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щрбл
10-16-2017, 11:17 PM
Thread dedicated to the best of what communism has to offer in terms of architecture. The greyer, the better, obviously.

https://tripedia.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/7forum-980x735.jpg

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/communist-architecture-zagreb.jpg?x93737

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/communist-monument-varna-bulgaria.jpg?x93737

щрбл
10-16-2017, 11:23 PM
http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-241411-860_poster_16x9-uyft-241411.jpg

щрбл
10-16-2017, 11:23 PM
http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/communist-bulgaria-monument.jpg?x93737

Dick
10-16-2017, 11:45 PM
Lenin Statue - Seattle, Washington

http://photos.wikimapia.org/p/00/01/49/66/15_big.jpg

Meanwhile in Russia...

https://49.media.tumblr.com/e74fe2eb4154d737022385aad9da5056/tumblr_nzo5m9z3uX1u9o3mxo1_500.gif

Magnolia
10-16-2017, 11:59 PM
Hotel Praha (1974 - 2014)
https://1gr.cz/fotky/lidovky/11/071/lnorg/MC3c4a8a_byzHotel_PrahaTTT.jpg
https://im.tiscali.cz/press/2013/12/16/166198-hotel-praha-653x367.jpg
https://media.novinky.cz/005/390058-top_foto1-dqyz6.jpg?1390392001
https://1gr.cz/fotky/idnes/08/093/gal/REZ2612e2_ZG0H8575rez.jpg
http://www.vetrelciavolavky.cz/sites/default/files/imce/lustr_pavel_hlava_1980_crystalex.jpg
http://www.vetrelciavolavky.cz/sites/default/files/imce/hotel_praha_jizni_strana.jpg
https://t1.aimg.sk/magaziny/k2CLvCFDQObyeCSj1TuI5A~Niekdaj-sl-vny-hotel-zb-rali.jpg?t=LzgwMHg0NTAvc21hcnQvZmlsdGVyczp3YXRlcm1 hcmsobWFnYXppbnkvbWFya19jYXNfMi5wbmcsMCwwLDAp&h=hmvyP04DKVqlw4BrYXOsqw&e=2145916800&v=2

щрбл
10-17-2017, 05:57 PM
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/33911608.jpg

Linebacker
10-17-2017, 06:09 PM
https://brato.bg/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Untitled-12.jpg

Rumata
10-17-2017, 06:32 PM
Moscow metro (link) (https://www.google.ru/search?tbm=isch&q=moscow+metro+stations&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj6nK7dpPjWAhVJCpoKHYUzCRAQhyYIJg&biw=1082&bih=692&dpr=1.4)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Metro_MSK_Collage_2016.png/480px-Metro_MSK_Collage_2016.png

щрбл
10-17-2017, 11:09 PM
Beautiful.

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/architecture-of-communists.jpg?x93737

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/super-andrija-foto-zagreb.jpg?x93737

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/modernist-architecture-communist-zagreb.jpg?x93737

Colonel Frank Grimes
10-17-2017, 11:15 PM
I denounce this thread as bourgeoisie.

Lucia
10-17-2017, 11:25 PM
Beautiful.
http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/super-andrija-foto-zagreb.jpg?x93737

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/modernist-architecture-communist-zagreb.jpg?x93737

A.k.a. ''the part of Zagreb we do not show to the tourists'' :D

щрбл
10-18-2017, 09:59 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Belgrade_-_Genex_Tower_west_side%2C_nov_2010.jpg

щрбл
10-18-2017, 10:01 PM
http://www.postwarconcretepostscript.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Zagreb_20140916Rakete0083edit.jpg

щрбл
10-18-2017, 10:05 PM
A.k.a. ''the part of Zagreb we do not show to the tourists'' :D

Sadly so. It could be sold to tourists as an open-air museum of degeneracy. Prague has a corruption tour for example if I recall correctly.

:rolleyes:

Pahli
10-18-2017, 10:19 PM
Looks like they wanted to save money on "unnecessary" colours and painting xD

crazyladybutterfly
10-18-2017, 10:36 PM
Thread dedicated to the best of what communism has to offer in terms of architecture. The greyer, the better, obviously.

https://tripedia.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/7forum-980x735.jpg

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/communist-architecture-zagreb.jpg?x93737

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/communist-monument-varna-bulgaria.jpg?x93737

it s good that eastern europe isnt a sismic zone

crazyladybutterfly
10-18-2017, 10:38 PM
Beautiful.

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/architecture-of-communists.jpg?x93737

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/super-andrija-foto-zagreb.jpg?x93737

http://cdn.yomadic.com/wp-content/uploads/modernist-architecture-communist-zagreb.jpg?x93737

i kinda of like it . it would be a good inspiration for fallout 5 or 6

Oneeye
10-18-2017, 10:42 PM
Colors encourage flamboyancy. No wonder western Europe is consumed by homosexuality.



Now excuse me, these buildings make me want to drink and contemplate about killing a pawnbroker.

Lucia
10-18-2017, 10:45 PM
it s good that eastern europe isnt a sismic zone

Some of us are :(
We have maps with safe places in case of an earthquake all over the city. But I don't think those are the most endangered buildings.

Oneeye
10-18-2017, 10:45 PM
i kinda of like it . it would be a good inspiration for fallout 5 or 6

Call of Duty and James Bond Goldeneye 64 beat yoi to it years ago:

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/callofduty/images/9/9d/Bare_Load_Screen_Bloc_CoD4.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100723075638

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-18-2017, 10:48 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3812/12124139016_eaea36a2a5_b.jpg

Warsaw palace of culture and science.

щрбл
10-18-2017, 10:51 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3812/12124139016_eaea36a2a5_b.jpg

Warsaw palace of culture and science.

In reality, it's much uglier. The darkness and artificial lights hide how dirty that building actually is.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-18-2017, 10:53 PM
In reality, it's much uglier. The darkness and artificial lights hide how dirty that building actually is.

I have been inside it to attend a theater piece. Personally I find it stunning and impressive, the whole square. We don't have buildings of such proportions in Portugal, neither skyscrapers.

ЛыSSый
10-18-2017, 10:57 PM
https://brato.bg/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Untitled-12.jpg

bulgarians has written to me this monument is the best illustration of bulgaria. It looks majestically from far, but inside

http://re-actor.net/uploads/posts/2013-05/1369026527_8.jpg

but how it was in soviet times

http://d.topic.lt/FF/images/26/upload/post/201309/03/1205285/gallery/025.jpg


And command from western masters

http://re-actor.net/uploads/posts/2013-05/1369026577_6.jpg

ЛыSSый
10-18-2017, 11:01 PM
Looks like they wanted to save money on "unnecessary" colours and painting xD

all balkan countries are beggar as fuck under western or gipoturk yoke, but here this question was solved

http://stroitel-kharkov.net/_nw/74/24094158.jpg

Pahli
10-18-2017, 11:03 PM
all balkan countries are beggar as fuck under western or gipoturk yoke, but here this question was solved

http://stroitel-kharkov.net/_nw/74/24094158.jpg

+50 happiness added to local town

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-18-2017, 11:03 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/RigaTVTower.jpg

The Riga Radio and TV Tower in Latvia is the tallest tower in Europe. It looks very impressive as well when you're crossing the bridge in Riga.

щрбл
10-18-2017, 11:05 PM
I have been inside it to attend a theater piece. Personally I find it stunning and impressive, the whole square. We don't have buildings of such proportions in Portugal, neither skyscrapers.

So I have, it's plain fugly as well of the buildings around. The old part of Warsaw is much prettier.


bulgarians has written to me this monument is the best illustration of bulgaria. It looks majestically from far, but inside

You perfectly described what communism is all about. Shiny on the outside, but rotten on the inside.

Insuperable
10-18-2017, 11:08 PM
Strange brutalist monuments

https://www.google.ba/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_hrBA761BA761&biw=1707&bih=844&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=communist+monuments&oq=communist+monuments&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i19k1l2j0i30i19k1j0i5i30i19k1l2.12169.12169 .0.12288.1.1.0.0.0.0.118.118.0j1.1.0....0...1.1.64 .psy-ab..0.1.117....0.6L2LzyTv0Co

ЛыSSый
10-18-2017, 11:08 PM
http://intereskino.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/74375f5872b6d0fbf2047e098e6d37e2.jpg

Lucia
10-18-2017, 11:11 PM
Presidential Villa, one of the rare (relatively) good looking communist buildings in Croatia
https://www.tportal.hr/media/thumbnail/900x540/126080.jpeg?cropId=0

ЛыSSый
10-18-2017, 11:12 PM
http://intereskino.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/b16a290664c6f0e744000ed84663a442.jpg

http://intereskino.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/d425c003b43f443706a7437810e36216.jpg

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-18-2017, 11:14 PM
So I have, it's plain fugly as well of the buildings around. The old part of Warsaw is much prettier.



You perfectly described what communism is all about. Shiny on the outside, but rotten on the inside.

Being Bulgarian you're probably used to such architecture. I am not and it always amazes me. Different tastes, I guess.

ЛыSSый
10-18-2017, 11:14 PM
More symbols in the thread - the only one bright spot in bulgarian reality

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/185abqdrombw7jpg/original.jpg

ЛыSSый
10-18-2017, 11:15 PM
http://images.oobject.com/thumbdir/thumbnails/6/1a/61a96409d8cb3abc8d8fec952c5b8276-orig

щрбл
10-18-2017, 11:20 PM
all balkan countries are beggar as fuck under western or gipoturk yoke, but here this question was solved

http://stroitel-kharkov.net/_nw/74/24094158.jpg

Rainbow gay, it promotes promiscuity and degeneracy.

щрбл
10-18-2017, 11:21 PM
Being Bulgarian you're probably used to such architecture. I am not and it always amazes me. Different tastes, I guess.

I agree about it being impressive, however I wouldn't go further than that. :rolleyes:

Magnolia
10-18-2017, 11:24 PM
I would say this is the nicest "building" built in Czech republic during the communistic era.

https://jested.cz/files/gallery/7/file_554a1e8ebd582.jpg
http://1gr.cz/fotky/idnes/14/073/cl6/JB54c1da_jested_klima.jpg
http://itras.cz/fotogalerie/jested/velke/jested-radime-nemecek-001.jpg
http://www.jestedliberec.cz/galerie/obrazky/image.php?img=451730&x=800&y=367&test=ccc
https://jested.cz/files/photogallery/11/file_558ad5d67a4c4.jpg
https://jested.cz/images/slider/1.jpg
http://www.jizerky.cz/galerie/obrazky/imager.php?img=645359&x=800&y=271&hash=bf093152c64b4998ee7346bd86a6a583&ratio=1

ЛыSSый
10-18-2017, 11:27 PM
Rainbow gay, it promotes promiscuity and degeneracy.

little brown bro, you're westernized too much, for us rainbow is rainbow.

I know you know source slavic language so let you read fragment from book "IPhuck 10"


Фреска, действительно, больше всего напоминала росписи клубов в военных частях, рукописные агитационные плакаты поздней советской поры и прочие подобные арт-объекты. Технику письма при этом нельзя было назвать совсем неумелой. Она тяготела к военному примитивизму, но грубые мазки широкой кисти создавали законченный и сложный образ.
Голый по пояс мускулистый мужчина в маскировочных штанах мчался по горам на яростном белом медведе. Лицо всадника выражало непреклонную решимость. На склонах гор росли огромные цветы размером с деревья, летали пчелы и стрекозы, небо стригли ласточки – природа была изобильна.
Из ущелья, оставшегося у медведя за спиной, выглядывали нездорово бледные, перекошенные злобой и исполненные порока лица. Все доступные мне лекала указывали именно на такие эмоциональные паттерны.
Сперва я не понял, чем они так недовольны – а потом заметил болтающийся на крупе медведя мешок, из которого на волю рвались разноцветные звезды и молнии. Прочерченные от горловины мешка тоненькие стрелочки показывали, что все преувеличенное богатство красок на горных склонах вырвалось именно оттуда.
Над фреской была крупная надпись:
ПОДВИГ № 12
ПУТИН ПОХИЩАЕТ РАДУГУ У ПИДАРАСОВ

Magnolia
10-19-2017, 12:09 AM
And the communist speciality... a historical centre and their buildings...

http://1gr.cz/fotky/idnes/13/091/cl6/MKK4db413_141210_3796221.jpg
http://1gr.cz/fotky/idnes/07/092/gal/VOT1db188_jihlava.jpg
https://d34-a.sdn.szn.cz/d_34/c_A_C/mVjrW8.jpeg?fl=res,400,225,3

http://g.denik.cz/25/54/od-jested_galerie-980.jpg
https://www.kyslinger.info/0/blog/a/tesco.jpg
https://1gr.cz/fotky/idnes/09/043/gal/WEB2a8deb_Kopie_Jested_3_OtaBartovsky.jpg

Kazimiera
10-19-2017, 12:44 AM
http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-pillars.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-spikes.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-dome.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-tree.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-angle.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-opening.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-sharp-angles.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-stone.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-cube.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-circle.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-sunburst.jpg

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/abandoned-soviet-monuments-wings.jpg

Loki
10-19-2017, 01:08 AM
Ryugyong hotel, Pyongyang.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Ryugyong_Hotel_-_August_27%2C_2011_%28Cropped%29.jpg

Rumata
10-19-2017, 05:00 AM
Looks like they wanted to save money on "unnecessary" colours and painting xD

It's true that they didn't colour buildings much but many photos here just are black and white. It's interesting that in Japan they use basically the same dull colours.


