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Hudayar
10-08-2017, 12:04 PM
Unfortunately i'm not allowed to share his GEDmatch kitnumber, but the person allowed me to share the results. Enjoy!


MDLP K23b results:
https://i.imgur.com/Qn4kP8a.png
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.39
2 South_Central_Asian 15.50
3 Near_East 8.90
4 European_Early_Farmers 8.65
5 Tungus-Altaic 7.69
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 6.95
7 Ancestral_Altaic 5.28
8 East_Siberian 3.68
9 South_Indian 2.40
10 North_African 2.30
11 Arctic 1.45


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Aydin_ @ 9.309506
2 Turk_ @ 10.136407
3 Turk_Adana_ @ 10.437569
4 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 11.441490
5 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 11.514420
6 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 11.634167
7 Azeri_ @ 13.321775
8 Nogai_ @ 13.755654
9 Kurd_North_ @ 14.389393
10 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 14.399537
11 Georgian_Jew_ @ 14.901056
12 Kurd_South_ @ 15.192968
13 Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 16.032942
14 Iraki_ @ 16.162626
15 Kurd_East_ @ 16.272804
16 Cirkassian_ @ 16.376595
17 Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 16.621916
18 Azov_Greek_ @ 16.642782
19 Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 16.691647
20 Baku_WGA_ @ 16.925547

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_ +50% Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 4.599672


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_Adana_ +25% Turk_Aydin_ +25% Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.395589


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Turk_Adana_ + Turk_Adana_ + Turk_Aydin_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.395589
2 Turk_Adana_ + Turk_Aydin_ + Turk_Kayseri_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.429283
3 Turk_Adana_ + Turk_Adana_ + Turk_Istanbul_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.440427
4 Armenian_Yerevan_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.581681
5 Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Turk_ + Turk_Aydin_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.589380
6 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.624957
7 Cypriot_ + Kurd_South_ + Nogai_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.663938
8 Greek_Smyrna_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Nogai_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.671517
9 Azeri_ + Azeri_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.681196
10 Azeri_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Turk_Adana_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.681714
11 Turk_Adana_ + Turk_Adana_ + Turk_Balikesir_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.684633
12 Assyrian_Arzni_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.701512
13 Baku_WGA_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Kazakh_ + Kurd_ @ 2.705853
14 Turk_ + Turk_Adana_ + Turk_Aydin_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.708597
15 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Iraqi_Jew_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.721123
16 Armenian_Yerevan_ + Cretan_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.723246
17 Turk_Adana_ + Turk_Balikesir_ + Turk_Kayseri_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.726411
18 Baku_WGA_ + Nogai_ + Turk_Jew_ + Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 2.729944
19 Baku_WGA_ + Baku_WGA_ + Kazakh_ + Sicilian_Center_ @ 2.734671
20 Turk_Adana_ + Turk_Istanbul_ + Turk_Kayseri_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 2.738014

Done.

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Eurogenes K13 results:
https://i.imgur.com/d0XUBEl.png
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 28.69
2 East_Med 22.87
3 West_Med 11.93
4 Siberian 8.88
5 Red_Sea 5.77
6 North_Atlantic 5.70
7 Baltic 5.26
8 South_Asian 4.70
9 East_Asian 4.32
10 Amerindian 1.01


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 8.809603
2 Azeri @ 11.859710
3 Turkmen @ 13.733478
4 Kurdish @ 17.690674
5 Kumyk @ 17.933407
6 Iranian @ 18.007023
7 Nogay @ 19.255138
8 Armenian @ 19.282076
9 Georgian_Jewish @ 19.424198
10 Assyrian @ 20.530216
11 Balkar @ 20.723967
12 Lebanese_Muslim @ 21.613550
13 Syrian @ 21.645481
14 Kabardin @ 21.937136
15 Adygei @ 22.606899
16 Iranian_Jewish @ 22.937727
17 Kurdish_Jewish @ 23.104864
18 Ossetian @ 23.434658
19 Afghan_Tadjik @ 23.472454
20 Central_Greek @ 23.911295

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Nogay +50% Syrian @ 4.780153


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +25% Hazara +25% Ossetian @ 3.543429


