Are Indians Serbs?

[Laberia]

Mortimer, ancient Serbs conquered India, hence Sanskrit, the old Serb language! I can't remember which Northern Indian tribe is predominately gene I? Do you believe in Srbenda? In Afghanistan there is the tribe called SARBANI, plenty of Sarba toponyms in West Asia.


So all GOOD GYPSIES OF SERBIA ARE ALSO ASIAN EASTERN SERBS!!!


It's not a coincident Sanskrit and MODERN spoken Serbian is most closest to each other. No other indo-European language is as close as modern serbian. What if Old Serbian from 2000 years ago was compared to Sanskrit, it would be much much more closer.


Trolling? Or do you watch too much Jovan Deretic? The closest languages to Sanskrit are Indo-Aryan languages. The closest languages to Indo-Aryan languages are Iranic languages. The closest language to Proto-Indo-European is Lithuanian.


^ is that your excuse, Jovan Deretic? Your a SARBAN, that's great, so tell me, what's the historical recollection we have from Lithuanians from antiquity?


Mr.Sarban, Scythians are Serbs. I want you to think, okay, the ancient SARMATIANS for example, their name was written according to Greek Alphabet and Pronounciation, right. Do you know that in Greek MP is pronounced as B, and then when B is encountered it's V, for example SERBIA is written as SER(V)IA. Just as SARBA-TIANS this B was pronounced as MP and it was later written in historical records as plainly just M!

Now Mr.SARBAN, in Hindi SARBA means a SERBIA!

Mortimer, why are you ignoring me? Do you know any of these FACTS?


i know nothing about that, since i dont know it, i ignored it. you can discuss with someone who knows something.


^ Mortimer, for starters, look up the Hindi name for SARBA, you'll be presently surprised!


Thoughts?

[Mortimer]

Serbs are only ancient indians who were 6 foot 7 tall and blonde and blue eyed, not the modern day dravidians. this is what experts say.

[Laberia]

Serbs are only ancient indians who were 6 foot 7 tall and blonde and blue eyed, not the modern day dravidians. this is what experts say.

This is really interesting. This opens a new scenario. I have to change the title of the thread and i have to add an fourth option in the poll. Are the servs Indians? Maybe someone from the mods can help to modify the title and to add this fourth, or more options.

[Arduti]

Deleted post.

[Lucia]

Big if true!

[Fractal]

lol

[Robocop]

Ofcourse Indianas are Serbs, is there anyone who doubt this? According to some prestigious Serbian Historians and Archaeologists; Entire planet is of Serbian origin, except MAYBE Eskimos.

[Finnish Swede]

Serbs are only ancient indians who were 6 foot 7 tall and blonde and blue eyed, not the modern day dravidians. this is what experts say.

What I keep ''funny'' in TA....is that quote many different southern europeans, balkans, and even some eastern central european ethnics are debating here and insulting each others...who are ''darker''... or opposite...who are more light skinned, who has more blonds and more light eyed people. Keeping those something positive or something to rise up against their own neighbours.

And then...in next moment/next corner with Nordics...the same persons are saying that they likes their own type more.

I see that very hilarous & comic.

[StormBringer]

Ofcourse Indianas are Serbs, is there anyone who doubt this? According to some prestigious Serbian Historians and Archaeologists; Entire planet is of Serbian origin, except MAYBE Eskimos.

Nope, these are guys are a laughing stock of critics and internet portals.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2_tKuKE0-i0/V5YjypX4idI/AAAAAAAAAbE/Bi4Gf0Vz3uESq3RqbXm7Z5z4A7gEtXWMQCLcB/s1600/ameba-sameba-srmeba.jpg

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Thoughts?

Well, i don't think really that they are Serbs. But in ancient time there was some relatives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbani , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbinda

[itilvolga]

in past, probably but if we should talk about today, no.

