Pure Caucasoid is a " Myth ". Turks, North Africans are less Caucasoid than South Asians.

[ButlerKing]

A lot of Idiots keep claiming South Asians are not Caucasoid. Firstable South Asians are a mix of West Eurasian + ASI components. Firstable the first Caucasoid properly didn't exist in Europe.

1) The ASI component in South Asians is not necessarily Australoid, many claims it's a proto-Caucasoid. Also ASI it's closer to West Eurasian than to East Asian and Sub-Saharan DNA.

2) ASI which is predominant in South India are all anthropologically different from the Australoid Negrito and Australian aborigines that resemble Africans not to mention Australoid have many different variations not just a African-look alike type but others like Caucasoid.


Where is your pure Caucasoid genetically. There is none, if if they are 99.98% West Eurasian genetically it doesn't make you pure. So what's a pure Caucasoid?


Caucasoid is a anthropologically type not a genetic type.



GENETICALLY ? use your brain before you keep talking shit.


There is no such thing as pure Caucasoid genetically only anthropologically. And anthropologically South Asians are pure Caucasoids like Europeans, Middle easterners.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/43/1477752292-image-zps0843aaba.jpg



Please use your brain before you make wrong judgments

North Africans are CAUCASOID anthropologically but they are genetically admixtures of mix of West Eurasian and SSA ( Black African / Sub-Saharan) which is Negroid type

Central Asian/Turks are CAUCASOID anthropologically but they are genetically mix of West Eurasian and East Eurasian ( East Asian / Siberian ) which is Mongoloid type



North African DNA

https://histoireislamique.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/north-africa-admixture.jpg?w=740&h=439

Central Asian Turk DNA
http://i63.tinypic.com/23m3cqx.jpg


East Asian DNA distribution

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/4779fa0f-e2c8-483b-b083-3ede0f9f9d36_zps035022e4.gif~original

African DNA distribution
http://oi50.tinypic.com/23j0g74.jpg

[Fractal]

Racially pure super divine race. The Greco-Italic master race. :rotfl:

[Hudayar]

Turkmens being over 50% mongoloid sounds suspicious to me. On MDLP K23b spreadsheet they're 20-30% mongoloid. where did you get that pic from?

[ButlerKing]

Turkmens being over 50% mongoloid sounds suspicious to me. On MDLP K23b spreadsheet they're 20-30% mongoloid. where did you get that pic from?

Spreadsheet only shows individual samples, for example a North African Morrocan in this study is considered only 18.83% Sub-Saharan even though they have samples that can reach up to 32%-58% SSA (but I believe high SSA African admixture are mostly south Morrocans who claim to be descendants of slaves. ) They excluded the samples of Morrocans with high SSA but also excluded the ones lower than 18%.

http://i45.tinypic.com/keta15.png

[Hudayar]

Spreadsheet only shows individual samples, for example a North African Morrocan in this study is considered only 18.83% Sub-Saharan even though they have samples that can reach up to 32%-58% SSA (but I believe high SSA African admixture are mostly south Morrocans who claim to be descendants of slaves. ) They excluded the samples of Morrocans with high SSA but also excluded the ones lower than 18%.

http://i45.tinypic.com/keta15.png

imo your pics are not very reliable but whatever. dunno anything about north africans.

[ButlerKing]

Racially the Morrocans can be generally considered a pure Caucasoid physical type ( even though they are SSA mixed ) while South Asians are mix of Caucasoid west Eurasian and proto-Caucasoid ASI.

Morrocan Americans ( not the guy in the middle)
https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/MO-Moroccan-American-Summit-2013-12.jpg

[ButlerKing]

imo your pics are not very reliable but whatever. dunno anything about north africans.

What's so unrealible ? In Turkmenistan there are still many Turkmen who look more chink than a Chinese even though Turkmens are considered Caucasoid

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6XNnfi0qrkU/TRpOGCE8G0I/AAAAAAAACK8/mag-Kjl-DHM/s640/TUMENHBRS_image0017.jpg
http://www.turkicpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/turkmen.jpg
https://yytm.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/turkmen-girls.jpg

[ButlerKing]

I made this thread before.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?138352-Turkmen-K15-Spreadsheet-DNA-Inaccurate-and-flawed

I explained why the Turkmen spreadsheet was flawed


North Sea: 4%
Atlantic: 3%
Baltic: 3%
Eastern Euro: 10%
West Med: 2%
West Asian: 28%
East Med: 19%
Red sea: 3%
South Asian: 14%
Southeast Asian: 5%
Siberian: 7%
Amerindian: 1%


So they are 14% South Asian and only 13% Mongoloid ( actually 12% if the 1% Amerindian could even be noise ).

Why is it so Inaccurate and flawed? here's why


1) The problem is that it uses the average number even it makes only a minority 10% of the population.



2) For example if 5 out of 50 samples had the same number of 13% Mongoloid, and 5 samples being the highest than that's the average number even if the other 45 samples ( 90% ) are different. You can have 2nd average number of 4 samples being 30% mongoloid or 2 samples being 50% mongoloid but won't be included and mentioned in the spreadsheet.



DNA varies from region to region that's why we all get different results everytime. Although east Turkey is properly due to ethnic Kurdish, since east Turkey is predominated by ethnic Kurds

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-caee4cbb964496b12352470bd11eff05
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7298/11763645624_09a3ab20f1_o.gif

[Hudayar]

When i google searched this http://i63.tinypic.com/23m3cqx.jpg i found nothing

did you make the picture

[ButlerKing]

When i google searched this http://i63.tinypic.com/23m3cqx.jpg i found nothing

did you make the picture

You won't find it... it's in tinypic. I copy and pasted it.


DNA study is not always 100% accurate. We can see Turkmen here are 30-48% East Eurasian and Uyghurs are 55-60% East Eurasian

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oa3bBts6e3M/Ur6VH_81tpI/AAAAAAAAAUI/JGoPs1UmWyA/s1600/Lazaridis2014_EDF3_K6.png%3Cfont%20color=



According to that genetic graph Uyghurs are mostly East Eurasian yet in Wikipedia it says this, and in other DNA chart they are supposed to be 58-68% West Eurasian yet in other studies they are barely even 50%

Genetics[edit]

Variations among Uyghur people

The Uyghurs are a Eurasian population with Eastern and Western Eurasian anthropometric and genetic traits. Uyghurs are thus one of the many populations of Central Eurasia that can be considered to be genetically related to European and East Asian populations. However, various scientific studies differ on the size of each component.[129] One study, using samples from Hetian (Hotan) only, found that Uyghurs have 60% European ancestry and 40% East Asian ancestry.[130] A further study showed slightly greater European component (52% European) in the Uyghur population in southern Xinjiang, but slightly greater East Asian component (47% European) in the northern Uyghur population.[131] Another study used a larger sample of individuals from a wider area, and found only about 30% European component to the admixture.[132]


DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS PICTURE IS FROM BUT IT SHOWS UYGHURS ARE 55-80% WEST EURASIAN

I saved this picture for sometime but I never seen a genetic study with such a high west Eurasian on any other studies of Uyghurs

http://i63.tinypic.com/wk45n9.jpg

[ButlerKing]

When i google searched this http://i63.tinypic.com/23m3cqx.jpg i found nothing

did you make the picture

I downloaded the files many years ago. It was from a Russian forum, you'll have to log in. You won't be able to find it because I copy and pasted it on tinypic.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

A lot of Idiots keep claiming South Asians are not Caucasoid. Firstable South Asians are a mix of West Eurasian + ASI components. Firstable the first Caucasoid properly didn't exist in Europe.

1) The ASI component in South Asians is not necessarily Australoid, many claims it's a proto-Caucasoid. Also ASI it's closer to West Eurasian than to East Asian and Sub-Saharan DNA.

2) ASI which is predominant in South India are all anthropologically different from the Australoid Negrito and Australian aborigines that resemble Africans not to mention Australoid have many different variations not just a African-look alike type but others like Caucasoid.


Where is your pure Caucasoid genetically. There is none, if if they are 99.98% West Eurasian genetically it doesn't make you pure. So what's a pure Caucasoid?


Caucasoid is a anthropologically type not a genetic type.



GENETICALLY ? use your brain before you keep talking shit.


There is no such thing as pure Caucasoid genetically only anthropologically. And anthropologically South Asians are pure Caucasoids like Europeans, Middle easterners.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/43/1477752292-image-zps0843aaba.jpg



Please use your brain before you make wrong judgments

North Africans are CAUCASOID anthropologically but they are genetically admixtures of mix of West Eurasian and SSA ( Black African / Sub-Saharan) which is Negroid type

Central Asian/Turks are CAUCASOID anthropologically but they are genetically mix of West Eurasian and East Eurasian ( East Asian / Siberian ) which is Mongoloid type



North African DNA

https://histoireislamique.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/north-africa-admixture.jpg?w=740&h=439

Central Asian Turk DNA
http://i63.tinypic.com/23m3cqx.jpg


East Asian DNA distribution

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/4779fa0f-e2c8-483b-b083-3ede0f9f9d36_zps035022e4.gif~original

African DNA distribution
http://oi50.tinypic.com/23j0g74.jpg

West Europe don't have same pigmentation as Nordic. Sorry but you don't have much blond hair and eyes.
Specially France. Your look is not guy from 1st photo!

[ButlerKing]

West Europe don't have same pigmentation as Nordic. Sorry but you don't have much blond hair and eyes.
Specially France. Your look is not guy from 1st photo!

Pigmentation is a adaptation not a genetic. There are many Mongoloids and Oceana Solomon islander with blonde hair ? so what. It is the skeletal traits that matters not hair/eye color which hare superficial traits.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Pigmentation is a adaptation not a genetic. There are many Mongoloids and Oceana Solomon islander with blonde hair ? so what. It is the skeletal traits that matters not hair/eye color which hare superficial traits.

pigmentation means (hair, eyes, and the pigment of body).

In your photo westerners are represented as man like Kevin De Bruyne, which is not true actually.

About skeletal traits, i agree. Similar are western and nordic people. But pigmentation totally different.

[ButlerKing]

Turkmens being over 50% mongoloid sounds suspicious to me. On MDLP K23b spreadsheet they're 20-30% mongoloid. where did you get that pic from?

I find this study extremely suspicious too. If this study of Uyghur is correct that means Uyghur are suppose to be even more West/Eurasian/Caucasoid than Uzbeks and Turkmen

As we all know from other charts CHB is Chinese or a proxy to East Asian population and CEU Central Europeans or proxy to European.

UIG is Uyghur.

http://i63.tinypic.com/wk45n9.jpg

[ButlerKing]

pigmentation means (hair, eyes, and the pigment of body).

In your photo westerners are represented as man like Kevin De Bruyne, which is not true actually.

About skeletal traits, i agree. Similar are western and nordic people. But pigmentation totally different.

Pigmentation occurs occasionally in genetically 100% ASI people in South India. By your logic they should be accepted as Caucasoid Nordics.

https://i0.wp.com/farm4.staticflickr.com/3043/2868721152_37c731de01_z.jpg

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Pigmentation occurs occasionally in genetically 100% ASI people in South India. By your logic they should be accepted as Caucasoid Nordics.

https://i0.wp.com/farm4.staticflickr.com/3043/2868721152_37c731de01_z.jpg

No. I just said that Nordic peoples and Western are not same at all.

[Sika]

A lot of Idiots keep claiming South Asians are not Caucasoid. Firstable South Asians are a mix of West Eurasian + ASI components. Firstable the first Caucasoid properly didn't exist in Europe.

1) The ASI component in South Asians is not necessarily Australoid, many claims it's a proto-Caucasoid. Also ASI it's closer to West Eurasian than to East Asian and Sub-Saharan DNA.

2) ASI which is predominant in South India are all anthropologically different from the Australoid Negrito and Australian aborigines that resemble Africans not to mention Australoid have many different variations not just a African-look alike type but others like Caucasoid.


Where is your pure Caucasoid genetically. There is none, if if they are 99.98% West Eurasian genetically it doesn't make you pure. So what's a pure Caucasoid

This is so dumb and cringe worthy.

ASI is part of ENA, ENA peaks in Asians, Australasian, Oceanians. ENA is part of Crown Eurasians (ENA, ANE, WHG). None of the Crown Eurasians were "Caucasoid", so-called "Caucasoid" probably emerged in Near East as a mix of WHG/UHG + Basal Eurasian.

All West Eurasians today are mix of Crown Eurasian + Basal Eurasian. While Asians, Australiasians, Pacific Oceanians are purely ENA, while Native Americans are ENA + ANE.

We see the same in Europe, high WHG (one of crown Eurasian) admixture = Less Caucasoid facial morphology. While, high EEF/Neolithic farmer (which has Basal admixture) = More Caucasoid facial morphology.

https://i.imgur.com/6mf1tS5.jpg

[ButlerKing]

This is so dumb and cringe worthy.

ASI is part of ENA, ENA peaks in Asians, Australasian, Oceanians. ENA is part of Crown Eurasians (ENA, ANE, WHG). None of the Crown Eurasians were "Caucasoid", so-called "Caucasoid" probably emerged in Near East as a mix of WHG/UHG + Basal Eurasian.

All West Eurasians today are mix of Crown Eurasian + Basal Eurasian. While Asians, Australiasians, Pacific Oceanians are purely ENA, while Native Americans are ENA + ANE.

We see the same in Europe, high WHG (one of crown Eurasian) admixture = Less Caucasoid facial morphology. While, high EEF/Neolithic farmer (which has Basal admixture) = More Caucasoid facial morphology.

https://i.imgur.com/6mf1tS5.jpg


You say ASI is part of ENA which included Asians, Australiasians, Pacific Oceanians

But ASI which peaks in South India produces the most Caucasoid morphology of all races ( without even having West Eurasian admixture). Physical features of the Veddoids were considered proto-Caucasoid/Europoid by many anthropologist because they resembled so much eachother while the same can't be said with the others.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C10yBOaW8AAnehQ.jpg
http://www.sagesse-primordiale.com/blog/wp-content/vedda.jpg

[Tauromachos]

You say ASI is part of ENA which included Asians, Australiasians, Pacific Oceanians


ENNA with double NN is a town in Sicily
Thats the only thing i know so far :)

[Sika]

ENNA with double NN is a town in Sicily
Thats the only thing i know so far :)

ENA in genetic literature is "Eastern Non-Africans", which is East Eurasia. ENA is umbrella term for genetic component found in East/Southeast Asians, Australasians, Pacific Oceania, Native Americans etc.

When humans first migrated out of Africa, they split into Crown Eurasians and Basal Eurasian. Crown Eurasians diversified into ENA, ANE, WHG and are more closely related to eachother than they are to Basal Eurasian.

[Sika]

You say ASI is part of ENA which included Asians, Australiasians, Pacific Oceanians

But ASI which peaks in South India produces the most Caucasoid morphology of all races ( without even having West Eurasian admixture). Physical features of the Veddoids were considered proto-Caucasoid/Europoid by many anthropologist because they resembled so much eachother while the same can't be said with the others.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C10yBOaW8AAnehQ.jpg

All South Asians today have Basal Eurasian admixture since Neolithic, coming from West Asia. While, pure "ASI" is ENA, related to everything in East Eurasia.

Ainu for example, are pure ENA, and some* display Pseudo-Caucasoid morphology. It does not mean anything genetically.
https://i.imgur.com/nI8D0PN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aCKKyHL.jpg

Same with some* native Australians like in Krauatungalung people.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Native_tribes_of_South-East_Australia_Fig_5_-_One_of_the_Krauatungalung.jpg/611px-Native_tribes_of_South-East_Australia_Fig_5_-_One_of_the_Krauatungalung.jpg

When it comes to West Eurasians, who are mix of Crown Eurasian + Basal today, we can see morphology differences based on their admixtures.

High Crown Eurasian + less Basal admixture = Less Caucasoid morphology.
https://i.imgur.com/A9RmEX4.jpg

High Basal-related admixture + low Crown Eurasian = Caucasoid morphology.
https://i.imgur.com/qoJTws1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6mf1tS5.jpg

[MagnusAurelius]

Racially pure super divine race. The Greco-Italic master race. :rotfl:

Yes, more racially pure than your people just as my entire family including all of the Italian side are more racially pure than you are. African admixture on here includes Caucasoid North Africans, South Italians only have 0.5-2% Non-Caucasoid admixture depending on the person compared to you and your Gujarati people who have 15 (at minimum) - 30% depending on the person/caste.

