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monfret
10-10-2017, 06:16 PM
This statement in the Qu´ran definetely proves its manmade-demonic origin and not coming from alHaqq.


And it is He who has released [simultaneously] the two seas, one fresh and sweet and one salty and bitter, and He placed between them a barrier and prohibiting partition.


He released the two seas, meeting [side by side];

55:20

Between them is a barrier [so] neither of them transgresses.

this is completely false.You will see muslim videos online showing salt water not mixing with salt water due to different concentrations.but its a basic law of physics that salt and sweet water are misicble fluids.period.
Salt Wedges
http://www.coastalwiki.org/wiki/Salt_wedge_estuaries

Partially Mixed estuaries
http://omp.gso.uri.edu/ompweb/doee/science/descript/partmix.htm



Vertically homogenous Estuaries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estuarine_water_circulation#Vertically_homogeneous _estuary´


https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brackish_water


Brackish water (less commonly brack water) is salt water and fresh water mixed together. It is saltier than fresh water, but not as salty as seawater. It may result from mixing of seawater with fresh water, as in estuaries, or it may occur in brackish fossil aquifers.


The most important brackish water habitats are estuaries, where a river meets the sea, mixing salt and fresh water. The River Thames flowing through London is one of the most familiar of river estuaries.

tahir0010
10-12-2017, 02:46 AM
The fact that the Quran mentions this without the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ever seeing it proves that it is proof it comes from Allah. What about the whole process of the embryo being formed in the stomach. What about the fact that the Quran states during the time of Yusuf the king of Egypt was not a Pharaoh but was Aziz he was a king. It makes the distinction between King and Pharaoh during the time of Joseph. The bible does not make this distinction as it claims that the person ruling Egypt at this time was a Pharaoh so if the Bible was the true word of God it would make the distincation as there is a big difference between a king and a Pharaoh and we cannot doubt that if the bible was truth there would not be contradictions in the time of Jesus crucifixion which in the bible it says 3 times all which are distinctly different from each other. So thus proving the bible is man made. The Quran has more miracles also saying that the Pharaoh was drowned, which some people say the body on display was drowned one French professor took a look at this, and said in fact it seems the Pharaoh in Egypt was drowned, and now travels the world. This was also a sign in the Quran. The bible says that he was washed away Where the bible does not actually state if Pharaoh drowned but the Pharaoh that travels the earth has been proved to have died from drowning. This is another truth that the Quran is from Allah.

Arduti
10-12-2017, 03:30 AM
This statement in the Qu´ran definetely proves its manmade-demonic origin and not coming from alHaqq.

You don't determine truth.
You don't understand the Quran.

This Surah is very much like the beginning of Beresheit and the story of the Lord's 6 days (6 phases) of earthly Creations.
To properly observe Shabbat, the day of rest (phase of rest), humans must not to alter the Lord's previous 6 days of Creation.

As in Beresheit, the Lord is warning people not to clear the barriers between the seas. Not to alter the course of the waters and lands artificially...
I don't know what you are talking about, brackish water and stuff.

Petros Houhoulis
10-13-2017, 12:00 AM
The fact that the Quran mentions this without the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ever seeing it proves that it is proof it comes from Allah.

I can also talk to you about Mongolia without to have ever seen it. Where does this come from?


What about the whole process of the embryo being formed in the stomach.

Have you ever heard of Galen? Did you ever realize that the quran makes the same mistakes about embryology that Galen did?

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Embryology_in_the_Quran


What about the fact that the Quran states during the time of Yusuf the king of Egypt was not a Pharaoh but was Aziz he was a king. It makes the distinction between King and Pharaoh during the time of Joseph.

There was neither an Aziz nor a Yusuf as an Egyptian pharaoh or Roman ruler of Egypt. You've clearly lost the plot.


The bible does not make this distinction as it claims that the person ruling Egypt at this time was a Pharaoh

No, it doesn't. The folks who wrote the bible were aware that the Romans ruled, hence Pontius Pilatus...


so if the Bible was the true word of God it would make the distincation as there is a big difference between a king and a Pharaoh

It's just a different name for the same function. Emperor is another word, Basileus is another, Rex is one more, Ceasar is also used which gave rise to the Slavic Czars and so on...


and we cannot doubt that if the bible was truth there would not be contradictions in the time of Jesus crucifixion which in the bible it says 3 times all which are distinctly different from each other.