[Robocop]

Well, i don't think really that they are Serbs. But in ancient time there was some relatives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbani , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbinda

If we Croats would think like you then we would say that english colonists were taken by Croatian Martians on Roanoke Island centuries and centuries ago only because one thing was written on tree; Croaton.

But we're not like you and that Croaton has nothing to do with Croatia lol, or else we would say that CROmagnons were Croats. :D

[Tauromachos]

Ofcourse Indianas are Serbs, is there anyone who doubt this? According to some prestigious Serbian Historians and Archaeologists; Entire planet is of Serbian origin, except MAYBE Eskimos.

Its enough to ask Bosniensis

When Bosniensis says its true :cool:

[Albobalboa]

Well, i don't think really that they are Serbs. But in ancient time there was some relatives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbani , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbinda

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tyvthx6n3hI/hqdefault.jpg

Afghanistan/Pakistan region is the origin of Serbs

[RN97]

One wewuzkangz making fun of another wewuzkangz

[Albobalboa]

One wewuzkangz making fun of another wewuzkangz

Whorechild, be silent.

[Laberia]

If we Croats would think like you then we would say that english colonists were taken by Croatian Martians on Roanoke Island centuries and centuries ago only because one thing was written on tree; Croaton.

But we're not like you and that Croaton has nothing to do with Croatia lol, or else we would say that CROmagnons were Croats. :D
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhaaa thank you Robocop.
Now we have to ask Novi Pazar about this. Oh my God.

[Laberia]

One wewuzkangz making fun of another wewuzkangz

Get the hell out of here you retard.

[Laberia]

lol

Only lol? You have to thanks me Fractal.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

If we Croats would think like you then we would say that english colonists were taken by Croatian Martians on Roanoke Island centuries and centuries ago only because one thing was written on tree; Croaton.

But we're not like you and that Croaton has nothing to do with Croatia lol, or else we would say that CROmagnons were Croats. :D

No. "Croat" is a what foreign call you. Your name for yourself is "Hrvati". And that is what are you calling yourself. Not "Croats".

[Vlatko Vukovic]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tyvthx6n3hI/hqdefault.jpg

Afghanistan/Pakistan region is the origin of Serbs

Yes. That is origin of all Indo-Europeans :D That is not something exotic.

[Albobalboa]

Yes. That is origin of all Indo-Europeans :D That is not something exotic.

Go far enough and origin of man is in Africa. The Serbian ethnogenesis is Afghani

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Go far enough and origin of man is in Africa. The Serbian ethnogenesis is Afghani

So that is origin of the all Indo-Europeans. That is the place from which they migrated to Europe. LOL

Afghani people didn't even didn't exist in this time :D

[Laberia]

Yes. That is origin of all Indo-Europeans :D That is not something exotic.

No, the origin of the Indo-European peoples is not from Pashtunistan.

[Albobalboa]

So that is origin of the all Indo-Europeans. That is the place from which they migrated to Europe. LOL

Afghani people didn't even didn't exist in this time :D

All indo-europeans? By genetics? We aren't indo-european by genetics. Ethnogenesis formed in the balkans.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

No, the origin of the Indo-European peoples is not from Pashtunistan.

Lol. Serbs lived in today's Afghanistan. Does it make them Pashtun? Your Albanian theories are very bad and not logically.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

All indo-europeans? By genetics? We aren't indo-european by genetics. Ethnogenesis formed in the balkans.

Are we speaking about origin of ethno-linguistic groups or we speaking about ethnogenesis.

Serbs does not have same genetics like Pashtuns ofc.

[Albobalboa]

"Proto-Indo-European is the ancestral tongue of 400 languages and dialects, including English, German, Italian, Greek, and Hindi. It appeared in historic records dating back 3,700 years, but researchers have long debated over where and when Proto-Indo-European originated and how it spread. Some say it happened around 9,000 years ago in Anatolia (modern-day Turkey) and then dispersed along with agriculture; others think that it arose between 6,500 and 5,500 years ago in the grassy steppe lands of Ukraine and Russia, north of the Black and Caspian seas."

http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/indo-european-languages-may-have-originated-6000-years-ago-russian-grasslands/

Wtf iz u talking about. Where's Afghanistan and the Sarbans in all this?

