Classify Me

[Jennifer]

https://imgur.com/a/dcZgO

https://imgur.com/a/5mdcN

https://imgur.com/a/pbdnc

I have a Scottish surname and my mom's maiden name is German. Both my parents identify as white Americans but neither knows their ancestry in any kind of depth. I have never had a genetic test done.

EDIT: Just adding some due to comments received.

https://imgur.com/a/Zoxke

https://imgur.com/a/9WLg6

https://imgur.com/a/07gdA

https://imgur.com/a/kexXV

https://imgur.com/a/goaJl

https://imgur.com/a/xyZYO

https://imgur.com/a/G2ZEs

https://imgur.com/a/8ENk3

https://imgur.com/a/jqxEi

[Odin]

Alpine. Pretty. :wink

[Wilhelm O.]

Just a heads up, it would be much, much easier if you posed with your hair tied back, a neutral expression and no make up in semi-good lighting. It's hard to tell otherwise and people who will try to tell otherwise will give you bad classifications.

[Jennifer]

Ok. Some more pics to help.

https://imgur.com/a/Zoxke

https://imgur.com/a/9WLg6

https://imgur.com/a/07gdA

https://imgur.com/a/kexXV

https://imgur.com/a/goaJl

https://imgur.com/a/xyZYO

[Jennifer]

Just a heads up, it would be much, much easier if you posed with your hair tied back, a neutral expression and no make up in semi-good lighting. It's hard to tell otherwise and people who will try to tell otherwise will give you bad classifications.

Do the second set help?

[RN97]

No way you're fully European bruv

[Jennifer]

No way you're fully European bruv

What do you think I am?

[RN97]

What do you think I am?

I'd guess something latina TBH. Like mostly European with some SSA and perhaps a smidgen of Amerindian.

[Jennifer]

I'd guess something latina TBH. Like mostly European with some SSA and perhaps a smidgen of Amerindian.

What do you see that's SSA? Not trying to argue. Just trying to see what you're seeing.

[Wilhelm O.]

Agreed with RN97, SSA is there.

EDIT: The eye shape and nose. Although your nose isn't particulary wide, the nostrils are quite far apart, full Europeans don't have that. Also near-black eye color is simply not present in fully European populations, usually MENA admixture, this might be part of the SSA here though. Do you straighten your hair?

[Argentano]

looks like a puerto rican

[Jennifer]

Agreed with RN97, SSA is there.

May I ask what specifically?

[Wilhelm O.]

May I ask what specifically?

Check out the edit.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Kristin Kreuk, are you?

Alpine + something exotic (asian/NA?)

[RN97]

What do you see that's SSA? Not trying to argue. Just trying to see what you're seeing.

Well I'd say something about your pigmentation mainly. You skull shape and nose is mainly caucasoid, but there are just subtle hints overall. I guess a overall "vibe". Your nasal bridge is somewhat flattened, your nostrils don't seem to fully have the "tear-drop" shape and your mouth region (although not impossible to find) seems a bit rare among Europeans.

[Jennifer]

Agreed with RN97, SSA is there.

EDIT: The eye shape and nose. Although your nose isn't particulary wide, the nostrils are quite far apart, full Europeans don't have that. Also near-black eye color is simply not present in fully European populations, usually MENA admixture, this might be part of the SSA here though. Do you straighten your hair?

Sometimes. My hair is natural here

https://imgur.com/a/kexXV

and here

https://imgur.com/a/xyZYO

[Herr Abubu]

mexican

[Wilhelm O.]

your nostrils don't seem to fully have the "tear-drop" shape.

That's what a tear drop shape is, A and B examples, pretty comically drawn, but it shows the difference in the nostril base.
https://www.google.pl/search?q=tear+drop+nostril+shape&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiu4K7Wi-zWAhWHXhQKHZ-VBVUQ_AUICigB&biw=2544&bih=968#imgdii=5LRJHlYjOaDDKM:&imgrc=eB6p0pHhaWMoTM:

[Jennifer]

That's what a tear drop shape is, A and B examples, pretty comically drawn, but it shows the difference in the nostril base.
https://www.google.pl/search?q=tear+drop+nostril+shape&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiu4K7Wi-zWAhWHXhQKHZ-VBVUQ_AUICigB&biw=2544&bih=968#imgdii=5LRJHlYjOaDDKM:&imgrc=eB6p0pHhaWMoTM:

I can sorta see that.

[Gangrel]

Alpine with something exotic, QT

[Sikeliot]

I see African influence (black/SSA), and not a small amount. 25%+.

[Decius]

What do you see that's SSA? Not trying to argue. Just trying to see what you're seeing.