[Fractal]

Yes, more racially pure than your people just as my entire family including all of the Italian side are more racially pure than you are. African admixture on here includes Caucasoid North Africans, South Italians only have 0.5-2% Non-Caucasoid admixture depending on the person compared to you and your Gujarati people who have 15 (at minimum) - 30% depending on the person/caste.

You're a mutt who is a combination of Italian and Irish. My ancestors for the past couple millenia have been Gujaratis and no one else. I can't stand you stupid North American Whites (but to be fair most Euros either)

We consider breeding with you non-Aryans to be DOWNGRADING, never forget.

[Grab the Gauge]

When it comes to West Eurasians, who are mix of Crown Eurasian + Basal today, we can see morphology differences based on their admixtures.


There is nothing less Caucasoid about the examples you claim. The Armenoid from Plate 42 of Coon's book is however strongly Mongoloid shifted, like many Armenians.


You and ButlerKing are a disease on this forum -- two in a long line of maladjusted midgets and cheese puffs.

[MagnusAurelius]

You're a mutt who is a combination of Italian and Irish. My ancestors for the past couple millenia have been Gujaratis and no one else. I can't stand you stupid North American Whites (but to be fair most Euros either)

We consider breeding with you non-Aryans to be DOWNGRADING, never forget.

Repeat that another 1000+ times, reality doesn't change. It is an upgrade, more racially pure genetically fit offspring. Extreme caste endogamy has ruined the South Asian genome, not only do they marry within the same ethnic group by default but further restrictions, same caste group within each ethnic group. The only solution is to mix different forward caste groups among each other but for the healthiest more racially pure offspring, should be with European.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/south-asians-prone-to-genetic-diseases-ccmb-study/article19303968.ece

It was found that 81 out of 263 unique South Asian groups, including 14 groups with estimated census sizes of over a million, have a genetic mutation base with recessive diseases much more than the one that occurred in both Finns and Ashkenazi Jews in the West. This source of risk for genetic recessive diseases was different from that due to marriages among close relatives (consanguineous marriages), also a major cause of recessive disease here, said the study published in online edition of ‘Nature Genetics,’ on July 17.

https://i2.wp.com/www.harappadna.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/caste6.jpg Fractal=Mixed race mutt.

You wanna go again retard? You know I have debunked you on every fact, racial purity is far more important than ethnic purity.

[Fractal]

Repeat that another 1000+ times, reality doesn't change. It is an upgrade, more racially pure genetically fit offspring. Extreme caste endogamy has ruined the South Asian genome, not only do they marry within the same ethnic group by default but further restrictions, same caste group within each ethnic group. The only solution is to mix different forward caste groups among each other but for the healthiest more racially pure offspring, should be with European.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/south-asians-prone-to-genetic-diseases-ccmb-study/article19303968.ece

It was found that 81 out of 263 unique South Asian groups, including 14 groups with estimated census sizes of over a million, have a genetic mutation base with recessive diseases much more than the one that occurred in both Finns and Ashkenazi Jews in the West. This source of risk for genetic recessive diseases was different from that due to marriages among close relatives (consanguineous marriages), also a major cause of recessive disease here, said the study published in online edition of ‘Nature Genetics,’ on July 17.

https://i2.wp.com/www.harappadna.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/caste6.jpg Fractal=Mixed race mutt.

You wanna go again retard? You know I have debunked you on every fact, racial purity is far more important than ethnic purity.

It's absolutely not an upgrade to any Indians you fucking moron.

I know the Indian diaspora, not a single one of us would considering mixing with someone like you or any North American white or any NON-INDIAN to be a racial upgrade. Believe me on this

Trust me. To me its nothing short of downgrading our race and our heritage to mix with you. And it's not gonna happen anyway. The ones that want to mix with Whites are Asians, latinos, and MENAs.

I have no interest in getting into a debate about this, so just save it.

[MagnusAurelius]

A lot of Idiots keep claiming South Asians are not Caucasoid. Firstable South Asians are a mix of West Eurasian + ASI components. Firstable the first Caucasoid properly didn't exist in Europe.

1) The ASI component in South Asians is not necessarily Australoid, many claims it's a proto-Caucasoid. Also ASI it's closer to West Eurasian than to East Asian and Sub-Saharan DNA.

2) ASI which is predominant in South India are all anthropologically different from the Australoid Negrito and Australian aborigines that resemble Africans not to mention Australoid have many different variations not just a African-look alike type but others like Caucasoid.


Where is your pure Caucasoid genetically. There is none, if if they are 99.98% West Eurasian genetically it doesn't make you pure. So what's a pure Caucasoid?


Caucasoid is a anthropologically type not a genetic type.



GENETICALLY ? use your brain before you keep talking shit.


There is no such thing as pure Caucasoid genetically only anthropologically. And anthropologically South Asians are pure Caucasoids like Europeans, Middle easterners.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/43/1477752292-image-zps0843aaba.jpg



Please use your brain before you make wrong judgments

North Africans are CAUCASOID anthropologically but they are genetically admixtures of mix of West Eurasian and SSA ( Black African / Sub-Saharan) which is Negroid type

Central Asian/Turks are CAUCASOID anthropologically but they are genetically mix of West Eurasian and East Eurasian ( East Asian / Siberian ) which is Mongoloid type



North African DNA

https://histoireislamique.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/north-africa-admixture.jpg?w=740&h=439

Central Asian Turk DNA
http://i63.tinypic.com/23m3cqx.jpg


East Asian DNA distribution

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/4779fa0f-e2c8-483b-b083-3ede0f9f9d36_zps035022e4.gif~original

African DNA distribution
http://oi50.tinypic.com/23j0g74.jpg


1) It has been established that ASI is a mixed, I believe is is 1/3 Caucasoid.

2) You cherry pick photo's, the native population of India are East Asians, Adavasi's and Onge, they are the primary groups.

The majority of Adavasi clearly shows they are a mixed group, they are not Caucasoid at all. They look like a mix of Australoids, Onge and East Asians.

There is such thing as pure Caucasoid genetically, I know it is discouraged to associate ancestral genetics with physical anthropology. Still, reality remains, you can still associate different population components with one of the main races if that component is a pure one. No one questions that the original Neolithic Farmers, Mesolithic Europeans or IndoEuropeans were Non-Caucasoid.

Having noise admixture is irrelevant, under 5% admixture from another race means nothing.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oa3bBts6e3M/Ur6VH_81tpI/AAAAAAAAAUI/JGoPs1UmWyA/s1600/Lazaridis2014_EDF3_K6.png Look how mixed South Asians are, I didn't wanna believe this, I never did, far too much non-Caucasoid admixture.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

https://imgur.com/a/c7Eid

biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2014/04/02/001552.DC3/001552-1.pdf


http://www.harappadna.org/2011/06/caste-is-not-ancestrally-arbitrary/

http://www.harappadna.org/2011/04/reference-3-admixture-k11/ I trust these results, they specialize in South Asian DNA, many North Africans are here, they are more racially pure. The K11 is a good analysis.

It depends on the individual and which South Asian ethnic group. There are many South Asian ethnic groups that are less racially pure than North Africans. You are clearly bias.

[Fractal]

@Magnus: Aryans don't give a shit about you, especially the ones in North America Moron. they see you as inferior and as a lower racial type.

We don't care what you say. You lose. The fact that you want to engage in debates with us about this proves you're the one who has an inferiority complex.

Go away non-Aryan.

[MagnusAurelius]

It's absolutely not an upgrade to any Indians you fucking moron.

I know the Indian diaspora, not a single one of us would considering mixing with someone like you or any North American white or any NON-INDIAN to be a racial upgrade. Believe me on this

Trust me. To me its nothing short of downgrading our race and our heritage to mix with you. And it's not gonna happen anyway. The ones that want to mix with Whites are Asians, latinos, and MENAs.

I have no interest in getting into a debate about this, so just save it.

You are insecure emotional little feminine weakling. I look at things from an objective point of view, genetically divergent populations results in healthier off spring only if they are not a totally different race.

http://i.imgur.com/5Ca1qPJ.png Number 4 definitely applies to South Asians. Genetically depressed populations who have been inbred for too long or have been mating with their 4th/5th/6th/8th cousins which is essentially what your parents are if they are both Gujarati Patels of the same caste.


http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_race_mixing No mention of South Asians here. The only issue of mixing different Caucasoid groups is the Cultural divide, there is no genetic outbreeding depression if Europeans marry South Asians, especially more racially pure South Asians, it is only bringing their race back in line for more purity with the offspring.

This is essentially why the offspring of your 2 aunts who married White men are more racially pure than and every Indian in your family. It must feel bad coming from a cucked family, glad no one in my family married a Non-European.

[MagnusAurelius]

@Magnus: Aryans don't give a shit about you, especially the ones in North America Moron. they see you as inferior and as a lower racial type.

We don't care what you say. You lose. The fact that you want to engage in debates with us about this proves you're the one who has an inferiority complex.

Go away non-Aryan.

Autistic loser feels compelled to respond! Keep going retard, you already make Indians look bad on this forum. All you do is make stupid posts, you have never once made an insightful or intelligent post/thread in your life.

[Fractal]

Indians don't want to mix with you because they don't want to downgrade their race and ethnicity. And for the record, my family is very healthy physically and genetically. No one is fat like in yours.

[MagnusAurelius]

Indians don't want to mix with you because they don't want to downgrade their race and ethnicity. And for the record, my family is very healthy physically and genetically. No one is fat like in yours.

Genetic reality doesn't lie irrational retard, your parents are both 4th/5th/6th or 7th cousins if they are both Gujati Patels of the same caste, they are a genetically depressed population, if their offspring mixes with Europeans the result if more racially pure offspring that are less prone to genetic diseases , this is fact idiot, keep being in denial.

Nothing you say or do matters at this point, you are already regarded as a mentally ill retard on this forum anyway.

You are just obsessed with getting the last word, even if you make yourself look like an idiot in the process.

[catgeorge]

Problem with the internet is the third world has access to it. There should be a DNA genetic access pass for the internet - as is the trend with the forum majority of the nonsense and diatribe comes from third worlders.

If I was ever made president this is one of the things I would do decline internet access to third worlders whether living in their home nation or new world

[Fractal]

Problem with the internet is the third world has access to it. There should be a DNA genetic access pass for the internet - as is the trend with the forum majority of the nonsense and diatribe comes from third worlders.

If I was ever made president this is one of the things I would do decline internet access to third worlders whether living in their home nation or new world

The average Indian living in the UK (butlerking) or in the USA is probably a billion times more adept with computers and technology than any Greek.

No one goes to Greeks to get their computers fixed. I go to Indians I know and so do many Whites.

just lol.

[MagnusAurelius]

A lot of Idiots keep claiming South Asians are not Caucasoid. Firstable South Asians are a mix of West Eurasian + ASI components. Firstable the first Caucasoid properly didn't exist in Europe.

1) The ASI component in South Asians is not necessarily Australoid, many claims it's a proto-Caucasoid. Also ASI it's closer to West Eurasian than to East Asian and Sub-Saharan DNA.

2) ASI which is predominant in South India are all anthropologically different from the Australoid Negrito and Australian aborigines that resemble Africans not to mention Australoid have many different variations not just a African-look alike type but others like Caucasoid.


Where is your pure Caucasoid genetically. There is none, if if they are 99.98% West Eurasian genetically it doesn't make you pure. So what's a pure Caucasoid?


Caucasoid is a anthropologically type not a genetic type.



GENETICALLY ? use your brain before you keep talking shit.


There is no such thing as pure Caucasoid genetically only anthropologically. And anthropologically South Asians are pure Caucasoids like Europeans, Middle easterners.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/43/1477752292-image-zps0843aaba.jpg



Please use your brain before you make wrong judgments

North Africans are CAUCASOID anthropologically but they are genetically admixtures of mix of West Eurasian and SSA ( Black African / Sub-Saharan) which is Negroid type

Central Asian/Turks are CAUCASOID anthropologically but they are genetically mix of West Eurasian and East Eurasian ( East Asian / Siberian ) which is Mongoloid type



North African DNA

https://histoireislamique.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/north-africa-admixture.jpg?w=740&h=439

Central Asian Turk DNA
http://i63.tinypic.com/23m3cqx.jpg


East Asian DNA distribution

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/4779fa0f-e2c8-483b-b083-3ede0f9f9d36_zps035022e4.gif~original

African DNA distribution
http://oi50.tinypic.com/23j0g74.jpg

The ASI is definately not Proto-Caucasoid. Do you really think Onge and Australoids are Proto-Caucasoids? Proto-Caucasoids are Cro-Magnons.

Indigenous South Asians= Onge, Australoid, Adavasi

The Adavasi group is mixed, Vedda's are included in the Adavasi group, some of them may have more Caucasoid looking people but the majority of them do not resemble Caucasoids and have 80% or more Non-Caucasoid admixture.

You really think these people are more racially pure and more Caucasoid than North Africans? Hahahaha.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Young_Baiga_women%2C_India.jpg/1280px-Young_Baiga_women%2C_India.jpg

http://www.thecitizen.in//NewsImages/598123INDIA.jpg

http://www.thehansindia.com/assets/4721_aua.jpg

http://www.pajhra.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/DSC00960.jpg


https://www.google.com/search?biw=1422&bih=684&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=yTr0WZXbKqa3jwSExJqACg&q=adivasi+people&oq=adivasi+people&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l7.119250.120121.0.120266.7.6.0.0.0.0.98.42 9.6.6.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.6.428...0i67k1.0.8NeXUK-u43E


More pictures here.

[Fractal]

Autistic loser feels compelled to respond! Keep going retard, you already make Indians look bad on this forum. All you do is make stupid posts, you have never once made an insightful or intelligent post/thread in your life.

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?12411-Pakistani-Gujjar-Results-Harappa/page15 On Anthrogenica there are loads of South Asians all in agreement that R1a does not come from India and all of them believe there was a migration or invasion.

:punjabidance All these more intelligent Indians all accept reality you see, they are not insecure defeated and timid like yourself and that isn't saying much little fractal, most men are not as timid/weak and pathetic as you are :punjabidance

Doesn't matter. indians don't want to mix with you, we want to maintain our ethnic bloodlines and family tree. You lose non-Aryan. And we consider mixing with North American Whites, Europeans, Asians, latnos, Blacks etc to be racially downgrading. You mention my aunts but forget that all of my cousin siblings are dating or married to other Indians.

I suggest you private message Butlerking and he can give you a better explanation than I. But nope, you are seen as a non-Aryan, non-Indian to us so we don't care what you think.

[Fractal]

Autistic loser feels compelled to respond! Keep going retard, you already make Indians look bad on this forum. All you do is make stupid posts, you have never once made an insightful or intelligent post/thread in your life.

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?12411-Pakistani-Gujjar-Results-Harappa/page15 On Anthrogenica there are loads of South Asians all in agreement that R1a does not come from India and all of them believe there was a migration or invasion.

:punjabidance All these more intelligent Indians all accept reality you see, they are not insecure defeated and timid like yourself and that isn't saying much little fractal, most men are not as timid/weak and pathetic as you are :punjabidance

Doesn't matter. indians don't want to mix with you, we want to maintain our ethnic bloodlines and family tree. You lose non-Aryan. And we consider mixing with North American Whites, Europeans, Asians, latnos, Blacks etc to be racially downgrading. You mention my aunts but forget that all of my cousin siblings are dating or married to other Indians.

I suggest you private message Butlerking and he can give you a better explanation than I. But nope, you are seen as a non-Aryan, non-Indian to us so we don't care what you think.

[MagnusAurelius]

More repetition from the autistic mentally ill retard, his family already mixed with Europeans, loses in the end. Most Indian males are not obsessed with being considered Aryan and most males in general are not insecure weak 28 year old University dropouts with no career or job.

[MagnusAurelius]

Doesn't matter. indians don't want to mix with you, we want to maintain our ethnic bloodlines and family tree. You lose non-Aryan. And we consider mixing with North American Whites, Europeans, Asians, latnos, Blacks etc to be racially downgrading. You mention my aunts but forget that all of my cousin siblings are dating or married to other Indians.