[Laberia]

Lol. Serbs lived in today's Afghanistan. Does it make them Pashtun? Your Albanian theories are very bad and not logically.

Idiot, where did i mentioned servs in my post? It is so difficult for you to read a short sentence? Read it again:

No, the origin of the Indo-European peoples is not from Pashtunistan.
The theory of the origin of the Indo-European peoples is not an Albanian theory, imbecile.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Idiot, where did i mentioned servs in my post? It is so difficult for you to read a short sentence? Read it again:

The theory of the origin of the Indo-European peoples is not an Albanian theory, imbecile.

Your friend said that Serbs are Afghani by ethnogenesis, which is totally incorrect. Read previous post.

[Decius]

Why hasnt this thread been put on the troll carnival

[EasternEurope]

Why hasnt this thread been put on the troll carnival

Because it's true! ;))

[Vyasa]

yes my ancestors are from Belgrade

[Laberia]

Your friend said that Serbs are Afghani by ethnogenesis, which is totally incorrect. Read previous post.

Come on, the little kid want to play the troll. My friend posted a map where is it show the possible place of the origine of the servs in Pashtunistan You said:

Yes. That is origin of all Indo-Europeans That is not something exotic.
Ok? You see troll? And this is not an Albanian theory.
Read this: Origin hypotheses of the Serbs. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_hypotheses_of_the_Serbs)

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Come on, the little kid want to play the troll. My friend posted a map where is it show the possible place of the origine of the servs in Pashtunistan You said:

Ok? You see troll? And this is not an Albanian theory.
Read this: Origin hypotheses of the Serbs. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_hypotheses_of_the_Serbs)

Do you think i didn't read all of these texts?? Lol.

I didn't troll, just make different between Pashtunians and Serbs. Simply.

[Axios]

What I keep ''funny'' in TA....is that quote many different southern europeans, balkans, and even some eastern central european ethnics are debating here and insulting each others...who are ''darker''... or opposite...who are more light skinned, who has more blonds and more light eyed people. Keeping those something positive or something to rise up against their own neighbours.

And then...in next moment/next corner with Nordics...the same persons are saying that they likes their own type more.

I see that very hilarous & comic.

Welcome to the apricity

[Hamlet]

Serbs are only ancient indians who were 6 foot 7 tall and blonde and blue eyed, not the modern day dravidians. this is what experts say.

I hate to say this, but stop being a moron. I hope I fell for trolling!

[Laberia]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tyvthx6n3hI/hqdefault.jpg

Afghanistan/Pakistan region is the origin of Serbs

According to an servian scholar, Petkovic:

Some researches are also trying to connect Serb name with other somewhat similar names such are Siberia (region in Russia),[11] Sibiru (island near Sumatra),[11] Seri or Sereri (ancient people in Central Asia),[12]
The most probabile is Sibiru (island near Sumatra). From there, servs were sold as slaves to the Pashtun tribes.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

According to an servian scholar, Petkovic:

The most probabile is Sibiru (island near Sumatra). From there, servs were sold as slaves to the Pashtun tribes.

Yeah but that is just a propaganda. Nothing more. I am here to speak reallity with the arguments.

[Laberia]

Do you think i didn't read all of these texts?? Lol.

I didn't troll, just make different between Pashtunians and Serbs. Simply.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tyvthx6n3hI/hqdefault.jpg

Afghanistan/Pakistan region is the origin of Serbs


Yes. That is origin of all Indo-Europeans :D That is not something exotic.

[Laberia]

Yeah but that is just a propaganda. Nothing more. I am here to speak reallity with the arguments.
You are welcome. Go ahead and tell us your theory.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

You are welcome. Go ahead and tell us your theory.