What is youre background in Europe

[RN97]

That's what a tear drop shape is, A and B examples, pretty comically drawn, but it shows the difference in the nostril base.
https://www.google.pl/search?q=tear+drop+nostril+shape&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiu4K7Wi-zWAhWHXhQKHZ-VBVUQ_AUICigB&biw=2544&bih=968#imgdii=5LRJHlYjOaDDKM:&imgrc=eB6p0pHhaWMoTM:

In that picture, it's a and b. In Europids/ caucasoids the end/ root of the columella is higher than the alar facial groove. It creates a "tear drop like" shape.
Eurpid:
https://i.imgur.com/jtgUSTr.jpg
mongoloid:
https://i.imgur.com/ge9PyzB.jpg
compare the Europid to a teardrop and you'll see what I mean.
https://i.imgur.com/VMSyQFt.png

[Decius]

I see SSA influence like 10% SSA

[Jennifer]

What is youre background in Europe

I don't really know. Like I said in the first post, "I have a Scottish surname and my mom's maiden name is German. Both my parents identify as white Americans but neither knows their ancestry in any kind of depth. I have never had a genetic test done."

[Decius]

I don't really know. Like I said in the first post, "I have a Scottish surname and my mom's maiden name is German. Both my parents identify as white Americans but neither knows their ancestry in any kind of depth. I have never had a genetic test done."

You should do a DNA test youre phenotype looks Mostly white but I see a signifigant amount of African (SSA) influence maybe like 10-20%

[Jennifer]

You should do a DNA test youre phenotype looks Mostly white but I see a signifigant amount of African (SSA) influence maybe like 10-20%

I probably will in the relatively near future.

[magyar_lány]

You look a bit Afro.

[Token]

Mixed. Mostly European with some SSA, probably around 20%.

[Jennifer]

Added a poll, just to see.

[Jennifer]

Mixed. Mostly European with some SSA, probably around 20%.

That sounds like a lot.

[Antimage]

. People are saying they see african and amerind in you but if you tell me you did a dna test and you turned out to be 100% euro I'd believe you. You look racially ambiguous and white passing to me

[Decius]

That sounds like a lot.

Its more like 10%, On youre poll I voted Peurto Rico and Mexico. You couldnt pass in most of Italy but you could pass in Sicily

[Wilhelm O.]

. People are saying they see african and amerind in you but if you tell me you did a dna test and you turned out to be 100% euro I'd believe you. You look racially ambiguous and white passing to me

Well, for OP to be fully German/Scottish some of these traits would have to be a random genetic throw back all the way back in the time before the Ice Age. And not the last one but the one before that. I don't really think it's possible.

[Token]

That sounds like a lot.

Not really a lot but it's a percentage sufficient to influence someone's phenotype. Maybe it's just the angle of the camera or the make-up, for a proper classification you need to take neutral frontal and side pics without any effects.

[Jennifer]

Not really a lot but it's a percentage sufficient to influence someone's phenotype. Maybe it's just the angle of the camera or the make-up, for a proper classification you need to take neutral frontal and side pics without any effects.

Did you look at the second set? Maybe I should add it to the first post.

[StonyArabia]

looks mostly European with slight African admix, Alpine with some minor African admix

[Token]

Did you look at the second set? Maybe I should add it to the first post.

Yes, i looked. There's a particular picture where you look Alpinid and fully European but in the others i can see significant SSA influence.

[Sikeliot]

Maybe I overestimated the amount of African, but I definitely think it has to be 1/8 or more. My great grandmother was 1/8 African and she looked less mixed than you.

[Jennifer]

Yes, i looked. There's a particular picture where you look Alpinid and fully European but in the others i can see significant SSA influence.

Which one?

[Antimage]

IF you want a real classification, then do a dna test.

[Token]

Which one?

This (https://imgur.com/a/xyZYO). You look Alpinid in this pic.

[Jennifer]

This (https://imgur.com/a/xyZYO). You look Alpinid in this pic.

That's from a little over a decade ago. I'm 13 there.

[Bolsonaro2018]

Try to get a 23andMe kit, since you live in US it is easier, they do genetic tests in your country.

[Kitkouach]

U look ambiguous.
But more like a darker european actually. The make up may enforce the "exotic" vibe IMO.

[Jennifer]

Try to get a 23andMe kit, since you live in US it is easier, they do genetic tests in your country.

Yeah, I am planning on doing that now. We'll see how close it is to what people on here are thinking. Still find the comments interesting.

[Token]

That's from a little over a decade ago. I'm 13 there.

I see. Like i said, you can try to post more neutral front and side pics in moderate light or just do a genetic test but you probably have some significant African ancestry.

[Bet012]

To me you look like an Harniza Mexican Alpine/med and Margid.