I suggest you private message Butlerking and he can give you a better explanation than I. But nope, you are seen as a non-Aryan, non-Indian to us so we don't care what you think.

More repetition from the autistic mentally ill retard, your family already mixed with Europeans.

Doesn't matter, your family has still mixed more than my entire family has, well not mixing in the racial purity sense since the offspring of those aunts with white men are the most racially pure in your family, but in terms of inter-cultural marriage they have mixed more. 2 Aunts is more than enough, no one in my family has ever married or dated a Non-European.

How am I losing? In the end you are a 5'7 weak small short incel virgin timid University dropout with no job, no career, no business, a low life NEET.

[Fractal]

More repetition from the autistic mentally ill retard, your family already mixed with Europeans.

Doesn't matter, your family has still mixed more than my entire family has, well not mixing in the racial purity sense since the offspring of those aunts with white men are the most racially pure in your family, but in terms of inter-cultural marriage they have mixed more. 2 Aunts is more than enough, no one in my family has ever married or dated a Non-European.

How am I losing? In the end you are a 5'7 weak small short incel virgin timid University dropout with no job, no career, no business, a low life NEET.

Absolute bullshit. They are mixed just like you're a combination between Italian and Irish. The rest of us are 100% Gujarati Indian Hindus, and that's what other non-Indians identify us as in real life.

The only one with no ethnicity and any identity is a stupid North American White mutt like you. We don't want to mix with you since you're a non-Aryan.

Just give it a rest now, moron. Go debate someone else. You're spending your weekend thinking about Indians on an online forum? For goodness sake,take a hike and go talk about European culture or something.

Lastly, Indians in the west are smarter and more intelligent than you. We know more about computers, more about software, business and how to make money and run businesses, we aren't fat, and we like to have fun.

YOU LOSE.

[MagnusAurelius]

Absolute bullshit. They are mixed just like you're a combination between Italian and Irish. The rest of us are 100% Gujarati Indian Hindus, and that's what other non-Indians identify us as in real life.

The only one with no ethnicity and any identity is a stupid North American White mutt like you. We don't want to mix with you since you're a non-Aryan.

Just give it a rest now, moron. Go debate someone else. You're spending your weekend thinking about Indians on an online forum? For goodness sake,take a hike and go talk about European culture or something.

Lastly, Indians in the west are smarter and more intelligent than you. We know more about computers, more about software, business and how to make money and run businesses, we aren't fat, and we like to have fun.

YOU LOSE.

White Culture influences the entire world, you wear my cultures clothing styles, drive cars from it, enjoy sports from it, music to. Your own ancestral shit holes national sport is an English sport, if anything your cultural identity is obsolete, why else is India becoming so Westernized? The very concept of being "Modern" in your primitive Culture is influenced by Westernization.

Hahahaha, dumb idiot, keep denying the reality that different ethnic groups in the same race is NOT RACE MIXING, you are more mixed than I am. I am 99.6% Caucasoid, you are 75-80% maximum, you are more mixed than I am, it doesn't matter how long ago that ancestry was accumulated, it still makes you mixed.

You are a weak triggered little bitch who is in denial about being mixed race, you have a small penis, you are a university dropout, you have no job, your parents are probably ashamed of you but maybe the Gujarati inbred Patel clan can hook you up with some Motel/Hotel job. You already failed in life and have no will to unfuck your life since you are a mentally ill autist with a low IQ and aspergers, dropout.

Hyper emotional opinions from a weak timid small dick losers is irrelevant my previous posts debunks your delusions retard. You were online when I logged on idiot, I slept from 2pm-9pm.

You define inferiority, all you can do is mention other Indians cringeworthy annoying loser.

[kingjohn]

magnus if fracal
can hook you up his sister
would you go for it ?

[ButlerKing]

1) It has been established that ASI is a mixed, I believe is is 1/3 Caucasoid.

2) You cherry pick photo's, the native population of India are East Asians, Adavasi's and Onge, they are the primary groups.

The majority of Adavasi clearly shows they are a mixed group, they are not Caucasoid at all. They look like a mix of Australoids, Onge and East Asians.

There is such thing as pure Caucasoid genetically, I know it is discouraged to associate ancestral genetics with physical anthropology. Still, reality remains, you can still associate different population components with one of the main races if that component is a pure one. No one questions that the original Neolithic Farmers, Mesolithic Europeans or IndoEuropeans were Non-Caucasoid.

Having noise admixture is irrelevant, under 5% admixture from another race means nothing.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oa3bBts6e3M/Ur6VH_81tpI/AAAAAAAAAUI/JGoPs1UmWyA/s1600/Lazaridis2014_EDF3_K6.png Look how mixed South Asians are, I didn't wanna believe this, I never did, far too much non-Caucasoid admixture.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

https://imgur.com/a/c7Eid

biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2014/04/02/001552.DC3/001552-1.pdf


http://www.harappadna.org/2011/06/caste-is-not-ancestrally-arbitrary/

http://www.harappadna.org/2011/04/reference-3-admixture-k11/ I trust these results, they specialize in South Asian DNA, many North Africans are here, they are more racially pure. The K11 is a good analysis.

It depends on the individual and which South Asian ethnic group. There are many South Asian ethnic groups that are less racially pure than North Africans. You are clearly bias.


Native populations of India were Veddoid racial type and in most of India.

East Asians and Onge were never natives to India (before the unification of India ). Onge lived in the Andaman islands and East Asian in India were migrants from Burma and China's Yunnan mountain.

Sorry but the admixture Indian people have is already proto-Caucasoid

ONGE Components in India WERE NEVER THAT HIGH, it's non-existant in many population however those that do have this ASI admixture is NOT TRUELY ONGE it sometimes just stupidly labelled as "Onge" to include all Australoid, Negrito different types group even though the admixture Indians have nothing to do with the Negrito of Andaman island.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/10/roma2.png

[ButlerKing]

The ASI is definately not Proto-Caucasoid. Do you really think Onge and Australoids are Proto-Caucasoids? Proto-Caucasoids are Cro-Magnons.

Indigenous South Asians= Onge, Australoid, Adavasi

The Adavasi group is mixed, Vedda's are included in the Adavasi group, some of them may have more Caucasoid looking people but the majority of them do not resemble Caucasoids and have 80% or more Non-Caucasoid admixture.

You really think these people are more racially pure and more Caucasoid than North Africans? Hahahaha.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Young_Baiga_women%2C_India.jpg/1280px-Young_Baiga_women%2C_India.jpg

http://www.thecitizen.in//NewsImages/598123INDIA.jpg

http://www.thehansindia.com/assets/4721_aua.jpg

http://www.pajhra.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/DSC00960.jpg


https://www.google.com/search?biw=1422&bih=684&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=yTr0WZXbKqa3jwSExJqACg&q=adivasi+people&oq=adivasi+people&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l7.119250.120121.0.120266.7.6.0.0.0.0.98.42 9.6.6.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.6.428...0i67k1.0.8NeXUK-u43E


More pictures here.



You know what's the problem with your head?


1) You think genetic and anthropologically is the same thing

2) You think Caucasoid is by default Europeans

3) You do not even know what the original Caucasoid or west Eurasian genetically look like



ASI people have Caucasoid like morphology. The problem with you is you judge those pictures in those people as non-Caucasoid for their skin color and appearance.

Their morphology is Caucasoid and skin color is just a superficial trait. Even these albino will make your Italians look like non-Europeans since many people considers Italian especially south Italian as Arabian/North African mixed for their darker skin, dark hair and eyes.

https://s16.postimg.org/5ahjf3vdh/albino-indian-europans.jpg
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/207/535559954_3965ce90fe_z.jpg?zz=1
https://s33.postimg.org/hbgzchcov/297453_10151050841952897_645946074_n.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Indus/Indian_woman.JPG



Also let me give you an idea what ancient proto-Caucasoids look like


Ancient Caucasoid morphologies in Europe are different to the ones in Europe today.

https://rperon1017blog.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/kostenki-man1.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Indentured/Sungir_man.jpg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDXBv_k6gNY

[Вavhat]

I do see a resemblance

http://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/images/sn-bust.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Veddah_Man.jpg

Even genetically it has some Veddoid influence.

Some info from Genetiker
https://genetiker.wordpress.com/2014/11/14/analyses-of-the-kostenki-14-genome/


MDLP Ancient Roots K17

21.63% Ancestral_East_European_ANE
14.90% Ancestral_South_Indian
12.58% West_European_HG
9.94% African_Sub_Saharian
9.13% Ancestral_North_Indian
8.40% Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF
4.08% South_East_Asian
3.96% Melano-Austronesian
3.73% Amerindian
2.93% Caucasian-Basal
2.78% Ancestral_West_Siberian
2.43% Uralic
1.44% Ancestral_East_Siberian
1.41% Ancestral_Sami-Finnic
0.36% Circumpolar
0.15% Archaic_African
0.15% Near-East-Basal

It was not fully Veddoid like its phenotype seem to be, but the point is a connection can be established. Earlier ones like Oase 1 had higher veddoid genes. Genetiker also said:


Kostenki 14 lived a few thousand years after Oase 1 in Russia, and his smaller amounts of the Veddoid components and larger amounts of the Caucasoid components showed that he had partially ascended the evolutionary path from Veddoids to Caucasoids

[MagnusAurelius]

You know what's the problem with your head?


1) You think genetic and anthropologically is the same thing

2) You think Caucasoid is by default Europeans

3) You do not even know what the original Caucasoid or west Eurasian genetically look like



ASI people have Caucasoid like morphology. The problem with you is you judge those pictures in those people as non-Caucasoid for their skin color and appearance.

Their morphology is Caucasoid and skin color is just a superficial trait. Even these albino will make your Italians look like non-Europeans since many people considers Italian especially south Italian as Arabian/North African mixed for their darker skin, dark hair and eyes.

https://s16.postimg.org/5ahjf3vdh/albino-indian-europans.jpg
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/207/535559954_3965ce90fe_z.jpg?zz=1
https://s33.postimg.org/hbgzchcov/297453_10151050841952897_645946074_n.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Indus/Indian_woman.JPG



Also let me give you an idea what ancient proto-Caucasoids look like


Ancient Caucasoid morphologies in Europe are different to the ones in Europe today.

https://rperon1017blog.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/kostenki-man1.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Indentured/Sungir_man.jpg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDXBv_k6gNY

So cringeworthy, comparing clinical Albino's from India to Europeans implying "WE ARE WHITER THAN ITALIANS"!

I don't think ancestral genetics and Physical anthropology is the same, I believe you can associate specific admixture components with certain races if that component is not known to be a mixed one. I never said Caucasoid is by default "Europeans". Never have I implied or looked at skin color when deeming one Caucasoid or Non-Caucasoid, you are making things up, I never said or believed those things, all the pictures I linked were adavasi's who are mixed race and have non-Caucasoid facial features.

I don't care what people consider, I go by ancestral genetic evidence and Italians do not have significant amounts of SSA, Indians are more mixed.

You link that Cultural marxist left wing nonsense from Corporate owned BBC.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C0UmtW2cl8 Debunked. He was Haplogroup L and they made him look like a Negroid.

You are citing all this outdated information debunked information.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXc7dhxXv9M&t Even if you don't wanna believe this, there is this fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon Cro-Magnons were Proto-Caucasoids but I doubt this, I think there were various other populations who could have been refugees from Atlantis.


Caucasoid skull Mladec 1 (31,000 B.P., Czech Republic ).
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DTF1GC/homo-sapiens-cranium-mladec-1-DTF1GC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wJXUuVs.jpg

[MagnusAurelius]

Native populations of India were Veddoid racial type and in most of India.

East Asians and Onge were never natives to India (before the unification of India ). Onge lived in the Andaman islands and East Asian in India were migrants from Burma and China's Yunnan mountain.

Sorry but the admixture Indian people have is already proto-Caucasoid

ONGE Components in India WERE NEVER THAT HIGH, it's non-existant in many population however those that do have this ASI admixture is NOT TRUELY ONGE it sometimes just stupidly labelled as "Onge" to include all Australoid, Negrito different types group even though the admixture Indians have nothing to do with the Negrito of Andaman island.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/10/roma2.png

I know it is stupidly labeled as Onge, I never believed it was actual pure Onge. They use Onge as a reference population since they are a genetically isolated group. The Ancestral South Indian component itself is widely acknowledged to be a mixed one. You are in a fantasy land trying to prove Proto-Caucasoids come from India, you don't realize that the origins of human kind are under a strict band of secrecy and there is no acknowledgement of Esoteric history of Atlantis and Lumeria, of course most people on this forum don't look at these things and are only concerned with mainstream views.

[Smeagol]

I https://s16.postimg.org/5ahjf3vdh/albino-indian-europans.jpg[

I doubt the girl on the right is Indian.

[Antimage]

I doubt the girl on the right is Indian.

She has euro nose.

[MagnusAurelius]

She has euro nose.

What is a "euro nose"? This forum has hordes of people who make stupid posts. I can recall several times in the past I have seen Indian girls with white girls and the Indians had what I think are more attractive Caucasoid noses, long and straight. Here is 1 example. Many Europeans also have big noses. Indians generally do have bigger noses.

https://i.imgur.com/eUa4VsE.jpg

[Fractal]

You know what's the problem with your head?


1) You think genetic and anthropologically is the same thing

2) You think Caucasoid is by default Europeans

3) You do not even know what the original Caucasoid or west Eurasian genetically look like



ASI people have Caucasoid like morphology. The problem with you is you judge those pictures in those people as non-Caucasoid for their skin color and appearance.

Their morphology is Caucasoid and skin color is just a superficial trait. Even these albino will make your Italians look like non-Europeans since many people considers Italian especially south Italian as Arabian/North African mixed for their darker skin, dark hair and eyes.

https://s16.postimg.org/5ahjf3vdh/albino-indian-europans.jpg
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/207/535559954_3965ce90fe_z.jpg?zz=1
https://s33.postimg.org/hbgzchcov/297453_10151050841952897_645946074_n.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Indus/Indian_woman.JPG



Also let me give you an idea what ancient proto-Caucasoids look like


Ancient Caucasoid morphologies in Europe are different to the ones in Europe today.

https://rperon1017blog.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/kostenki-man1.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Indentured/Sungir_man.jpg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDXBv_k6gNY

Stop wasting your time with that Italian new world Euro mix.

He is inferior to Aryans in just about every measure except cyber trolling.

[MagnusAurelius]

Stop wasting your time with that Italian new world Euro mix.

He is inferior to Aryans in just about every measure except cyber trolling.

Cyber trolling is what you do, I go by facts and ancestral genetic evidence, as you can see the other Indians make more intelligent posts than you. As a insecure 28 year old University dropout who has exposed how pathetic he is on this forum, you define inferiority. You can't even generate income for yourself, you ask me what my business is because you are at a loss and at a dead end in life, you lose, eternally.

You are just that annoying rat who makes stupid posts all the time.

[MagnusAurelius]

So cringeworthy, comparing clinical Albino's from India to Europeans implying "WE ARE WHITER THAN ITALIANS"!

I don't think ancestral genetics and Physical anthropology is the same, I believe you can associate specific admixture components with certain races if that component is not known to be a mixed one. I never said Caucasoid is by default "Europeans". Never have I implied or looked at skin color when deeming one Caucasoid or Non-Caucasoid, you are making things up, I never said or believed those things, all the pictures I linked were adavasi's who are mixed race and have non-Caucasoid facial features.

I don't care what people consider, I go by ancestral genetic evidence and Italians do not have significant amounts of SSA, Indians are more mixed.

You link that Cultural marxist left wing nonsense from Corporate owned BBC.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C0UmtW2cl8 Debunked. He was Haplogroup L and they made him look like a Negroid.

You are citing all this outdated information debunked information.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXc7dhxXv9M&t Even if you don't wanna believe this, there is this fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon Cro-Magnons were Proto-Caucasoids but I doubt this, I think there were various other populations who could have been refugees from Atlantis.


Caucasoid skull Mladec 1 (31,000 B.P., Czech Republic ).
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DTF1GC/homo-sapiens-cranium-mladec-1-DTF1GC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wJXUuVs.jpg

Fractals bias retard delusions aside, my point stands unchallenged.

