Old women are allowed to don't have tasattur in Islam

[itilvolga]

"And women of post-menstrual age who have no desire for marriage - there is no blame upon them for putting aside their outer garments [but] not displaying adornment. But to modestly refrain [from that] is better for them. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." (24:60)

but like that,
https://i.hizliresim.com/WGkajQ.jpg

not like that
https://i.hizliresim.com/4GrQ5q.jpg

[al-Bosni]

True. They are allowed to reveal some parts of their body, like their neck. But it is still better to refrain from it as Allah says.

[Petros Houhoulis]

"And women of post-menstrual age who have no desire for marriage - there is no blame upon them for putting aside their outer garments [but] not displaying adornment. But to modestly refrain [from that] is better for them. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." (24:60)

but like that,
https://i.hizliresim.com/WGkajQ.jpg

not like that
https://i.hizliresim.com/4GrQ5q.jpg

Do I have to assume now that this girl:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=18626&dateline=1507631377

...Is of post-menstrual age and has no desire for marriage?

Why aren't you a proper garbage bin like all pious Muslim girls?

http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/iamges/sub10/burq.jpg

[Sacrificed Ram]

In christianism is different. A man that looks with desire for a woman, he should throw out his eyes and cut off his dick. Christianism is a true religion for strongests. Islamism is for effeminates.

[al-Bosni]

In christianism is different. A man that looks with desire for a woman, he should throw out his eyes and cut off his dick. Christianism is a true religion for strongests. Islamism is for effeminates.
lol. That's like 99% of men. Everyone would be blind and without a private part.

[crazyladybutterfly]

lol. That's like 99% of men. Everyone would be blind and without a private part.

so when you look at a woman or better , in your case, a little girl you always think about sex? im not talking about a female in a suggestive pose or clothing but a girl/woman dressed normally and acting normally

[al-Bosni]

so when you look at a woman or better , in your case, a little girl you always think about sex? im not talking about a female in a suggestive pose or clothing but a girl/woman dressed normally and acting normally
No, not always. But it happens. Since you are asexual, you wouldn't understand.

[wvwvw]

In christianism is different. A man that looks with desire for a woman, he should throw out his eyes and cut off his dick. Christianism is a true religion for strongests. Islamism is for effeminates.

That's not what Christianity teaches at all.

The point of that parable was to make us realise that we are all sinful even though we don't realise it, and that Gods forgives our weaknesses as long as we acknowledge them and turn to him.

Christianity teaches to treat others as you'd treat yourself by emulating God's love for you. When you love people and wish them good, you don't cheat them, murder them, steal from them or covet their wives.

[itilvolga]

Do I have to assume now that this girl:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=18626&dateline=1507631377

...Is of post-menstrual age and has no desire for marriage?

Why aren't you a proper garbage bin like all pious Muslim girls?

http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/iamges/sub10/burq.jpg

Burqa, niqab is extreme clothes in Islam, also belong to Arabic culture that's why Turkic Muslims and Balkan Muslims etc don't wear it, hijab is enough for general tasattur rules. Also i have some reasons for it and also they are not your business, i accept all Islamic rules but i don't do one of them and it doesn't make me non Muslim, i am still a Muslim with some sins as other Muslims. Any new question??

[itilvolga]

In christianism is different. A man that looks with desire for a woman, he should throw out his eyes and cut off his dick. Christianism is a true religion for strongests. Islamism is for effeminates.

Same in Islam. Not only women, men should protect their chastity as women

[AphroditeWorshiper]

who cares?

[itilvolga]

who cares?

get lost then

[AphroditeWorshiper]

get lost then

ok

[Gangrel]

ok

this guys a fuckin weirdo

[Sacrificed Ram]

i accept all Islamic rules but i don't do one of them and it doesn't make me non Muslim, i am still a Muslim with some sins as other Muslims. Any new question??

Yes, sometimes I date men but it doesn't make me homosexual.