[Tobi]

You do look more brazilian than me. SSA is visible.

[Sikeliot]

My guess is one of your grandparents is mixed race but passing as white, and the mixed ancestry comes out in you but not your parents.

[Jennifer]

My guess is one of your grandparents is mixed race but passing as white, and the mixed ancestry comes out in you but not your parents.

You've never seen my parents.

[Sikeliot]

You've never seen my parents.

Yes, but based on your comment in your first post, it was implied that you did not know of any mixture: if one of your parents was blatantly mixed race, you would likely be sure of your background/there would be less unknown. Do you see what I mean?

[Sebastianus Rex]

You don't know your grand-parents ? Are they fully white ? I would guess 10%+ SSA admixture.

[Jennifer]

Yes, but based on your comment in your first post, it was implied that you did not know of any mixture: if one of your parents was blatantly mixed race, you would likely be sure of your background/there would be less unknown. Do you see what I mean?

My mom looks just like me. No pictures of dad on hand.

https://imgur.com/a/KncOs

https://imgur.com/a/4wbd9

[Odin]

My mom looks just like me.

Your mom is Quadroon.

[Jennifer]

You don't know your grand-parents ? Are they fully white ? I would guess 10%+ SSA admixture.

I knew three of them. Fully, I don't know. They never struck me as anything else or described themselves as anything else.

[Token]

My mom looks just like me. No pictures of dad on hand.

She looks mixed too.

[Jennifer]

Your mom is Quadroon.

Making me an octoroon?

[Gangrel]

My mom looks just like me. No pictures of dad on hand.

https://imgur.com/a/KncOs

https://imgur.com/a/4wbd9

I assume your dad is heavily European looking, your mother looks very mixed.

[Trilecce]

Alpine. Pretty. :wink

Dude, ive seen you rate top class woman as fives, and then you turn around and call this multiracial woman alpine and pretty???

[Odin]

Making me an octoroon?

Yea, you seriously thought she was white? :rolleyes:

[Sikeliot]

My mom looks just like me. No pictures of dad on hand.

https://imgur.com/a/KncOs

https://imgur.com/a/4wbd9


She looks exactly like Jennifer lopez when she was young. I would guess she does have African in her :)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/97/58/32/975832114a67296c465067ff19da44f3.jpg

[Odin]

Dude, ive seen you rate top class woman as fives, and then you turn around and call this multiracial woman alpine and pretty???

She is American.

[Jennifer]

She looks exactly like Jennifer lopez when she was young. I would guess she does have African in her :)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/97/58/32/975832114a67296c465067ff19da44f3.jpg

Lopez seems to have much more pointed chin, though. Does that matter?

[Trilecce]

...

You have a whiff of all the major races of the early americas. Mestiza/Mulatta with a mestiza dominance. Tell us, what colour is your outer labia? We need to know this for proper classification.

[Jennifer]

Yea, you seriously thought she was white? :rolleyes:

Yeah. I never really thought about it until fairly recently. It's how I heard her described.

[Odin]

It's how I heard her described.

Interesting.

[Sikeliot]

Lopez seems to have much more pointed chin, though. Does that matter?

The eyes and hair are very similar, as is the overall look, even if some of the features differ.

[Jennifer]

You have a whiff of all the major races of the early americas. Mestiza/Mulatta with a mestiza dominance. Tell us, what colour is your outer labia? We need to know this for proper classification.

Sort of reddish brown. A bit darker than the rest of my skin. But you'll have to take my word for it.

[Ranger0075]

Yeah. I never really thought about it until fairly recently. It's how I heard her described.

Are you from California? I think they consider some mixed persons as white there, not sure tho.

[Jennifer]

Interesting.

Not really. Most Americans don't second guess self-identification. At least not to your face.

[Jennifer]

Are you from California? I think they consider some mixed persons as white there, not sure tho.

I am from the southeast.

[Diocleatian204]

I'd guess something latina TBH. Like mostly European with some SSA and perhaps a smidgen of Amerindian.

Latinas are Mostly Black and Brown, only a large minority are White.

She Looks more Southern European and North African. i'd Say Spaniard, Portuguese, Moroccan, Algerian, Tunisian, Libyan, Italian and Greek.

[Odin]

Most Americans don't second guess self-identification. At least not to your face.

Southeast? As in Miami? That explains it.

[Impaler]

Your mother reminds me a bit of Janet Jackson.

[Jennifer]

Southeast? As in Miami? That explains it.

As in between Virginia and Georgia. I don't want to be more specific when I already shared like a thousand personal pics.