Compare with typical capitalist architecture in the spoiler:
https://www.google.ru/maps/search/краснодар+брюсова/@45.0378347,38.9469435,3a,66.8y,268.38h,102.29t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sr6qAVvMSpQQMWbf_ZAt7Xw!2e0
https://www.google.ru/maps/search/краснодар+брюсова/@45.0736182,38.9740683,3a,66.8y,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1syRYXzCCunfHwpxfgF4JfrA!2e0



And notice how this ugly communist apartment house is beautified by nice typical capitalist small shops beside it.

http://www.photo-moskva.ru/Metro_Belorusskaya/Metro_Belorusskaya_16.jpg

http://neldekstop.ru/uploads/images/s/t/a/stalinskie_doma_foto.jpg

http://neldekstop.ru/uploads/images/s/t/a/stalinka_foto_6.jpg

http://www.forum-tvs.ru/uploads/1130775018/gallery_4277_68_1131568058.jpg

http://ussrvopros.ru/images/Soviet_Jizn/Zhizn-po-sovetski/Tipy-kvartir-sovetskogo-perioda.jpg

https://www.adme.ru/zhizn-nostalgiya/fantasticheskie-sooruzheniya-sovetskoj-arhitektury-590005/#image27616165

https://files.adme.ru/files/news/part_59/590005/2251405-salut_1-650-32e9147584-1484576936.jpg

https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9261/14576209.142/0_e283d_7ba45306_orig.jpg

https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9325/14576209.142/0_e2856_50219cd9_orig.jpghttps://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9261/14576209.143/0_e285e_21de457c_orig.jpg

https://files.adme.ru/files/news/part_59/590005/2250955-25phantasticsovietblds001-20-650-32e9147584-1484576936.jpg

https://files.adme.ru/files/news/part_59/590005/2256055-5-650-32e9147584-1484576936.jpg

щрбл
10-19-2017, 09:06 PM
http://adamxphotos.icefusion.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/a2198.jpg

Stears
10-19-2017, 09:13 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Tatabanya.png

щрбл
10-21-2017, 04:17 PM
Revolutionary communist air conditioning system.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e6/51/e4/e651e42f89bbe15bace1571af17f0735--colour-photography-abandoned-places.jpg

щрбл
10-21-2017, 04:18 PM
http://clubz.bg/sites/default/files/userfiles/images/%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8,%20%D0%B6%D0% B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%89%D0%B0.jpg

http://www.manager.bg/sites/default/files/mainimages/1735.jpg

zhaoyun
10-21-2017, 04:22 PM
YUCK. Worst architecture ever.

Kamal900
10-21-2017, 04:24 PM
YUCK. Worst architecture ever.

It was tough times really.

zhaoyun
10-21-2017, 04:27 PM
It was tough times really.

Just a retarded soulless attitude towards aesthetics.

Kamal900
10-21-2017, 04:29 PM
Just a retarded soulless attitude towards aesthetics.

Which amazes me considering that the architecture in today's China and North Korea is nowhere near that ugly as those. In fact, Beijing looks extremely industrialized and fancy city regardless on the fact that China isn't a democratic country. I think it has more to do with the economy than politics really.

Laberia
10-21-2017, 04:38 PM
Ryugyong hotel, Pyongyang.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Ryugyong_Hotel_-_August_27%2C_2011_%28Cropped%29.jpg

This obsession with the rockets, lol.

Oneeye
10-21-2017, 04:42 PM
Just a retarded soulless attitude towards aesthetics.

It makes a good backdrop for using Soviets as villains in old Hollywood films?

Have to admit, they're masculine and kind of intimidating. I don't think any women were consulted while they were being built.

zhaoyun
10-21-2017, 04:43 PM
Which amazes me considering that the architecture in today's China and North Korea is nowhere near that ugly as those. In fact, Beijing looks extremely industrialized and fancy city regardless on the fact that China isn't a democratic country. I think it has more to do with the economy than politics really.

The Communist architecture in China in the 60s and 70s was just as horrible. But most of the architecture in many Chinese cities today is modern and futuristic, it's moved away from the Communist architectural styles.

zhaoyun
10-21-2017, 04:43 PM
It makes a good backdrop for using Soviets as villains in old Hollywood films?

Have to admit, they're masculine and kind of intimidating. I don't think any women were consulted while they were being built.

Yeah, fuck no. LOL

Aodhan
10-21-2017, 04:56 PM
http://theconsummatedabbler.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/20160810_170825-1024x576.jpg

Aodhan
10-21-2017, 04:58 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/1d/47/f6/1d47f6e386062905f8d9162dec0e2507.jpg
Cuba is pretty colorful

Rumata
10-21-2017, 05:04 PM
A capitalist architectural masterpiece (left). Fits the historical center of my city perfectly:

https://3pulse.com/uploads/images/00/01/28/2012/02/19/5d01c1.jpg

A communist time building just across the square:

http://kuban24.tv/res/images/28052016/180131.jpg

In the image posted by Aodhan buildings are pre communist time. While in images posted by Bulgarian member the buildings probably got ruined in post communist time.

Laberia
10-21-2017, 05:12 PM
Since we are talking about wonders, The Pyramid of the Pharaoh:https://i.pinimg.com/736x/08/bb/09/08bb097cce0a5989579ea85bb2895b2d--tirana-albania.jpg
http://www.tirana.al/wp-content/sabai/File/files/l_a6a289e7a1917f805b54d2d9355f4307.jpg
http://cms.newsbomb.al/media/k2/items/cache/730dbccbfe21cb58986deb18845ef6c5_L.jpg

Laberia
10-21-2017, 06:09 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Mali_i_Shpiragut.jpg/640px-Mali_i_Shpiragut.jpg
Slogans on montains: "Enver" (leader of communist Albania, 1944-1985). Shpirag mountain, Berat, South Albania.
Each letter was 100mx60m.
They have change it in Never:
https://i0.wp.com/www.peqini.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/berat-mali-shpiragut-me-parrullen-NEVER.jpg

Laberia
10-21-2017, 06:25 PM
https://www.furnituredekho.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Palace-of-the-Parliament-16.jpg

The Palace of the Parliament (Romanian: Palatul Parlamentului) is the seat of the Parliament of Romania. Located on Dealul Arsenalului in central Bucharest (Sector 5), it is the largest administrative building in the world[1] with a height of 84 metres (276 ft), an area of 365,000 square metres (3,930,000 sq ft) and a volume of 2,550,000 cubic metres (90,000,000 cu ft). In terms of weight, the Palace of the Parliament is the heaviest building in the world, weighing in at around 4,098,500,000 kilograms (9.0356×109 lb).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_the_Parliament)

щрбл
10-29-2017, 05:00 PM
http://ziuadecj.realitatea.net/UserFiles/bloc%20marasti.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Budapest-Kispest_1.JPG/1200px-Budapest-Kispest_1.JPG

http://file.news.joinsland.com/2015/05/11/thumb(550)13378ef29b626.jpg

щрбл
10-29-2017, 05:04 PM
:eyes

http://www.arhinovosti.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/cccp_13.jpg

http://www.arhinovosti.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/cccp_3.jpg

щрбл
10-29-2017, 05:06 PM
Title says it all.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Kazan_Circus_08-2016.jpg/1200px-Kazan_Circus_08-2016.jpg

wvwvw
10-29-2017, 05:10 PM
Rainbow gay, it promotes promiscuity and degeneracy.

It looks like a kindergarden building

щрбл
10-29-2017, 05:25 PM
It looks like a kindergarden building

Probably gray and falling apart now.

Seya
10-29-2017, 05:57 PM
communists built some pretty crazy stuff...a lot of people died building them
Danube–Black Sea Canal
http://tb.bizwiz.ro/Ecluzele-Canalului-Dunare-Marea-Neagra-vor-fi-modernizate-cu-176-4-de-milioane-de-euro/6bff3162c6a28b64d8/588/331/2/70/Ecluzele-Canalului-Dunare-Marea-Neagra-vor-fi-modernizate-cu-176-4-de-milioane-de-euro.jpg
http://observator.ro/cdn/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/canal4.jpg
https://www.crestinortodox.ro/files/image/biserici%20din%20romania%20-%201/dunare%20-%20canal/canalul-dunare-altar-mucenicesc-1.jpg
Vidraru Dam
http://adevarulfinanciar.ro/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/vidraru_adev.jpg
https://www.ghiduri-turistice.info/data_files/mce_images/2016/Septembrie_2016/Barajul_Vidraru/vidraru_1.jpg
http://muscelpedia.ro/assets/_photos/turism/on/vidraru/001_fullsize.jpg
Transfagarasan Highway
http://blog.hotelguru.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/transfagarasan.jpg
http://radioresita.ro/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/transfagarasan.jpg
http://destinatii.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/transfagarasan.jpg
https://scontent.fsbz1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22089478_116272372457621_549175616262890603_n.jpg? oh=b08d7c86e888e24d6ae78d9b21777a08&oe=5AAB39DF
The Iron Gates
http://www.gds.ro/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/baraj-portile-de-fier.jpg
http://www.hotelclipa.ro/timthumb.php?src=avatar/AAA1AAB6AAC5-hotelcplipa.jpg&h=400&w=960&zc=1
The Parliament Building
https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/euobs-media/224c89d6e085c7adb4302f377224d34c.jpg
http://omofon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/casa-poporului-bucuresti.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y07r-3_4wO8/UpKkTLrzJtI/AAAAAAAAGvg/jjabjfuGvl8/s1600/CS8.jpg
https://fotodependent.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/interior-palatul-parlamentului-hdr.jpg
https://adicadar.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/kdr7662.jpg
https://adicadar.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/kdr7616.jpg
http://www.descoperalocuri.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/casa-poporului-candelabru.jpg

KMack
10-29-2017, 06:00 PM
Brutalism

Rumata
10-29-2017, 06:12 PM
Sayano–Shushenskaya Dam

http://www.aukcion.zapoved.net/media/com_mtree/images/listings/m/12510.jpg

щрбл
10-29-2017, 08:03 PM
https://www.demilked.com/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/postcards-from-pripyat-chernobyl-drone-footage-danny-cooke-fb.jpg

MellowD
10-29-2017, 09:57 PM
http://blog.hotelguru.ro/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Casa-Scanteii-Bucuresti.jpg

щрбл
11-05-2017, 05:09 PM
https://birdinflight.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/brut_20.jpg

https://birdinflight.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/brutalism_01.jpg

https://birdinflight.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Ukravtodor.jpg

Ilma
11-05-2017, 05:22 PM
I'm sorry to enter the thread to say that but... Communist architecture is the worst of all that happened the last centuries ever :(

Even here when we notice an ugly building we call it "communist-like building style" (often they are those who have been built in hurry post-WWII after the bombing destructions)...

I find the style interesting in art-design though.

The Estonian band Metsatöll made an awesome video clip using communist cartoons from what I heard, from the animation Suur Tőll (Tallinfilm 1980, based on an Estonian heroic folk tale).

The song is about the bravery of Estonian people who fought against the Russians and took back their independance. I love that song and band a lot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--i3pwGGabE

щрбл
11-05-2017, 05:33 PM
I'm sorry to enter the thread to say that but... Communist architecture is the worst of all that happened the last centuries ever :(

Even here when we notice an ugly building we call it "communist-like building style" (often they are those who have been built in hurry post-WWII after the bombing destructions)...

I find the style interesting in art-design though.

The Estonian band Metsatöll made an awesome video clip using communist cartoons from what I heard, from the animation Suur Tőll (Tallinfilm 1980, based on an Estonian heroic folk tale).

The song is about the bravery of Estonian people who fought against the Russians and took back their independance. I love that song and band a lot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--i3pwGGabE

Reinforced concrete is a french invention. Rashkies are copycats.

Ilma
11-05-2017, 05:35 PM
To contribute a bit about communist architecture though...