First of all the contradictions in the bible are well known and there has been an attempt to "fix" the problem at least since the diatessaron. The church claims that the gospels were inspired by god but written by men who were fallible, and they made human errors. Similar problems in the quran cannot be fixed because Mohammad claimed that he received the quran directly from archangel Gabriel...


So thus proving the bible is man made.

Everybody knows that the bible is man made. The quran is no different.


The Quran has more miracles also saying that the Pharaoh was drowned, which some people say the body on display was drowned one French professor took a look at this, and said in fact it seems the Pharaoh in Egypt was drowned, and now travels the world.

All of this is conjecture. There is no evidence of a drowned Pharaoh whatsoever, although the Egyptian sources would not be likely to mention anything like that. In any case, the "parting of the waters" story probably refers to a tsunami which would not have drowned many people in Egypt, since the vast majority of the Egyptians lived off the Nile and not by trade near the seas.


This was also a sign in the Quran. The bible says that he was washed away Where the bible does not actually state if Pharaoh drowned but the Pharaoh that travels the earth has been proved to have died from drowning. This is another truth that the Quran is from Allah.

All of your claims are nonsense.

Petros Houhoulis
10-13-2017, 12:01 AM
You don't determine truth.
You don't understand the Quran.

This Surah is very much like the beginning of Beresheit and the story of the Lord's 6 days (6 phases) of earthly Creations.
To properly observe Shabbat, the day of rest (phase of rest), humans must not to alter the Lord's previous 6 days of Creation.

As in Beresheit, the Lord is warning people not to clear the barriers between the seas. Not to alter the course of the waters and lands artificially...
I don't know what you are talking about, brackish water and stuff.

In that case, Allah is an idiot because the Suez and Panama and Corinth canals are very useful. Humans managed to outperform the divine, and not only in that aspect...

Arduti
10-13-2017, 12:47 AM
In that case, Allah is an idiot because the Suez and Panama and Corinth canals are very useful. Humans managed to outperform the divine, and not only in that aspect...

This is exactly what people at Babel said.

Petros Houhoulis
10-13-2017, 11:24 AM
This is exactly what people at Babel said.

How do you know what they said? You were there to listen to them?

In any case, do you have a brain? What harm do those canals bring? Can you elaborate, and leave your "god" aside?

monfret
10-14-2017, 01:01 PM
You don't determine truth.
You don't understand the Quran.

This Surah is very much like the beginning of Beresheit and the story of the Lord's 6 days (6 phases) of earthly Creations.
To properly observe Shabbat, the day of rest (phase of rest), humans must not to alter the Lord's previous 6 days of Creation.

As in Beresheit, the Lord is warning people not to clear the barriers between the seas. Not to alter the course of the waters and lands artificially...
I don't know what you are talking about, brackish water and stuff.

The quran makes a clear claim that sweet and salt water do not mix.this is proven false.hence the quran is manmade.

monfret
10-14-2017, 01:06 PM
The fact that the Quran mentions this without the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ever seeing it proves that it is proof it comes from Allah. What about the whole process of the embryo being formed in the stomach. What about the fact that the Quran states during the time of Yusuf the king of Egypt was not a Pharaoh but was Aziz he was a king. It makes the distinction between King and Pharaoh during the time of Joseph. The bible does not make this distinction as it claims that the person ruling Egypt at this time was a Pharaoh so if the Bible was the true word of God it would make the distincation as there is a big difference between a king and a Pharaoh and we cannot doubt that if the bible was truth there would not be contradictions in the time of Jesus crucifixion which in the bible it says 3 times all which are distinctly different from each other. So thus proving the bible is man made. The Quran has more miracles also saying that the Pharaoh was drowned, which some people say the body on display was drowned one French professor took a look at this, and said in fact it seems the Pharaoh in Egypt was drowned, and now travels the world. This was also a sign in the Quran. The bible says that he was washed away Where the bible does not actually state if Pharaoh drowned but the Pharaoh that travels the earth has been proved to have died from drowning. This is another truth that the Quran is from Allah.

there are no contradictions in the gospel timings http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=6&article=4759