[la bombe]

You remind me of my sister who is 1/2 black on her fathers side and 1/4 English and 1/4 Mexican in our mother’s side

http://i65.tinypic.com/2q9jse0.jpg

[Token]

Latinas are Mostly Black and Brown, only a large minority are White.
She Looks more Southern European and North African. i'd Say Spaniard, Portuguese, Moroccan, Algerian, Tunisian, Libyan, Italian and Greek.
Don't lump Southern Europeans with North Africans, they aren't similar.

[Trilecce]

Sort of reddish brown. A bit darker than the rest of my skin. But you'll have to take my word for it.

Reddish? I dont think you have any significant SSA ancestry if thats the case. Id say your a Mestiza, a pretty one indeed.

Are you going to reveal your ancestry at the end of the thread?

[Odin]

As in between Virginia and Georgia.

Your mom can't pass as white in Cali though.

[Bolsonaro2018]

Southeast? As in Miami? That explains it.

I doubt it, state like Florida even white latin americans folks like white Cubans and Argentinians are not part of the said whites groups, only german and british americans far I know.

[Odin]

I doubt it, state like Florida even white latin americans like white Cubans and Argentinians are not part of the considered white group, only german and british americans far I know.

She said her mom is seen as white there, so I assumed she might be Cuban lol.

[Arduti]

Tunisian vibe

[Jennifer]

Reddish? I dont think you have any significant SSA ancestry if thats the case. Id say your a Mestiza, a pretty one indeed.

Are you going to reveal your ancestry at the end of the thread?

Reddish brown. And I don't know any more than I've said. In a few months, when I've taken the test and gotten it back, I'll share. And than kyou.

[Bolsonaro2018]

She said her mom is seen as white there, so I assumed she might be Cuban lol.

I said it because I know hispanics are on average 85% european according genetic tests in Florida, meanwhile places like Texas, New Mexico or California they are on average 50~60%, therefore Florida's stats shows a very high component even for the most europeanicized latin american countries.

[Jennifer]

Your mom can't pass as white in Cali though.

It might be harder in Cali. There's a spectrum there. Where I went to school, they pretty much sorted you into white and black. Or maybe they just thought it was polite. With how obvious it seems to all of you guys, I'm wondering now what was said behind our backs.

[Odin]

I said it because I know hispanics are on average 85% european according genetic tests in Florida, meanwhile places like Texas, New Mexico or California they are on average 50~60%, therefore Florida's stats shows a very high component even for the most europeanicized latin american countries.

I don't think she is mestiza, but I have seen Cubans who look like her.

[Bolsonaro2018]

Reddish brown. And I don't know any more than I've said. In a few months, when I've taken the test and gotten it back, I'll share. And than kyou.

Do it.

I remember a guy in this forum that looks central asian like turkomenistani and he got 97% european on his test. It is the best move to do, please dont forget us when you get in your results. Thx in advance.

[Odin]

Or maybe they just thought it was polite. With how obvious it seems to all of you guys, I'm wondering now what was said behind our backs.

I am sure they were polite with your family.

[Jennifer]

I am sure they were polite with your family.

It's not like it came up that much or anything hinged on it. A few casual references over the years.

[Sebastianus Rex]

I knew three of them. Fully, I don't know. They never struck me as anything else or described themselves as anything else.

I've just saw your mother, she's obviously mixed/part black and anyone can see that. So I will assume you are trolling.

[Jennifer]

I've just saw your mother, she's obviously mixed/part black and anyone can see that. So I will assume you are trolling.

In the second pic, she looks almost exactly like me.

[alnortedelsur]

Could pass as Mexican or Puerto Rican, but even better as Puerto Rican, since I see some obvious SSA mixture in your phenotype.

NO WAY would pass in Scottland, Germany, Italy, or anywhere in Europe. No even remotely, lol

[Jennifer]

Could pass as Mexican or Puerto Rican, but even better as Puerto Rican, since I see some obvious SSA mixture in your phenotype.

Noses, eyes, and lips? That's what other people have said.

[alnortedelsur]

Noses, eyes, and lips? That's what other people have said.

Nose, mouth, and your face in general.

[Jennifer]

I've just saw your mother, she's obviously mixed/part black and anyone can see that. So I will assume you are trolling.

Look, I'm not trying to prove some point about race being a social construct or to trick anyone into thinking the wrong thing and then pull out the real answer. If I were, I've failed already anyway. If you want to take it as Americans being race-ignorant or people deluding themselves and others, that's fine. But this really is how my family was described to me growing up. It's pretty obviously false at this point and I had my suspicions before. I did start the thread for a reason. Oh, well.

[JMack]

You look like the average mixed person where I live. You would never pass as white here. If you say you are white people will laugh at you.

I agree with Sebastianus, I think you're trolling. Around 20% SSA.