[ButlerKing]

I know it is stupidly labeled as Onge, I never believed it was actual pure Onge. They use Onge as a reference population since they are a genetically isolated group. The Ancestral South Indian component itself is widely acknowledged to be a mixed one. You are in a fantasy land trying to prove Proto-Caucasoids come from India, you don't realize that the origins of human kind are under a strict band of secrecy and there is no acknowledgement of Esoteric history of Atlantis and Lumeria, of course most people on this forum don't look at these things and are only concerned with mainstream views.

No. Please don't claim ancestral South Indian is acknowledge mixed. ASI is indigenous component to ancient India, always had been. Many European themselves said that ASI people have proto-Caucasoid phenotypes and tried to classify them as old-Europoids. Ancient Caucasoid people had more australoid-Veddoid like morphologies unlike Europeans today. ASI always had Caucasoid morphologies while other Australoid tribes such as the Onge, Negrito did not. Some Adivasi tribes also have some Onge admixture although in smaller proportions, they don't have pure Veddoid phenotypes that's why you sometimes see less Caucasoid-like morphologies in some of the tribes .

Australoid is stupid term to refer to all dark skinned indegenious people of southern parts of Asia from Arabia to Southeast Asia even though they all have different skull shapes.


One can easily distinguist ASI phenotypes with ONGE phenotypes easily


Let's look at this DNA chart again. Europe in this chart is also wrongly labeled as Europeans but at least they sorted the out the ASI and ONGE

Europe (Pink) = West Eurasian admixture. Europeans, West Asian, Southwest Asian
South Asia ( Green ) = South Asian population or indigenous ASI
Onge ( Blue ) = Onge/Great Adamanese related DNA


South Asian population are mixture of West Asian and ASI population.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/10/roma2.png



Pure Onge phenotypes such as the Jirawa in it's pure form 100% ONGE

http://assets.survivalinternational.org/static/lib/img/gallery/Image_Galleries/jarawa/800x600/JARAWA30_medium.jpg?w=240
http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2014/5/8/2014581218828734_20.jpg



Great Adamanese Phenotypes , mixture of Onge and South Asian ( personally I don't understand how Indians can mix with such ugly little 4'6 feet tall dwarfs but anyway they did )

Great Adamanese are only mix of 41-65% Onge DNA with the rest being mostly South Asian 35-68%, and also West Eurasian mostly 0% (with exception of minority with 1-8%)

Although their Onge phenotypes are dominant you can see they have more hair and somewhat more Caucasoid-like facial structure than a pure Onge. A few of them can even pass as South Asian. The ASI admixture made them distinguishable.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/25/23/369680EE00000578-3707766-image-a-2_1469485465365.jpg


These ones look predominant Onge but still distinguishable from the pure ones. More growth of hair and more prominent nose compare with the wide noses of Onge.

https://assets.survivalinternational.org/pictures/522/boa-sr-chachi-2005_screen.jpg
https://rapidiq.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/from-left-to-right-neremo-and-his-father-late-nao-junior_2006.jpg

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[ButlerKing]

So cringeworthy, comparing clinical Albino's from India to Europeans implying "WE ARE WHITER THAN ITALIANS"!

I don't think ancestral genetics and Physical anthropology is the same, I believe you can associate specific admixture components with certain races if that component is not known to be a mixed one. I never said Caucasoid is by default "Europeans". Never have I implied or looked at skin color when deeming one Caucasoid or Non-Caucasoid, you are making things up, I never said or believed those things, all the pictures I linked were adavasi's who are mixed race and have non-Caucasoid facial features.



That's because some Adavasi are not even pure ASI , they have some Onge admixture at 15-20%, others tribes even more than that at 30-40% but only minority of tribes have them, the majority of Adivasi of them don't have it. Onge admixture appears quite strong even in the Great Adamanese despite them heavily mixed, most people would think they are just another different types of Onge but they clearly have more body hair and prominent noses, their hair also appears less curly and sometimes more straight despite a overall Onge appearance in most of them.

Ancient Europeans, Ancient Caucasoid had a more Australoid-Veddoid morphologies, although stupid anthropologist like to label veddoid and australoid together even they acknowledge that Veddoid have different skull type and resembles ancient-Europoid.

[MagnusAurelius]

No. Please don't claim ancestral South Indian is acknowledge mixed. ASI is indigenous component to ancient India, always had been. Many European themselves said that ASI people have proto-Caucasoid phenotypes and tried to classify them as old-Europoids. Ancient Caucasoid people had more australoid-Veddoid like morphologies unlike Europeans today. ASI always had Caucasoid morphologies while other Australoid tribes such as the Onge, Negrito did not. Some Adivasi tribes also have some Onge admixture although in smaller proportions, they don't have pure Veddoid phenotypes that's why you sometimes see less Caucasoid-like morphologies in some of the tribes .

Australoid is stupid term to refer to all dark skinned indegenious people of southern parts of Asia from Arabia to Southeast Asia even though they all have different skull shapes.


One can easily distinguist ASI phenotypes with ONGE phenotypes easily


Let's look at this DNA chart again. Europe in this chart is also wrongly labeled as Europeans but at least they sorted the out the ASI and ONGE

Europe (Pink) = West Eurasian admixture. Europeans, West Asian, Southwest Asian
South Asia ( Green ) = South Asian population or indigenous ASI
Onge ( Blue ) = Onge/Great Adamanese related DNA


South Asian population are mixture of West Asian and ASI population.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/10/roma2.png



Pure Onge phenotypes such as the Jirawa in it's pure form 100% ONGE

http://assets.survivalinternational.org/static/lib/img/gallery/Image_Galleries/jarawa/800x600/JARAWA30_medium.jpg?w=240
http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2014/5/8/2014581218828734_20.jpg



Great Adamanese Phenotypes , mixture of Onge and South Asian ( personally I don't understand how Indians can mix with such ugly little 4'6 feet tall dwarfs but anyway they did )

Great Adamanese are only mix of 41-65% Onge DNA with the rest being mostly South Asian 35-68%, and also West Eurasian mostly 0% (with exception of minority with 1-8%)

Although their Onge phenotypes are dominant you can see they have more hair and somewhat more Caucasoid-like facial structure than a pure Onge. A few of them can even pass as South Asian. The ASI admixture made them distinguishable.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/25/23/369680EE00000578-3707766-image-a-2_1469485465365.jpg


These ones look predominant Onge but still distinguishable from the pure ones. More growth of hair and more prominent nose compare with the wide noses of Onge.

https://assets.survivalinternational.org/pictures/522/boa-sr-chachi-2005_screen.jpg
https://rapidiq.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/from-left-to-right-neremo-and-his-father-late-nao-junior_2006.jpg

I am not gonna go with some old 19th century European pseudo delusions with physical anthropology. Cro-Magnons are proto-Caucasoids, not Veddoid. I get the impression you are trying to prove Indians are pure Caucasoids by implying the original population was Proto-Caucasoid.


The Adivasi are the result Dravidian Caucasaoids who mixed with the original Indigenous non-Caucasoid ASI. No conclusions can be drawn until the Harrapan paper is released, I hope they don't have a bias with Cultural marxist delusions to scew Haplogroup results without finding the final Haplogroup within the phylogenetics tree. It has been acknowledged that the original Indigenous population in India doesn't exist anymore, they were genocided and conquered through mass invasion, mixing and assimilation by Dravidian Caucasoids.

The Dravidian Caucasoids most likely waged war against the natives and mixed with them in mass.

http://www.gnxp.com/blog/uploaded_images/indiaMODEL-783101.png

[StonyArabia]

No one is pure race in the first place unless you are completely isolated.

[ButlerKing]

I am not gonna go with some old 19th century European pseudo delusions with physical anthropology. Cro-Magnons are proto-Caucasoids, not Veddoid. I get the impression you are trying to prove Indians are pure Caucasoids by implying the original population was Proto-Caucasoid.


The Adivasi are the result Dravidian Caucasaoids who mixed with the original Indigenous non-Caucasoid ASI. No conclusions can be drawn until the Harrapan paper is released, I hope they don't have a bias with Cultural marxist delusions to scew Haplogroup results without finding the final Haplogroup within the phylogenetics tree. It has been acknowledged that the original Indigenous population in India doesn't exist anymore, they were genocided and conquered through mass invasion, mixing and assimilation by Dravidian Caucasoids.

The Dravidian Caucasoids most likely waged war against the natives and mixed with them in mass.

http://www.gnxp.com/blog/uploaded_images/indiaMODEL-783101.png

Your chart doesn't prove anything.

There's no proof cro-magnum are proto-Caucasoids as in ancestors of all Caucasoids. Ancient Europeans even have morphology more closer to modern day South Asians than to modern Europeans. Most Adivasi themselves do not have west Eurasian admixture, they have mostly ASI DNA admixture, only some groups of them have higher Onge admixture more than others.

ASI is Caucasoid morphology phenotype group but were NON-WEST EURASIAN genetically but some of the tribes today from the Adivasi groups have East Asian, Onge admixture to different degrees which altered their their phenotypes.

Sorry to break to you. Dravidians Caucasoids which are indigenous to India were always a pure ASI genetically people although modern Dravidians speakers all have portions West Eurasian admixture pure ASI phenotypes can still be seen only Southern India even it's west Eurasian DNA are from NORTHERN INDIANS mass migration to the South which is nothing related with Europe or Middle east what so ever.

[MagnusAurelius]

Your chart doesn't prove anything.

There's no proof cro-magnum are proto-Caucasoids as in ancestors of all Caucasoids. Ancient Europeans even have morphology more closer to modern day South Asians than to modern Europeans. Most Adivasi themselves do not have west Eurasian admixture, they have mostly ASI DNA admixture, only some groups of them have higher Onge admixture more than others.

ASI is Caucasoid morphology phenotype group but were NON-WEST EURASIAN genetically but some of the tribes today from the Adivasi groups have East Asian, Onge admixture to different degrees which altered their their phenotypes.

Sorry to break to you. Dravidians Caucasoids which are indigenous to India were always a pure ASI genetically people although modern Dravidians speakers all have portions West Eurasian admixture pure ASI phenotypes can still be seen only Southern India even it's west Eurasian DNA are from NORTHERN INDIANS mass migration to the South which is nothing related with Europe or Middle east what so ever.

I don't believe that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_H_(Y-DNA) The ancestor is Haplogroup GHIJK which came from South West Asia. Of course you ignored all the evidence I presented in the previous videos, it was a lot to watch, all cited sources, seems like you believe the Out of India theory.

From cranial morphology , there is enough evidence they were Caucasoid. http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2011/02/cro-magnons-were-caucasoid-not-negroid.html I am not interested in this debate anymore. Mentioning Proto-Caucasoids a lot is getting into a debate on human origins, something that is not fully known since the Out of Africa theory is widely regarded to be nonsense, the Out of India theory is nonsense to.

[ButlerKing]

I don't believe that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_H_(Y-DNA) The ancestor is Haplogroup GHIJK which came from South West Asia. Of course you ignored all the evidence I presented in the previous videos, it was a lot to watch, all cited sources, seems like you believe the Out of India theory.

From cranial morphology , there is enough evidence they were Caucasoid. http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2011/02/cro-magnons-were-caucasoid-not-negroid.html I am not interested in this debate anymore. Mentioning Proto-Caucasoids a lot is getting into a debate on human origins, something that is not fully known since the Out of Africa theory is widely regarded to be nonsense, the Out of India theory is nonsense to.

So your source is a blog from a racist pseudo-scientist blogger from racial reality ?

There is no living human being with Haplogroup GHIJK and there's far more chance of it being Veddoid origin since even in ancient South West Asia were inhabited by Veddoid-like population since ancient time even our own very theapricity says that

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XI6.htm <------------- FROM THEAPRICITY, an established facts , not a thread.

Veddoid types from Arabia , even in Central Asia, the earliest humans were of Veddoid types and there were threads about it with anthropology Russian data, which explains why there is a existence of little bit of South Asian DNA

VEDDOIDS FROM ARABIA

http://britam.org/pic2/veddoid.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/1j6wco.png
http://i62.tinypic.com/119z9c6.png

Veddoid strain and phenotypes can also be found in Arabia, and the Arabs do have a small Veddoid component themselves, it seems a lot higher in a few people though

http://i46.tinypic.com/20pxcly.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/vnf0xe.jpg

[ButlerKing]

Mentioning Proto-Caucasoids a lot is getting into a debate on human origins, something that is not fully known since the Out of Africa theory is widely regarded to be nonsense, the Out of India theory is nonsense to.

Even if we don't believe in the Indian theory the fact the matters is that ancient population of Central Asia, West Asia, Southwest Asia had a ancient veddoid population, this explains why there is existing small Veddoid component found in all those regions.

American anthropologist Jill Priest and Danigala Vedda Chief Randunu Wanniya ( notice the overall similarity in their head structure? )

http://vedda.org/pix/priest&ratugala-chief600.jpg


Proto-Caucasoid Veddoids in it's perfect form

http://www.serendib.btoptions.lk/cpanel/uploader/196/Vadda%209.jpg.JPEG
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XoCl-pX-mu4/hqdefault.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ed/1b/93/ed1b9302d94b24d739ac3650857ff083.jpg

[MagnusAurelius]

So your source is a blog from a racist pseudo-scientist blogger from racial reality ?

There is no living human being with Haplogroup GHIJK and there's far more chance of it being Veddoid origin since even in ancient South West Asia were inhabited by Veddoid-like population since ancient time even our own very theapricity says that

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XI6.htm <------------- FROM THEAPRICITY, an established facts , not a thread.

Veddoid types from Arabia , even in Central Asia, the earliest humans were of Veddoid types and there were threads about it with anthropology Russian data, which explains why there is a existence of little bit of South Asian DNA

VEDDOIDS FROM ARABIA

http://britam.org/pic2/veddoid.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/1j6wco.png
http://i62.tinypic.com/119z9c6.png

Veddoid strain and phenotypes can also be found in Arabia, and the Arabs do have a small Veddoid component themselves, it seems a lot higher in a few people though

http://i46.tinypic.com/20pxcly.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/vnf0xe.jpg

I don't know why racial reality is considered "Pseudo Science" when all the sources are cited. The Apricity site has pseudo-science rejected by the entire scientific community.

http://greek-dna-sub-saharan-myth.org/

While recent studies prove the opposite. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/08/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals

I would rather see ancestral genetic evidence with these people than go by Phenotype, the vast majority of Arabs have 5-10% Sub Saharan admixture depending on the person and some could have more.

[ButlerKing]

I don't know why racial reality is considered "Pseudo Science" when all the sources are cited. The Apricity site has pseudo-science rejected by the entire scientific community.

http://greek-dna-sub-saharan-myth.org/

While recent studies prove the opposite. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/08/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals

I would rather see ancestral genetic evidence with these people than go by Phenotype, the vast majority of Arabs have 5-10% Sub Saharan admixture depending on the person and some could have more.

It's pseudo-Science because the idiot blogger bans people's comment for criticizing his own wild interpretations of the genetic study according to his own believes, that's how pathetic he is.

They also have 5-10% South Asian admixture and Sub-Saharan admixture can be as low 2-3% in many Arabs as aswell.

http://i48.tinypic.com/29o5qj5.jpg

[turbosat]

You know what's the problem with your head?


1) You think genetic and anthropologically is the same thing

2) You think Caucasoid is by default Europeans

3) You do not even know what the original Caucasoid or west Eurasian genetically look like



ASI people have Caucasoid like morphology. The problem with you is you judge those pictures in those people as non-Caucasoid for their skin color and appearance.

Their morphology is Caucasoid and skin color is just a superficial trait. Even these albino will make your Italians look like non-Europeans since many people considers Italian especially south Italian as Arabian/North African mixed for their darker skin, dark hair and eyes.

https://s16.postimg.org/5ahjf3vdh/albino-indian-europans.jpg





Also let me give you an idea what ancient proto-Caucasoids look like


Ancient Caucasoid morphologies in Europe are different to the ones in Europe today.





