:56 PM
He is horsey-faced and pointy-nosed, so Dinaric. But looking at him again I agree he isn't Norid as such.
ever heard of the alanto med phenotype?... renowned for being horse faced
Percivalle
10-04-2017, 10:56 PM
He is horsey-faced and pointy-nosed, so Dinaric. But looking at him again I agree he isn't Norid as such.
Dinaric are brachycephaly, this guy is not brachy.
I don't think he can be dinaro of some form, not dinarcized imo and definitely not brachycephalic like dinaro types.
He doesn't have Dinarid influence
Not brachycephalic indeed but he does have other dinaro traits like a long face and tall (1.91) and slender build
brennus dux gallorum
10-04-2017, 10:57 PM
That's true, however it's possible some Vlachs in Greece got the surname 'Vlachos', similar to how Arvanites got the surname 'Arvanitis'. And you know that there is a group in Greece called 'Arvanito-Vlachoi', whp are Albanian-Vlachic mixes. He could be descended from them :p
no, they are a different case and can't have such a surname, post me pm to explain further
he is fully Greek descent, just a descent of sepherds, not merchants :D
Sebastianus Rex
10-04-2017, 10:58 PM
He is horsey-faced and pointy-nosed, so Dinaric. But looking at him again I agree he isn't Norid as such.
Really ?! Is that how you make classifications ?
Look at skulls, nothing to do with a dinaric skull.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--NmVAeTVql0/UccPfBPHp6I/AAAAAAAAAjw/CgNmREBwg9w/s1600/dinaric1%5B1%5D.jpg
https://s11.postimg.org/u1o5ejqgz/dinaric2.png
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/goalkeeper-odisseas-vlachodimos-of-germany-looks-on-during-the-picture-id664202168
Lavrentis
10-04-2017, 10:58 PM
Not brachycephalic indeed but he does have other dinaro traits like a long face and tall (1.91) and slender build
These traits can be found in other phenotypes too.
These traits can be found in other phenotypes too.
So how would you classify him then?
Arduti
10-04-2017, 10:59 PM
He looks like Prince William, especially in the first pic.
I don't know how to classify him though.
But to comment on Nordic people looking darker, I would like you to do an experiment on your computer with pigmentation. Darken the faces and hair of many Nordics and tell me they don't look exactly like Azeris and Turks.
Lavrentis
10-04-2017, 11:00 PM
So how would classify him then?
He is some variation of Med imo.
MEDACHE
10-04-2017, 11:01 PM
Not brachycephalic indeed but he does have other dinaro traits like a long face and tall (1.91) and slender build
all meds have long faces ya dope. and racial sub type has zero correlation to height, a chinaman or indian can reach 1.91
Lavrentis
10-04-2017, 11:01 PM
He looks like Prince William, especially in the first pic.
What? I don't see it at all
Sebastianus Rex
10-04-2017, 11:02 PM
So how would you classify him then?
Mediterranean. He presents intermediate characteristics between classic Mediterranean and the taller and more robust Atlanto-Med.
all meds have long faces ya dope. and racial sub type has zero correlation to height, a chinaman or indian can reach 1.91
China man and india man are not meds. Pure meds aka gracile meds are not tall and they dont have long faces.
brennus dux gallorum
10-04-2017, 11:03 PM
he is just mediterranean, just like 70% of Greeks are.
if he had a brachycephalic structure, and hook nose, he would probably be dinaric
MEDACHE
10-04-2017, 11:06 PM
China man and india man are not meds. Pure meds aka gracile meds are not tall and they dont have long faces.
you missed my point. yeah meds have short pig faces like alpines. i know plenty of meds that exceed 6 foot. furthermore, there are midget dinarics
Sebastianus Rex
10-04-2017, 11:11 PM
you missed my point. yeah meds have short pig faces like alpines. i know plenty of meds that exceed 6 foot. furthermore, there are midget dinarics
Classic Meds are not typically short faced, they are gracilized wich is different and with relatively smaller head dimensions comparing to Atlanto-Meds, some are rather long faced.