[Decius]

Could pass as Mexican or Puerto Rican, but even better as Puerto Rican, since I see some obvious SSA mixture in your phenotype.

NO WAY would pass in Scottland, Germany, Italy, or anywhere in Europe. No even remotely, lol

She might pass in Sicily

[Jennifer]

You look like the average mixed person where I live. You would never pass as white here. If you say you are white people will laugh at you.

I agree with Sebastianus, I think you're trolling. Around 20% SSA.

See the reply I just made him.

[JMack]

She might pass in Sicily

I don't think so.

This is typical Sicilian look:

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Maria+Grazia+Cucinotta+12th+Malaga+Film+Festival+0 tmtusBC3tWl.jpg

http://www.globusmagazine.it/_/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/sciacca-Fabio.png

[alnortedelsur]

You look like the average mixed person where I live. You would never pass as white here. If you say you are white people will laugh at you.

I agree with Sebastianus, I think you're trolling. Around 20% SSA.

She also looks like many mixed Venezuelans who are predominately Euro but look obviously very mixed with black and Amerindian, and claim to be white, but don't pass as it.

[Token]

You look like the average mixed person where I live. You would never pass as white here. If you say you are white people will laugh at you.

I agree with Sebastianus, I think you're trolling. Around 20% SSA.

In what region you live? Here she would be considered pardo by everyone.

[Decius]

I don't think so.

This is typical Sicilian look:

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Maria+Grazia+Cucinotta+12th+Malaga+Film+Festival+0 tmtusBC3tWl.jpg

http://www.globusmagazine.it/_/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/sciacca-Fabio.png

She wouldnt pass as typical but atypical in Southern Sicily

[JMack]

She also looks like many mixed Venezuelans who are predominately Euro but look obviously very mixed with black and Amerindian, and claim to be white, but don't pass as it.


In what region you live? Here she would be considered pardo by everyone.

Southeast. The same thing here. No one would consider her white. I have seen even people who look 100x more white than her being called non-white because they were olive-skinned (and they are probably full white). No way Americans believe this girl is white, it's nonsense.

[Iloko]

Mexican.

Alpine + Amerindian w/ some minor Med & some minor West African

also w/ a slight Middle Eastern vibe going on

[Decius]

Southeast. The same thing here. No one would consider her white. I have seen even people who look 100x more white than her being called non-white because they were olive-skinned (and they are probably full white). No way Americans believe this girl is white, it's nonsense.

She would easily be mistaken for a light hispanic

[Sikeliot]

I don't think so.

This is typical Sicilian look:

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Maria+Grazia+Cucinotta+12th+Malaga+Film+Festival+0 tmtusBC3tWl.jpg

http://www.globusmagazine.it/_/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/sciacca-Fabio.png


I agree she would not pass in Sicily but that is not really the typical look. More like the second from left for women:

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22219838_1764761120223177_8765473833736855360_o.jp g?oh=8588dcadd9122b8bcd4eca174d9c4a29&oe=5A41D610



and for men maybe this:

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22135759_1764760076889948_4059466409254012624_o.jp g?oh=012b637b4978f32819f3e52b8420ca6a&oe=5A7EE8AE

[JMack]

She would easily be mistaken for a light hispanic

She looks Puerto Rican to me.

[Sikeliot]

I don't think she is trying to be trolling or malicious. I think she might have actually not known her mother is mixed -- granted, I do not understand how one could not notice it, but maybe some people don't. People shouldn't be so rude on here.

[Demon Revival]

Reddish? I dont think you have any significant SSA ancestry if thats the case. Id say your a Mestiza, a pretty one indeed.

Are you going to reveal your ancestry at the end of the thread?

She doesn't look mestiza, like at all.

I'd say she's a rather light Lousiana creole or something like that. Maybe around 20% SSA or a bit more.

She looks like a Dominican poster from the previous years or so: vibrant_

[Decius]

I agree she would not pass in Sicily but that is not really the typical look. More like the second from left for women:

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22219838_1764761120223177_8765473833736855360_o.jp g?oh=8588dcadd9122b8bcd4eca174d9c4a29&oe=5A41D610



and for men maybe this:

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22135759_1764760076889948_4059466409254012624_o.jp g?oh=012b637b4978f32819f3e52b8420ca6a&oe=5A7EE8AE

do you think she could pass in Southern Sicily as very atypical

[Sikeliot]

do you think she could pass in Southern Sicily as very atypical

No, she looks obviously mixed-race to me.

[Decius]

No, she looks obviously mixed-race to me.

Could she pass as North African then and yes the SSA is a signifigant influence in her clearly like 10-15%

[Jennifer]

Southeast. The same thing here. No one would consider her white. I have seen even people who look 100x more white than her being called non-white because they were olive-skinned (and they are probably full white). No way Americans believe this girl is white, it's nonsense.