[video/video]

Are you sure girl on right side is Indian? It is unlikely (not totally impossible I suppose) she is South Asian. I searched in Google, but could not find out who exactly she is, but probably she is Russian, Czech or German as she was on their sites including on a Nazi German site as an example of a Aryan.

[MagnusAurelius]

It's pseudo-Science because the idiot blogger bans people's comment for criticizing his own wild interpretations of the study, that's how pathetic he is.

They also have 5-10% South Asian admixture and Sub-Saharan admixture can be as low 2-3% in many Arabs as aswell.

http://i48.tinypic.com/29o5qj5.jpg

That is what I thought with this. So much non-Caucasoid admixture.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2013/12/23/001552.DC1/001552-2.pdf On this, it yielded similar results for the K6.

https://imgur.com/a/c7Eid If you can't zoom in on it, it is here.

[ButlerKing]

Are you sure girl on right side is Indian? It is unlikely (not totally impossible I suppose) she is South Asian. I searched in Google, but could not find out who exactly she is, but probably she is Russian, Czech or German as she was on their sites including on a Nazi German site as an example of a Aryan.

Well all I did was just type "Indian albino" or "Veddoid albino" in google's images and she showed up. Her hairstyle is typical of many young Indian school girls.

I would believe she's real because I saw many Indians looking something like that, there are some who are not even albino but depigmented but look straight up like a North European.

I've seen them in a Indian TV documentary plenty of times.

Kamna, age 5, with her parents

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuow/files/styles/x_large/public/201604/20160402_172155__2__0.jpg
http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuow/files/201604/20160403_122120.jpg


Not even albino at all, just depigmented. Albino skin color are way more whiter than this.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/5b/63/b15b635d840d94a5e84d631885336ded.jpg

This is an albino, very white skinned. She looks like a Northern European girl or even look like European girl suffering albinism even though she's Indian. Most people can't distinguish many Indian albino and European albino from eachother.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/medias.photodeck.com/358685dd-aee4-41b3-aa61-4a7cf51d2697/Brett-Cole-India-06077_xlarge.jpg

[ButlerKing]

That is what I thought with this. So much non-Caucasoid admixture.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2013/12/23/001552.DC1/001552-2.pdf On this, it yielded similar results for the K6.

https://imgur.com/a/c7Eid If you can't zoom in on it, it is here.

I'm not even going to read those links because it's getting so off topic. Do you even understand the original point of my thread ?

I'm not here to discuss where proto-Caucasoid originated. I'm only proving that South Asians are as Caucasoid as any other populations anthropologically.

[MagnusAurelius]

I'm not even going to read those links because it's getting so off topic. Do you even understand the original point of my thread ?

I'm not here to discuss where proto-Caucasoid originated. I'm only proving that South Asians are as Caucasoid as any other populations anthropologically.

Which is 100% wrong and why you constantly cherry pic photo's of Individuals from isolated Tribes that look Caucasoid, it's obvious they were a mixed group. ASI is a mixed component.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5331473/1/ I was reading through this.

[ButlerKing]

Which is 100% wrong and why you constantly cherry pic photo's of Individuals from isolated Tribes that look Caucasoid, it's obvious they were a mixed group. ASI is a mixed component.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5331473/1/ I was reading through this.

You're becoming a more and more pseudo-science user. I suggest you focus more on your studies.

What was the point of that pseudo-science thread ? Blue = West Eurasian admixture. No one ever said it was Caucasoid except for idiot blogger.

ANSWER ME THIS: Which of the three races that Italian mix race will come out with pure caucasoid phenotypes. 1) A sub-Saharan, 2) Mongoloid, 3) Veddoid ?

THE ANSWER IS VEDDOID !!!!


Don't believe ? than have a look at this video. A Black albino and Mongoloid albino/or depigmented people can never look European even if they have all kinds of eyes/hair color but a Veddoid always can.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjBlZl8RON8

[Kouros]

So your source is a blog from a racist pseudo-scientist blogger from racial reality ?

There is no living human being with Haplogroup GHIJK and there's far more chance of it being Veddoid origin since even in ancient South West Asia were inhabited by Veddoid-like population since ancient time even our own very theapricity says that

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XI6.htm <------------- FROM THEAPRICITY, an established facts , not a thread.

Veddoid types from Arabia , even in Central Asia, the earliest humans were of Veddoid types and there were threads about it with anthropology Russian data, which explains why there is a existence of little bit of South Asian DNA

VEDDOIDS FROM ARABIA

http://britam.org/pic2/veddoid.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/1j6wco.png
http://i62.tinypic.com/119z9c6.png

Veddoid strain and phenotypes can also be found in Arabia, and the Arabs do have a small Veddoid component themselves, it seems a lot higher in a few people though

http://i46.tinypic.com/20pxcly.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/vnf0xe.jpg

Yupppp. Eickstedt even placed Veddoids among the 'old-Europid race' which is probably why we all have some of that 'Indian' blood.

[Kouros]

You're becoming a more and more pseudo-science user. I suggest you focus more on your studies.

What was the point of that pseudo-science thread ? Blue = West Eurasian admixture. No one ever said it was Caucasoid except for idiot blogger.

ANSWER ME THIS: Which of the three races that Italian mix race will come out with pure caucasoid phenotypes. 1) A sub-Saharan, 2) Mongoloid, 3) Veddoid ?

THE ANSWER IS VEDDOID !!!!


Don't believe ? than have a look at this video. A Black albino and Mongoloid albino/or depigmented people can never look European even if they have all kinds of eyes/hair color but a Veddoid always can.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjBlZl8RON8

Nvm this is just dumb dude.

Those albinos aren't even anthropologically veddoid to begin with.

[ButlerKing]

Nvm this is just dumb dude.

Those albinos aren't even anthropologically veddoid to begin with.

All South Asians have Veddoid admixture to different degrees. One thing I'm sure, is a Veddoid people 100000000 times more chance looking like a European albino than a Sub-Saharan or Mongoloid.

A Veddoid mix with a European can look 100% Caucasoid compared with a Sub-Saharan and Mongoloid who mix with them. That's because Veddoid itself is a old Europoid, proto-Caucasoid morphology population.

[MagnusAurelius]

You're becoming a more and more pseudo-science user. I suggest you focus more on your studies.

What was the point of that pseudo-science thread ? Blue = West Eurasian admixture. No one ever said it was Caucasoid except for idiot blogger.

ANSWER ME THIS: Which of the three races that Italian mix race will come out with pure caucasoid phenotypes. 1) A sub-Saharan, 2) Mongoloid, 3) Veddoid ?

THE ANSWER IS VEDDOID !!!!


Don't believe ? than have a look at this video. A Black albino and Mongoloid albino/or depigmented people can never look European even if they have all kinds of eyes/hair color but a Veddoid always can.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjBlZl8RON8


The gene for Albinism isn't the same, it exists in all races.

https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/oculocutaneous-albinism

http://www.livescience.com/41040-skin-color-genes-identified-india.html 80-87% of NorthIndian have the gene, 30% of South Indians do , around 95% of Europeans do.

Indians and Europeans Share 'Light-Skin' Mutation

You are linking Pseudo-Science now with stupid Afrocentric videos.

[ButlerKing]

The gene for Albinism isn't the same, it exists in all races.

https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/oculocutaneous-albinism

http://www.livescience.com/41040-skin-color-genes-identified-india.html 80-87% of NorthIndian have the gene, 30% of South Indians do , around 95% of Europeans do.

Indians and Europeans Share 'Light-Skin' Mutation

You are linking Pseudo-Science now idiot with stupid Afrocentric videos.


The video proves my point that South Asians can look a European Caucasoid unlike the negroids and Mongoloids. If North Africans, Turks, Horn of Africans are considered Caucasoid than South Asians are absolutely considered Caucasoid.

Caucasoid is a anthropological type not a genetic type. Skin color, eye color, hair color are all superficial traits. A pure Caucasoid is decided by his phenotypes features and head structure not his genetics because populations like north Africans are considered Caucasoid but have admixture from non-Caucasoid facial structure people such as the Sub-Saharans and Central Asian Turks like Turkmen are heavily mixed with Mongoloid ( another non-Caucasoid facial structure people ).

South Asians have both Caucasoid anthropology type west Eurasian and ancient ASI proto-Caucasoid phenotypes so in a scientific sense they are far more Caucasoid many other Caucasoids outside of South Asia, the only thing people think they aren't as Caucasoid is because they judge them by their skin color and their ASI proto-Caucasoid admixture.

[turbosat]

Well all I did was just type "Indian albino" or "Veddoid albino" in google's images and she showed up. Her hairstyle is typical of many young Indian school girls.

I would believe she's real because I saw many Indians looking something like that, there are some who are not even albino but depigmented but look straight up like a North European.

I've seen them in a Indian TV documentary plenty of times.

Kamna, age 5, with her parents

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuow/files/styles/x_large/public/201604/20160402_172155__2__0.jpg
http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuow/files/201604/20160403_122120.jpg


Not even albino at all, just depigmented. Albino skin color are way more whiter than this.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/5b/63/b15b635d840d94a5e84d631885336ded.jpg

This is an albino, very white skinned. She looks like a Northern European girl or even look like European girl suffering albinism even though she's Indian. Most people can't distinguish many Indian albino and European albino from eachother.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/medias.photodeck.com/358685dd-aee4-41b3-aa61-4a7cf51d2697/Brett-Cole-India-06077_xlarge.jpg

That other girl I suppose might still be Indian, but imo less likely. She was on a Czech site webpage discussing albinism, and on a Russian website and a German Nazi website as being from league of Nazi women or something like that. Germans and East Europeans (including older girls) can have that hair style as well as Indians usually young school girls.

Kamna 5 looks depigmented rather than albino but it would be good if someone like her was tested to see if she has any kind of albinism. I have personally seen a few albinos including an English lady and one or two Indians. They were all without any pigmentation, but I have read albinos are not always completely without pigmentation.

These Indians in USA have adopted these white children. IMO white children like this should not be given for adoption to non-white families for adoption.
The first albino girl in your post girl looks more like these children than looking Indian.
http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/594029e61600002900115f05.jpg

[Hudayar]

I have seen 100% West Eurasian results on Gedmatch before

[MagnusAurelius]

The video proves my point that South Asians can look a European Caucasoid unlike the negroids and Mongoloids. If North Africans, Turks, Horn of Africans are considered Caucasoid than South Asians are absolutely considered Caucasoid.

Caucasoid is a anthropological type not a genetic type. Skin color, eye color, hair color are all superficial traits. A pure Caucasoid is decided by his phenotypes features and head structure not his genetics because populations like north Africans are considered Caucasoid but have admixture from non-Caucasoid facial structure people such as the Sub-Saharans and Central Asian Turks like Turkmen are heavily mixed with Mongoloid ( another non-Caucasoid facial structure people ).

South Asians have both Caucasoid anthropology type west Eurasian and ancient ASI proto-Caucasoid phenotypes so in a scientific sense they are far more Caucasoid many other Caucasoids outside of South Asia, the only thing people think they aren't as Caucasoid is because they judge them by their skin color and their ASI proto-Caucasoid admixture.

You contradict yourself constantly trying to claim I post pseudo-science then you post pseudo-science. I know it is an anthropological type, you are implying that South Asians are more Caucasoid, this is all pseudo nonsense. Ancestral genetic facts don't correlate with your fantasies and many South Asians have non-Caucasoid morphology.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lCSzj8OWlro/VEjXKTI97aI/AAAAAAAAADw/DqyGaCp9t9w/s1600/TH27_NIYAMGIRI_HIL_1531724f.jpg

http://www.cultcha.org/archives/pics/IndiaJELCbishopdevighat-thumb.jpg

You say "Italian mix race" , you believe this pseudo-fantasy world, South Asians are not more racially pure than Italians.

[ButlerKing]

I have seen 100% West Eurasian results on Gedmatch before

There's no such thing as 100% West Eurasian...... every European since ancient time have at least 0.0001% of non-West Eurasian DNA since the Neolithic times of Europe. You can only be 99.99998% West Eurasian and some people will label 100% but it's been proven pure west Eurasian genetic structure no longer exist.

[MagnusAurelius]

I simply associated certain admixture components with each Anthropologically defined race before. It isn't fully known what ASI is yet but it is widely acknowledged that it is something related to Onge, obviously it is a mixed component. Keep being in denial.

[ButlerKing]

You contradict yourself constantly trying to claim I post pseudo-science then you post pseudo-science. I know it is an anthropological type, you are implying that South Asians are more Caucasoid, this is all pseudo nonsense. Ancestral genetic facts don't correlate with your fantasies and many South Asians have non-Caucasoid morphology.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lCSzj8OWlro/VEjXKTI97aI/AAAAAAAAADw/DqyGaCp9t9w/s1600/TH27_NIYAMGIRI_HIL_1531724f.jpg

http://www.cultcha.org/archives/pics/IndiaJELCbishopdevighat-thumb.jpg

You say "Italian mix race" , you believe this pseudo-fantasy world, South Asians are not more racially pure than Italians.




I don't know if you're pretending to not understand or just trolling. I already showed you with a genetic study that some Indian tribes have Onge admixture while most do not.

India has the most ethnic group and most sub-ethnic, sub-sub-ethnic groups in the world, there are properly more than 10,000+ Indian ethnicities and most sub-sub-sub ethnicity.

Most Indian people don't even know the names of most of these tribe nor understand their languages and sub-languages, most Indians will know nothing about them and have no interest in knowing and you came posting a random isolated tribe ????? If I have to guess it properly belongs to the Gond tribe and DNA shows they have both East Asian and Onge admixture to different degrees.

Have you forgotten this DNA study ? not all these tribes have pure ASI dna. Do you want me to bold the parts in circle in the blue colored parts to pinpoint the points I've made to you many times before ?

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/10/roma2.png

[Fractal]

@butlerking: stop giving this refried greaser wop the attention he craves.

[ButlerKing]

There's a difference between West Eurasian, ASI , Onge like it shows in the coloring charts but you keep posting tribal people that have significant Onge admixture (although not significant enough that they look like Onge but enough that they don't have pure Veddoid phenotypes and look different in many of them )

[ButlerKing]

@butlerking: stop giving this refried greaser wop the attention he craves.

Properly he is attention seeker but he is also too ignorant.

[ButlerKing]

Also let met just say..... the genetic chart I posted 100% accurate but it doesn't show the whole picture.

It is guaranteed that most South Asians do not have Onge admixture but there are some genetic variations even within their own tribe/caste but this entirely depends on the history of some locations. DNA may show 80% ASI, 20% West Eurasian with 0% Onge admixture on this tribe/or caste however they may also show Onge admixture within it's own group depending on the region history, this is nothing unusual due to assimilation of other tribes or intercaste marriage but will identify with the same caste and tribe.

[MagnusAurelius]

I don't know if you're pretending to not understand or just trolling. I already showed you with a genetic study that some Indian tribes have Onge admixture while most do not.

India has the most ethnic group and most sub-ethnic, sub-sub-ethnic groups in the world, there are properly more than 10,000+ Indian ethnicities and most sub-sub-sub ethnicity.

Most Indian people don't even know the names of most of these tribe nor understand their languages and sub-languages, most Indians will know nothing about them and have no interest in knowing and you came posting a random isolated tribe ????? If I have to guess it properly belongs to the Gond tribe and DNA shows they have both East Asian and Onge admixture to different degrees.

Have you forgotten this DNA study ? not all these tribes have pure ASI dna. Do you want me to bold the parts in circle in the blue colored parts to pinpoint the points I've made to you many times before ?

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/10/roma2.png

Of course the DNA study is accurate, The Green represents ASI which is a mixed component. Those Isolated tribes have a significant ASI component.

[MagnusAurelius]

Properly he is attention seeker but he is also too ignorant.

Coming from the guy who keeps linking Albino's trying to draw similarities.

[MagnusAurelius]

@butlerking: stop giving this refried greaser wop the attention he craves.

Stop projecting your insecurities onto everyone, I know it is hard being a short weak virgin dropout. There is no attention seeking here.

[MagnusAurelius]

The entire premise is trying to deny Non-Caucasoid admixture with upper caste South Asians.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2012/12/racial-composition-and-history-of-india.html Hate this blog all you want, he uses sources from other sites.