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Yes, sometimes I date men but it doesn't make me homosexual.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/466/626/c18.gif

[itilvolga]

Yes, sometimes I date men but it doesn't make me homosexual.

not same shit there is the concept of sin in christianity as well and literally same: you can be sinful but it doesn't mean that you are kicked from your religion just wth i accept that tassatur rule and also i respect hijabi girls a lot and support them forever, still i have some reasons for don't wear it

[Vyasa]

get lost then

you're kinda aggressive which is kinda hot

[Sacrificed Ram]

not same shit there is the concept of sin in christianity as well and literally same: you can be sinful but it doesn't mean that you are kicked from your religion just wth i accept that tassatur rule and also i respect hijabi girls a lot and support them forever, still i have some reasons for don't wear it

Kicked out? It is what christianism should be:



For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 1:26-32 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A26-32&version=KJV)

[al-Bosni]

...

[War Chef]

not like that
https://i.hizliresim.com/4GrQ5q.jpg

I absolutely detest (not hate) this type of woman in any age. It screams materialism & shallowness. You would think the older you get the more wise, but for some people they never grow.

[itilvolga]

Kicked out? It is what christianism should be:

k you will not understand me... believe whatever you want but there is same mentality between Christianity and Islam about this topic

[itilvolga]

I absolutely detest (not hate) this type of woman in any age. It screams materialism & shallowness. You would think the older you get the more wise, but for some people they never grow.

EXACTLY

[Luca]

Do I have to assume now that this girl:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=18626&dateline=1507631377

...Is of post-menstrual age and has no desire for marriage?

Why aren't you a proper garbage bin like all pious Muslim girls?

http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/iamges/sub10/burq.jpg

"And women of post-menstrual age who have no desire for marriage - there is no blame upon them for putting aside their outer garments [but] not displaying adornment. But to modestly refrain [from that] is better for them. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing."
Where does it say to cover the head?
It depends on interpretation what you cover up.

[Luca]

Kicked out? It is what christianism should be:

John 1:
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Everyone commits sin, and it is ok, as it is part of being human, as the bible even says


Burqa, niqab is extreme clothes in Islam, also belong to Arabic culture that's why Turkic Muslims and Balkan Muslims etc don't wear it, hijab is enough for general tasattur rules. Also i have some reasons for it and also they are not your business, i accept all Islamic rules but i don't do one of them and it doesn't make me non Muslim, i am still a Muslim with some sins as other Muslims. Any new question??

Those blue "burkas" are actually چادرى "Tschaderi" and do not belong to arab culture. They are persian (afghan) in origin and are only popular since the Taliban (the definition of extremists) took over.
So that also proofs your point.

[itilvolga]

John 1:
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Everyone commits sin, and it is ok, as it is part of being human, as the bible even says



Those blue "burkas" are actually چادرى "Tschaderi" and do not belong to arab culture. They are persian (afghan) in origin and are only popular since the Taliban (the definition of extremists) took over.
So that also proofs your point.

Also niqab is purely Arabic

This is ours, called as "yazma"
https://i.hizliresim.com/yz4aJk.jpg

[Luca]

Looks pretty moderate.
So further proof it's all just up to interpretation how much a women should cover up, before she is old.

[Morena]

I love sassy old ladies. The world would be a lesser place without them. Although I don't think I would be one myself.

[al-Bosni]

Also niqab is purely Arabic

This is ours, called as "yazma"
https://i.hizliresim.com/yz4aJk.jpg
Both Niqab and hijab is Islamic. As al-Albani said, the niqab is recommended and hijab is obligatory. Before Islam the pagans used to dance around the kaaba naked, men and women. Our mothers (wives of prophet :saw:) also wore the niqab.

[Oneeye]

Oh who fucking cares, ya judgmental twats?

[Wadaad]

Whether the niqab is Arab culture or not is irrelevant, as the prophet Muhammad SAAW mentioned it in name and thus is part of the islamic treasury. I don't mean that all women should wear niqab, but insulting or dismissing it is wrong. Never forget there were women wearing niqab around him SAAW.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Everyone commits sin, and it is ok, as it is part of being human, as the bible even says


Do you remember all your sins? Each one? Prepare to die!

How do confess a thing you don't remember...

[Mingle]

Those blue "burkas" are actually چادرى "Tschaderi" and do not belong to arab culture. They are persian (afghan) in origin and are only popular since the Taliban (the definition of extremists) took over.
So that also proofs your point.