Serbs arrived from place of today Afghanistan and mixed and adopt the language, religion and culture of the Slavic people (in this time ancestors of Slavs are undefined. Probably that was people "Venedi" or a Scythians, becouse the Scythians are settled a place of Southern Russia and Ukraine.)

Some Czech scholar really claimed that all Slavs called themself "Sarbans" (Serbs), but i think that hypothesis is not correct. But that is irrelevant becouse it is not official theory.

But Serb base is Slavic. Just Serbs saved 1 Slavic tradition of all Slavic nations. They called it "Krsna slava". They saved it from Slavic mythologhy beliefs. In "Krsna Slava" they are remembering a name of their ancestor who adopt a Christianity. It is a big cultural and traditional achievment.

[Mingle]

No. "Croat" is a what foreign call you. Your name for yourself is "Hrvati". And that is what are you calling yourself. Not "Croats".

The terms Hrvat and Croat have the same etymology.


Probably that was people "Venedi" or a Scythians, becouse the Scythians are settled a place of Southern Russia and Ukraine.

The Venedi and Scythians are distinct peoples.

[Mingle]

Serbs arrived from place of today Afghanistan

They did not.

[Profileid]

It's a Serbian world,we're just living in it.

[Laberia]

They did not.

And from where the hell arrived this people? There is nothing information about them before middle age in their wiki page. This is how the page start:

Slavs settled in the Balkans in the 6th and 7th centuries, where they subsequently absorbed the local population (Illyrians, Thracians, Dacians, Romans, Celts).[1] The earliest found mention of the Serbs is from Einhard's Royal Frankish Annals, written in 822, when Ljudevit went from his seat at Sisak to the Serbs (believed to have been somewhere in western Bosnia),[2] with Einhard mentioning "the Serbs, who control the greater part of Dalmatia" (ad Sorabos, quae natio magnam Dalmatiae partem obtinere dicitur[3]).[2]

And before middle ages? We practically don't know nothing about this people.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

The terms Hrvat and Croat have the same etymology.



The Venedi and Scythians are distinct peoples.

Scholars prooved that mainly ancestors of Slavs are Venedi. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vistula_Veneti

[Laberia]

There is a possible Albanian origin for the Slavs, i.e. you are directly from our balls:


LITUANUS
LITHUANIAN QUARTERLY JOURNAL OF ARTS AND SCIENCES

Volume 39, No.2 - Summer 1993
Editor of this issue: Robertas Vitas, Lithuanian Research & Studies Center
ISSN 0024-5089
Copyright © 1993 LITUANUS Foundation, Inc.
Lituanus
SLAVIC, A BALTICIZED ALBANIAN?

Harvey E. Mayer

Hamp (1984) in his criticism of my article (Mayer 1981), after his inaccurate comment that Iranian, because of its vowel system, 'can surely be classified only with Indic',1 makes statements about Albanian which stimulate major investigation.

He says: 'It can be said to be related more closely to Baltic and Slavic than to anything else, and certainly not to be close to Thracian.'2

I ask: If so, is Albanian more closely related to Slavic than to Baltic? And if it is, was Pre-Slavic originally so closely tied with Pre-Albanian in Late Dialectal Indo-European times that both represented very minor variations of the same dialect as opposed to other dialects like Pre-Baltic, Pre-Iranian, Pre-Germanic, etc.?

Martynov (1981) says that Proto-Slavic is Italicized Proto-Baltic while Common Slavic is Iranicized Proto-Slavic. This is all based on lexicon. My suggestion that Slavic mainly reflects in its essence an original Pre-Albanian variant both phonologically and lexically with a huge superimposed Baltic lexical influence now extending into morphology rests on a broader and deeper linguistic base. With this, it offers some answers to some vexing questions.

