Two Sicilian MyHeritage results from western Sicily.

[Sikeliot]

1. Santa Margherita di Belice:

https://www.weather-forecast.com/locationmaps/Santa-Margherita-di-Belice.8.gif

Europe: 71.5%
Greek: 51.5%
Italian: 9.3%
Iberian: 7.7%
Ashkenazi Jewish: 3%
North Africa: 20.2%
Moroccan Jewish: 19.2%
North African: 1%
Middle East: 8.3%


2. Cattolica Eraclea:

https://www.weather-forecast.com/locationmaps/Cattolica-Eraclea.10.gif

Europe: 63.3%
Iberian: 31.2%
Greek: 23.8%
Italian: 6.6%
Ashkenazi Jewish: 1.7%
North Africa: 15.4%
Moroccan Jewish: 10.7%
North African: 4.7%
West Asia: 13.5%
Middle East: 7.8%

[Token]

Can you post results of Northwestern Sicilians?

[Sikeliot]

Can you post results of Northwestern Sicilians?

I've posted some before but here we go. The first three are from Palermo, the second two from Trapani.

Termini Imerese:

https://www.weather-forecast.com/locationmaps/Termini-Imerese.8.gif

Europe: 59.6%
Greek: 17.3%
Sardinian: 16.9%
Iberian: 12.2%
Italian: 8.4%
Ashkenazi Jewish: 4.8%
West Asian: 21.8%
North Africa: 18.6%
Moroccan Jewish: 18.6%


2. Carini: (part of my own ancestry is from this town)

https://www.weather-forecast.com/locationmaps/Carini.8.gif

Europe: 70.8%
Italian: 36.9%
Sardinian: 20.3%
Greek: 13.6%
West Asia: 11.8%
Middle East: 10.5%
North Africa: 6.9%


3. Carini:

Europe: 73.8%
Greek: 34.6%
Italian: 19.6%
Sardinian: 19.6%
Middle East: 10.5%
West Asia: 8.7%
North Africa: 7.0%


4. Castellammare del Golfo:

https://www.weather-forecast.com/locationmaps/Castellammare-del-Golfo.8.gif

Europe: 77.8%
Greek: 56.2%
Iberian: 16.3%
Italian: 5.3%
North Africa: 13.9%
Middle East: 8.3%


5. Salaparuta:

http://www.dgerolamo.net/dg-sicily.jpg

Europe: 74%
Italian: 48.8%
Greek: 21%
Ashkenazi: 2.4%
East Europe Baltic: 1.8%
North Africa: 17.3%
Moroccan Jewish: 16%
North African: 1.3%
Middle East: 8.7%

[Hudayar]

How the fuck do you even find that many Sicilian gedmatch results. American-Sicilians?
It's almost a Herculean task to find a Turkish gedmatch results.

[Sikeliot]

How the fuck do you even find that many Sicilian gedmatch results. American-Sicilians?
It's almost a Herculean task to find a Turkish gedmatch results.

I am part of a genealogy group.

For what it is worth, the main difference I notice in these between west and east Sicily is, the easterners have more Greek and less Moroccan Jewish. The Moroccan Jewish element is what differentiates the westerners, but I am unsure why they score it.

[Bobby Martnen]

Seems like people from Western Palermo province are more European than people from Eastern Palermo province

[Hadouken]

the more west asian you score the cooler you are tbh

[Tauromachos]

I am part of a genealogy group.

For what it is worth, the main difference I notice in these between west and east Sicily is, the easterners have more Greek and less Moroccan Jewish. The Moroccan Jewish element is what differentiates the westerners, but I am unsure why they score it.

Though these results are an exception aren't they

How do you explain that the second of these results gets Iberian at first place?

[kingjohn]

very cool results :)
high morocan jewish in them
thanks for sharing siceliot

[Tauromachos]

very cool results :)
high morocan jewish in them
thanks for sharing siceliot

Yes but they get it only after Greek,Italian, Iberian

He often claimed that West Sicilians are even closer to Jewish things than to any of these 3 ,thats why i find it odd.

Even Ashkenazi appears only after Greek and Italian in all results if i'm not mistaken.

[kingjohn]

yes agree with you it is not there major component but
what is weird why west Sicilians score it and not east sicilans
maybe Phoenician or Carthaginian element :confused:

[Tauromachos]

yes agree with you it is not there major component but
what is weird why west Sicilians score it and not east sicilans
maybe Phoenician or Carthaginian element :confused:

Yes i think http://explorethemed.com/Images/Maps/ClassicSic936.jpg
Western Sicily had Phoenician colonies the East had Greek colonies in ancient times.


Later also the Carthaginians conquered some parts of the Inland.

[Bosniensis]

ewww those sicilians are hardly europeans.

[Tauromachos]

ewww those sicilians are hardly europeans.

:confused:

[Bosniensis]

:confused:

Just kidding, they have a lot of Africa admixture :D

[Bobby Martnen]

ewww those sicilians are hardly europeans.