Ok. Maybe other people didn't always accept it and maybe sometimes, even when they didn't say anything, I wondered. Maybe there was stuff in my family that was pointedly not talked about. Maybe I always thought they were ignorant and just didn't know any better. Maybe I posted on here because I thought people who paid attention to the details would tell me what my parents had told me was true after all and the people around me were just ignorant. Maybe I wasn't totally surprised when the opposite happened.

Ok. I wasn't forthright about how I passed where I'm from. I did mostly hang with the white girls rather than the black girls but they always treated me a little different and I couldn't stand it. Trolling is harsh. I do really want to know what people think and I really don't know the right answer, although I'm becoming increasingly sure.

[Sikeliot]

Ok. Maybe other people didn't always accept it and maybe sometimes, even when they didn't say anything, I wondered. Maybe there was stuff in my family that was pointedly not talked about. Maybe I always thought they were ignorant and just didn't know any better. Maybe I posted on here because I thought people who paid attention to the details would tell me what my parents had told me was true after all and the people around me were just ignorant. Maybe I wasn't totally surprised when the opposite happened.

Ok. I wasn't forthright about how I passed where I'm from. I did mostly hang with the white girls rather than the black girls but they always treated me a little different and I couldn't stand it. Trolling is harsh. I do really want to know what people think and I really don't know the right answer, although I'm becoming increasingly sure.


Did anyone ever say to you that you were black/your mother looked mixed/etc? I would imagine people noticed but didn't bring it up if they figured it was not something you openly claimed.

[Decius]

Ok. Maybe other people didn't always accept it and maybe sometimes, even when they didn't say anything, I wondered. Maybe there was stuff in my family that was pointedly not talked about. Maybe I always thought they were ignorant and just didn't know any better. Maybe I posted on here because I thought people who paid attention to the details would tell me what my parents had told me was true after all and the people around me were just ignorant. Maybe I wasn't totally surprised when the opposite happened.

Ok. I wasn't forthright about how I passed where I'm from. I did mostly hang with the white girls rather than the black girls but they always treated me a little different and I couldn't stand it. Trolling is harsh. I do really want to know what people think and I really don't know the right answer, although I'm becoming increasingly sure.

make a classification thread for youre parents then

[Odin]

I did mostly hang with the white girls rather than the black girls but they always treated me a little different and I couldn't stand it. Trolling is harsh. I do really want to know what people think and I really don't know the right answer, although I'm becoming increasingly sure.

You are still pretty though. :wink So you have got nothing to worry about.

[Jennifer]

Did anyone ever say to you that you were black/your mother looked mixed/etc? I would imagine people noticed but didn't bring it up if they figured it was not something you openly claimed.

Very rarely did someone say something directly. When they did, it was all over the map. I've been asked if I was Mexican, Jewish, Lebanese, Italian. There werre a couple guys in high school who told me they thought my mom looked Puerto Rican.

[Sikeliot]

There werre a couple guys in high school who told me they thought my mom looked Puerto Rican.

She does. She looks like how Jennifer Lopez would look if she wasn't famous and didn't whitewash herself :lol:

[alnortedelsur]

She would easily be mistaken for a light hispanic

She would not be in the lighter end of the Hispanic Latin American average. There are lots of predominately Euro mestizos (harnizos and castizos) Latin Americans who are lighter, and look less alien to Europe than her, aside of millions and millions of white/mostly white Latin Americans, mostly present in the southern cone (Argentina, Uruguay, Southern Brazil, and to a less extent Chile), but also present as large minorities in countries like Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Colombia, Paraguay, and the rest of Brazil.

[Jennifer]

I guess I should have made the poll about the actual classification. Does anyone not say octoroon? Cause it seems like that's it.

[Odin]

Does anyone not say octoroon? Cause it seems like that's it.

Correct.

[alnortedelsur]

Nothing personal against you. I'm just being honest, but you should be happy with yourself.

And I agree that you're pretty in your own way.

[Jennifer]

make a classification thread for youre parents then

Done.

[Argentano]

looks like a puerto rican

After seeing your mom, who looks dominican, i cannot believe you identify as white.

[Jennifer]

Nothing personal against you. I'm just being honest, but you should be happy with yourself.

And I agree that you're pretty in your own way.

Nothing taken personally. I did ask.

[Mortimer]

i dont know do a genetic test, or ask your ancestors.

[Jennifer]

i dont know do a genetic test, or ask your ancestors.

I am going to take the test but really I'd be shocked if everyone was far off.