DNA evidence confirms what historians, linguists and anthropologists have long known but nationalists have denied: that Indians are mainly a mix of indigenous Australoids and intrusive Caucasoids. They're composed of two genetic components, one related to Andaman Islanders and the other to Western Eurasians, which is higher in upper castes. The estimated dates of admixture between the two are consistent with the introduction of Indo-Aryan languages from the northwest and probably also earlier events related to the spread of Dravidian languages and even agriculture.

[ButlerKing]

The entire premise is trying to deny Non-Caucasoid admixture with upper caste South Asians.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2012/12/racial-composition-and-history-of-india.html Hate this blog all you want, he uses sources from other sites.

DNA evidence confirms what historians, linguists and anthropologists have long known but nationalists have denied: that Indians are mainly a mix of indigenous Australoids and intrusive Caucasoids. They're composed of two genetic components, one related to Andaman Islanders and the other to Western Eurasians, which is higher in upper castes. The estimated dates of admixture between the two are consistent with the introduction of Indo-Aryan languages from the northwest and probably also earlier events related to the spread of Dravidian languages and even agriculture.

You can keep citing a dumbass pseudo-scientist blogger. Yes he uses sources from other sites but the problem are his interpretations of the sources that he made up. Australoid is a stupid label that covers many different dark skinned anthropologically types.

As for Caucasoid purity , it doesn't exist especially not your Italians anyway and it doesn't matter if you're north or south because neither of you have pure genetic structure.


Population Sub-Saharan African (>1%°)

African American 79.4%
Portugal 3.2%
Spain 2.4%
S. Italy 2.7%
Greece 1.9%
Sardinia 2.9%
N. Italy 1.1%
Sephardic Jews 4.8%
Ashkenazi Jews 3.2%

From the same study, estimates of Sub-Saharan African admixture proportions in Europe using STRUCTURE :

Population Sub-Saharan African (>0.1%°)

African American 77.2%
Portugal 2.1%
Spain 1.1%
S. Italy 1.7%
N. Italy 0.2% <-still not pure
Sardinia 0.2%
Sephardic Jews 4.3%
Ashkenazi Jews 2.6%

[MagnusAurelius]

You can keep citing a dumbass pseudo-scientist blogger. Yes he uses sources from other sites but the problem are his interpretations of the sources that he made up. Australoid is a stupid label that covers many different dark skinned anthropologically types.

As for Caucasoid purity , it doesn't exist especially not your Italians anyway and it doesn't matter if you're north or south because neither of you have pure genetic structure.


Population Sub-Saharan African (>1%°)

African American 79.4%
Portugal 3.2%
Spain 2.4%
S. Italy 2.7%
Greece 1.9%
Sardinia 2.9%
N. Italy 1.1%
Sephardic Jews 4.8%
Ashkenazi Jews 3.2%

From the same study, estimates of Sub-Saharan African admixture proportions in Europe using STRUCTURE :

Population Sub-Saharan African (>0.1%°)

African American 77.2%
Portugal 2.1%
Spain 1.1%
S. Italy 1.7%
N. Italy 0.2% <-still not pure
Sardinia 0.2%
Sephardic Jews 4.3%
Ashkenazi Jews 2.6%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_admixture_in_Europe

You got this from wikipedia and those figures come from this Plos Journal. It is counting pre-historic DNA from 11,700 years ago. The blog is a reliable source, you can't excuse it just because you disagree with his interpretation of the information, all the sources he uses are reliable.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0139784 That chart you used comes from this, I am pretty sure they are only analyzing MTDNA (DNA from females) in this so it isn't taking the full ancestry into account.

All these figures are under 5% anyway, it's insignificant, the most racially pure South Asians have at least 10-25% Non-Caucasoid admixture. The most racially pure ones being Pakistani's, Forward Caste North Indians, some Other Backward class ethnic groups and Forward Caste South Indians. Also depends on the individual to.

http://italianthro.blogspot.ca/2014/09/overestimated-admixture-brisighelli-2012.html Only using 52 AIMS here and they accounted for significantly more SSA admixture.

Then a study using 291,184 SNPs, it shows far less Sub-Saharan admixture.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7IP49RXbPKI/VAlvRPVa3tI/AAAAAAAAA18/-BavO9q1o9U/s1600/Admixture_291,184_SNPs.png



Source: https://arxiv.org/abs/1312.6639v2 Ancient human genomes suggest three ancestral populations for present-day Europeans

[ButlerKing]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_admixture_in_Europe

You got this from wikipedia and those figures come from this Plos Journal. It is counting pre-historic DNA from 11,700 years ago. The blog is a reliable source, you can't excuse it just because you disagree with his interpretation of the information, all the sources he uses are reliable.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0139784 That chart you used comes from this, I am pretty sure they are only analyzing MTDNA (DNA from females) in this so it isn't taking the full ancestry into account.

All these figures are under 5% anyway, it's insignificant, the most racially pure South Asians have at least 10-25% Non-Caucasoid admixture. The most racially pure ones being Pakistani's, Forward Caste North Indians, some Other Backward class ethnic groups and Forward Caste South Indians. Also depends on the individual to.

http://italianthro.blogspot.ca/2014/09/overestimated-admixture-brisighelli-2012.html Only using 52 AIMS here and they accounted for significantly more SSA admixture.

Then a study using 291,184 SNPs, it shows far less Sub-Saharan admixture.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7IP49RXbPKI/VAlvRPVa3tI/AAAAAAAAA18/-BavO9q1o9U/s1600/Admixture_291,184_SNPs.png



Source: https://arxiv.org/abs/1312.6639v2 Ancient human genomes suggest three ancestral populations for present-day Europeans

Did you measure the non-west Eurasian admixture in South Italians ? Your study is properly correct showing roughly 1.7% or even 2.7% Sub-Saharan admixture on South Italians and addition to that there's also East Asian admixture on the other corner the same goes for Spanish, North Italians, Sicilians

I could be wrong about your study having about the same admixture as the ones I've shown but Regardless, DNA shows you're not of pure west Eurasian.

Properly you chose the study of Italians, Spanish, Sicilians with the most European admixture as you can find. In other studies I'm sure they show even 3%. Also look at the other Europeans with East Asian admixture so I was correct when I said pure west Eurasian structure no longer exist and there's no such thing as pure Caucasoid genetically only anthropologically. South Asians are a mixture of West Eurasian and ASI , phenotypically they are mixture of Caucasoids and proto-Caucasoid traits.

Frequencies of haplogroup L lineages 1.20% to 22%

Country Region' Number tested Study %
Germany 333 Pliss et al. (2005) 1.20%
Italy Countrywide 583 Brisighelli et al. (2012) 1.20%[49]
Italy Countrywide 865 Boattini et al. (2013) 0.00%[50]
Italy Countrywide 240 Babalini et al. (2005) 0.40%[51]
Italy Tuscany 322 Achilli et al. (2007) 1.86%
Italy Tuscany 49 Plaza et al. (2003) 2.00%
Italy Latium 138 Achilli et al. (2007) 2.90%
Italy Marche 813 Achilli et al. (2007) 0.98%
Italy Central Italy 83 Plaza et al. (2003) 1.20%
Italy Lombardy 177 Achilli et al. (2007) 0.00%
Italy Piedmont 169 Achilli et al. (2007) 0.00%
Italy Sardinia 258 Pardo et al. (2012) 1.40%
Italy Sardinia 73 Plaza et al. (2003) 2.80%
Italy Sardinia 85 Sanna et al. (2011) 1.00%
Italy Sardinia (Ogliastra) 475 Fraumene C et al. (2003) 0.00%[52]
Italy Sardinia 96 Morelli et al. (1999) 0.00%
Italy Campania (South Italy) 313 Achilli et al. (2007) 0.32%
Italy Basilicata (South Italy) 92 Ottoni et al. (2009) 2.20%
Italy Apulia & Calabria (South Italy) 226 Achilli et al. (2007) 0.00%
Italy Southern Italy 115 Sarno et al. (2014) 0.00%
Italy Southern Italy 37 Plaza et al. (2003) 8.10%
Italy Sicily 106 Cali et al. (2003) 0.94%
Italy Sicily 105 Achilli et al. (2007) 1.90%
Italy Sicily 169 Plaza et al. (2003) 0.60%
Italy Sicily 198 Sarno et al. (2014) 1.01%
Italy Sicily 465 Romano et al. (2013) 0.65%[53]
South Iberia Spain & Portugal 310 Casas et al. (2006) 5.40%
Spain Countrywide 312 Álvarez et al. (2007) 2.90%
Spain Central Spain 50 Plaza et al. (2003) 4.00%
Spain North-West Spain 216 Achilli et al. (2007) 3.70%
Spain Galicia 92 Pereira et al. (2005) 3.30%
Spain Zamora 214 Álvarez et al. (2010) 4.70%
Spain Sayago 33 Álvarez et al. (2010) 8.18%
Spain Cordoba 108 Casas et al. (2006) 8.30%
Spain Huelva 135 Hernandez et al. (2014) 5.70%
Spain Catalonia 101 Álvarez-Iglesias et al. (2009) 2.97%
Spain Balearic Islands 231 Picornell et al. (2005) 2.20%
Spain Canary Islands 300 Brehm et al. (2003) 6.60%
Portugal Countrywide 594 Achilli et al. (2007) 8.90%
Portugal Countrywide 1429 Barral-Arca et al. (2016) 6.16%
Portugal Countrywide 549 Pereira et al. (2005) 6.83%
Portugal North 100 Pereira et al. (2010) 5.00%
Portugal Center 82 Pereira et al. (2010) 9.70%
Portugal Center 82 Plaza et al. (2003) 6.10%
Portugal South 195 Brehm et al. (2003) 11.30%
Portugal South 303 Achilli et al. (2007) 10.80%
Portugal Coruche 160 Pereira et al. (2010) 8.70%
Portugal Pias 75 Pereira et al. (2010) 3.90%
Portugal Alcácer do Sal 50 Pereira et al. (2010) 22.00%
Portugal Azores 179 Brehm et al. (2003) 3.40%
Portugal Madeira 155 Brehm et al. (2003) 12.90%
Portugal Madeira 153 Fernandes et al. (2006) 12.40%
Greece Crete 202 Achilli et al. (2007) 2.99%
Cyprus Cyprus 91 Irwin et al. (2008) 3.30%

[MagnusAurelius]

Did you measure the non-west Eurasian admixture in South Italians ? Your study is properly correct showing roughly 1.7% or even 2.7% Sub-Saharan admixture on South Italians and addition to that there's also East Asian admixture on the other corner the same goes for Spanish, North Italians, Sicilians

I could be wrong about your study having about the same admixture as the ones I've shown but Regardless, DNA shows you're not of pure west Eurasian.

Properly you chose the study of Italians, Spanish, Sicilians with the most European admixture as you can find. In other studies I'm sure they show even 3%. Also look at the other Europeans with East Asian admixture so I was correct when I said pure west Eurasian structure no longer exist and there's no such thing as pure Caucasoid genetically only anthropologically. South Asians are a mixture of West Eurasian and ASI , phenotypically they are mixture of Caucasoids and proto-Caucasoid traits.

Frequencies of haplogroup L lineages 1.20% to 22%

Country Region' Number tested Study %
Germany 333 Pliss et al. (2005) 1.20%
Italy Countrywide 583 Brisighelli et al. (2012) 1.20%[49]
Italy Countrywide 865 Boattini et al. (2013) 0.00%[50]
Italy Countrywide 240 Babalini et al. (2005) 0.40%[51]
Italy Tuscany 322 Achilli et al. (2007) 1.86%
Italy Tuscany 49 Plaza et al. (2003) 2.00%
Italy Latium 138 Achilli et al. (2007) 2.90%
Italy Marche 813 Achilli et al. (2007) 0.98%
Italy Central Italy 83 Plaza et al. (2003) 1.20%
Italy Lombardy 177 Achilli et al. (2007) 0.00%
Italy Piedmont 169 Achilli et al. (2007) 0.00%
Italy Sardinia 258 Pardo et al. (2012) 1.40%
Italy Sardinia 73 Plaza et al. (2003) 2.80%
Italy Sardinia 85 Sanna et al. (2011) 1.00%
Italy Sardinia (Ogliastra) 475 Fraumene C et al. (2003) 0.00%[52]
Italy Sardinia 96 Morelli et al. (1999) 0.00%
Italy Campania (South Italy) 313 Achilli et al. (2007) 0.32%
Italy Basilicata (South Italy) 92 Ottoni et al. (2009) 2.20%
Italy Apulia & Calabria (South Italy) 226 Achilli et al. (2007) 0.00%
Italy Southern Italy 115 Sarno et al. (2014) 0.00%
Italy Southern Italy 37 Plaza et al. (2003) 8.10%
Italy Sicily 106 Cali et al. (2003) 0.94%
Italy Sicily 105 Achilli et al. (2007) 1.90%
Italy Sicily 169 Plaza et al. (2003) 0.60%
Italy Sicily 198 Sarno et al. (2014) 1.01%
Italy Sicily 465 Romano et al. (2013) 0.65%[53]
South Iberia Spain & Portugal 310 Casas et al. (2006) 5.40%
Spain Countrywide 312 Álvarez et al. (2007) 2.90%
Spain Central Spain 50 Plaza et al. (2003) 4.00%
Spain North-West Spain 216 Achilli et al. (2007) 3.70%
Spain Galicia 92 Pereira et al. (2005) 3.30%
Spain Zamora 214 Álvarez et al. (2010) 4.70%
Spain Sayago 33 Álvarez et al. (2010) 8.18%
Spain Cordoba 108 Casas et al. (2006) 8.30%
Spain Huelva 135 Hernandez et al. (2014) 5.70%
Spain Catalonia 101 Álvarez-Iglesias et al. (2009) 2.97%
Spain Balearic Islands 231 Picornell et al. (2005) 2.20%
Spain Canary Islands 300 Brehm et al. (2003) 6.60%
Portugal Countrywide 594 Achilli et al. (2007) 8.90%
Portugal Countrywide 1429 Barral-Arca et al. (2016) 6.16%
Portugal Countrywide 549 Pereira et al. (2005) 6.83%
Portugal North 100 Pereira et al. (2010) 5.00%
Portugal Center 82 Pereira et al. (2010) 9.70%
Portugal Center 82 Plaza et al. (2003) 6.10%
Portugal South 195 Brehm et al. (2003) 11.30%
Portugal South 303 Achilli et al. (2007) 10.80%
Portugal Coruche 160 Pereira et al. (2010) 8.70%
Portugal Pias 75 Pereira et al. (2010) 3.90%
Portugal Alcácer do Sal 50 Pereira et al. (2010) 22.00%
Portugal Azores 179 Brehm et al. (2003) 3.40%
Portugal Madeira 155 Brehm et al. (2003) 12.90%
Portugal Madeira 153 Fernandes et al. (2006) 12.40%
Greece Crete 202 Achilli et al. (2007) 2.99%
Cyprus Cyprus 91 Irwin et al. (2008) 3.30%

This is frequencies of Haplogroup L lineages, MTDNA, the own link you had says it comes from a pre-historic source and this is only Haplogroup Lineages, Autosomal DNA shows all Italians have under 1% Sub-Saharan admixture.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/41342-Italian-Sicilian-and-Greek-23andme-results! 23andme I am pretty sure counts all ancestry within 1000 years. If you take into account the entire Italian ethnic genome 10,000+ years, the total non-Caucasoid admixture is only 0.5-3% depending on the person.

The Indigenous population of India were not Proto-Caucasoids, they were Australoids and they were bred out through vast mixing between Onge, East Asians and Australoids themselves resulting in the modern Tribal Hybrid populations which are many Adavasi tribes.

As for Non-Caucasoid DNA Haplogroups in India.

https://www.quora.com/Are-Indians-more-specifically-North-Indians-a-different-race-than-Caucasian-Europeans I liked this guys explanation.

MTDNA
"60% Indians have mtDNA H & M that are of Onge, Andamanese or Negrito (non-Caucasoid) mtDNA variation. Rest 40% is Caucasian or central Asian Aryan haplogroups. More info : "

"An English mixed with an Arab is still 100% Caucasoid because they are both Caucasians. But that’s not the case in India. Indian mixture includes non-Caucasoid gene flows—which is quiet evident in our semi-Caucasoid, semi-Austro-Asiatic features. The Caucasoid or Aryan part starts from Punjab & Pakistan border . India is a non-Aryan mixed nation, with an Aryan past."