Classic example of a small mediterranean by Coon:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe224.jpg
MysteriousWays
10-04-2017, 11:12 PM
I agree with Sebastianus. Mix of Atlanto-Med and GM; I'd probably say more GM overall, but one could easily persuade me towards Atlanto-Med.
MEDACHE
10-04-2017, 11:13 PM
Classic Meds are not typically short faced, they are gracilized wich is different and with relatively smaller head dimensions comparing to Atlanto-Meds, some are rather long faced.
Classic example of a small mediterranean by Coon:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe224.jpg
i was being sarcastic
Vyasa
10-04-2017, 11:21 PM
atlanto-med
Sikeliot
10-04-2017, 11:31 PM
Dinaric. He looks Serbian.
averagedude
10-05-2017, 01:47 AM
Med. Pontid?
Sebastianus Rex
10-05-2017, 02:39 AM
Dinaric. He looks Serbian.
Already passed that, can't be Dinaric, not at all a dinaric skull and he's not dinarcized.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?223295-Classify-Odisseas-Vlachodimos&p=4687856&viewfull=1#post4687856
Tauromachos
10-05-2017, 11:03 AM
Classic Meds are not typically short faced, they are gracilized wich is different and with relatively smaller head dimensions comparing to Atlanto-Meds, some are rather long faced.
Classic example of a small mediterranean by Coon:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe224.jpg
There are two classic Med types
The dolichocephalic ones and the mesocephalic ones.
Classic Dinarics are brachyocephalic.
DarknessWin
10-05-2017, 12:26 PM
Pontid+ DinaroMed + CM
some people are extremely clueless here, especially those who classify him as pure Dinaric
Pure dinarics are extreme Brachy with armenoid noses and triangle shape of head
LLWW334
10-05-2017, 12:28 PM
Pontid with some Dinaric input.
Helenized Vlach I suppose.
FilhoV
10-05-2017, 01:27 PM
Can't be Dinaricized as he is not Brachycephalic
Columella
10-05-2017, 05:54 PM
Long vault, flat forehead, equine face.
Probably closer to a Mediterranean or a linear,narrow faced Atlanto Med variant of Coon or Angel. Head shape also reminds some of Coon’s Keltic types.
brennus dux gallorum
10-05-2017, 08:19 PM
Dinaric. He looks Serbian.
you look both more dinaric and Serbian than him
catgeorge
10-05-2017, 08:21 PM
Looks like Med and probably Pontid.
brennus dux gallorum
10-05-2017, 08:25 PM
Can't be Dinaricized as he is not Brachycephalic
Dinaricized Mediterraneans are Dolicho-meso, but with some dinaric influence in other parts of facial structure. these dinaric parts are absent on him (nose, etc)
aherne
10-06-2017, 04:20 AM
Looks completely Romanian
Tauromachos
09-14-2018, 01:11 PM
Looks completely Romanian
The name says it all^
He isn't typical for Greek
However as another member mentioned his type is not realy Dinaric
He looks more Atlantid or Pontid like with some Dinaric
The Blade
12-28-2018, 09:21 PM
Atlanto-Med + CM. Younger and more robust version of Anthony Kiedis (with a more prominent back of head though).
Rouxinol
03-14-2019, 07:02 PM
Looks Kabyle Berber from Algeria to me. Berberid. Weird name he's got.
https://static.fctables.com/upload/zb/zbrp257c6ae504e078/odisseas-vlachodimos.jpg
https://thumbs.web.sapo.io/?epic=NWNmdGUJDJk0kiL5sTNIzipgJAs4Fau3Mz2FdmPM3RtE yQ05au8WuvDWjTJbA6D30y3UF+PS5XMzB7vgJjYaam1WIiZ2rN whOsYUACNEqSY21tw=&W=800&H=0&delay_optim=1
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