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++
1 Algerian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Hazara + Ossetian @ 3.063605
2 Algerian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Ossetian + Uzbeki @ 3.085526
3 Afghan_Turkmen + Ossetian + Samaritan + Turkish @ 3.129621
4 Algerian_Jewish + Assyrian + Hazara + Ossetian @ 3.140361
5 Algerian_Jewish + Georgian + Hazara + Turkish @ 3.163972
6 Cyprian + Hazara + Ossetian + Syrian @ 3.183085
7 Abhkasian + Central_Greek + Hazara + Syrian @ 3.203585
8 Algerian_Jewish + Balkar + Georgian_Jewish + Hazara @ 3.206583
9 Cyprian + Hazara + Lebanese_Muslim + Ossetian @ 3.234636
10 Ossetian + Samaritan + Turkish + Uzbeki @ 3.242937
11 Abhkasian + Hazara + South_Italian + Syrian @ 3.260512
12 Abhkasian + Algerian_Jewish + Turkish + Uzbeki @ 3.269900
13 Balkar + Georgian_Jewish + Hazara + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.276692
14 Afghan_Turkmen + Balkar + Samaritan + Turkish @ 3.276993
15 Armenian + Balkar + Libyan_Jewish + Uzbeki @ 3.282801
16 Algerian_Jewish + Hazara + Kurdish_Jewish + Ossetian @ 3.303246
17 Hazara + Kurdish_Jewish + Ossetian + South_Italian @ 3.311464
18 Abhkasian + East_Sicilian + Hazara + Syrian @ 3.311630
19 Algerian_Jewish + Georgian + Turkish + Uzbeki @ 3.311917
20 Armenian + Balkar + Tunisian_Jewish + Uzbeki @ 3.317936

Done.

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Dodecad K12b results:
https://i.imgur.com/pip2lRO.png
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.88
2 Gedrosia 15.28
3 Southwest_Asian 11.23
4 Atlantic_Med 10.86
5 North_European 8.34
6 East_Asian 7.13
7 Siberian 6.35
8 South_Asian 2.75
9 Northwest_African 1.91


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks_Behar @ 11.747675
2 Turkish_Dodecad @ 12.512654
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 16.779585
4 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 16.976721
5 Iranian_Dodecad @ 17.416737
6 Kurd_Dodecad @ 17.456827
7 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 18.123976
8 Lebanese_Behar @ 18.258465
9 Iranians_Behar @ 19.352274
10 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 19.759001
11 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 19.773550
12 Syrians_Behar @ 20.885471
13 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 21.441313
14 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 21.733824
15 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 21.912518
16 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 21.983202
17 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 22.207966
18 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 22.308208
19 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 22.348667
20 Jordanians_Behar @ 22.525414

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots_Behar +50% Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 6.236756


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots_Behar +25% Turkmens_Yunusbayev +25% Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.217216


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Cypriots_Behar + Druze_HGDP + Turkmens_Yunusbayev + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.842257
2 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Hazara_HGDP + Turks_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.097263
3 Hazara_HGDP + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.115040
4 Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Turks_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.155966
5 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Hazara_HGDP + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.176149
6 Cypriots_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.217216
7 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Hazara_HGDP + Turks_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.269019
8 Assyrian_Dodecad + Hazara_HGDP + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 2.305165
9 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Hazara_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 2.374772
10 Hazara_HGDP + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.381772
11 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Hazara_HGDP + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.438324
12 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Hazara_HGDP + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 2.440046
13 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Hazara_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 2.461537
14 Druze_HGDP + Hazara_HGDP + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.464490
15 Adygei_HGDP + Hazara_HGDP + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 2.466699
16 Hazara_HGDP + Lebanese_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.473661
17 Iranian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Turks_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.481210
18 Assyrian_Dodecad + Hazara_HGDP + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.494192
19 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Hazara_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 2.504956
20 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Hazara_HGDP + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 2.505270

Done.

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Eurasia K9 ASI Results:
https://i.imgur.com/uK8zKoG.png
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 29.47
2 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 20.14
3 SW_Asian 16.95
4 WHG 10.55
5 Siberian_E_Asian 8.14
6 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 6.76
7 SE_Asian 6.63
8 Ancestral_South_Indian 1.34


Finished reading population data. 118 populations found.
9 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 7.961851
2 Kumyk @ 11.061848
3 Adygei @ 11.896247
4 Azeri @ 12.438084
5 Chechen @ 14.074206
6 Azeri_Dagestan @ 15.313276
7 Turkmen @ 15.531966
8 Lezgin @ 16.840244
9 Iranian @ 17.004963
10 Kurd_N @ 17.709957
11 Uzbek_Afghan @ 18.036146
12 Turkmen_Afghan @ 18.361166
13 Abkhasian @ 18.590410
14 Armenian @ 18.723297
15 Georgian @ 18.723553
16 Georgian_Jew @ 19.695288
17 Tajik_Afghan @ 20.452171
18 Cypriot @ 21.863176
19 Kurd_C @ 21.997726
20 Iranian_Jew @ 22.048084

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +50% Turkmen_Afghan @ 4.170694


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Turkish +25% Turkish +25% Turkmen_Afghan @ 2.271140