"Mitochondrial DNA[edit]
Analysis of mtDNA, which is inherited exclusively by maternal descent, confirms the above results. All Andamanese belong to M31 and M32 mtDNA, subgroup of M which is unique to Andamanese people.[32][34] The analysis of 20 coding regions in 20 samples of ancient Andamanese people and 12 samples of modern Indian populations changed the topology of the two lineages in South Asians. The data received suggests an M31a lineage in South Asians. This supports the genetic connection between South Asians and Andamanese people, which dates back to about 30kya.[42] Other mainland specific subgroup of M is distributed in the Asia, where it represents 60% of all maternal lineages.[41][43][44] According to Endicott et al. (2002), this haplogroup originated with the earliest settlers of India during the coastal migration that brought the ancestors of the Andamanese to the Indian mainland, the Andaman Islands, and farther afield to Southeast Asia.[45]"

Y-DNA

https://i.imgur.com/TB3eV7k.jpg There is also Haplogroup Q which is in small numbers with some of the more racially pure South Asian ethnic groups.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_South_Asia

Italians don't have any non-Caucasoid Y-DNA Haplogroups.

Y-DNA haplogroups are irrelevant compared to Autosomal DNA anyway, the Autosomaal DNA takes into account all of ones ancestry. This "proto caaucasoid" natives in India is nothing but a fantasy in my opinion, the Indigenous people were Haplogroup O and Q by Y-DNA, these are Non-Caucasoid lineages, they always have been.

[ButlerKing]

This is frequencies of Haplogroup L lineages, MTDNA, the own link you had says it comes from a pre-historic source and this is only Haplogroup Lineages, Autosomal DNA shows all Italians have under 1% Sub-Saharan admixture.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/41342-Italian-Sicilian-and-Greek-23andme-results! 23andme I am pretty sure counts all ancestry within 1000 years. If you take into account the entire Italian ethnic genome 10,000+ years, the total non-Caucasoid admixture is only 0.5-3% depending on the person.

The Indigenous population of India were not Proto-Caucasoids, they were Australoids and they were bred out through vast mixing between Onge, East Asians and Australoids themselves resulting in the modern Tribal Hybrid populations which are many Adavasi tribes.

As for Non-Caucasoid DNA Haplogroups in India.

https://www.quora.com/Are-Indians-more-specifically-North-Indians-a-different-race-than-Caucasian-Europeans I liked this guys explanation.

MTDNA
"60% Indians have mtDNA H & M that are of Onge, Andamanese or Negrito (non-Caucasoid) mtDNA variation. Rest 40% is Caucasian or central Asian Aryan haplogroups. More info : "

"An English mixed with an Arab is still 100% Caucasoid because they are both Caucasians. But that’s not the case in India. Indian mixture includes non-Caucasoid gene flows—which is quiet evident in our semi-Caucasoid, semi-Austro-Asiatic features. The Caucasoid or Aryan part starts from Punjab & Pakistan border . India is a non-Aryan mixed nation, with an Aryan past."

"Mitochondrial DNA[edit]
Analysis of mtDNA, which is inherited exclusively by maternal descent, confirms the above results. All Andamanese belong to M31 and M32 mtDNA, subgroup of M which is unique to Andamanese people.[32][34] The analysis of 20 coding regions in 20 samples of ancient Andamanese people and 12 samples of modern Indian populations changed the topology of the two lineages in South Asians. The data received suggests an M31a lineage in South Asians. This supports the genetic connection between South Asians and Andamanese people, which dates back to about 30kya.[42] Other mainland specific subgroup of M is distributed in the Asia, where it represents 60% of all maternal lineages.[41][43][44] According to Endicott et al. (2002), this haplogroup originated with the earliest settlers of India during the coastal migration that brought the ancestors of the Andamanese to the Indian mainland, the Andaman Islands, and farther afield to Southeast Asia.[45]"

Y-DNA

https://i.imgur.com/TB3eV7k.jpg There is also Haplogroup Q which is in small numbers with some of the more racially pure South Asian ethnic groups.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_South_Asia

Italians don't have any non-Caucasoid Y-DNA Haplogroups.

Y-DNA haplogroups are irrelevant compared to Autosomal DNA anyway, the Autosomaal DNA takes into account all of ones ancestry. This "proto caaucasoid" natives in India is nothing but a fantasy in my opinion, the Indigenous people were Haplogroup O and Q by Y-DNA, these are Non-Caucasoid lineages, they always have been.

mtDNA L in Europe comes from both pre-historic, alantic slave trade. Italians have from 0.2% to 2.7% Sub-Saharan admixture.

Indigenous population of India were the ASI proto-Caucasoids and some of them have interbred with Onge and East Asians and that's why they don't pure veddoid proto-Caucasoid morphologies.

Haplogroup O and Q are both markers expanded from East Asia/Southeast Asia and were not indigenous to India. Haplogroup O is only restricted in Eastern India and is no surprise the Austro-Asiatic tribes having different degrees of East Asian admixture and Q is almost mostly limited to Eastern India not western India. However haplogroup Q , O reaches only among the tribal population.

Like I said before, India is most diverse ethnically and linguistic population in the world. India itself would be like Europe today if there was no unification.


M31a in India is extremely rare, nearly non-existant with exception of some tribal people

Here are the indigenous haplogroups of South Asians people, nothing to do with Onge nor East Asians.

http://media.springernature.com/lw785/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1186%2F1471-2156-5-26/MediaObjects/12863_2004_Article_198_Fig1_HTML.jpg

http://media.springernature.com/lw785/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1186%2F1471-2156-5-26/MediaObjects/12863_2004_Article_198_Fig3_HTML.jpg

http://media.springernature.com/lw785/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1186%2F1471-2156-5-26/MediaObjects/12863_2004_Article_198_Fig2_HTML.jpg

[Fractal]

The entire premise is trying to deny Non-Caucasoid admixture with upper caste South Asians.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2012/12/racial-composition-and-history-of-india.html Hate this blog all you want, he uses sources from other sites.

DNA evidence confirms what historians, linguists and anthropologists have long known but nationalists have denied: that Indians are mainly a mix of indigenous Australoids and intrusive Caucasoids. They're composed of two genetic components, one related to Andaman Islanders and the other to Western Eurasians, which is higher in upper castes. The estimated dates of admixture between the two are consistent with the introduction of Indo-Aryan languages from the northwest and probably also earlier events related to the spread of Dravidian languages and even agriculture.

Indians are neither Caucasoid nor mixed. You just want Indians to mix with Whites in Canada by making them think they are genetic mongrels like mestizos or mulattos which is absolute nonsense.

If you want to purify anyone, go make babes with some Murican, Latina, Mulatta, or even better just go for a MENA. They like you, not Indians.

[MagnusAurelius]

mtDNA L in Europe comes from both pre-historic, alantic slave trade. Italians have from 0.2% to 2.7% Sub-Saharan admixture.

Indigenous population of India were the ASI proto-Caucasoids and some of them have interbred with Onge and East Asians and that's why they don't pure veddoid proto-Caucasoid morphologies.

Haplogroup O and Q are both markers expanded from East Asia/Southeast Asia and were not indigenous to India. Haplogroup O is only restricted in Eastern India and is no surprise the Austro-Asiatic tribes so different degrees of East Asian admixture and Q is almost mostly limited to Eastern India not western India. However haplogroup Q , O reaches only among the tribal population.

Like I said before, India is most diverse ethnically and linguistic population in the world. India itself would be like Europe today if there was no unification.


M31a in India is extremely rare, nearly non-existant with exception of some tribal people

Here are the indigenous haplogroups of South Asians people, nothing to do with Onge nor East Asians.

http://media.springernature.com/lw785/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1186%2F1471-2156-5-26/MediaObjects/12863_2004_Article_198_Fig1_HTML.jpg

http://media.springernature.com/lw785/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1186%2F1471-2156-5-26/MediaObjects/12863_2004_Article_198_Fig3_HTML.jpg

http://media.springernature.com/lw785/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1186%2F1471-2156-5-26/MediaObjects/12863_2004_Article_198_Fig2_HTML.jpg

Haplogroup O and Q are still present among some Upper Caste populations outside of Eastern India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_South_Asia

You are trying to prove that non-Tribal South Asians are racially pure Caucasoids, you believe the all of the ASI component itself represents this pseudo "Proto-Caucasoid" native race of India. This is nothing but a fantasy. It is widely acknowledged that the original ASI population, the first indigenous people of India don't exist in their purest form anymore.

https://www.nature.com/news/genomes-link-aboriginal-australians-to-indians-1.12219 Genomes link aboriginal Australians to Indians. This seems like it was a back migration from India.

I am convinced the original race of India were the Australoids. The Australoids were effectively bred out through vast mixing with East Asians and to a lesser extent the Onge/Andamese/Negrito populations. This mixing resulted in the modern Adavasi populations who all have primarily Non-Caucasoid admixture but many of them have 5-15% Caucasoid admixture due to mixing with the Invading Dravidian Caucasoids and the later IndoAryan invaders most likely accumulated their non-Caucasoid admixture from mostly mixing with the already mixed Dravidians.


Indians are far more mixed than Italians and all Europeans, especially when you count Ancient DNA. When you count Ancient DNA, more non-Caucasoid admixture will appear, that is why on 23andme all Italians score under 1% SSA but in other DNA tests they score 1-3% SSA because those Autosomal DNA tests are counting all DNA 10,000+ years ago.

This K12 Ancient calculator is very accurate for South Asians, they used South Indian tribals as a reference population.

https://i.imgur.com/kQNnx6o.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/EqNWxmT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/trndnfF.jpg This is the reference population they used and all South Asians core high amounts of this admixture. They have high amounts of this due to the South Indian tribal admixture, if there South Indian tribals were not included in this reference, they would have less than 5% admixture from this region. The South Indian tribals themselves (basically all of the Adavasi) have varrying amounts of Caucasoid admixture depending on the tribe, it can be safe to assume that at least 10-15% of this component (for South Indian tribals) would be Caucasoid. This is not much so overall, the Punjabi Rajput here would still have around 26% Non-Caucasoid admixture.

These are my results, this is one of the most accurate Ancient DNA calculators ever created. I only have around 1.8-2% Non-Caucasoid admixture counting all of my DNA from present to 10,000 years ago, I am pretty sure your Ancient DNA is accounting for everything, your entire genome from now until 10,000 years ago unlike 23andme which is only analyzing your raw DNA Data from up to 1000 years ago, essentially why my Sub-Saharan component on 23andme is only 0.3%.

https://i.imgur.com/FaQlX1M.jpg

[MagnusAurelius]

Indians are neither Caucasoid nor mixed. You just want Indians to mix with Whites in Canada by making them think they are genetic mongrels like mestizos or mulattos which is absolute nonsense.

If you want to purify anyone, go make babes with some Murican, Latina, Mulatta, or even better just go for a MENA. They like you, not Indians.

Autistic repetition from the weak mentally ill virgin mixed race mutt, saying stupid things doesn't change the reality that I had sex with 8 South Asian females multiple times pathetic little virgin.

[ButlerKing]

Haplogroup O and Q are still present among some Upper Caste populations outside of Eastern India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_South_Asia


You are trying to prove that non-Tribal South Asians are racially pure Caucasoids, you believe the all of the ASI component itself represents this pseudo "Proto-Caucasoid" native race of India. This is nothing but a fantasy. It is widely acknowledged that the original ASI population, the first indigenous people of India don't exist in their purest form anymore.

https://www.nature.com/news/genomes-link-aboriginal-australians-to-indians-1.12219 Genomes link aboriginal Australians to Indians. This seems like it was a back migration from India.

I am convinced the original race of India were the Australoids. The Australoids were effectively bred out through vast mixing with East Asians and to a lesser extent the Onge/Andamese/Negrito populations. This mixing resulted in the modern Adavasi populations who all have primarily Non-Caucasoid admixture but many of them have 5-15% Caucasoid admixture due to mixing with the Invading Dravidian Caucasoids and the later IndoAryan invaders most likely accumulated their non-Caucasoid admixture from mostly mixing with the already mixed Dravidians.


Indians are far more mixed than Italians and all Europeans, especially when you count Ancient DNA. When you count Ancient DNA, more non-Caucasoid admixture will appear, that is why on 23andme all Italians score under 1% SSA but in other DNA tests they score 1-3% SSA because those Autosomal DNA tests are counting all DNA 10,000+ years ago.

This K12 Ancient calculator is very accurate for South Asians, they used South Indian tribals as a reference population.

https://i.imgur.com/kQNnx6o.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/EqNWxmT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/trndnfF.jpg This is the reference population they used and all South Asians core high amounts of this admixture. They have high amounts of this due to the South Indian tribal admixture, if there South Indian tribals were not included in this reference, they would have less than 5% admixture from this region. The South Indian tribals themselves (basically all of the Adavasi) have varrying amounts of Caucasoid admixture depending on the tribe, it can be safe to assume that at least 10-15% of this component (for South Indian tribals) would be Caucasoid. This is not much so overall, the Punjabi Rajput here would still have around 26% Non-Caucasoid admixture.

These are my results, this is one of the most accurate Ancient DNA calculators ever created. I only have around 1.8-2% Non-Caucasoid admixture counting all of my DNA from present to 10,000 years ago, I am pretty sure your Ancient DNA is accounting for everything, your entire genome from now until 10,000 years ago unlike 23andme which is only analyzing your raw DNA Data from up to 1000 years ago, essentially why my Sub-Saharan component on 23andme is only 0.3%.

https://i.imgur.com/FaQlX1M.jpg

Italians are Caucasoid with slight negroid and Mongoloid admixture, you don't represent overall Italians because you're only 50% but regardless you're not PURE EITHER. You are 2.8% Negroid, properly your Italian parent is 5.6% Negroid. South Asians are pure Caucasoid but with a combination of West Eurasian and ASI proto/ancient Caucasoid while Europeans on the other hand do not have proto-Caucasoid traits. ASI is proto-Caucasoid and this isn't anywhere near a fantasy even Eickstedt placed Veddoids among the 'old-Europid race'

You keep saying " DRAVIDIAN CAUCASOIDS " yes we all know the dravidians are Caucasoid but I hope you get this clear in your head before you keep making more assumptions and misunderstandings.

1) They were Caucasoids that looked nothing like Europeans, Middle easterners but like modern day Southern Indians/Central Indians

2) Modern day Dravidian speakers are all Caucasoids-Veddoids like ancient Dravidians Caucasoid aka Veddoids Caucasoids.


The ancient population of Middle east, Central Asia already had a veddoid-Caucasoid population before the Semetic, West Asian farmers, Indo-European speaking migrants moved in.


I SUGGEST YOU READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY

The Visva-bharati Quarterly, Volume 33

https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=b35DAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE73OnKOrn8v7jwP0V2Em19-cTOaSCxescr4ci4veeziUgxKKffBj26HS_xxNZbU0TXISbA8p2 MqEHUXJTCbLvVWj0sBt9ylMBR12FNBqpxn9rzwf5Nw

"Earliest Iranian Inhabitants were early caucasoids, who probably resembled some of the marginal caucasoids of Asia like the Veddas and Dravidians, more than they did the more sturdily built living central Europeans."


The Balangodese of Ceylon: Their Biological and Cultural Affinities with the Vedda, Volume 1

https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=_2BKAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE72RGoeFkqu_adZIGSCG1kUjH0UFJyaPtRfQb82Y 3DS0A4m87gM-Ewd4GjexozN39Bup9UsDAKykyOn_LATxA3pJedT_vsppJgs6xc 7_-YgFDuIXpi-aFR1u0EJSVAydapkFeX3M


"Their Biological and Cultural Affinities with the Vedda Kenneth A. R. Kennedy. In Biasutti's (1951, Vol. ... 173) classifies the Vedda and other "anomalous tribes" of the subcontinent as one sub-group of the Caucasian Race. Bertin (1889) "


Do you understand now ? Veddas are classified as sub-group of Caucasian race and ancient Iran were more similar to Dravidian Caucasoids aka Veddoid-Caucasoids




https://i.imgur.com/trndnfF.jpg

What is this Southeast Eurasian cluster ? a new cluster some idiot made up? Did they included Veddoid with Onge again ? Keywords: possibly, somewhat.