[♥ Lily ♥]

To be honest, I think you look mixed and I can see some black African in your features, especially in this picture. (The eye shape, the brows, the nose, face shape, lips, skin tone, hair texture.)

https://imgur.com/a/Zoxke

[Smeagol]

Between octoroon and quadroon. I have a hard time believing people see you as white here. Mother is clearly mixed (quadroon probably)

[Oneeye]

Whexican

[al-Bosni]

I'm not good at classifying... so you are a cat with a potential of becoming a lion of Islam.

[Decius]

I'm not good at classifying... so you are a cat with a potential of becoming a lion of Islam.

Why haven't you left the forum yet?

[al-Bosni]

Why haven't you left the forum yet?

Because of some one you don't know

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Italy

[StonyArabia]

She doesn't look mestiza, like at all.

I'd say she's a rather light Lousiana creole or something like that. Maybe around 20% SSA or a bit more.

She looks like a Dominican poster from the previous years or so: vibrant_

Yes, Vibrany_ was the blond version

[Kitkouach]

My mom looks just like me. No pictures of dad on hand.

https://imgur.com/a/KncOs

https://imgur.com/a/4wbd9

Nothing to add, ineed your mom looks mixed. If i saw your mom in the street I would assume she is black (based on US criteria). Common look in France in mestizos from Guadeloupe or Martinique.

She looks like a "Less Europoïd and more SSA" version of an old mixed french R'N'B singer, Kayliah, from Guadeloupean background.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68615&d=1507909827
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68614&d=1507909566

[Jennifer]

Nothing to add, ineed your mom looks mixed. If i saw your mom in the street I would assume she is black (based on US criteria). Common look in France in mestizos from Guadeloupe or Martinique.

She looks like a "Less Europoïd and more SSA" version of an old mixed french R'N'B singer, Kayliah, from Guadeloupean background.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68615&d=1507909827
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68614&d=1507909566

And if you saw me on the street?

[Tobi]

Are you and your mother really counted as whites in US? That's pretty weird because even here you would be perceived as pardos (mixed race).

[Jennifer]

Are you and your mother really counted as whites in US? That's pretty weird because even here you would be perceived as pardos (mixed race).

The more I think about it, the more willing I am to admit that my experience of "passing" growing up was really an experience of people not talking about it. The only people I can remember actually calling me white were the black (Negro-Griff range) kids I went to school with. The handful of times I called myself white, no one contradicted me to my face but I got a curious/ surprised look. I learned just not to bring it up.

I've talked to my parents since I started the thread and both my maternal grandmother and and my mother's father's mother were Cuban with some Aftican heritage. My dad said he wanted us to blend in and we were states away from mom's family. He never exactly lied. He just left out stuff and I never asked. I could pretend I never thought to ask but really I didn't want to know. I was comfortable. Probably should have talked to then <i>before </i> making a thread.

I don't think it's that weird. I'm hardly the only exotic "white" girl in the States.

[Odin]

I've talked to my parents since I started the thread and both my maternal grandmother and and my mother's father's mother were Cuban with some Aftican heritage. My dad said he wanted us to blend in and we were states away from mom's family.

So I was right about your mother. I knew it, I have actually seen Afro-Latin types like her in Miami. ;)

[aherne]

New World type most typical in Cuba/Puerto Rico/Dominican Republic. White-based triracial...

[RN97]

The more I think about it, the more willing I am to admit that my experience of "passing" growing up was really an experience of people not talking about it. The only people I can remember actually calling me white were the black (Negro-Griff range) kids I went to school with. The handful of times I called myself white, no one contradicted me to my face but I got a curious/ surprised look. I learned just not to bring it up.

I've talked to my parents since I started the thread and both my maternal grandmother and and my mother's father's mother were Cuban with some Aftican heritage. My dad said he wanted us to blend in and we were states away from mom's family. He never exactly lied. He just left out stuff and I never asked. I could pretend I never thought to ask but really I didn't want to know. I was comfortable. Probably should have talked to then <i>before </i> making a thread.

I don't think it's that weird. I'm hardly the only exotic "white" girl in the States.

You said that your mother's maiden name was German. Do you mean like German-German or merchant-German? If you google it, do you get it as a German or Jewish surname? If it's Jewish that might suggest slave owner background perhaps. A lot of Jews owned slaves, not a lot of Germans (in the USA).

[Jennifer]

You said that your mother's maiden name was German. Do you mean like German-German or merchant-German? If you google it, do you get it as a German or Jewish surname? If it's Jewish that might suggest slave owner background perhaps. A lot of Jews owned slaves, not a lot of Germans (in the USA).

Most of the Google results seem to be Jewish.

[RN97]

Most of the Google results seem to be Jewish.

There you go. The tribe was notorious slave owners pr. capita.