The Buzludzha's monument in Bulgaria, or the House-Monument of the Bulgarian Communist Party, abandonned completely. looks like a UFO flying saucer lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzludzha

https://generationvoyage.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/monument-buzludzha-bulgarie-1.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/F_d5q2O_gg4/maxresdefault.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AkQ6ixrDdyw/Upprh8HJC4I/AAAAAAACqoc/VAlxR2N_SkE/s1600/Buzludzha_Abandoned_Communist_HQ_Bulgaria-0222.jpg

http://www.safaripoet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/P_20151006_132747.jpg

crazyladybutterfly
11-05-2017, 05:54 PM
bulgarians has written to me this monument is the best illustration of bulgaria. It looks majestically from far, but inside

http://re-actor.net/uploads/posts/2013-05/1369026527_8.jpg

but how it was in soviet times

http://d.topic.lt/FF/images/26/upload/post/201309/03/1205285/gallery/025.jpg


And command from western masters

http://re-actor.net/uploads/posts/2013-05/1369026577_6.jpg

i thought it was cernobyl wtf lol

Rumata
11-05-2017, 05:57 PM
To contribute a bit about communist architecture though...

The Buzludzha's monument in Bulgaria, or the House-Monument of the Bulgarian Communist Party, abandonned completely. looks like a UFO flying saucer lol.
It's been posted in this thread already.


The song is about the bravery of Estonian people who fought against the Russians and took back their independance. I love that song and band a lot.
Was the Estonian exit from USSR really that violent or this band writes lyrics in science fiction genre?

щрбл
11-05-2017, 05:58 PM
i thought it was cernobyl wtf lol

Well, you were partially right, it is just another poophole.

KrashNick
11-05-2017, 06:03 PM
http://aa.com.tr/uploads/Contents/2015/05/15/thumbs_b_c_ee535072648e74b78f25ba0c7735a825.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/68253383.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/22504551.jpg

щрбл
11-05-2017, 06:08 PM
http://aa.com.tr/uploads/Contents/2015/05/15/thumbs_b_c_ee535072648e74b78f25ba0c7735a825.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/68253383.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/22504551.jpg

Looks like genital herpes.

crazyladybutterfly
11-05-2017, 06:13 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02553/china_2553345b.jpg

crazyladybutterfly
11-05-2017, 06:15 PM
http://www.arterritory.com/images/news/nw732l.jpg

https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/brutalism.jpeg

https://m.smedata.sk/api-media/media/image/spectator/2/24/2467332/2467332_1200x.jpeg?rev=2

http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-241411-860_poster_16x9-uyft-241411.jpg

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4e2ed69b69bedd5f15000003/photos-the-stark-communist-architecture-of-eastern-europe.jpg

https://images.adsttc.com/media/images/5767/9b2b/e58e/ce63/6800/00c9/large_jpg/PiotrBednarski_23.jpg?1466407708

crazyladybutterfly
11-05-2017, 06:16 PM
http://www.arterritory.com/images/news/nw732l.jpg

https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/brutalism.jpeg

https://m.smedata.sk/api-media/media/image/spectator/2/24/2467332/2467332_1200x.jpeg?rev=2

http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-241411-860_poster_16x9-uyft-241411.jpg

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4e2ed69b69bedd5f15000003/photos-the-stark-communist-architecture-of-eastern-europe.jpg

https://images.adsttc.com/media/images/5767/9b2b/e58e/ce63/6800/00c9/large_jpg/PiotrBednarski_23.jpg?1466407708

Dandelion
11-05-2017, 06:26 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02553/china_2553345b.jpg

Very Freudian in the land of the small penis.

ЛыSSый
11-05-2017, 07:08 PM
Very Freudian in the land of the small penis.

The building is chinece one, so probably you've guessed.

Dandelion
11-05-2017, 07:12 PM
The building is chinece one, so probably you've guessed.

The title of the image tbh. ;)

crazyladybutterfly
11-05-2017, 07:16 PM
http://www.arterritory.com/images/news/nw732l.jpg

https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/brutalism.jpeg

https://m.smedata.sk/api-media/media/image/spectator/2/24/2467332/2467332_1200x.jpeg?rev=2

http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-241411-860_poster_16x9-uyft-241411.jpg

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4e2ed69b69bedd5f15000003/photos-the-stark-communist-architecture-of-eastern-europe.jpg

https://images.adsttc.com/media/images/5767/9b2b/e58e/ce63/6800/00c9/large_jpg/PiotrBednarski_23.jpg?1466407708

greasycaveman
11-05-2017, 07:19 PM
Sad.... that russians are tearing down lenin... :(

glass
11-05-2017, 07:20 PM
Meanwhile in Russia...

https://49.media.tumblr.com/e74fe2eb4154d737022385aad9da5056/tumblr_nzo5m9z3uX1u9o3mxo1_500.gif
Can't be. We are not thirld world apes that fight monuments.

ЛыSSый
11-05-2017, 07:44 PM
Sad.... that russians are tearing down lenin... :(

nonono, this is our distraction.

Mikula
11-05-2017, 07:57 PM
https://m.smedata.sk/api-media/media/image/spectator/2/24/2467332/2467332_1200x.jpeg





IMHO the Slovak Radio Building at Bratislava (upside-down-pyramide) is not a bad idea, at all

Laberia
11-05-2017, 08:10 PM
Fierza Hydroelectric Power Station
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yJrxbZDK1KI/maxresdefault.jpg

The Fierza Hydroelectric Power Station (Albanian: Hidrocentrali i Fierzës) is a large hydroelectric power station on the Drin River, in Albania.
Fierza is the upper HPP (Hydro Power Plant) of the Drin River cascade. Based on the installed power capacity, position and the volume of the reservoir, Fierza plays a key role for the exploitation, regulation and safe operation of Drin cascade.
Fierza is a HPP with a Rock-fill dam with a clay core and reservoir. When it was built, Fierza was the second in Europe for the height of its type. The dam has a total volume of 8 million m3.
This rock-fill dam measures 167 m (548 ft)[2] in height, and 380 m (1,250 ft) in length along the crest. Construction began in 1971 and was completed seven years later in 1978. The dam is one of the three hydroelectric dams on the Drin River. The reservoir was filled with water between 1978 and 1981.[2]
The four units installed in the plant have "Francis" vertical turbines with 125 MW power each; 3-Phase synchronous generators of 13.8kV voltage; and lifting transformers 13.8kV/242 kV for the connection with the transmission substation.
The annual output of Fierza HPP averages in 1,330 GWh, that represent approximately 33% of Drin cascade production.
The importance of Fierza, beside energy production, relates on the capacity of its lake which regulates the annual inflows and increase the efficient use of the Drin cascade.
https://media.glassdoor.com/l/2f/12/9e/7d/h-c-fierze-albania.jpg

Vožd
11-05-2017, 08:15 PM
Its actually brutalism. West Europe have also examples. London:

https://20bedfordway.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Robin-Hood-Gardens.jpg

https://www.atlasandboots.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/ugly-buildings7.jpg

glass
11-05-2017, 08:26 PM
Unability of gypsies and gypsy like people to maintain buildings properly contribute to 'ugliness' much more than actual design of them.

magyar_lány
11-05-2017, 08:34 PM
Southern Railway Station, Budapest

http://www.atv.hu/thumbnail/772x514/8/86/b2000.jpg

щрбл
11-05-2017, 09:25 PM
http://hybridtechcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/1381122185_05-620x41314.jpg

http://hybridtechcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/1381122185_05-620x41313.jpg

Mikula
11-05-2017, 09:26 PM
Btw,, communist architecture in our country did not start as the concrete monolitic grey buildings, firstly.
One started, in early 1950s, with so called "Socialist Realism" nicknamed SORELA.
In this style were build a new town Havířov, and new part of Ostrava city (Ostrava-Poruba)
http://www.address.cz/data/www.sanquis.cz/articles/files/1098.jpg
https://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/98613725.jpg
http://www.msstavby.cz/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10696398_1560391200849430_2495175384755175356_n.jp g
http://www.turisimo.cz/assets/country/cesko/upload/photo/large_800px-Havirov01_KDRadost.JPG
http://pres.upmedia.cz/media/k2/items/cache/a52e3ba5cfb0a714deff40836e2eda7e_XL.jpg

Next years and decades brought much worse architecture than SORELA was.

щрбл
11-08-2017, 11:50 AM
http://www.asergeev.com/p/xl-2013-1154-11/saint_petersburg_vyborg-abandoned_half_house_petrogradskaya_storona.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/TMzWCOgdLsI/AAAAAAABYCE/lNDWzQ15_LA/s720/ert54retrgrgrgr.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Q-PuSGjFHvY/SPwMmSODiQI/AAAAAAAACcI/tdjSS85mpAc/s640/1877370.jpg

Rumata
12-03-2017, 12:38 AM
A modern (not old or decrepit) living area according to capitalists:

https://varlamov.me/2017/yusi_gang/00s.jpg

Rumata
12-03-2017, 12:52 AM
Its actually brutalism. West Europe have also examples. London:]

America is full of big ugly building too:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/MetLife_from_Empire_State_Building.jpg/800px-MetLife_from_Empire_State_Building.jpg

https://www.emporis.com/images/show/902713-Large-metlife-building.jpg

Rumata
12-03-2017, 05:20 AM
A former ugly communist People's Hall (Дом культуры) rebranded in a fresh capitalist fashion:

https://pp.userapi.com/c841132/v841132024/3be12/5s2B4wOQ1bs.jpg

MellowD
12-04-2017, 01:37 AM
http://allinpokerclub.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/full-palatul-administrativ-satu-mare-toata-cladirea.jpg

http://www.upb.ro/i/content/diverse/195_ani/FOTO_RECTORAT.jpg

http://bucuresti.tourneo.ro/wp-content/gallery/sala-palatului-bucuresti/sala-palatului-2.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Palatul_Administrativ_Vaslui.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Palatul_administrativ_Ploiesti.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/T%C3%A2rgu_Jiu_station.jpg

Profileid
12-04-2017, 02:03 AM
Happy to contribute
https://i.imgur.com/xHRraBV.jpg

zhaoyun
12-04-2017, 02:13 AM
Damn, this thread is soul crushing. Honestly the worst architecture in history.

Rumata
12-04-2017, 02:25 AM
More capitalist masterpieces to compare:

UK:

http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Selfridges-department-store.png

New Zealand:

http://cdn3.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/rock.png

USA:

http://cdn4.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Boston_City_Hall.png

USA:

https://www.ucityguides.com/images/top10/houston.jpg

USA:

https://www.ucityguides.com/images/top10/detroit.jpg

USA:

https://www.ucityguides.com/images/top10/los-angeles.jpg

USA:

http://cdn2.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/portland-bldg.png

Mexico:

https://www.ucityguides.com/images/top10/mexico-city.jpg


Brazil:

https://www.ucityguides.com/images/top10/sao-paulo.jpg

Brazil:

https://cdn1.pri.org/sites/default/files/brazil-slums-favelas-real-estate-2011-04-07.jpg

Venezuela:

https://www.ucityguides.com/images/top10/caracas.jpg

China (may be considered capitalist now):

http://cdn4.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/5CCTV-Tower800.png

MellowD
12-04-2017, 03:37 AM
Vancouver is ugly as fuck...

http://www.getsready.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Vancouver-city.jpg

Sarmatian
12-04-2017, 04:37 AM
Damn, this thread is soul crushing. Honestly the worst architecture in history.

That's hardly an architecture and have little to do with communists. Just mix of steel, concrete and sometimes bricks. Absolutely same around the globe. Only when carrying capacity was moved from walls on internal beams and concrete walls were replaced with glass the exterior of buildings was changed to more pleasant one. Remember which city was called concrete jungle?

http://hires.patternpictures.com/PP37060906-NY-Concrete-Jungle.jpg

zhaoyun
12-04-2017, 05:08 AM
That's hardly an architecture and have little to do with communists. Just mix of steel, concrete and sometimes bricks. Absolutely same around the globe. Only when carrying capacity was moved from walls on internal beams and concrete walls were replaced with glass the exterior of buildings was changed to more pleasant one. Remember which city was called concrete jungle?

http://hires.patternpictures.com/PP37060906-NY-Concrete-Jungle.jpg

yeah but you see a lot more of these types of utilitarian architectural styles in Communist countries because it goes along with the ideology.

Sarmatian
12-04-2017, 06:19 AM
yeah but you see a lot more of these types of utilitarian architectural styles in Communist countries because it goes along with the ideology.

Nothing to do with ideology. Russia had housing shortages in urban areas even before revolution. Soviet government tried to build enough rapidly during industrialization. But during WWII it all was left in ruins with entire cities leveled to the ground. China had massive housing shortages at the beginning of its industrialization too. These ugly blocks were the quickest solution to accommodate large numbers of people. It was unavoidable necessity wrapped in ideological package.

Rumata
12-04-2017, 08:09 AM
yeah but you see a lot more of these types of utilitarian architectural styles in Communist countries because it goes along with the ideology.