Phonologically, Slavic and Albanian have the following notable ancient ties: 1. Th, TH to T, 2. Dh, DH to D (T = voiceless stop, D = voiceless stop, h = aspiration, H = laryn-geal), 3. s alternating with h (not true of Baltic), 4. reflexes of k' (g'(h) kept separate from those of the ruki law (not true of Baltic), 5. ks- to h- (not true of Baltic), a special, exclusive Albanian-Slavic reflex, 6. more cases of k', g'(h) to k, g than other satem languages including Baltic which shows sibilants instead (Shevelov 1965 for the Slavic).

Lexically, Slavic and Albanian correspondences minus Baltic ones outnumber Baltic and Albanian correspondences minus Slavic ones.3 This is striking when we consider that the opposite is true for Hittite and Tokharian.

Viewing (Pre-)Slavic as a variant of (Pre-)Albanian, considering their relative geographic positions as a constant, makes it easy for us to see just how Martynov's comments about Italic and Iranian influences can apply not only for Slavic, but for Albanian as well. Note that North Iranian contacts apparently influenced Slavic while South Iranian contacts apparently influenced Albanian.4

This (Pre)-Slavic-(Pre) Albanian view allows us also to suggest an answer to the question mentioned by Trubačev (1981) of Common Slavic's absence from the region of Old European hydronomy in which Baltic plays an important role, possibly even that of the center of its radiation. He says, "... and this is very odd because it contradicts the supra-language and supra-dialect character of the named hydronymic region and also contradicts all the old ties of Common Slavic with other Indo-European languages of Europe, and finally contradicts the theory of departure of Common Slavic from the heart of Common Baltic or its western branch.' This (Pre-)Slavic (Pre-)Albanian view might also allow us to state with considerable assurance our answer to the question of the origins of Albanian, especially since a similar problem with ancient Albanian place names in Albania occurs. The answer to both questions is probably that the (Pre-)Slavs and (Pre-

The possibility of special, close aboriginal (Pre-)Slavic-(Pre)Albanian dialectal ties indicates the Carpathians as a common ancestral home for (Pre-)Slavs and (Pre-)Albanians where they led a pastoral, migratory existence. This location surely originally put them out of reach of contact with Pre-Baltic.

This is evidenced by two ancient phonological differences: 1. Slavic's and Albanian's reflexes of k', g'(h) separate from those of the ruki law versus Baltic's early immediate merger of them into š/s, ž/z, 2. The special Slavo-Albanian reflex of ks-to h-: Russian dialect xinit' 'to condemn', Russian xilyj, xiloj 'sickly'; Albanian (h)unj, Shkoder ulj, ulem 1 belittle' where h-is from ks- if not kh- (Fasmer 1973; 236-8)5 versus Baltic's metathesis of original ks- to sk-t an ancient change predating the ruki law: Lithuanian skaudus 'painful' versus Slavic xudu 'bad' (Stang 1965:95).

It is significant that wherever original sk-/ks- occurs, Baltic has sk-, Slavic has reflexes of either, while Albanian, where anti-Baltic drift is the strongest, has h- from an original ks- or, I believe, from a ks- via metathesis from an original sk- before a back vowel as in he from skoia 'shadow' (Fasmer 1973:602).

My present view of Slavic as a heavily Balticized Albanian, I believe, helps make my answers to all of Hamp's objections to my previous article's position against a Balto-Slavic protolanguage cogent despite the 'evidence' he cites for it including 'syllabic contrast between long and short or acuted and circumflex',6 'the remarkable agreement of Baltic and Slavic in the incidence of a double reflex of the Indo-European syllabic sonants,7 and in the lengthening of syllables before Indo-European mediae,8 and in the derivational vrddhi affecting i's and u's developed in Baltic and Slavic analyzed so fully by Leskien, and in several basic formational features of the verbal system.' In the end all of this involves borrowing, calking, and otherwise favoring of morphemes, even those occurring as doublets, of one sort (words) or another (affixes) over others via dialect or language clustering contact.