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Adygei + Cypriot + Turkmen + Turkmen @ 1.716078
2 Chechen + Cypriot + Hazara + Turkish @ 1.723122
3 Cypriot + Kumyk + Turkmen + Turkmen @ 1.836347
4 Kumyk + Turkish + Turkish + Uzbek @ 1.896200
5 Cypriot + Hazara + Lezgin + Turkish @ 1.910413
6 Adygei + Turkish + Turkish + Uzbek @ 1.964005
7 Chechen + Cypriot + Turkmen + Turkmen @ 2.033595
8 Cypriot + Hazara + Kumyk + Turkish @ 2.070253
9 Chechen + Cypriot + Turkish + Uzbek @ 2.082174
10 Kurd_N + Sicilian + Turkmen + Turkmen @ 2.082597
11 Kumyk + Turkish + Turkish + Turkmen @ 2.090015
12 Cypriot + Lezgin + Turkish + Uzbek @ 2.094586
13 Georgian_Jew + Hazara + Kumyk + Sicilian @ 2.135141
14 Greek + Iranian_Jew + Turkmen + Turkmen @ 2.140170
15 Georgian + Maltese + Turkmen + Turkmen @ 2.152840
16 Cypriot + Hazara + Kumyk + Kumyk @ 2.158704
17 Chechen + Georgian_Jew + Hazara + Sicilian @ 2.163679
18 Cypriot + Kumyk + Kumyk + Uygur @ 2.189775
19 Adygei + Cypriot + Hazara + Turkish @ 2.191215
20 Adygei + Cypriot + Kumyk + Uygur @ 2.193200

Done.

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I can also post other calculators' results if you want to.

Hudayar
10-08-2017, 12:10 PM
he's from this area

https://i.imgur.com/hmRWKKE.png

Hudayar
10-08-2017, 12:21 PM
His ancestry appears like this

1/2 Central Asian (Turkmens from Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Nogays)+1/2 Levantine/Cyprian/Greeco-Armenian/Assyrian
or
1/2 Anatolian (Cyprian, Jew, Greek, Armenian, Syrian) + 1/4 Central Asian (Hazara, Afghan Turkmen, Uzbek) and 1/4 Iranian (Kurds, Ossetians)

Hadouken
10-08-2017, 01:45 PM
could be a yörük

Hudayar
10-08-2017, 02:01 PM
could be a yörük

No he is not

Hudayar
10-08-2017, 02:08 PM
Fun fact is that most Turks i saw, let them be from Western Turkey or not, are close to Turk_Aydin in K23b. Dont know why, maybe Turks from Aydın are the "purest" Turks with no Kurdish, Balkan and Arab samples.

Hudayar
10-08-2017, 02:47 PM
On Eurasia K9 (Oracle 1) the results are like this
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 29.47
2 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 20.14
3 SW_Asian 16.95
4 WHG 10.55
5 Siberian_E_Asian 8.14
6 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 6.76
7 SE_Asian 6.63
8 Ancestral_South_Indian 1.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.69
2 Kumyk 10.69
3 Adygei 11.42
4 Azeri 11.63
5 Chechen 13.56
6 Azeri_Dagestan 14.52
7 Turkmen 15.25
8 Iranian 16.04
9 Lezgin 16.14
10 Kurd_N 16.7
11 Uzbek_Afghan 17.06
12 Abkhasian 17.52
13 Georgian 17.8
14 Armenian 17.85
15 Turkmen_Afghan 17.89
16 Georgian_Jew 18.52
17 Tajik_Afghan 19.26
18 Kurd_C 20.44
19 Iranian_Jew 20.69
20 Cypriot 20.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67% Turkish + 33% Turkmen @ 1.93
2 70.5% Turkish + 29.5% Turkmen_Afghan @ 1.93
3 76.1% Turkish + 23.9% Uzbek @ 2.27
4 75.6% Turkish + 24.4% Hazara_Afghan @ 2.58
5 81.9% Turkish + 18.1% Hazara @ 2.98
6 84.2% Turkish + 15.8% RISE_irAltai @ 3.09
7 82.4% Turkish + 17.6% Uygur @ 3.22
8 87.7% Turkish + 12.3% RISE_irRus @ 3.65
9 50.1% Armenian + 49.9% Turkmen_Afghan @ 3.91
10 53.8% Turkmen_Afghan + 46.2% Cypriot @ 3.95
11 87.3% Turkish + 12.7% Kyrgyz @ 3.95
12 71.6% Turkish + 28.4% Uzbek_Afghan @ 3.96
13 88.6% Turkish + 11.4% Altaian @ 4.06
14 58.1% Turkmen + 41.9% Cypriot @ 4.13
15 74.4% Turkish + 25.6% Tajik_Afghan @ 4.15
16 57.2% Armenian + 42.8% Uzbek @ 4.38
17 54.8% Turkmen_Afghan + 45.2% Druze @ 4.52
18 50.9% Turkmen_Afghan + 49.1% Georgian_Jew @ 4.52
19 54.2% Turkmen + 45.8% Armenian @ 4.56
20 52.3% Cypriot + 47.7% Hazara_Afghan @ 4.64

Leto
10-08-2017, 08:28 PM
He's around 13% Siberian/Asian, that's quite a lot.