Apartment houses built in the time of Stalin (stalinka, сталинка) generally don't look bad. I wonder if it makes Stalin less communist than Khrushchev or something? Joke ;)

https://www.google.ru/search?tbm=isch&sa=1&q=stalinka&=&=&oq=&gs_l=

PAGANE
01-16-2020, 03:27 PM
Georgi Dimitrov's mausoleum in Sofia
https://lupa.bg/f/news/b/19/992173cb4e9af94d2f6ae2e1cb5d3db5.jpeg

PAGANE
01-16-2020, 03:31 PM
Albena Resort, Bulgaria in the Age of Socialism
https://r-cf.bstatic.com/images/hotel/max1024x768/513/51333834.jpghttps://q-cf.bstatic.com/images/hotel/max1024x768/513/51381208.jpg

vbnetkhio
01-16-2020, 04:00 PM
Damn, this thread is soul crushing. Honestly the worst architecture in history.

why are Americans so hostile whenever commieblocks are posted anywhere on the internet

The Lawspeaker
01-16-2020, 04:12 PM
How about Erich's Lampenladen ? ("Erich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Honecker)'s Lamp Store") Err the Ballast der Republik ... err the Palast der Republik:

https://www.reizen-en-reistips.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/verdwenen-hotspot-palast-der-republik-in-berlijn.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Palast_der_Republik_Berlin_DDR.jpg

https://heiup.uni-heidelberg.de/reader/index/422/422-75-82972-1-2-20181122.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ab/12/a0/ab12a08871ff33f5c33ff2cc7eeca194.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-1986-0417-414%2C_Berlin%2C_XI._SED-Parteitag%2C_Er%C3%B6ffnung.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/bb/a9/37/bba937d0ca161761e37ee1e1daeeab61--berlin-hauptstadt-berlin-heute.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/dc/a6/9edca64c701d2b0b80d9bf203588664a.jpg

https://storage.googleapis.com/hippostcard/p/1dc86d4eb43f175d9112176f13393bd4-800.jpg

Teutone
01-16-2020, 04:16 PM
Brutalism should be banned by law.
https://twitter.com/Arch_Revival_?s=09

Aspirin
01-16-2020, 04:26 PM
Entire Moldova is a big communist architectural wonder.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48815288566_7a1795fe38_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48815257176_804a538ec6_3k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48815406502_f597afa0f0_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48815288276_c2cbaed4ca_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48815286041_9bd76663ec_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48814930308_e6945334b7_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48814930048_04465a3820_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48814929308_2c965cf5a3_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48815283646_d81eb43290_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48814928503_d7776be4d1_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48815431302_6c951c7d92_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48815279176_b15687c4c2_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48815427952_68558132e2_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48814923523_f2b3b18fb1_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48814922893_ba29896387_4k.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48814931298_d906a85084_4k.jpg

cyrus
01-16-2020, 04:50 PM
The communist "brutalist" architecture is at core Bahaus architecture from mid-1920 with some ethnic or local elements added. All brutalist architecture having the same "functionality" and "mass-produced materials & serving the purpose" kind of concept. Nothing more, nothing less.
The weird part from a western perspective is the memorial monuments and mausoleums build like the Pyramids of Egypt, to last "forever", challenge the time itself...:)

1GiantLeapForMankind
01-16-2020, 05:54 PM
In Communist Satnav the building finds you
https://i.ibb.co/CsVPhHJ/f57i4lkqupk21.jpg (https://ibb.co/mFhN6cv)

Celine
01-16-2020, 05:56 PM
Communist architectural horrors.

The Lawspeaker
01-16-2020, 11:49 PM
Brutalism should be banned by law.
https://twitter.com/Arch_Revival_?s=09

It should be punishable by death !

1GiantLeapForMankind
01-17-2020, 03:50 AM
Im begining to think the moon is concrete.

Sarmatian
01-17-2020, 05:02 AM
The communist "brutalist" architecture is at core Bahaus architecture from mid-1920 with some ethnic or local elements added. All brutalist architecture having the same "functionality" and "mass-produced materials & serving the purpose" kind of concept. Nothing more, nothing less.
The weird part from a western perspective is the memorial monuments and mausoleums build like the Pyramids of Egypt, to last "forever", challenge the time itself...:)

You'll be surprised but that "communist" architectural style is as Western as it gets. It was developed by French architect Le Corbusier. In his approach to living and working spaces he literally considered humans as cattle to be locked in cubicles. All psychological and mental effects of this style were intentional from very beginning of it.

cyrus
01-17-2020, 08:03 AM
You'll be surprised but that "communist" architectural style is as Western as it gets. It was developed by French architect Le Corbusier. In his approach to living and working spaces he literally considered humans as cattle to be locked in cubicles. All psychological and mental effects of this style were intentional from very beginning of it.

I'm not surprised at all, I agree 100%. The urban idea of stacking homes one on top of one another is very old: The Romans thought of it; so did the Egyptians, however, the Scandinavians did it first at large scale looking for cost-efficient heating system, instead of burning more wood and coal, eventually gas at individual homes level. Ceausescu - born a poor peasant from an obscure village in southern Romania, thought that 8, 9 or10 floors concrete apartment buildings are the "paramount of urbanization" and the "peak of lifestyle"...:) I saw them in Prague, Bratislava, Budapest, Warshaw, Dresden, Vilnius, Varna, etc but between them, they let relatively large spaces, shopping centers, schools, kindergartens, parks, you name it, in Bucharest (2.5-3 million people) Ceausescu jammed 8 floors apartment buildings on two-thirds of Bucharest...:( There is a long debate if he did it right or wrong considering cold war times with the thermonuclear bomb fear in mind, all the communist leaders saw the outcome at Hiroshima or Nagasaki, (Enver Hoxha filled Albania with concrete spheres :) as "defense" line against the potential western aggressors), besides the devastating earthquakes from the '40s and '70s, etc. I kinda tend to give Ceausescu the benefit of the doubt. Ironically, after the fall of Ceausescu and communism, from the late '90s until today the wannabe "real estate moguls" aka "cardboard capitalists" start building (please don't laugh) jam-packed 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or 8 floors concrete buildings (some penthouses too) because is profitable...:)

The Lawspeaker
01-17-2020, 10:23 AM
How about this Western example ? De Bijlmermeer in Amsterdam. Originally planned as a new area for the middle class, it failed hard when that same middle class could find better and cheaper homes in Purmerend or Almere - leaving Amsterdam altogether. The municipality that filled it up with new arrivals from Suriname and later Africa. I think we all know what became of it:

https://nos.nl/data/image/2017/11/25/433659/xxl.jpg

https://images3.persgroep.net/rcs/H8z6zuIy3uHamJP9hCourhLJbIo/diocontent/131261852/_crop/8/0/1841/1043/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8

https://harveyotten.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/kleiburg.jpg

https://historiek.net/wp-content/uploads-phistor1/2017/06/1024px-Gooiord_Bijlmer-e1497357461924.jpg

https://www.avrotros.nl/fileadmin/user_upload/Programma_s/Close_Up/Kleiburg-5.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tc-9NNw8vBQ/WttHkn-lNnI/AAAAAAAAANw/iRkuT7HzyBkue3wRQvDXqHHlJKpzZlv3ACEwYBhgL/s1600/winkelcentrum_ganzenhoef_3.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/070802Kraaiennest1.jpg

https://www.bijlmer.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/amsterdamsepoort-678x381.jpg

https://images1.persgroep.net/rcs/zlVHAwaM7gGFVrJkNG-sj9BT9qw/diocontent/131254230/_crop/0/161/1580/893/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8

https://images.nrc.nl/39-eW1lgK6J4BI9jszfJdxMJqZs=/1280x/filters:no_upscale()/s3/static.nrc.nl/bvhw/files/2016/12/data7630599.jpg

Large parts of it have since been demolished.

щрбл
01-18-2020, 08:41 PM
Georgi Dimitrov's mausoleum in Sofia
https://lupa.bg/f/news/b/19/992173cb4e9af94d2f6ae2e1cb5d3db5.jpeg

https://nstatic.nova.bg/public/pics/anysize/1566391979.jpg

щрбл
01-18-2020, 08:44 PM
Brutalism should be banned by law.
https://twitter.com/Arch_Revival_?s=09

Do you think that Frankfurt should be nuked and its inhabitants exterminated until the last one?

щрбл
01-18-2020, 09:03 PM
https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Tetris_43b2ee_1204422.jpg

Salty Ears
02-07-2020, 06:42 AM
Huge part of my childhood was spent here: Center for young people's creativity built in 1986 is a good example of soviet modernist architecture


http://zvzda.ru/uploads/70ea34fac3ff00f7acf55f4f99cf5b92.jpeg



https://regions.kidsreview.ru/sites/default/files/styles/oww/public/01/25/2012_-_1702/dvorec_detskogo_tvorchestva.jpeg

https://img.localway.ru/fullsize/569346.jpg

http://zvzda.ru/uploads/392992d3757e3580fc74a7730a57da35.jpeg

http://zvzda.ru/uploads/c879fcc5b2bfa2e186669b7661cd40f7.jpeg

http://zvzda.ru/uploads/9b5028e5024c2c5091ffbf77aaa6929d.jpeg

http://zvzda.ru/uploads/d555462e2c603f0c3722a58a5f4a56ee.jpeg

http://zvzda.ru/uploads/5d4af80df22c8183a1e9647d13c60620.jpeg

http://zvzda.ru/uploads/e0070e9f1f4bd953b8c83d4e5f89d954.jpeg

http://zvzda.ru/uploads/8fd2486b2c12f80a7ef54e9361ebd49f.jpeg

http://zvzda.ru/uploads/e6df19baef75811808b7b799c8025bdf.jpeg

http://zvzda.ru/uploads/46eb68bae8fd3ec06d7c3d8ffa685252.jpeg

http://zvzda.ru/uploads/5510f088b1a8673a1c7ef85ab7484877.jpeg

The Lawspeaker
02-07-2020, 11:31 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Hoyerswerda_Kuelz_Str.jpg/1200px-Hoyerswerda_Kuelz_Str.jpg

https://www.bpb.de/cache/images/5/233565-3x2-original.jpg?8D222

And GDR interiors:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/DDR-Museum_Berlin_Wohnzimmer_01.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/4d/8c/d44d8c24b4b5f26abb0ac0b8bc30d6b9.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/16/7c/e7167cb9f284d491237861d15e925465.jpg

https://r-cf.bstatic.com/images/hotel/max1024x768/179/179029010.jpg

https://wattedoeninberlijn.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DDR_Museum_nieuwe_gedeelte-13.jpg

cyrus
02-07-2020, 11:45 AM
I might be wrong, but the former Soviet Union was known for large boulevards and generous living spaces (sorry, I'm obsessed with tiny and claustrophobic dwellings), implying the supremacy, power, and superiority of communist society. I'm not aware of "failed architecture experiments" in Russia.

The Lawspeaker
02-07-2020, 12:12 PM
The Karl-Marx-Allee in Berlin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8bjBG12U-k

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/03/f6/9203f6a4ac7a74aef09d35a775f110ce.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D7B0AN/buildings-on-the-street-karl-marx-allee-are-pictured-on-24-april-2013-D7B0AN.jpg

https://ddrinberlin.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/bundesarchiv_bild_183-24589-0009_berlin_karl-marx-allee_strausberger_platz.jpg

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/1a/f7/05/karl-marx-book-store.jpg

https://berlin-audiovisuell.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/karl-marx-allee-6.jpg

https://www.turus.net/fotostrecke/image.raw?view=image&type=img&id=7647

https://www.centralberlin.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/PR_0106.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0a/61/12/0a6112d703dcf95aaf89e9cff8871465.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/2009-07-26-berlin-by-RalfR-69.jpg/1200px-2009-07-26-berlin-by-RalfR-69.jpg

KirillMazur
02-08-2020, 12:19 AM
Kaliningrad, House of Soviets (unfinished).
https://i.postimg.cc/T3bbVDm9/0-19cd61-b703bf0a-XL.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Residential building in Moscow.
https://i.postimg.cc/kgN4MFKk/0-19cd63-37d32e10-XL.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
There, in the capital, an interesting RIA Novosti building lurked. In Soviet times, it was an Olympic press center.
https://i.postimg.cc/ryttX4ZL/0-19cd65-d8323856-XL.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Also in the capital there is a wonderful "house-ship" and it is also a "recumbent skyscraper."
https://i.postimg.cc/NfMSjgTY/0-19cd66-26e5e0e6-XL.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Here is the building of the oncological center of RAMS.
https://i.postimg.cc/rF3ny5MC/0-19cd67-c62f6998-XL.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Well, one of the most famous unfinished buildings of the capital is the Khovrinsky hospital.
https://i.postimg.cc/cLfmsjD0/0-19cd68-9ff192c8-XL.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Now we are moving from Moscow to St. Petersburg. Hotel building "Rus".
https://i.postimg.cc/KzjBgs5K/0-19cd69-11deaf3-XL.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
And this is the archive of the Navy.
https://i.postimg.cc/zGNdR8HV/0-19cd6a-d53e5d13-XL.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
This is a garage cooperative "Vasileostrovets". Yes, garages can look quite interesting.
https://i.postimg.cc/g0JHvJzk/0-19cd6b-4a2c5405-XL.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

cyrus
02-08-2020, 03:56 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/zGNdR8HV/0-19cd6a-d53e5d13-XL.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


A 20 floor "USB Stick" or "External HD" ...:)

Salty Ears
02-08-2020, 06:10 AM
"Tsentralnaya (Central)" Hotel in the city of Perm built in 1933. Example of early soviet constructivism.

http://safe-rgs.ru/uploads/posts/2018-10/1539710864_dscn2682.jpg

https://gorod342.ru/images/photos/medium/dae179e58ec554f0511ffc3ccbb6c99f.jpg

During WW2 in evacuation there lived such persons like Russian Soviet composer Sergei Prokofiev. Soviet Armenian composer Aram Khachaturyan wrote there his most recognized work - music for ballet Gayane.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUQHGpxrz-8

Now Indian and Bangladeshi students live there. I have nothing against their behavior on the street, but i am afraid to imagine what is inside the building now

Ps/ sorry, i forgot that it is topic about "wonders" and it is just rather average building

ixulescu
03-06-2020, 12:57 PM
I might be wrong, but the former Soviet Union was known for large boulevards and generous living spaces (sorry, I'm obsessed with tiny and claustrophobic dwellings), implying the supremacy, power, and superiority of communist society. I'm not aware of "failed architecture experiments" in Russia.