They're more European than you, mostly because you practice Islam.

They may be genetically closer to the Middle East than you, but your religion makes you alien to Europe.

[Bosniensis]

They're more European than you, mostly because you practice Islam.

They may be genetically closer to the Middle East than you, but your religion makes you alien to Europe.

Christianity is Alien in Europe.

I've always defended the viewpoint of our Emperor Diocletian (3rd century A.D) to eradicate Christianity from Europe, and that was his primary goal.

I am older than your Jesus and Christianity.

I've been in Europe longer than Christian religion.

If so called Christians could brought that Jewish Culture and Religion in Europe, I can do the same for Islam.

Toss off.

[Bobby Martnen]

Christianity is Alien in Europe.

I've always defended the viewpoint of our Emperor Diocletian (3rd century A.D) to eradicate Christianity from Europe, and that was his primary goal.

I am older than your Jesus and Christianity.

I've been in Europe longer than Christian religion.

If so called Christians could brought that Jewish Culture and Religion in Europe, I can do the same for Islam.

Toss off.

Christianity is not Alien to Europe. It originated in Greco-Roman Palestine, and represents a fusion of Greco-Roman and Judeo-Levantine elements.

Islam originated in pagan Arabia, and has nothing to do with European culture.

Islam is newer than Christianity, and my ancestors have been in Europe just as long as yours.

[Bosniensis]

Christianity is not Alien to Europe. It originated in Greco-Roman Palestine, and represents a fusion of Greco-Roman and Judeo-Levantine elements.

Islam originated in pagan Arabia, and has nothing to do with European culture.

Islam is newer than Christianity, and my ancestors have been in Europe just as long as yours.

Go kill yourself stupid moron.

Christianity emerged in Europe only when Emperor Constantine I stopped prosecuting that pagan religion in 305 A.D, 300 years after Jesus.

You are right, Islam has nothing to do with European Culture, Luckily it is I who decide what is European and what isn't and 7 million native Balkan Muslims.

[Sikeliot]

Seems like people from Western Palermo province are more European than people from Eastern Palermo province

They are slightly more so, but they also have more North African.

Eastern part of Palermo has some of the highest Near Eastern and some of the lowest North European on the entire island because Normans did not settle there, but Carthaginians did.

[Bobby Martnen]

They are slightly more so, but they also have more North African.

Eastern part of Palermo has some of the highest Near Eastern and some of the lowest North European on the entire island because Normans did not settle there, but Carthaginians did.

Maybe some Sicilians are descended from Hannibal

[Leto]

Go kill yourself stupid moron.

Christianity emerged in Europe only when Emperor Constantine I stopped prosecuting that pagan religion in 305 A.D, 300 years after Jesus.

You are right, Islam has nothing to do with European Culture, Luckily it is I who decide what is European and what isn't and 7 million native Balkan Muslims.
He is right. Islam in the Balkans is solely because of foreign (Turkish) occupation. Jews didn't impose Christianity on Europe, Europeans accepted it themselves. Islam has always been anti-European and your whole identity revolves around being Muslim, because without Islam the Bosniaks are Yugoslavs, Serbs, Croats or God knows what else. Thanks to the Ottomans. I can't say this about Albanians, because they are not necessarily Muslim and they have their own language.

[Cristiano viejo]

He is right. Islam in the Balkans is solely because of foreign (Turkish) occupation. Jews didn't impose Christianity on Europe, Europeans accepted it themselves. Islam has always been anti-European and your whole identity revolves around being Muslim, because without Islam the Bosniaks are Yugoslavs, Serbs, Croats or God knows what else. Thanks to the Ottomans. I can't say this about Albanians, because they are not necessarily Muslim and they have their own language.

Good point, Bosnia exists only because a Muslims created it, since Bosnia was part of Croatia. Islam there exists thanks this, it is not comparable with Christianity in the rest of Europe.

Albanian language contains near 5.000 Turkish words, so you do can say the same about Albanians.

[Leto]

Good point, Bosnia exists only because a Muslims created it, since Bosnia was part of Croatia. Islam there exists thanks this, it is not comparable with Christianity in the rest of Europe.

Albanian language contains near 5.000 Turkish words, so you do can say the same about Albanians.
Well, there are Christians (both Catholic and Orthodox) in Albania. 20% of the pop. or more. And the Albanian language is Indo-European. There are loanwords and placenames from Arabic in Spanish as well.

[Cristiano viejo]

Well, there are Christians (both Catholic and Orthodox) in Albania. 20% of the pop. or more. And the Albanian language is Indo-European. There are loanwords and placenames from Arabic in Spanish as well.

1300 and most in desuse (I dont know 99% of them), not 5000 and spoken daily.

[Thracian]

How the fuck do you even find that many Sicilian gedmatch results. American-Sicilians?
It's almost a Herculean task to find a Turkish gedmatch results.

You are right. What about your gedmatch results? Have you ever shared?