With Pre-Slavs seen as originally basically nomadic northern Pre-Albanian descending northward from the Carpathians into regions with sedentary, most likely, technically superior Baits, we can expect their dialect to have been strongly influenced by Baltic. A further sign of this ancient situation is the much greater degree of homogeneity of Slavic than of Baltic where more anciently sedentary dialects tend to show far less homogeneity than migratory ones. Albanian, with more homogeneity than Slavic, shows an even later onset of sedentary habits of its speakers who, having moved south, characteristically, seem to have replaced one mountainous region (the Carpathians) with another (the Balkans) to continue an earlier, somewhat migratory, nomadic type of living before finally becoming sedentary.

I am grateful to Hamp for his remarks about Albanian. They helped me identify Pre-Slavic as a variant of Pre-Albanian and support the notion that it was originally significantly different from Pre-Baltic under whose influence it later fell. In a way, Slavic resembles English, a powerfully Romanized Germanic language. But where the situation with English has been relatively easily identifiable, the analogous situation with Slavic has been very elusive. This is not surprising. The influence of conservative Baltic gave Slavic a conservative appearance. The influence of innovative neighboring dialects and languages (Celtic, for example) on Albanian gave it a much changed appearance. The immediate reaction has been: Albanian and Slavic look so different while Baltic and Slavic seem so much alike.

To counter this, I provide the reminder that the proposed Slavic-Albanian linguistic unity ended a long time ago, when Indo-European syllabic nasals n, m, n, m became vowels plus nasals. Before this, Pre-Slavic and Pre-Albanian had had different new neighbors. For, perhaps, centuries before this Pre-Slavic, and not Pre-Albanian, had had Pre-Baltic and Pre-Germanic, and for, perhaps, millennia after this Slavic, and not Albanian, had Baltic and Germanic as neighbors.

References

Fasmer, Maks. 1964-1973. Etimologičeskij slovar' russkogo jazyka, tr. by O. N. Trubačev. Vote. 1-4. Moskva: Izdatelstvo 'Progress'.
_. 1973. (Volume 4 of the above) 236-8, 253, 602.
Fraenkel, Ernst. 1962-1965. Litauisches etymologisches Worterbuch, Vote. 1,2. Heidelberg: Carl Winter Universitatsverlag. Gottingen: Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht.
Hamp, Eric P. 1980. Thracian, Dacian and Albanian-Romanian Correspondences. Actes du IIe Congres international de thracologie. Vol. 3, 57-60. Bucuresti.
_. 1984. On Myths and Accuracy. General Linguistics. 24.4.238-9.
Martynov, V.V. Balto-slavjano-iranskie jazykovye otnošenija. Balto-slavjanskie issledovanija 1980, 16-26. Moskva: Izdatel'stvo "Nauka'.
Mayer, Harvey E. 1981. Two Linguistic Myths: Balto-Slavic and Common Baltic. Lituanus. 27.1.63-8.
_. 1983. Zum Lexikon und der balto-slavischen Frage. San Antonio: Defense Language Institute. /To appear in Zeitschrift fur slavische Philologie./
_. 1987. Prussian, an Aboriginal a-Language? Lituanus. 35. 5. 66.
Shevelov, George Y. 1965. A Prehistory of Slavic: The Phonology of Common Slavic, 139-49. New York-Morningside Heights: Columbia University Press.
Stang, Chr. S. 1966. Vergleichende Grammatik der baltischen Sprachen, 95. Oslo-Bergen-Tromso: Universitetsforlaget.
Trubačev, O.N. 1981. Replika po balto-slavjanskomu voprosu. Balto-slavjanskie issledovanija 1980, 4. Moskva: Izdatel'stvo 'Nauka'.
Winter, Werner. 1978. The distribution of short and long vowels in stems of the type Lith. esti: vesti: mesti and OCS jasti: vesti: mesti in Baltic and Slavic Languages. Trends in Linguistics 4. Recent Developments in Historical Phonology, ed. by J. Fisiak, 431-46. The Hague-Paris-New York: Mouton.