Hudayar
10-08-2017, 08:42 PM
He's around 13% Siberian/Asian, that's quite a lot.

nope. he's actually average, average mongoloid dna for Turks is around 11-15%
http://i57.tinypic.com/a4wmyx.png
http://i.hizliresim.com/vEB25v.png

Gangrel
10-08-2017, 08:43 PM
Is he from Kahramanmaraş?

Hudayar
10-08-2017, 08:44 PM
Is he from Kahramanmaraş?

No

Leto
10-08-2017, 08:51 PM
nope. he's actually average, average mongoloid dna for Turks is around 11-15%
I thought more like 5-7% or so. Why is the Western part the darkest? That contradicts the idea of supposed mass assimilation of Greeks and Balkan Slavs.

Hudayar
10-08-2017, 08:59 PM
I thought more like 5-7% or so. Why is the Western part the darkest? That contradicts the idea of supposed mass assimilation of Greeks and Balkan Slavs.

5% is not the average actually for TURKS. But it could be the average for TURKEY. Turks often score a lot more than 5%.

https://bmcgenomics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2164-15-963
In this study for example Turks (Including one Kurd and one guy from Artvin) are between 5%-21.7% Asian
http://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1186%2F1471-2164-15-963/MediaObjects/12864_2014_Article_6660_Fig2_HTML.jpg


Turks from Aydın compared to Istanbul Turks and "National Average"
http://i61.tinypic.com/x5qqes.jpg
And about Western Turks scoring more Asiatic dna than other Turks, i really don't know. But as far as i know Mongols pushed Turkmen tribes to Western Anatolia from Eastern and Central Anatolia. Maybe that could be the reason.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?188673-Turkish-Autosomal-DNA-West-Central-and-East-Anatolian-Turks
In that link for example the most mongoloid Turk is from Western Turkey (Sakarya, 16-18% mongoloid). I think i have to read more about Turkish history to find out why Western Turks are more "pure" compared to other Turks.

Fedora
10-14-2017, 07:37 PM
Where is he from? Adiyaman? Most of the Turks there have meddish anatolid faces with some slight asian admix which gaves them a softer faces .


How would you classify the people in this video??? Iranid,Med with turanid admixture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iike1ml-a6s

Hudayar
10-14-2017, 07:50 PM
Where is he from? Adiyaman? Most of the Turks there have meddish anatolid faces with some slight asian admix which gaves them a softer faces .


How would you classify the people in this video??? Iranid,Med with turanid admixture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iike1ml-a6s

to be honest i'm not good at classifiying so i can't say anything

and no he's not from Adıyaman.

btw AFAIK Adıyaman is Kurdish-Turkish mixed city.


edit: i didn't watch the video, i said AFAIK Adıyaman (the city) is Kurdish-Turkish mixed.

Siberian Cold Breeze
10-14-2017, 08:19 PM
A friend of mine has just got results his third population match is Uzbek Tashkent .
We don't know what is sample population representing Uzbek Tashkent in Mdlp 23 (His first population distance is Azerbaycan )

Fedora
10-14-2017, 08:32 PM
A friend of mine has just got results his third population match is Uzbek Tashkent .
We don't know what is sample population representing Uzbek Tashkent in Mdlp 23 (His first population distance is Azerbaycan )His second match Kurd or Turk?

Hudayar
10-14-2017, 08:34 PM
A friend of mine has just got results his third population match is Uzbek Tashkent .
We don't know what is sample population representing Uzbek Tashkent in Mdlp 23 (His first population distance is Azerbaycan )

Uzbeks from Tashkent are just Tajiks imo.

Siberian Cold Breeze
10-14-2017, 08:46 PM
thanks .. :)
. where can we find MLDP reference groups ..

no , second match is not Kurd

Hudayar
10-14-2017, 08:59 PM
thanks .. :)
. where can we find MLDP reference groups ..

no , second match is not Kurd

there's a spreadsheet below Oracle-4 button
https://i.hizliresim.com/XEdvoo.png

Siberian Cold Breeze
10-14-2017, 09:09 PM
Yes we found spreadsheet but strangely Uzbek Tashkent is very different from other Uzbek, so we were confused .
thank you anyway

Fedora
10-14-2017, 10:48 PM
Yes we found spreadsheet but strangely Uzbek Tashkent is very different from other Uzbek, so we were confused .
thank you anywayErmeni mi ozaman -_-??