[Jennifer]

There you go. The tribe was notorious slave owners pr. capita.

Do you see any Ashkenazi in me?

[RN97]

Do you see any Ashkenazi in me?

Well they vary greatly in looks, but since you're mixed it's not even possible to say how much you have of it really. You could only be like 1/8th Ashkenazim, who knows? Not even a DNA test will say for sure, but that's your best option. I don't think you look like a Jew though.

[Jennifer]

Well they vary greatly in looks, but since you're mixed it's not even possible to say how much you have of it really. You could only be like 1/8th Ashkenazim, who knows? Not even a DNA test will say for sure, but that's your best option. I don't think you look like a Jew though.

I'll know in a few weeks then. I'm half tempted to start another poll asking exactly how much SSA people see in me. Should have been what I asked on this one. A guy told me I had a Jewish figure once, whatever that means.

[Jennifer]

Usually means wide hips.

I don't think mine are especially wide.

[Dick]

I classify you as angry+andid negrita.

[Cristiano viejo]

If your parents are white, then you can put the hand in the fire that your mother cheated your father.

[Jennifer]

I classify you as angry+andid negrita.

Where do you get angry? I'm chill bro.

[Jennifer]

If your parents are white, then you can put the hand in the fire that your mother cheated your father.

It's my mother I look like. I posted a pic of her.

[Dick]

Where do you get angry? I'm chill bro.

Crazy daisy

[Cristiano viejo]

It's my mother I look like. I posted a pic of her.

Mt theory works then.

[Jennifer]

Crazy daisy

Seriously, what??

[Dick]

Seriously, what??

:puke

[Mortimer]

Jennifer you look sweet and cute. I like your look.

[Jennifer]

Does anything but the face matter?

[Jennifer]

No. It just means I'm curious. Don't read into stuff.

[Wilhelm O.]

Does anything but the face matter?

Definetly. But you can't measure that through the internet. Your cephalic index, facial index, limb length etc. all matter but you need specific tools to measure that which probably none on this forum has.

[Jennifer]

Definetly. But you can't measure that through the internet. Your cephalic index, facial index, limb length etc. all matter but you need specific tools to measure that which probably none on this forum has.

I meant more macro. Like are some races more likely to have an apply shape than a pear shape? That sort of thing.

[Jennifer]

20% West African, 9% Native South American, 37% Southern European, dribs and drabs from elsewhere in Europe. Anyone surprised?

[Sebastianus Rex]

I meant more macro. Like are some races more likely to have an apply shape than a pear shape? That sort of thing.

Yes, different sub-races have tendencially different body types.

[spik]

Does anything but the face matter?

Yes - not answering trolls who want to know the colour of your private parts!

[Jennifer]

Yes - not answering trolls who want to know the colour of your private parts!

I didn't mean that sort of thing, really.

[spik]

I didn't mean that sort of thing, really.

Anyways, did you find any Ashkenazi Jewish in your DNA?

[Jennifer]

Anyways, did you find any Ashkenazi Jewish in your DNA?

6%

[Vldbzh]

Have you checked her "Ancestry" in profile?

[Salem523]

Alpine + SSA + Amerindian.

[aherne]

Exacly like I guessed:) She's like the most typical Puerto Rican one can find. Her mother looked mulatta with slighly less African than European. No other ancestry is visible but Spanish / Negro / Indian (as her genetic profile confirms)

[Sikeliot]

You can pass as Cape Verdean.

[quirtydoodah]

You're kinda difficult to guess. I get a cuban/pan euro mix vibe from you. You could also pass as having some South American too. Really pretty, you look like a girl I'm close with.

[Jennifer]

You're kinda difficult to guess. I get a cuban/pan euro mix vibe from you. You could also pass as having some South American too. Really pretty, you look like a girl I'm close with.

What's specifically Cuban looking beyond general triracial traits?

[quirtydoodah]

What's specifically Cuban looking beyond general triracial traits?

I'm new to this whole guessing ethnicities thing but mainly due to darker features, tanned skin and just a general vibe.

[Kivan]

Euro leaning triracial.

[barkoo]

You look Castiza, Pred Alpine/CM + Amerindian admix

[Zroota]

Asiatic Alpine and East Med.

Pass in the Levant and Turkey.

[NSXD60]

You'd pass in Leah Rimini's house
http://i67.tinypic.com/bj8m02.jpg

[Gangrel]

Asiatic Alpine and East Med.

Pass in the Levant and Turkey.

can you stop trolling?

[Septentrion]

Sometimes. My hair is natural here

https://imgur.com/a/kexXV

and here

https://imgur.com/a/xyZYO

Cute girl. In my eyes, you look mostly Southern European.