Notes

1 Indie and Iranian once had five vowel systems of a, e, i, o, u, with e reconstructible from a in ca, ja from ke, ge, short o restorable by Brugmann's law of oR + vowel to aR + vowel, and long o retraceable from long a in formations alternating with those with a demonstrable erstwhile short o. With short o merging with short a before the merger of their long counterparts in Iranian, we arrive at the vowel system of a, e, i, o, u which I proposed for a conceivable Late Central Indo-European dialect including Iranian.
2 Hamp (1980) says that in Pre-Roman times palatalization of Indo-European labio-velars before front vowels occurred in Albanian but not in Thracian which proves Albanian could not have been Thracian. But can we be sure that the Latin and Greek symbols used circa Roman times represented unpalatalized velars? Note also that Hamp surely classifies
Lithuanian as dose to Latvian despite Lithuanian's kelti, kilti, gyvas, geltonas, etc. without the palatalizations Latvian shows in celt, cilt, dzivs, dzeltans ('raise, rise, alive, yellow'), etc.
3 In an article (Mayer 1987) I mention that examination of Fasmer 1964-1973 and Fraenkel 1962-1965 indicates that Slavic-Albanian-minus-Baltic native cognate roots outnumber Baltic-Albanian-minus-Slavic ones by approximately 1/3. Since we expect languages of long separation to match better in original lexicon with more conservative Baltic, this opposite situation with Albanian indicates special ties with Slavic as a unit separate from Baltic.
4 For Indo-European k', g'(h) North Iranian and Slavic coincide with s, z while South Iranian and Albanian coincide with th, dh.
5 This is less likely from kh. Note k, not h, in theke 'tip' from a possible kh.
6 In an article (Mayer 1983) and again in another (Mayer 1987) I explain the opposition in Baltic and Slavic of circumflex versus acute which replaced that of short versus long in tautosyllables as having arisen from a process of affixation initiated in one dialect or language and later spread to the others via calking. In these positions I saw long syllables arising from infixed vowel morphemes homophonous with already present root vowels, e.g., *varn- 'raven': *va-a-rn- 'crow'. Here, by analogy with long root vowels inherited from Indo-European as the long o in *do- 'give' the new long vowels arising through contraction were acute. The same sort of new long vowels in affixes were circumflex as the e, (e/ė) in Old Church Slavonic neseaste: Lithuanian nešėte 'you carried'. This new long-vowel-creating process involving positioning of morphological elements was syntactic and, therefore, as easily calked as lexicon. In origin it was not at all phonetic.
7 Evidence from Indie (r, ur, ir) indicates three possible reflexes of an Indo-European syllabic resonant (R):1. neutral R which later became aR in many dialects and daughter-languages, 2, labialized uR, and 3. palatalized iR. Where o tended to become a, labialized uR and/or palatalized iR tended to be generalized for morphological purposes to avoid confusion of TR(T) and ToR(T) reflexes, now both TaR(T). Through dialect and language clustering influences (calking, etc.), uR was stabilized as the reflex of R was stabilized as an alternate reflex of R in satem palatalizing Baltic and Slavic.
8 This lengthening of syllables before Indo-European mediae mentioned by Winter (1978) was not phonetic, but morphological in origin. Thus we find long e in Baltic and Slavic sed- 'sit down' matched by the same in Gothic setun 'they sat'. Short vowels occur in the same morpheme with shifts in meaning in Gothic sitan 'to sit' and Slavic šid- 'having gone', xod- 'going'. (Fasmer 1973:253 for the etymological connection.) Also, note the additional exceptions with (originally) short vowels: Slavic voda 'water', koza 'goaf, ogni 'fire', čeznoti 'to disappear', kogutu 'claw', stogu 'stack', stirženi 'pivot'; Old Russian: mulzu 'I churn butter'; Russian lizat' 'to lick'; Lithuanian: laigonas 'brother-in-law', luba 'ceiling board'.