It says believed to be somewhat similar ( what do you mean by somewhat similar to ) Onge, Jarawal tribal, SE Asians? Do they mean as in only 10-30% or 1-10% similar/related ???? if it's only somewhat similar than it can also be interpreted that among the 27.14% SE Eurasian admixtures found in Punjabi, only around roughly 1-3% or 5-8% are related at most. They also mention that it's relationship it's only a possibility not an actual fact like you had exaggerated it to be.

You're either similar or not similar and all they said was "somewhat similar" which means they are not even 50% related but way below it. It can only be interpreted to either as little similar to some degree similar, no more than that.

What is the definition of " somewhat "

* to a moderate extent or by a moderate amount;

* synonyms: a little, a bit, a little bit, to a limited extent/degree, to a certain degree, to some extent, to some degree, (up) to a point, in some measure, rather, quite, within limits.



Allow me to post this again.

There's a difference between West Eurasian, ASI , Onge

Europe = West Eurasian, West Asian, Southwest Asian (from Europeans to Arabs, North Africans, Kurdish, Afghans, Iraqi's
South Asian = ASI typical South Asian population and Veddoids
Onge = Adamanese, Jarawa

What do you see in the Punjabi section ?
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/10/roma2.png

[Fractal]

Italians are Caucasoid with slight negroid and Mongoloid admixture, you don't represent overall Italians because you're only 50% but regardless you're not PURE EITHER. You are 2.8% Negroid, properly your Italian parent is 5.6% Negroid. South Asians are pure Caucasoid but with a combination of West Eurasian and ASI proto/ancient Caucasoid while Europeans on the other hand do not have proto-Caucasoid traits. ASI is proto-Caucasoid and this isn't anywhere near a fantasy even Eickstedt placed Veddoids among the 'old-Europid race'

You keep saying " DRAVIDIAN CAUCASOIDS " yes we all know the dravidians are Caucasoid but I hope you get this clear in your head before you keep making more assumptions and misunderstandings.

1) They were Caucasoids that looked nothing like Europeans, Middle easterners but like modern day Southern Indians/Central Indians

2) Modern day Dravidian speakers are all Caucasoids-Veddoids like ancient Dravidians Caucasoid aka Veddoids Caucasoids.


The ancient population of Middle east, Central Asia already had a veddoid-Caucasoid population before the Semetic, West Asian farmers, Indo-European speaking migrants moved in.


I SUGGEST YOU READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY

The Visva-bharati Quarterly, Volume 33

https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=b35DAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE73OnKOrn8v7jwP0V2Em19-cTOaSCxescr4ci4veeziUgxKKffBj26HS_xxNZbU0TXISbA8p2 MqEHUXJTCbLvVWj0sBt9ylMBR12FNBqpxn9rzwf5Nw

"Earliest Iranian Inhabitants were early caucasoids, who probably resembled some of the marginal caucasoids of Asia like the Veddas and Dravidians, more than they did the more sturdily built living central Europeans."


The Balangodese of Ceylon: Their Biological and Cultural Affinities with the Vedda, Volume 1

https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=_2BKAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE72RGoeFkqu_adZIGSCG1kUjH0UFJyaPtRfQb82Y 3DS0A4m87gM-Ewd4GjexozN39Bup9UsDAKykyOn_LATxA3pJedT_vsppJgs6xc 7_-YgFDuIXpi-aFR1u0EJSVAydapkFeX3M


"Their Biological and Cultural Affinities with the Vedda Kenneth A. R. Kennedy. In Biasutti's (1951, Vol. ... 173) classifies the Vedda and other "anomalous tribes" of the subcontinent as one sub-group of the Caucasian Race. Bertin (1889) "


Do you understand now ? Veddas are classified as sub-group of Caucasian race and ancient Iran were more similar to Dravidian Caucasoids aka Veddoid-Caucasoids





What is this Southeast Eurasian cluster ? a new cluster some idiot made up? Did they included Veddoid with Onge again ? Keywords: possibly, somewhat.

It says believed to be somewhat similar ( what do you mean by somewhat similar to ) Onge, Jarawal tribal, SE Asians? Do they mean as in only 10-30% or 1-10% similar/related ???? if it's only somewhat similar than it can also be interpreted that among the 27.14% SE Eurasian admixtures found in Punjabi, only around roughly 1-3% or 5-8% are related at most. They also mention that it's relationship it's only a possibility not an actual fact like you had exaggerated it to be.

You're either similar or not similar and all they said was "somewhat similar" which means they are not even 50% related but way below it. It can only be interpreted to either as little similar to some degree similar, no more than that.

What is the definition of " somewhat "

* to a moderate extent or by a moderate amount;

* synonyms: a little, a bit, a little bit, to a limited extent/degree, to a certain degree, to some extent, to some degree, (up) to a point, in some measure, rather, quite, within limits.



Allow me to post this again.

There's a difference between West Eurasian, ASI , Onge

Europe = West Eurasian, West Asian, Southwest Asian (from Europeans to Arabs, North Africans, Kurdish, Afghans, Iraqi's
South Asian = ASI typical South Asian population and Veddoids
Onge = Adamanese, Jarawa

What do you see in the Punjabi section ?
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/10/roma2.png

Not sure why you're wasting your time with that stupid non-Aryan Italian-Irish moron. Who cares who is Caucasoid?

We're 100% Indian and that's all that matters.

[ButlerKing]

Not sure why you're wasting your time with that stupid non-Aryan Italian-Irish moron. Who cares who is Caucasoid?

We're 100% Indian and that's all that matters.

He needed to be taught a lesson.

[ButlerKing]

Autistic repetition from the weak mentally ill virgin mixed race mutt, saying stupid things doesn't change the reality that I had sex with 8 South Asian females multiple times pathetic little virgin.

A dumb unrealistic lie no one can take seriously. Fractal was right, I should just ignore you from now on.

[MagnusAurelius]

So cringeworthy, comparing clinical Albino's from India to Europeans implying "WE ARE WHITER THAN ITALIANS"!

I don't think ancestral genetics and Physical anthropology is the same, I believe you can associate specific admixture components with certain races if that component is not known to be a mixed one. I never said Caucasoid is by default "Europeans". Never have I implied or looked at skin color when deeming one Caucasoid or Non-Caucasoid, you are making things up, I never said or believed those things, all the pictures I linked were adavasi's who are mixed race and have non-Caucasoid facial features.

I don't care what people consider, I go by ancestral genetic evidence and Italians do not have significant amounts of SSA, Indians are more mixed.

You link that Cultural marxist left wing nonsense from Corporate owned BBC.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C0UmtW2cl8 Debunked. He was Haplogroup L and they made him look like a Negroid.

You are citing all this outdated information debunked information.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXc7dhxXv9M&t Even if you don't wanna believe this, there is this fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon Cro-Magnons were Proto-Caucasoids but I doubt this, I think there were various other populations who could have been refugees from Atlantis.


Caucasoid skull Mladec 1 (31,000 B.P., Czech Republic ).
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DTF1GC/homo-sapiens-cranium-mladec-1-DTF1GC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wJXUuVs.jpg

More like Butler Cuck needed to be taught a lesson when he started citing Cultural marxist nonsense, he can't seem to debunk this can he?

[MagnusAurelius]

Italians are Caucasoid with slight negroid and Mongoloid admixture, you don't represent overall Italians because you're only 50% but regardless you're not PURE EITHER. You are 2.8% Negroid, properly your Italian parent is 5.6% Negroid. South Asians are pure Caucasoid but with a combination of West Eurasian and ASI proto/ancient Caucasoid while Europeans on the other hand do not have proto-Caucasoid traits. ASI is proto-Caucasoid and this isn't anywhere near a fantasy even Eickstedt placed Veddoids among the 'old-Europid race'

You keep saying " DRAVIDIAN CAUCASOIDS " yes we all know the dravidians are Caucasoid but I hope you get this clear in your head before you keep making more assumptions and misunderstandings.

1) They were Caucasoids that looked nothing like Europeans, Middle easterners but like modern day Southern Indians/Central Indians

2) Modern day Dravidian speakers are all Caucasoids-Veddoids like ancient Dravidians Caucasoid aka Veddoids Caucasoids.


The ancient population of Middle east, Central Asia already had a veddoid-Caucasoid population before the Semetic, West Asian farmers, Indo-European speaking migrants moved in.


I SUGGEST YOU READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY

The Visva-bharati Quarterly, Volume 33

https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=b35DAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE73OnKOrn8v7jwP0V2Em19-cTOaSCxescr4ci4veeziUgxKKffBj26HS_xxNZbU0TXISbA8p2 MqEHUXJTCbLvVWj0sBt9ylMBR12FNBqpxn9rzwf5Nw

"Earliest Iranian Inhabitants were early caucasoids, who probably resembled some of the marginal caucasoids of Asia like the Veddas and Dravidians, more than they did the more sturdily built living central Europeans."


The Balangodese of Ceylon: Their Biological and Cultural Affinities with the Vedda, Volume 1

https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=_2BKAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE72RGoeFkqu_adZIGSCG1kUjH0UFJyaPtRfQb82Y 3DS0A4m87gM-Ewd4GjexozN39Bup9UsDAKykyOn_LATxA3pJedT_vsppJgs6xc 7_-YgFDuIXpi-aFR1u0EJSVAydapkFeX3M


"Their Biological and Cultural Affinities with the Vedda Kenneth A. R. Kennedy. In Biasutti's (1951, Vol. ... 173) classifies the Vedda and other "anomalous tribes" of the subcontinent as one sub-group of the Caucasian Race. Bertin (1889) "


Do you understand now ? Veddas are classified as sub-group of Caucasian race and ancient Iran were more similar to Dravidian Caucasoids aka Veddoid-Caucasoids





What is this Southeast Eurasian cluster ? a new cluster some idiot made up? Did they included Veddoid with Onge again ? Keywords: possibly, somewhat.

It says believed to be somewhat similar ( what do you mean by somewhat similar to ) Onge, Jarawal tribal, SE Asians? Do they mean as in only 10-30% or 1-10% similar/related ???? if it's only somewhat similar than it can also be interpreted that among the 27.14% SE Eurasian admixtures found in Punjabi, only around roughly 1-3% or 5-8% are related at most. They also mention that it's relationship it's only a possibility not an actual fact like you had exaggerated it to be.

You're either similar or not similar and all they said was "somewhat similar" which means they are not even 50% related but way below it. It can only be interpreted to either as little similar to some degree similar, no more than that.

What is the definition of " somewhat "

* to a moderate extent or by a moderate amount;

* synonyms: a little, a bit, a little bit, to a limited extent/degree, to a certain degree, to some extent, to some degree, (up) to a point, in some measure, rather, quite, within limits.



Allow me to post this again.

There's a difference between West Eurasian, ASI , Onge

Europe = West Eurasian, West Asian, Southwest Asian (from Europeans to Arabs, North Africans, Kurdish, Afghans, Iraqi's
South Asian = ASI typical South Asian population and Veddoids
Onge = Adamanese, Jarawa

What do you see in the Punjabi section ?
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/10/roma2.png


Not gonna read old out-dated works of Anthropology. ASI is a mixed component, enjoy your fantasies or magically pure "Proto Caucasoid" Indians. The Indigenous people of India were Australoids who mixed with East Asians and to a lesser extent Onge, the Caucasoid Dravidian's further mixed with them when they migrated into India. When the Harrapan paper is published, it will clear up many things. No use debating it anymore.

:punjabidance 23andme showed me to be 0.3% SSA, this is Ancient DNA, the East African component probably has a .8% Caucasoid component. You are hellbent on trying to prove Indians are more racially pure Caucasoids, nothing but a fantasy, cut your South East Eurasian component in half and I am still more racially pure than you. :punjabidance

[Fractal]

Not gonna read old out-dated works of Anthropology. ASI is a mixed component, enjoy your fantasies or magically pure "Proto Caucasoid" Indians. The Indigenous people of India were Australoids who mixed with East Asians and to a lesser extent Onge, the Caucasoid Dravidian's further mixed with them when they migrated into India. When the Harrapan paper is published, it will clear up many things. No use debating it anymore.

:punjabidance 23andme showed me to be 0.3% SSA, this is Ancient DNA, the East African component probably has a .8% Caucasoid component. You are hellbent on trying to prove Indians are more racially pure Caucasoids, nothing but a fantasy, cut your South East Eurasian component in half and I am still more racially pure than you. :punjabidance

Indians are proto-Indic, and its you Europeans especially Southern Europeans who are the mixed breeds. Go away and stop caring about Indians non-Aryan.

[Hashoeva]

south-asians to me look far less caucasoid.

[MagnusAurelius]

south-asians to me look far less caucasoid.

I can literally find a European Facial features equivalent to every woman here if I really tried, it doesn't matter which caste, even Tribals, no Adavasi's on here since they have no access to the Internet.

https://www.jeevansathi.com/matrimonials/brahmin-matrimonial/

The difference is many more of them have undesired Caucasoid features buy comparison. It doesn't matter which Caste, no phenotype will be universal for reach of them. They are all mixed, they look Caucasoid because a significant amount of their Non-Caucasoid admixture comes from the Mesolithic/Early Neolithic.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?226922-Whites-who-looks-pseudo-octoroons Much like the short Stub noses shown here.

http://imgdj.s3.amazonaws.com/jitendra-and-charlie-sheen-doppelganger.jpeg

[MagnusAurelius]

Indians are proto-Indic, and its you Europeans especially Southern Europeans who are the mixed breeds. Go away and stop caring about Indians non-Aryan.

There was never an Indigenous non-Caucasoid population in Italy and you actually think Southern Europeans are more mixed than South Asians, enjoy your delusions. ASI is a mixed component, always has been, always will be. Have fun being an insecure scumbag. I am sure you feel compelled to respond now since you are my easily trolled little cuck.

[CrinjaNinja]

What about the Northern Han Chinese? They are 100% Caucasoid enough anthropologically (despite their epicanthic folds) because of their long, narrow noses, but not genetically. They are almost pure Mongoloid/East Asian as in 99.9%, but less than the other Han Chinese (which are the purest Mongoloid genetically).

[CrinjaNinja]

Pure Caucasoids didn't exist in real life, if you're talking about the people of the Caucasus. Yes, there's the purest West Eurasians in the world: Sardinians, Anatolians, and even Ainu Jomons (with hypothetical relation to the ASI people).

[neclar]

It's all an invention, a way to classify races.

[CrinjaNinja]

Even South Asians can't be 'pure' Caucasoids. There is still a significant Mongoloid admixture from the Adivasis if you include those in South Asians. Though you're right about Indians primarily being of "Caucasoid" race.

Secondly, not everyone is pure of any race, especially Mongoloids, where Native Americans, which are supposedly part of the "Mongolian/Mongoloid" ethnic group aren't even 100% Mongoloid by genetics (with the exception of certain Han Chinese ethnic groups). Just a reminder, GENETICS =/= ANTHROPOLOGY. Sure, it's possible to be anthropologically full Caucasoid, Negroid, Australoid, Mongoloid, or whatever... but definitely not genetically.

THIS has been strictly proven with FACTS. Thank you for reading and hopefully you understand everything what I said.

[CrinjaNinja]

Sure, it's possible to be anthropologically full Caucasoid, Negroid, Australoid, Mongoloid, or whatever... but definitely not genetically.

The exception, of course, can go to Koreans. Ethnic Koreans are known to be the most homogenous ethnic groups in the world. Not only can they pass as 100% Mongoloid phenotypically, but also genetically. According to DNA analyses of Koreans, the majority of Koreans, both modern and ancient, can have up to 100% East Eurasian related ancestry.

Whether it's tied to endogamous culture/tradition or not, ethnicity estimates in Koreans may not score this amount as exactly 100.0%, but super super close to it.

There are a plenty of other ethnicities that belong to this exception as well. Those who weren't allowed to mix with other ethnicities under a strict law of endogamy for milennia. We've got the Sentinelese people, the world's untouched and isolated tribes who speak almost no language.

[Psycho]

Real