Sikeliot
10-15-2017, 12:46 AM
To me, it is the following:
1. Mainland Greeks and southern Italians. The former are no closer to the latter than to Balkan Slavs, and are closer to Albanians than to ANY type of Italian, from a genetic point of view. You can model Greeks as 70-75% Sicilian and the rest Polish or Russian, and Sicilians and southern Italians as 70-75% Greek and 25-30% Levantine. These differences could not possibly not show phenotypically and to suggest otherwise defies common sense.
2. English vs Irish/Scottish/Welsh: the former are NOT Anglo-Saxon invaders and the latter pure Celts. The British Isles are so mixed with one another and all of these as well as all NW Euros share a common Bell Beaker base. Apart from SE England, which is still genetically overlapping with even Ireland to some extent, this assumption falls flat: many Scots have Anglo-Saxon input as well as Viking on par with some parts of England, parts of Ireland such as Leinster have significant British input, southwest Scotland has Irish input. The Welsh, if any, are the only ones who are isolated and even they have not remained unmixed.
3. Cypriots are significantly Levantine and Pontic Greeks are significantly Caucasian. Enough said.
4. Southern French are genetically significantly "north" of North Italians and Iberians. Regardless of appearance. No part of France is wholesale Northern or Southern European.. from Normandy to Nice, they're all intermediate.
5. Madeiran Portuguese and Canarian Spaniards have a small amount of African ancestry from the slave trade. It shows in haplogroups and on a low level, autosomally and has been confirmed by peer reviewed studies as well as GEDmatch and 23andme results.
1. Mainland Greeks and southern Italians. The former are no closer to the latter than to Balkan Slavs, and are closer to Albanians than to ANY type of Italian, from a genetic point of view. You can model Greeks as 70-75% Sicilian and the rest Polish or Russian, and Sicilians and southern Italians as 70-75% Greek and 25-30% Levantine. These differences could not possibly not show phenotypically and to suggest otherwise defies common sense.
2. English vs Irish/Scottish/Welsh: the former are NOT Anglo-Saxon invaders and the latter pure Celts. The British Isles are so mixed with one another and all of these as well as all NW Euros share a common Bell Beaker base. Apart from SE England, which is still genetically overlapping with even Ireland to some extent, this assumption falls flat: many Scots have Anglo-Saxon input as well as Viking on par with some parts of England, parts of Ireland such as Leinster have significant British input, southwest Scotland has Irish input. The Welsh, if any, are the only ones who are isolated and even they have not remained unmixed.
3. Cypriots are significantly Levantine and Pontic Greeks are significantly Caucasian. Enough said.
4. Southern French are genetically significantly "north" of North Italians and Iberians. Regardless of appearance. No part of France is wholesale Northern or Southern European.. from Normandy to Nice, they're all intermediate.
5. Madeiran Portuguese and Canarian Spaniards have a small amount of African ancestry from the slave trade. It shows in haplogroups and on a low level, autosomally and has been confirmed by peer reviewed studies as well as GEDmatch and 23andme results.