Source:
http://www.lituanus.org/1993_2/93_2_05.htm#Ref

So, the famous story of sons who decided to turn against their father.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

There is a possible Albanian origin for the Slavs, i.e. you are directly from our balls:


Source:
http://www.lituanus.org/1993_2/93_2_05.htm#Ref

So, the famous story of sons who decided to turn against their father.

Hahhahahahhahahahhahahahha. Yes, sure. That is a true theory.

Tell me, do you really believe in it ? :D

Btw. Lithuanians are not Slavs :) They are Balto-people.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Just like Albanians make a propaganda about Serbs, same case is for Baltic people. Lithuanians make ALSO propaganda against Russia (Slavs) becouse they are supremacy toward them :)

[Laberia]

Just like Albanians make a propaganda about Serbs, same case is for Baltic people. Lithuanians make ALSO propaganda against Russia (Slavs) becouse they are supremacy toward them :)

Show me a paper of Albanian propaganda against servs or get the hell out of here. I don't have time for an teenager with strong crisis of ethnic identity, apart other crisis typical of your age.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Show me a paper of Albanian propaganda against servs or get the hell out of here. I don't have time for an teenager with strong crisis of ethnic identity, apart other crisis typical of your age.

You already posted it in previous post.

That was a great bullshit propaganda which is not proved even 1%.

Maybe you don't have yourself propaganda, but you use propaganda of other nations. (In this case Lithuanians)

[Mingle]

Scholars prooved that mainly ancestors of Slavs are Venedi. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vistula_Veneti

Yes, the Venedi are the ancestors of Slavs. Scythians have nothing to do with Slavs or Venedi.

[Mingle]

And from where the hell arrived this people?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Migration_of_Serbs.png

[Lavrentis]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Migration_of_Serbs.png

Why are there pockets of Serbs in northern Greece? There were no Serbian communities in Greece.

[Mingle]

Why are there pockets of Serbs in northern Greece? There were no Serbian communities in Greece.

Wasn't Greece part of the Serbian Empire and Serbia part of the Byzantine Empire? It would make sense for some local travel to have occurred when they were part of the same empire.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Yes, the Venedi are the ancestors of Slavs.

That is not proven. But that is a stance of many scholars.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Wasn't Greece part of the Serbian Empire and Serbia part of the Byzantine Empire? It would make sense for some local travel to have occurred when they were part of the same empire.

Not so long but was. In Dušan's Empire.

[Lavrentis]

Wasn't Greece part of the Serbian Empire and Serbia part of the Byzantine Empire? It would make sense for some local travel to have occurred when they were part of the same empire.

Greece was part of the Serbian for 25 years. That's not long. There are no recorded Serbian migrations in Greece during Byzantine times either.

[Mingle]

Greece was part of the Serbian for 25 years. That's not long. There are no recorded Serbian migrations in Greece during Byzantine times either.

It only shows a tiny dot of Serbs to have lived in Greece, so an insignificant amount. Some large scale migration isn't necessary for that.

It could be a small inaccuracy as well, I don't know for sure.

[catgeorge]

Wasn't Greece part of the Serbian Empire and Serbia part of the Byzantine Empire? It would make sense for some local travel to have occurred when they were part of the same empire.

These are panslavic exaggerations 25 year empire is not enough time to establish life long communities without expulsions.

[Albobalboa]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tyvthx6n3hI/hqdefault.jpg

The development of indo-european languages.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tyvthx6n3hI/hqdefault.jpg

The development of indo-european languages.

Your language is Indo-European too. Did you know it, brainwashed Albanian?

[Fractal]

Stupid Albo-anian, don't compare us to a subhuman South Slavic race that belongs in the gas chamber.

Serbs = non-Aryans

[Laberia]

Stupid Albo-anian, don't compare us to a subhuman South Slavic race that belongs in the gas chamber.

Serbs = non-Aryans

Fractal, you are totally a retard. What have to do Albanians in all this story? Nobody compared nothing.