You are wrong. Soviet Union is only known for Khrushchyovkas aka commieblocks, that have destroyed the face of all Eastern European towns. It will take a century to remove the shit communists did to our towns. Fuck them all.

Jana
03-06-2020, 01:17 PM
My city is full of such beauties, but I won't contribute with pics. If you have seen photos of communist buildings once, you have seen them all.

KirillMazur
03-06-2020, 01:45 PM
You are wrong. Soviet Union is only known for Khrushchyovkas aka commieblocks, that have destroyed the face of all Eastern European towns. It will take a century to remove the shit communists did to our towns. Fuck them all.
Said by resident of a country where one of the components of the "American dream" is a plywood house for the price of a Boeing in a lifetime mortgage.

ixulescu
03-06-2020, 02:45 PM
Said by resident of a country where one of the components of the "American dream" is a plywood house for the price of a Boeing in a lifetime mortgage.

I would love Romania to adopt the house construction techniques from the US. Romania has no issues with high winds but earthquakes, and these lightweight houses can deal with them far better.

These houses are cheap to build and comfortable, and can be as aesthetically pleasing as the architects make them to be (unlike commieblocks which are uniformly horrible). They can be expensive to buy because when you buy a house you also pay for the neighborhood. A good neighborhood (safe, with good schools etc) can easily double the price of a house in the US.

Rumata
03-06-2020, 02:53 PM
Soviet Union is only known for Khrushchyovkas aka commieblocks...

Your knowledge about Soviet architecture is very limited and you shouldn't talk for everyone.

Another big part of Soviet built houses are stalinkas (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0):

https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-pdb/251121/adca0115-2c8a-4584-b28e-9f972eb22820/s1200

https://www.google.ru/maps/@45.0583531,38.983613,3a,75y,42.17h,93.7t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szQ4zC2UY8dllNk4HdksbBQ!2e0!6s% 2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DzQ4zC2UY8dllN k4HdksbBQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_ sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26y aw%3D46.35747%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312 !8i6656

Then there were late panel buldings. They are ugly too.

Bosniensis
03-06-2020, 02:55 PM
Thread name should have been: Soulless Communist Architectural Abominations.

ixulescu
03-06-2020, 02:59 PM
Your knowledge about Soviet architecture is very limited and you shouldn't talk for everyone.

A big part of Soviet built houses are

I have an excellent knowledge of Soviet architecture.

Yes Stalin built in every large city a pedestrian street (arbat) with decent quality apartments for the apparatchiks (the commie 1%ers). The rest of the population was stuffed in miserably looking, poorly built and heated, commieblocks. Like I said, the trash the communists built will take forever to clean up.

Ülev
03-06-2020, 03:06 PM
^^ "Ze R" discovers things already discovered?

Dream Island glass covered shops for example (with entertainment part tho)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316300-Dream-Island-the-largest-indoor-amusement-park-in-the-world

meanwhile in Romania:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasajul_Macca-Vilacrosse
https://youtu.be/-tH7vAyuok0

Rumata
03-06-2020, 07:04 PM
I have an excellent knowledge of Soviet architecture.

Yes Stalin built in every large city a pedestrian street (arbat) with decent quality apartments for the apparatchiks (the commie 1%ers). The rest of the population was stuffed in miserably looking, poorly built and heated, commieblocks. Like I said, the trash the communists built will take forever to clean up.

Your knoledge is mishmash of some kind. And basically every sentence of this message is not true.

1. Far from every large city had a pedestrian street. Mine never had one.
2. Quality appartments weren't limited to a certain street or even area.
3. Not only apparatchiks could get decent housing. For example, I know for certain that a house like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0206067,39.0070386,3a,75y,26.6h,99.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7BesJmO592PzaZI_Pkp1sA!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656) was populated by workers of the nearby light industry factory. A decent brick building with high ceilings.
4. Stalinkas were not barally decent quality, but good quality appartments. Thick brick walls, high ceilings, good room planning, wooden parquet etc. I doubd an average Romanian housing of the time were somewhere near that.
5. Central heating was a common thing.

Also, first you said "Soviet Union is only known for Khrushchyovkas", and now you know about stalinkas too.

ixulescu
03-06-2020, 08:34 PM
Your knoledge is mishmash of some kind. And basically every sentence of this message is not true.

Alright, let's see.



1. Far from every large city had a pedestrian street. Mine never had one.
Krasnodar was not a large city during Stalin's time. It's barely one now.



2. Quality appartments weren't limited to a certain street or even area.
Of course they were limited because they were so few in the first place. I know you think Soviet Union was the paradise on earth, but in reality it was a shit show.



3. Not only apparatchiks could get decent housing. For example, I know for certain that a was populated by workers of the nearby light industry factory. A decent brick building with high ceilings.
Sure, they were given to working class families when the buildings became decrepit. Only those restored in central places are still sought after.



5. Central heating was a common thing.
Yes they had central heating, but it rarely worked in nominal parameters, if at all.



Also, first you said "Soviet Union is only known for Khrushchyovkas", and now you know about stalinkas too.
Everyone in the West knows about commieblocks, but nobody knows about Stalinkas. And why should they since they are not representative for Soviet housing.



4. Stalinkas were not barally decent quality, but good quality appartments. Thick brick walls, high ceilings, good room planning, wooden parquet etc. I doubd an average Romanian housing of the time were somewhere near that.
Sure, they were decent, but only a few were built. The massive move of the villagers into the city started in the late 50s, right after Stalin's era.
Comparing stalinkas with their correspondent in Romania is hilarious. Romania had true luxury modernist and art deco apartments buildings made for real capitalists :lol:

There were many boulevards with such buildings in Bucharest as seen here at 9:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F3BFYNRRMY

Btw, only pussies who lost the argument downvote, please refrain in the future.

KirillMazur
03-07-2020, 12:10 PM
I have an excellent knowledge of Soviet architecture.

Yes Stalin built in every large city a pedestrian street (arbat) with decent quality apartments for the apparatchiks (the commie 1%ers). The rest of the population was stuffed in miserably looking, poorly built and heated, commieblocks. Like I said, the trash the communists built will take forever to clean up.
1) Who helped rebuild Bucharest (and other cities) after its bombardment by the anti-Hitler coalition?
Do you think it is possible to build up half of Europe with luxurious palaces in the post-war conditions so that each worker receives a separate housing?
2) Why normal housing is built only in the countries of the "golden billion" (not for everyone), but in the capitalist India, the Congo, and even in Rio de Janeiro they build huts made of shit and sticks?
3) The attitude to the communist legacy in Europe is quite different - in East Berlin, the “Khrushchevkas” were reconstructed and they are considered as normal housing, but as for what the Romanians did in the Ferentari district in Bucharest, I'll better stay silent.

Ülev
03-07-2020, 12:19 PM
you have very wrong imagination about Soviet "helpings" - I will answer in Yerevan Radio (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Yerevan_jokes) manner:

yes - Soviets helped, but not to the "East Block" countries but to develop republics inside the Soviet Union

Romania, Poland or DDR - lost on that a lot

The Lawspeaker
03-07-2020, 12:21 PM
I think most of the damage done to Bucharest wasn't even during the war but during the 1977 earthquake and the subsequent virtual annihilation of much of the old city due to Ceaușescu's insistence on having the city resemble Pyongyang. During the 1920s and 1930s, Bucharest had been known as Micul Paris - Little Paris. Not much of that remains now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_92txSMKvA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCJtmzhqw-4

Ülev
03-07-2020, 12:23 PM
little Paris or Paris of the East - still beautiful undiscovered city worth to visit

ixulescu
03-07-2020, 01:18 PM
1) Who helped rebuild Bucharest (and other cities) after its bombardment by the anti-Hitler coalition?
Certainly not the Soviet Union. Soviet Union basically enslaved Romania with enormous war debts (the size of 4 times the pre-war annual GDP of Romania) until 1970.



2) Why normal housing is built only in the countries of the "golden billion" (not for everyone), but in the capitalist India, the Congo, and even in Rio de Janeiro they build huts made of shit and sticks?
They are in a different stage of development - irrelevant point in this discussion.



3) The attitude to the communist legacy in Europe is quite different - in East Berlin, the “Khrushchevkas” were reconstructed and they are considered as normal housing, but as for what the Romanians did in the Ferentari district in Bucharest, I'll better stay silent.

Commiblocks are a stain everywhere they're built. They'll have to be covered, enveloped or something, to hide their miserable apperance. Just repainting them as in East Germany doesn't work, they're just as bad.

Ülev
03-07-2020, 02:13 PM
yay!


https://youtu.be/xw1HXvTRYN4


https://youtu.be/cDsAzuqOw6E

ixulescu
03-07-2020, 02:15 PM
yay!


https://youtu.be/xw1HXvTRYN4


https://youtu.be/cDsAzuqOw6E

fuck yes!

Samnium
03-07-2020, 02:17 PM
Communist architecture is ugly as fuck.

Rumata
03-08-2020, 07:25 AM
Alright, let's see.
Krasnodar was not a large city during Stalin's time. It's barely one now.
Only two Russian cities have size of a bigger level than Krasnodar. In Romania, only the capital is bigger. In Stalin's time it was still the center of a big region.


Of course they were limited because they were so few in the first place. I know you think Soviet Union was the paradise on earth, but in reality it was a shit show.
I've never said it was paradise. I always say it was preferable to the current system. Don't try to put your propagandist ideas in my messages.


Sure, they were given to working class families when the buildings became decrepit. Only those restored in central places are still sought after.
No, that building was new and given to a oil factory workers.


Yes they had central heating, but it rarely worked in nominal parameters, if at all.
Wrong. Even in the warm climate of Krasnodar the heating water radiator was hot all the time. Never heard about such problems around either.


Everyone in the West knows about commieblocks, but nobody knows about Stalinkas. And why should they since they are not representative for Soviet housing.
You know the word propaganda, right? They mostly know what propaganda says, like elsewhere. What you say too, actually.


Sure, they were decent, but only a few were built. The massive move of the villagers into the city started in the late 50s, right after Stalin's era.
Comparing stalinkas with their correspondent in Romania is hilarious. Romania had true luxury modernist and art deco apartments buildings made for real capitalists :lol:

There were many boulevards with such buildings in Bucharest as seen here at 9:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F3BFYNRRMY
I talked about average housing and you show luxury level buildings. Usual propagandist tricks. OK, I'll take the work to find a couple of modern fully capitalist "bloks" in Romania. Enjoy!

Strada Milano, nr.52, bloc A3, apartament 34, 900497 Констанца, Tomis Plus Studio,Румыния Румыния

https://q-ec.bstatic.com/images/hotel/max1024x768/305/30592652.jpg

https://q-cf.bstatic.com/images/hotel/max1024x768/195/195979069.jpg


Btw, only pussies who lost the argument downvote, please refrain in the future.
It's perfectly OK, do downvote a false message. That's what this function is for. Got it?

Rumata
03-08-2020, 07:28 AM
There's no such a style as "Communist architecture".

KirillMazur
03-08-2020, 04:13 PM
Certainly not the Soviet Union. Soviet Union basically enslaved Romania with enormous war debts (the size of 4 times the pre-war annual GDP of Romania) until 1970.
But now Romania has chosen the "European way" - complete de-industrialization, life on subsidies from Brussels and cleaning the toilets in Western Romance countries. Anything but the USSR;).