They came to Afghanistan because of Islam. The chador is just a regional variant of the burqa or niqab (with some slight differences) which is Arab in origin. You won't find any face veils mentioned in pre-Islamic Iranic culture.

[al-Bosni]

"And women of post-menstrual age who have no desire for marriage - there is no blame upon them for putting aside their outer garments [but] not displaying adornment. But to modestly refrain [from that] is better for them. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." (24:60)

but like that,
https://i.hizliresim.com/WGkajQ.jpg

not like that
https://i.hizliresim.com/4GrQ5q.jpg
You are not an old woman. If you put on a hijab men wouldn't treat you like a slut.

[al-Bosni]

Also niqab is purely Arabic

This is ours, called as "yazma"
https://i.hizliresim.com/yz4aJk.jpg
Islam is not a turkish religion , this yazma is exposing the neck. The hijab is supposed to cover the neck according to hadith. You need to stop being nationalistic because the Prophet :saw: said that a beetle that rolls dung is better than you.

[Dandelion]

Islam is not a turkish religion , this yazma is exposing the neck. The hijab is supposed to cover the neck according to hadith. You need to stop being nationalistic because the Prophet :saw: said that a beetle that rolls dung is better than you.

She should look like a Pacman ghost, or she's doing something wrong.

[al-Bosni]

Itilvolga, go bite your fathers penis.

I'm only telling you this because that's what the Prophet :saw: said that I should tell nationalistic people that boast about ther lineage. (not that you have to literally do that). The fact that I told you to bite your father's penis is the punishment in and of itself.

The hadith is here you deviant little girl.

https://islamqa.info/en/121823

[al-Bosni]

"And women of post-menstrual age who have no desire for marriage - there is no blame upon them for putting aside their outer garments [but] not displaying adornment. But to modestly refrain [from that] is better for them. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing."
Where does it say to cover the head?
It depends on interpretation what you cover up.
Quranist such as Itilvolga may quote this verse to reject the hijab because she rejects the Sunnah (hadiths). But Sunnis have evidence from hadiths that hijab is Islamic.

[itilvolga]

Whether the niqab is Arab culture or not is irrelevant, as the prophet Muhammad SAAW mentioned it in name and thus is part of the islamic treasury. I don't mean that all women should wear niqab, but insulting or dismissing it is wrong. Never forget there were women wearing niqab around him SAAW.

I didn't insult niqab

[itilvolga]

Can someone say to this weirdo that he should leave here? Thanks

[itilvolga]

You are not an old woman. If you put on a hijab men wouldn't treat you like a slut.

hmmmm
https://i.hizliresim.com/LOQbZo.jpg

[al-Bosni]

Can someone say to this weirdo that he should leave here? Thanks
Lol. You said I was your grandfather's bitch. Are you mad because the Prophet :saw: literally said to go bite your father's penis to those that boast about their ansestors in an ignorant manner?

the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) instructed us: “If you hear someone boasting in an ignorant manner of his tribal lineage, then tell him to bite his father’s male member, and do not use a metaphor.”

Narrated by Ahmad (35/157); classed as hasan by the commentators on al-Musnad.

It was narrated from Ubayy (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man boasted of his tribal lineage, and Ubayy told him to bite his father’s male member, and they said: You were never given to obscene speech! He said: We were instructed to do that.

Narrated by Ahmad (35/142); classed as hasan by the commentators on al-Musnad and as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami‘.

https://islamqa.info/en/121823

[al-Bosni]

hmmmm
https://i.hizliresim.com/LOQbZo.jpg
Stop attacking Islam you Quranist donkey.

[Hadouken]

who cares?


get lost then


ok


this guys a fuckin weirdo


looool

[lameduck]

itilvoga's avi is very alluring lol, its very difficult to concentrate on posts.

[slave]

hmmmm
https://i.hizliresim.com/LOQbZo.jpg
al-Bosni is correct. Non-Muslims use this picture to mock the hijab or niqab. But one picture will not prove that Allah's words in the Quran are wrong. The point of the niqab is so women will not be abused.

Allah says in he Quran:

"O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused."

(33:59)

[itilvolga]

al-Bosni is correct. Non-Muslims use this picture to mock the hijab or niqab. But one picture will not prove that Allah's words in the Quran are wrong. The point of the niqab is so women will not be abused.

Allah says in he Quran:

"O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused."

(33:59)

I just wanted to show that if someone is pervert, even niqab can't protect you from his eyes. I am not against to tasattur, i also respect hijabi woman a lot, just i don't wear it but it doesn't make me Non-Muslim or smth like that. He can't call me as Non-Muslim because i don't wear hijab or he can't call me as Non-Sunni when i like a quote of Khalifa Ali. That's all

[Dandelion]

hmmmm
https://i.hizliresim.com/LOQbZo.jpg

Karim and Jahar.

[slave]

I just wanted to show that if someone is pervert, even niqab can't protect you from his eyes. I am not against to tasattur, i also respect hijabi woman a lot, just i don't wear it but it doesn't make me Non-Muslim or smth like that. He can't call me as Non-Muslim because i don't wear hijab or he can't call me as Non-Sunni when i like a quote of Khalifa Ali. That's all
He didn't call you a non-Muslim for not wearing a hijab. Or for quoting Ali. He said you are a non-Muslim for rejecting hadiths and being a quranist. That picture is very offensive to Sunni Muslims. It's pure propganda, just because some men looked behind them does not mean Allah is wrong, and also there is nothing sexual to look at when a woman is covered in loose black niqab.

[Luca]

Do you remember all your sins? Each one? Prepare to die!

How do confess a thing you don't remember...

If you do not remember a sin, then it is not worthy of being a sin.
Sins are things that create unrest in the society. If you do not remember it, then it did not affect society, so it is not bad.
Ofc this is very simplified, but just think about why Allah should create sins? Why are you not allowed to steal? Why cannot you take another mans wife? Even masturbation is a sin, as it unbalances the hormones in your body and Allah knew.
So these things are sins/haram out of that reason. Anything else, I cannot see reason why Allah would make it a sin.

[itilvolga]

He didn't call you a non-Muslim for not wearing a hijab. Or for quoting Ali. He said you are a non-Muslim for rejecting hadiths and being a quranist. That picture is very offensive to Sunni Muslims. It's pure propganda, just because some men looked behind them does not mean Allah is wrong, and also there is nothing sexual to look at when a woman is covered in loose black niqab.

Listen, it didn't happen in this thread, in his own thread he clearly said it like im non-sunni even non-muslim because i called him as deviant and pedophile. He supports to marrying and any sexual things with 6-8 years old girls and call other guys as gay because they don't agree with him. I am not against tasattur and i have never said that Qur'an has smth wrong etc i also said i am a sinful Muslim because i don't wear hijab but it doesn't make me Non-Muslim and i liked a quote about lifestyle of Khalifa Ali from a shia book and it doesn't make me Non-Sunni.

[slave]

Listen, it didn't happen in this thread, in his own thread he clearly said it like im non-sunni even non-muslim because i called him as deviant and pedophile. He supports to marrying and any sexual things with 6-8 years old girls and call other guys as gay because they don't agree with him. I am not against tasattur and i have never said that Qur'an has smth wrong etc i also said i am a sinful Muslim because i don't wear hijab but it doesn't make me Non-Muslim and i liked a quote about lifestyle of Khalifa Ali from a shia book and it doesn't make me Non-Sunni.
Im reading his posts. It has nothing to do with hijab or ali, It's because you are a hadith rejector so he calls you quranist, a non-sunni, non-muslim. I agree with him that a father can marry off his 6 year old daughter. And the messenger (saw) married Aisha when she was 6. You shouldn't call Muslims deviant because they are following their books.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Burqa, niqab is extreme clothes in Islam, also belong to Arabic culture that's why Turkic Muslims and Balkan Muslims etc don't wear it, hijab is enough for general tasattur rules. Also i have some reasons for it and also they are not your business, i accept all Islamic rules but i don't do one of them and it doesn't make me non Muslim, i am still a Muslim with some sins as other Muslims. Any new question??

Your only sin is your stupidity. You don't know all Islamic rules, because nobody agrees on them. Nevertheless...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J5bDhMP9lQ