They are in a different stage of development - irrelevant point in this discussion.
"Developing" countries are a synonym for the names of robbed countries. They will never stop "developing" as long as there is a capitalist system with countries of the metropolis and countries of the periphery.


Commiblocks are a stain everywhere they're built.
The commieblocks were positioned as temporary housing in the post-war conditions. But in the 60s, the financial system changed and the course was taken on the degradation and destruction of the USSR, therefore, states still do not have the money to completely get rid of commieblocks.
Who built similar buildings in Marseille -
https://i.postimg.cc/DyGvrKgy/13.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
And in London -
https://i.postimg.cc/DwK25YjQ/thumb-20150529094501554.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Are evil communists to blame there too? I'm not a hardcore communist, it's just stupid to see the world in black and white like you.

Above, you gave examples of luxurious buildings in Bucharest. But why did you decide that you are certainly included in 1% of those people for whom these buildings are intended?
Here is your real living space, lovers of the "free" market from Romania, if not for the Communists. Do not forget about the 14 hour work day, lack of medicine and education for the masses, too.
https://i.postimg.cc/YSvmYCdD/transylvania-17370078.jpg

ixulescu
03-11-2020, 09:42 PM
Only two Russian cities have size of a bigger level than Krasnodar. In Romania, only the capital is bigger. In Stalin's time it was still the center of a big region.
Krasnodar was not a relevant large city, not then, not now. No surprise it didn't have a proper central pedestrian area.



I've never said it was paradise. I always say it was preferable to the current system. Don't try to put your propagandist ideas in my messages.
The point there was that decent quality housing was the exception. In general, the number of people living in apartments before 1955 was small, those living in decent ones was tiny (the apparatchiks) - in other words, good quality stalinkas are not representative for communist housing no matter how you spin it.



No, that building was new and given to a oil factory workers.

If it was, then it wasn't one of the good quality ones. From the outside it doesn't look good anyways.



Wrong. Even in the warm climate of Krasnodar the heating water radiator was hot all the time. Never heard about such problems around either.

Only in propaganda movies. How old were you in those times?



You know the word propaganda, right? They mostly know what propaganda says, like elsewhere. What you say too, actually.
Propaganda my ass. Stalinkas are small minority compared to later commieblocks.



I talked about average housing and you show luxury level buildings. Usual propagandist tricks. OK, I'll take the work to find a couple of modern fully capitalist "bloks" in Romania. Enjoy!
Stalinkas on pedestrian streets were the failed equivalent of capitalist luxury apartments, that's why I'm showing real luxury. Of course neither were not the norm.

That said, here is how low cost housing in Bucharest looked like the 1930s. They were made mostly for governmental workers but they were so good that Romanian nomenklatura moved in them after the war.

https://e-zeppelin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/10_A_Fig.-13-Arhiva-Dumitrache-Vatra-Luminoasa-1.jpg

there are full neighborhoods in Bucharest like this, here some samples of building designs:
https://e-zeppelin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/detaliu-Afisul-expozitiei.jpg



It's perfectly OK, do downvote a false message. That's what this function is for. Got it?
No. If you think a message contains falsehoods you have to dispute it first. If you cannot dispute it and just downvote then you're a pussy.

ixulescu
03-11-2020, 10:23 PM
But now Romania has chosen the "European way" - complete de-industrialization, life on subsidies from Brussels and cleaning the toilets in Western Romance countries. Anything but the USSR;).
This is false on all accounts. The number of jobs in industry are about as many as they were in 1989 (about 30% of the jobs), but the total value of Romanian exports has increased 6 fold compared to 1980s (in constant dollars). The GDP per capita has increased almost 10 times in the last 30 years. I'll spare a tear and a fart for USSR, pardon me.



"Developing" countries are a synonym for the names of robbed countries. They will never stop "developing" as long as there is a capitalist system with countries of the metropolis and countries of the periphery.
Pure nonsense. The salaries alone have increased 10 fold since I left Romania.



The commieblocks were positioned as temporary housing in the post-war conditions. But in the 60s, the financial system changed and the course was taken on the degradation and destruction of the USSR, therefore, states still do not have the money to completely get rid of commieblocks.
Who built similar buildings in Marseille -
And in London -
Are evil communists to blame there too? I'm not a hardcore communist, it's just stupid to see the world in black and white like you.
Of course commies are to blame. Do you think commies were only in the Eastern block? Soviets had plenty of sympathizers and enablers in the West. It's still possible to this day in the West to deny the hideous crimes of communism. (Neo)Marxists still dominate the humanities in Western colleges.



Above, you gave examples of luxurious buildings in Bucharest. But why did you decide that you are certainly included in 1% of those people for whom these buildings are intended?
Here is your real living space, lovers of the "free" market from Romania, if not for the Communists. Do not forget about the 14 hour work day, lack of medicine and education for the masses, too.

You're hilarious dude, that's not a house, that was a farmer's tool shed.
I explained my reply to Rumata why I posted luxury apartments.

Again I have to show the social housing built in Bucharest in the 1930, so good that Communists nomenklatura moved in after the war:
https://e-zeppelin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/10_A_Fig.-13-Arhiva-Dumitrache-Vatra-Luminoasa-1.jpg

There were many designs, some modernist, others more traditional:
https://e-zeppelin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/detaliu-Afisul-expozitiei.jpg

Ülev
03-11-2020, 10:28 PM
agreed, I buy many Romanian products here in Poland and asked older generation - there was only paper glue from Romania before 1989
(now: detergents - Bonux, Ace, smartphones - ok Chinese but of Romanian brand Allview, Dacia cars :D etc.)

The Lawspeaker
03-12-2020, 12:45 AM
How about Moscow's Metro stations:

https://remotegaijin.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/moscow-metro-featured-image.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f0/e2/b7/f0e2b756f92c56e9cd8aa371151643de.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/36/35/30/3635309d81f59cf84dd2bc9ae1c3ea05.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/N3DRYWdDgoTucodlJcqLFhTvMwwZ311MNfmCyhUzsz4wSHS5ro 6-G0pmiEUSwURFrOEsi1TWXZe7FHivfwaLiveGaQRvhcEGGguud1 1xnuxS

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c4/f1/9a/c4f19a55573e0c081da2c334ba35f24c.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Moscow_Metro_lighting_-_Novoslobodskaya.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Moscow_Novoslobodskaya_metro_entrance_asv2019-06.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Moscow_Kropotkinskaya_vestibule_07-2016.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Tverskoy_District%2C_Moscow%2C_Russia_-_panoramio_%2826%29.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/MosMetro_Teatralnaya_img3_asv2018-01.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Moscou_Ploshchad_Revolyutsii_%282%29.JPG

Daco Celtic
03-12-2020, 01:26 AM
Nicolae Porumbescu: City Center, Satu Mare, Romania, 1972–1988
Romanian Architect Nicolae Porumbescu was a great fan of Brutalism and developed a stunning local interpretation of it with this large scale complex:

https://i.imgur.com/6WUTOQn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8B7IYKA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iHN9jEp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7YMLC4n.jpg

The Lawspeaker
03-12-2020, 01:43 AM
^ Dear God... Well thankfully it's nothing that can't be solved with the right dose of TNT...

KirillMazur
03-13-2020, 05:04 PM
This is false on all accounts. The number of jobs in industry are about as many as they were in 1989 (about 30% of the jobs), but the total value of Romanian exports has increased 6 fold compared to 1980s (in constant dollars). The GDP per capita has increased almost 10 times in the last 30 years. I'll spare a tear and a fart for USSR, pardon me.


Pure nonsense. The salaries alone have increased 10 fold since I left Romania.
You can fart further - your country has lost independence. What it looks like in practice - the country has been plundered by Western companies that have taken everything that makes a profit for themselves, and destroyed the rest. And we see a huge mass of begging people and a small group of rich people, and this stratification will only grow.
Apparently, this is the EU enlargement strategy that Brussels has developed a long time ago. First, a new EU member is forced to freeze salaries and pensions, cut social assistance and raise utility bills. When the economy begins to burst at the seams, and enterprises are rapidly depreciating, a “good” western investor appears, buying up everything cheaply. Thus, the same Romania completely lost control over its banking system, the oil and metallurgical industries. All are owned by Austrians and British, and Romanians, in fact, are tenants in their own country.
At first, the illusion that the standard of living was growing was supported by cheap European loans. But they quickly ended, but the debts remained. But Romania no longer has its own production.


Of course commies are to blame. Do you think commies were only in the Eastern block? Soviets had plenty of sympathizers and enablers in the West. It's still possible to this day in the West to deny the hideous crimes of communism. (Neo)Marxists still dominate the humanities in Western colleges.
Again, bad communists are to blame for everything. You just washed your pants, the bad communist immediately came and took a dump in them.
But why do you equate the USSR and neo-Marxists if their views on Marxism had more differences than similarities? Neo-Marxists are a weapon of the class of big owners of capital with the goal of discrediting the success of the USSR and throwing mud at Soviet (Stalinist) socialism model.



You're hilarious dude, that's not a house, that was a farmer's tool shed.
I explained my reply to Rumata why I posted luxury apartments.

Again I have to show the social housing built in Bucharest in the 1930, so good that Communists nomenklatura moved in after the war:
https://e-zeppelin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/10_A_Fig.-13-Arhiva-Dumitrache-Vatra-Luminoasa-1.jpg

High-quality capitalist buildings for the working class are ordinary concessions in order to avoid the socialist revolution in their country. While the USSR was alive as an alternative system, the capitalists were forced to take care of the population out of fear, but not out of respect.
Now, under an uncontrolled "free market", capsule housing for the poor is already becoming fashionable (not for free, of course), moreover, it is touted as "innovation."
Under the USSR, such a shame could not be.

Rumata
03-13-2020, 06:48 PM
Krasnodar was not a relevant large city, not then, not now. No surprise it didn't have a proper central pedestrian area.
Wrong. Krasnodar is relevant and it's way overcrowded numbering over a million inhabitants and being one of the most fastly growing megapolises of RF. In Stalin's time it was different, but still the center of a rich region.


The point there was that decent quality housing was the exception. In general, the number of people living in apartments before 1955 was small, those living in decent ones was tiny (the apparatchiks) - in other words, good quality stalinkas are not representative for communist housing no matter how you spin it.

If it was, then it wasn't one of the good quality ones. From the outside it doesn't look good anyways.
Appartments in that building had brick walls, about 3.3 meters high ceilings, parquette floor, separated bath room and toilette room.
It was built in 1953 and it was given to the workers of the nearby oil factory. The thumb down is rightfully yours.


Only in propaganda movies. How old were you in those times?
My mother lived in this building since about 1980, when I was 5.


Propaganda my ass. Stalinkas are small minority compared to later commieblocks.
Parroting "commieblocks" proves once again you are a propagandist. The truth is those "blocks" even aren't an invention of communists:
Why do we live in such ugly houses? (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?290815-Why-do-we-live-in-such-ugly-houses)


Stalinkas on pedestrian streets were the failed equivalent of capitalist luxury apartments, that's why I'm showing real luxury. Of course neither were not the norm.
You replied with luxure capitalist building to my phrase about average Romanian buildings of Stalin's time.


That said, here is how low cost housing in Bucharest looked like the 1930s. They were made mostly for governmental workers but they were so good that Romanian nomenklatura moved in them after the war.

https://e-zeppelin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/10_A_Fig.-13-Arhiva-Dumitrache-Vatra-Luminoasa-1.jpg

there are full neighborhoods in Bucharest like this, here some samples of building designs:
https://e-zeppelin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/detaliu-Afisul-expozitiei.jpg
Now it's a convenient photo of the building that is even uglier than typical communist blocks.


No. If you think a message contains falsehoods you have to dispute it first. If you cannot dispute it and just downvote then you're a pussy.
I can do it simultanously as well. Besides, there are cases that are rather obvious.

Rumata
03-13-2020, 06:56 PM
ixulescu, I've never said the stalinkas were majority of Soviet buildings, but you first said everything Soviet were crap to demolish and the you said the stalinkas were OK.

Then you said the stalinkas were built only in central streets and it was another lie. Proof:
https://www.google.ru/maps/@47.2233451,39.722854,3a,75y,22.23h,96.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s3fOaXVi_NN3ERRnHXABDBA!2e0!6s% 2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D3fOaXVi_NN3ER RnHXABDBA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_ sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26y aw%3D332.81558%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i1331 2!8i6656

Generally, it's not the way to argue.

Rumata
03-13-2020, 07:04 PM
agreed, I buy many Romanian products here in Poland and asked older generation - there was only paper glue from Romania before 1989
(now: detergents - Bonux, Ace, smartphones - ok Chinese but of Romanian brand Allview, Dacia cars :D etc.)

You're lucky. I can't remember anything Romanian made.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 07:29 PM
You're lucky. I can't remember anything Romanian made.

Don't worry, you can't afford it anymore. But carry on, praise Putin.

Rumata
03-13-2020, 07:32 PM
Don't worry, you can't afford it anymore. But carry on, praise Putin.

I've never even praise Puting here. You convince me of being a delusional prick.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 07:35 PM
ixulescu, I've never said the stalinkas were majority of Soviet buildings, but you first said everything Soviet were crap to demolish and the you said the stalinkas were OK.

99% of the communist buildings need to be brought down. Even if I might have said something somewhat broad, the statement remains true.



Then you said the stalinkas were built only in central streets and it was another lie. Proof:
https://www.google.ru/maps/@47.2233451,39.722854,3a,75y,22.23h,96.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s3fOaXVi_NN3ERRnHXABDBA!2e0!6s% 2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D3fOaXVi_NN3ER RnHXABDBA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_ sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26y aw%3D332.81558%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i1331 2!8i6656

Generally, it's not the way to argue.

Check that fucking Google map and only then open your mouth - the area of that intersection is labeled city CENTER.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 07:36 PM
I've never even praise Puting here. You convince me of being a delusional prick.

Alright, then carry on praising communism. Putinism is just the current incarnation.

Rumata
03-13-2020, 07:39 PM
99% of the communist buildings need to be brought down. Even if I might have said something somewhat broad, the statement remains true.
Looks strongly like another fail.


Check that fucking Google map and only then open your mouth - the area of that intersection is labeled city CENTER.
Reread your idiotic post where you claimed central streets only. Time waster.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 07:40 PM
Looks strongly like another fail.


Reread your idiotic post where you claimed central streets only. Time waster.

I rarely meet individuals so determined to be stupid.
Streets in the central area are central streets. Unbelievable.

Rumata
03-13-2020, 07:40 PM
Alright, then carry on praising communism. Putinism is just the current incarnation.

No need for further posts to prove your clinical idiotism. Bye.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 07:42 PM
No need for further post to prove your clinical idiotism. Bye.

You're truly special.

Aldaris
03-13-2020, 07:43 PM
And that's why you firstly make sure both parties mean the same, when using the same term.

Rumata
03-13-2020, 07:45 PM
I rarely meet individuals so determined to be stupid.
Streets in the central area are central streets. Unbelievable.

A city has one central (main) street.
And the city's centre has multiple streets.

Bye, retard.

Aldaris
03-13-2020, 07:46 PM
And anyway.

http://postimg.cz/images/kYyPp.jpg

Ülev
03-13-2020, 07:52 PM
all those "vysotkas (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%8B%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_% D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5)" are 20 years late bad copies from the USA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Deco

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 07:59 PM
A city has one central (main) street.
And the city's centre has multiple streets.

Bye, retard.

What an idiot. Who says a city can have only one central street? I've never heard such bullshit.
Are you talking about a city or a village?

Can you fucking read? Try these simple sentences.
In my previous posts I said that stalinkas in pedestrian areas were better built. It doesn't mean that stalinkas were not built in other areas of the city center, or other areas of the city in general. However, the farther they were from the center the worse the quality of the building was. At the same time, on average, the quality of the stalinkas was better than of the latter commieblocks, however only a few stalinkas were built, the large majority of apartment buildings were made after 1955.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 08:01 PM
all those "vysotkas (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%8B%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_% D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5)" are 20 years late bad copies from the USA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Deco

Right, they were modest copies of Art Deco and neogothic skyscrapers.
But I bet commie sympathizers still crap their pants in joy when they see them.

However, I'm not against them. They might be part of the few commie buildings worth saving.
In Bucharest they were some of the earliest steel beam buildings:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Sidz07XZ0xpI8QG13iHc0Vjg7hGgugED1dyKa3Q5sEvMXDqqg-9-G6d0IPijRaviSMyCniWa9bQEzcy5KL9rQX3k2T9_mhz3VZqJ4c vGkE7leeHvVxLsN2QBlQ3LJGjbYO75mL1vRO9eg0A

https://scontent.fotp3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/85248683_131368738092773_1501472445868015616_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ohc=Q4i9ujxOZ7EAX8yT4M0&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp3-1.fna&oh=a15a82896408c277403d86137d7ce3cc&oe=5ECAC541

Rumata
03-13-2020, 08:08 PM
all those "vysotkas (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%8B%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_% D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5)" are 20 years late bad copies from the USA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Deco


Right, they were modest copies of Art Deco and neogothic skyscrapers.
But I bet commie sympathizers still crap their pants in joy when they see them.

However, I'm not against them. They might be part of the few commie buildings worth saving.

Dear clowns, the style in the link is different from stalinkas.
Also "vysotka" in Russian means a skyscraper while stalinkas were only a few stores high in absolute majoity.

Fails upon fails.

Westbrook
03-13-2020, 08:09 PM
Isn't the FBI HQ building in D.C. built in this style? I wonder if they did it ironically.


Edit - Here it is

https://wtop.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Hoover_Building_AP.jpg

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 08:12 PM
Dear clowns, the style in the link is different from stalinkas.
Also "vysotka" in Russian means a skyscraper while stalinkas were only a few stores high in absolute majoity.

Fails upon fails.

Who said in this thread that vysotkas are stalinkas? you're delirious.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 08:13 PM
Isn't the FBI HQ building in D.C. built in this style? I wonder if they did it ironically.


Edit - Here it is

https://i.insider.com/5988e37f76084a6b008b67ae?width=1100&format=jpeg&auto=webp

this is brutalism. popular in communist countries, but made better by capitalists :D

Rumata
03-13-2020, 08:15 PM
What an idiot. Who says a city can have only one central street? I've never heard such bullshit.
Are you talking about a city or a village?


In Soviet Union there were some cities with one central street. Krasnodar was one of them. I see you know shit about it but you have a strong drive for propaganda.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 08:19 PM
In Soviet Union there were some cities with one central street. Krasnodar was one of them. I see you know shit about it but you have a strong drive for propaganda.

a city with a large street :lol: dude you're describing a village, I'm sure it works for krasnodar

Rumata
03-13-2020, 08:24 PM
a city with a large street :lol: dude you're describing a village, I'm sure it works for krasnodar

Not large, you cheap word twister. I meant central, main street which is best built. I disaprove this attitude too.

Ülev
03-13-2020, 08:24 PM
a city with a large street :lol: dude you're describing a village, I'm sure it works for krasnodar

you know nothing about "Russkiy Mir" - Russian World, they have own standards - therefore misunderstanding, lol

Rumata
03-13-2020, 08:26 PM
you know nothing about "Russkiy Mir" - Russian World, they have own standards - therefore misunderstanding, lol

Don't you think you'd be better off knowing less about it too?

Ülev
03-13-2020, 08:29 PM
Don't you think you'd be better off knowing less about it too?

is that typical Russian behave? - scaring others, lol, no I want to know more and more

Westbrook
03-13-2020, 08:29 PM
this is brutalism. popular in communist countries, but made better by capitalists :D

Kinda looks like this one

https://i.postimg.cc/ryttX4ZL/0-19cd65-d8323856-XL.jpg

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 08:32 PM
Not large, you cheap word twister. I meant central, main street which is best built. I disaprove this attitude too.

dude, main street is for mom and pop shops, totally village worthy. Do a search for "main street":
https://www.google.com/search?q=main+street&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS824US824&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiNsPTzpJjoAhUQIqwKHTWWCFsQ_AUoA3oECBQQB Q

you just can't read, can't speak, but you want to debate. just fucking take a break.

Rumata
03-13-2020, 08:32 PM
is that typical Russian behave? - scaring others, lol, no I want to know more and more

Not scaring but caring (about your mental health).

Rumata
03-13-2020, 08:34 PM
dude, main street is for mom and pop shops, totally village worthy. Do a search for "main street":
https://www.google.com/search?q=main+street&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS824US824&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiNsPTzpJjoAhUQIqwKHTWWCFsQ_AUoA3oECBQQB Q

you just can't read, can't speak, but you want to debate. just fucking take a break.

I disaprove this city planning.

And I disaprove wasting time on you.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 08:36 PM
And I disaprove wasting time on you.

of course, why would you learn something.

Ülev
03-13-2020, 08:38 PM
you know nothing about "Russkiy Mir" - Russian World, they have own standards - therefore misunderstanding, lol

those standards for example crush pedestrians underground and give car drivers every comfort, now when they can observe how it works in Europe they try to change it ... slowly (thanks god)



https://youtu.be/-XAqi0e0Oig


https://youtu.be/APOBiN8tLNw

Rumata
03-13-2020, 08:39 PM
of course, why would you learn something.

Preach your propaganda to your countrymen, so Romania becomes new Great Breatan sooner.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 08:47 PM
Preach your propaganda to your countrymen, so Romania becomes new Great Breatan sooner.

I can't see why talking to me bothers you.

Nothing will stop the return of Stalinism in Russia. Once Putin removes the term limits he'll be in power for life. Joy forever.

Rumata
03-13-2020, 08:57 PM
I can't see why talking to me bothers you.

Nothing will stop the return of Stalinism in Russia. Once Putin removes the term limits he'll be in power for life. Joy forever.

OK, the no-clue neo capitalist.

ixulescu
03-13-2020, 08:59 PM
OK, the no-clue neo capitalist.

talk to me in 5 years.

Rumata
03-13-2020, 09:01 PM
talk to me in 5 years.

Romania in 5 years

http://www.litsovet.ru/files/8398/material_images/Gostq2__Pochemu_tak_ne_ljubjat_R0.png

Ülev
03-14-2020, 04:39 PM
Moscow walks, not that bad, but no rainwater drainage system, roof water floods pavements, in winter - broken arms and legs (potentially) - things to do in entire Russia


https://youtu.be/4ylGr6AhYoM

KirillMazur
03-15-2020, 12:26 AM
^ Dear God... Well thankfully it's nothing that can't be solved with the right dose of TNT...
I agree - very unsuccessful buildings. The very case when under the guise of a new innovative style - "brutalism", hiding trivial economy. But in our time, business has learned to mask cost savings much better:).

The Lawspeaker
03-15-2020, 02:54 AM
Moscow walks, not that bad, but no rainwater drainage system, roof water floods pavements, in winter - broken arms and legs (potentially) - things to do in entire Russia


https://youtu.be/4ylGr6AhYoM


To be fair and honest: you know what the climate is like in Russia: thanks to the ice-cold winters and the constant subsiding soil, you can build a road in summer and detail it nice and smooth.... and sit back thinking that, even if the winter is going to be a nightmare, you're going to have a nice road come spring. Well spring comes and lo-and-behold: you can start over again from scratch because the bottom fell out. Did you know they have similar problems in parts of Scandinavia (I've seen it in Norway) ? Nobody can claim that they do piss poor maintenance. Look up rasputitsa. It's a traditional Russian nightmare in spring - when the roads turn to a sea of mud and even the best roads suffer from instability because the whole soil on which they were build melts away.

Napoleon, Hitler or modern Oleg the commuter. It doesn't matter a damn. They are all swearing wile wading through a sea of mud:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFQ87MVYknM

For what I know - anything late March and June is nightmare.

Ülev
03-15-2020, 04:15 PM
To be fair and honest: you know what the climate is like in Russia: thanks to the ice-cold winters and the constant subsiding soil, you can build a road in summer and detail it nice and smooth.... and sit back thinking that, even if the winter is going to be a nightmare, you're going to have a nice road come spring. Well spring comes and lo-and-behold: you can start over again from scratch because the bottom fell out. Did you know they have similar problems in parts of Scandinavia (I've seen it in Norway) ? Nobody can claim that they do piss poor maintenance. Look up rasputitsa. It's a traditional Russian nightmare in spring - when the roads turn to a sea of mud and even the best roads suffer from instability because the whole soil on which they were build melts away.

Napoleon, Hitler or modern Oleg the commuter. It doesn't matter a damn. They are all swearing wile wading through a sea of mud:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFQ87MVYknM

For what I know - anything late March and June is nightmare.



I meant they don't have proper Storm Drain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_drain), roof water floods pavements, there is no rainwater drainage system, look ---> on that video:
https://i.postimg.cc/X7hBRm71/rynna1a.png
https://i.postimg.cc/qBDNKSnB/rynna1b.png

Liberec:

https://i.postimg.cc/CLQYmVL5/liberec2.jpg

Rumata
03-15-2020, 04:23 PM
Moscow walks, not that bad, but no rainwater drainage system, roof water floods pavements, in winter - broken arms and legs (potentially) - things to do in entire Russia

The rainwater doesn't run by rain-pipes :picard2: You make very stupid "mistakes" when they fit your agenda.

Road and trotoir drainage systems exist (even though it sucks in many parts of my city).

The Lawspeaker
03-15-2020, 04:26 PM
I meant they don't have proper Storm Drain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_drain), roof water floods pavements, there is no rainwater drainage system, look ---> on that video:
https://i.postimg.cc/X7hBRm71/rynna1a.png
https://i.postimg.cc/qBDNKSnB/rynna1b.png

Liberec:

https://i.postimg.cc/CLQYmVL5/liberec2.jpg

Aye. But have you also seen how even decent roads get turned to mud in the countryside ? No storm drains to blame there. It's just the season. I have seen the same in Norway (just not in towns but I have seen whole parts of mountain roads break off). They just get washed away by the melting snow and the subsiding soil. Now unless really want to build roads on a kind of "bridge" over the soil with pylons rammed in several meters and build a nice enclosure over it - maybe you'd get to prevent it, but that's going to cost you more than what fixing the road does.

The Lawspeaker
03-15-2020, 04:31 PM
But don't fuss ! Come summer, you have a perfect road to drive on. Same goes for winter: just use your winter tyres (they are compulsory between 1 December and 1 March) and you should be right as rain - unless you're a speeding road monkey and then you end up Darwin'ing yourself... but that's the same in other places with a similar climate. They can chuck as much road salt on the road as they want - you'll still have to abide by the speed limits (if they follow similar procedures to our road services) they set for that particular road for that particular day because roads will still ice over.

Ülev
03-15-2020, 04:34 PM
to cut off one’s nose to spite one’s face
there is saying in Poland - na złość mamie odmrożę sobie uszy - literary: I will frostbite my ears to make my mother angry


I will broke my legs to make Sundqvist angry.

look at those print screens again please

Rumata
03-15-2020, 04:42 PM
look at those print screens again please

I've read your text input (one of 19,003 of your messages). And the message with this text preceded your graphic attachments. Enough with these riddles.

Ülev
03-15-2020, 04:44 PM
Krasnodar (for example 2:39)
the roof water floods pavements, in winter it freezes on the pavement - broken arms and legs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnodar#Climate


https://youtu.be/TvWbP-KIo4E

Ülev
03-15-2020, 04:55 PM
But don't fuss ! Come summer, you have a perfect road to drive on. Same goes for winter: just use your winter tyres (they are compulsory between 1 December and 1 March) and you should be right as rain - unless you're a speeding road monkey and then you end up Darwin'ing yourself... but that's the same in other places with a similar climate. They can chuck as much road salt on the road as they want - you'll still have to abide by the speed limits (if they follow similar procedures to our road services) they set for that particular road for that particular day because roads will still ice over.

I don't care that much about car drivers, every inhabitant of the city/town is a pedestrian - even those who has Lamborgini, the city should be pedestrian friendly, how it can be friendly if water from rain pipes floods pavement at any time of the year?

Ranger0075
03-15-2020, 04:57 PM
ROFL

I don't know if it looks bad cause lack of resources in USRR or 'cause ideologically it used to play the equality game where rich architecture would originate a new class conflict society

Rumata
03-15-2020, 05:41 PM
Krasnodar (for example 2:39)
the roof water floods pavements, in winter it freezes on the pavement - broken arms and legs


Frozen pavements were very rare this winter in Krasnodar, but your care about our arms and legs is very touching. Keep up your work.

Ülev
03-15-2020, 05:51 PM
Krasnodar (for example 2:39)
the roof water floods pavements, in winter it freezes on the pavement - broken arms and legs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnodar#Climate


https://youtu.be/TvWbP-KIo4E


Frozen pavements were very rare this winter in Krasnodar, but your care about our arms and legs is very touching. Keep up your work.

you omit the weather conditions for Krasnodar? why?
this year's winter was warm almost everywhere

Rumata
03-15-2020, 06:25 PM
you omit the weather conditions for Krasnodar? why?
this year's winter was warm almost everywhere

Krasnodar had almost no ice on pavements.

The Lawspeaker
03-15-2020, 07:59 PM
I don't care that much about car drivers, every inhabitant of the city/town is a pedestrian - even those who has Lamborgini, the city should be pedestrian friendly, how it can be friendly if water from rain pipes floods pavement at any time of the year?


There won't be be much ice on pavements there - as most Russians still walk and use public transport to get from A to B in an urban setting.

Roy
03-16-2020, 05:41 PM
There won't be be much ice on pavements there - as most Russians still walk and use public transport to get from A to B in an urban setting.

You forgot about crawl. :coffee:

Roy
03-19-2020, 08:08 PM
In Soviet Russia architectural wonders build you!

Wild North
03-22-2020, 12:01 PM
The stalinist Buildings in Moscow, and elsewhere in Eastern Europe, show some traces of neoclassicism and a bit Gothic...

But there are also these statues of giant Soldiers in more brutalist/futuristic style, like composed of giant blocks...

And then we have the parliament building in Bucharest..

Wild North
03-22-2020, 03:02 PM
Dictators, like Stalin and Hitler, when coming to architecture, have a "grotesque" taste.

Aspirin
03-27-2020, 04:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-QteQdJJt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dXgsu78190

Ülev
03-27-2020, 04:52 PM
^^
there is the song about "panelki"


https://youtu.be/QUnw7OjeKBI

Aspirin
03-27-2020, 04:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rawO6IS-b-o

The Lawspeaker
03-27-2020, 04:58 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Moscow-russia-stalinist-architecture-june-2010.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Moscow_SE_housing_orlov_1938.jpg

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/moscow-russia-march-apartment-building-arch-street-zemlyanoy-wall-sample-stalinist-architecture-69696763.jpg

https://previews.123rf.com/images/inhabitant/inhabitant1706/inhabitant170600005/80431380-fragment-of-apartment-stalin-era-building-in-moscow-russia.jpg

Ülev
03-27-2020, 05:01 PM
^^
Перекресток on that photo is kind of Dutch "Dirk" or "Jumbo" btw

Ülev
03-27-2020, 05:10 PM
Falowiec

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falowiec


Falowiec (plural: falowce; from the Polish word fala, wave) is a block of flats characterised by its length and wavy shape. This type of building was built in Poland in the late 1960s and 1970s in the Polish city of Gdańsk, where there are eight buildings of this type. Some buildings of this kind are also present in Italy. (...)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/GDANSK%2C_Falowiec_na_Obroncow_Wybrzeza.JPG/1200px-GDANSK%2C_Falowiec_na_Obroncow_Wybrzeza.JPG

Rumata
03-28-2020, 05:55 AM
Falowiec

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falowiec

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/GDANSK%2C_Falowiec_na_Obroncow_Wybrzeza.JPG/1200px-GDANSK%2C_Falowiec_na_Obroncow_Wybrzeza.JPG

I sincerely sorry USSR done it to you.

Salty Ears
04-25-2020, 01:29 PM
Lenin-sphynx at Kirov reservoir at Talas river in Kyrgyzstan

https://sun9-63.userapi.com/c857728/v857728689/1d5d1f/VnbUQOVG4sg.jpg

https://sun9-18.userapi.com/c857728/v857728689/1d5d31/UFnKs8AErCg.jpg

KirillMazur
04-26-2020, 04:55 PM
A bit of constructivism.
https://i.postimg.cc/fbtJ9H9j/4c5a6e233b4b72752a5a10e3f608dd77.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/RhsBGmr3/7af24c1d7f994c1302f4300fa93360b8.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/NFpgVTXj/9107175b84c5ed52b31be24253745013.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/T1RdCQps/b597711253955d11eb47a46c54748575.jpg (https://postimg.cc/WFHc4Gmm)

And monumentalism:):
https://i.postimg.cc/LsWRz2pn/75e5063e13fb1ede4b746658aac76de9.png (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/gcCJCy1n/98280284ce551bb6e39943a9c2ee4946.png (https://postimages.org/)

ixulescu
04-26-2020, 05:01 PM
I sincerely sorry USSR done it to you.

There's no point in being sarcastic. USSR did this when it imposed communist regimes in the countries of the Eastern block.

Apparatchiks only reproduced what they saw in the USSR resulting in millions of deaths, defaced cities and widespread corruption.

Rumata
04-26-2020, 05:42 PM
There's no point in being sarcastic.

And I wasn't. It's a pity someone had to build it that ugly.

KrashNick
04-26-2020, 08:37 PM
https://www.periskopi.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Buildings-of-Prishtina-from-Cathedral-Bell-Tower-Prishtina-Kosovo.jpg
https://mzhe-ks.net/repository/images/main/KEK-distribucioni.jpg
https://photos.wikimapia.org/p/00/01/88/14/25_big.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/28/bd/e828bd6716723959f33f92a589cec0bf.png
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/0e/c3/7d0ec37b4591ad7d71c96cd26ad12ad6.jpg
https://lh5.ggpht.com/_QH1Ai6qogr4/S22bPVlyt2I/AAAAAAAACyc/meZyJ7pSxW8/s800/_DSC0338.JPG

Ülev
04-26-2020, 08:50 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Bundesarchiv_B_145_Bild-F088900-0002%2C_Wittenberg%2C_W%C3%A4chterh%C3%A4uschen_de r_Sowjetarmee.jpg
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Bundesarchiv_B_145_Bild-F088900-0002,_Wittenberg,_W%C3%A4chterh%C3%A4uschen_der_So wjetarmee.jpg
Soviet watchpost in Wittenberg, 1991

Ülev
04-26-2020, 08:54 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Wej%C5%9Bcie_do_silosu_atomowego.JPG/1197px-Wej%C5%9Bcie_do_silosu_atomowego.JPG

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plik:Wej%C5%9Bcie_do_silosu_atomowego.JPG
Entrance to the Soviet nuclear silo in Podborsk

щрбл
04-27-2020, 12:02 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Wej%C5%9Bcie_do_silosu_atomowego.JPG/1197px-Wej%C5%9Bcie_do_silosu_atomowego.JPG

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plik:Wej%C5%9Bcie_do_silosu_atomowego.JPG
Entrance to the Soviet nuclear silo in Podborsk

rainbows and pink elephants are missing

Ülev
05-01-2020, 06:31 PM
Moscow walks, not that bad, but no rainwater drainage system, roof water floods pavements, in winter - broken arms and legs (potentially) - things to do in entire Russia


https://youtu.be/4ylGr6AhYoM

Today I was doing daily covid19 walk and took 2 photos because of "famous" Storm Drain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_drain)
recently in provincial town in west Poland they rebuild old center, which was destroyed by the Soviet Army

Sagan was occupied by Soviet troops during the third week of February 1945, following several days of savage fighting.
and this is how Storm Drainage System should looks like
https://a.uguu.se/8xsBWqSRmLD1.jpg
https://a.uguu.se/G8f1V2QxhBP8.jpg

Ülev
06-05-2020, 01:00 PM
R. Pe
vor 3 Tagen
Die kommunisten haben magdeburg zu einer der hässlichsten städte deutschlands gemacht.
Statt einer altstadt eine plattenbausiedlung. Die altstadt muss ihre alte struktur zurück erhalten und die platten abgerissen werden.


https://youtu.be/hlMtp_tlCLA

Vojnik
06-05-2020, 01:16 PM
https://sovietmodernism.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/central-post-office-skopje-macedonia-6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bTXlBdz.png

Finnish Swede
06-05-2020, 01:29 PM
Druzhba hotel in Viborg/Viipuri (town which Russians stole from Finland WWII).

The hotel itself was built by one Finland's company 1982 (to get it done?), but as it looks so ugly cold concrete building ... the look has been decided/planned by ''communists''.

https://travelhit.fi/%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5.jpg

https://thumbnails.trvl-media.com/6wv85_miF373CMDufkasf5PXLOw=/500x333/smart/filters:quality(80)/images.trvl-media.com/hotels/1000000/920000/914600/914518/e7dd87a0_z.jpg

Ülev
06-06-2020, 10:55 AM
"Victory Day"ers came, destroyed almost all old buildings (one survive) and put ugly blocks

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?322283-May-9-Happy-Great-Victory-Day!-75-years

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0TFgkNc/P-20200606-114944-HDR-kopia.jpg

Arūnas
09-11-2021, 09:10 PM
Vladimir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir,_Russia) railway station
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Vladimir_railway_station_Russia1.jpg

Salty Ears
09-12-2021, 08:48 AM
Vladimir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir,_Russia) railway station
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Vladimir_railway_station_Russia1.jpg

Occult gravestone on the place of old station built in the 1860x and demolished in 1970x.

https://opt-833487.ssl.1c-bitrix-cdn.ru/upload/photo/2019/1022-vokzal/oldvokzal18.jpg

by the way old building wasnt demolished when new railway station building in Chelyabinsk was built

http://asf.ural.ru/VNKSF/Program/2020-Ufa-Magnitogorsk/06-Chelyabinsk/images/Chel-02.jpg

https://kakdobratsyado.ru/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/1CHelyabinsk-dostoprimechatelnosti.jpg

Leonid Chuprin - chief architect of project in Chelyabinsk, also worked on project in Sofia

https://financebg.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/centralna_gara.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Sofia-CentralStation-20070923-02.jpg