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Gone West
10-17-2017, 09:47 PM
Which is the "purest" ?

For me I think they are both full original Nordid with no admixture.

Also If you say no, bring proofs.

AphroditeWorshiper
10-17-2017, 09:49 PM
first of all, both are the same shit

and there no "pure Nordid"

Token
10-17-2017, 09:55 PM
Both are considered relatively unmixed Aurignacids and the purest Nordid forms.

Linebacker
10-17-2017, 10:40 PM
Hallstatt Nordid is the one free from Cromag influences,a pure Nordid,if this is what you are asking.

Classic Hallstatt - non CM

http://i.imgur.com/cQizw6I.jpg

East Nordid(Kirilenko,Russian origin,Poster boy of how most Russian Nordids look) - CM influenced

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/1210/ny_g_kirilenko_b1_600x400.jpg

Gone West
10-17-2017, 10:49 PM
Hallstatt Nordid is the one free from Cromag influences,a pure Nordid,if this is what you are asking.

Classic Hallstatt - non CM

http://i.imgur.com/cQizw6I.jpg

East Nordid(Kirilenko,Russian origin,Poster boy of how most Russian Nordids look) - CM influenced

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/1210/ny_g_kirilenko_b1_600x400.jpg

How were CM looking ? Nordics too ?

cosmoo
10-17-2017, 10:55 PM
Hallstatt Nordid is the one free from Cromag influences,a pure Nordid,if this is what you are asking.

Classic Hallstatt - non CM

http://i.imgur.com/cQizw6I.jpg

East Nordid(Kirilenko,Russian origin,Poster boy of how most Russian Nordids look) - CM influenced

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/1210/ny_g_kirilenko_b1_600x400.jpg

Corded ("East Nordid") is not in any way CM-influenced for merely being more robust than Hallstatt. And later is derived from former, not vice versa.

Linebacker
10-17-2017, 10:58 PM
Corded ("East Nordid") is not in any way CM-influenced for merely being more robust than Hallstatt. And later is derived from former, not vice versa.

Explain why East Nordids,most of whom come from Russia looks always in 90% of cases CM influenced.They still got the typical more narrow and long Nordid face but their browridges are stronger and they have much more developed cheekbones and chins than Hallstatts.

cosmoo
10-17-2017, 11:13 PM
Explain why East Nordids,most of whom come from Russia looks always in 90% of cases CM influenced.They still got the typical more narrow and long Nordid face but their browridges are stronger and they have much more developed cheekbones and chins than Hallstatts.
Hallstatt developed when original proto-IE Cordeds (higher headed, more dolichocephalic, taller, and with stouter build than Hallstatt) mixed with Neolithic Danubians.
The features you describe are not exclusive to CM. And Cordeds do not have lateral development of zygomata which is characteristic of CM, forward one is insignificant.

Linebacker
10-17-2017, 11:20 PM
Hallstatt developed when original proto-IE Cordeds (higher headed, more dolichocephalic, taller, and with stouter build than Hallstatt) mixed with Neolithic Danubians.
The features you describe are not exclusive to CM. And Cordeds do not have lateral development of zygomata which is characteristic of CM, forward one is insignificant.

Cordeds were maybe pure at the time of the Corded Ware culuture/Bronze age,for modern descendants the reality is different.

cosmoo
10-17-2017, 11:38 PM
Cordeds were maybe pure at the time of the Corded Ware culuture/Bronze age,for modern descendants the reality is different.

Pure examples can be found as isolates, but they never form a dominant populational element.

Columella
10-18-2017, 11:23 AM
These are local Subtypes, belonging to different authors (Coon for te first one). East Nordic should correspond to Coon’s “Exotic Nordic” plates.

I would level all difference and just use “Nordic”

Veslan
10-18-2017, 03:34 PM
Hallstatt Nordid is the one free from Cromag influences,a pure Nordid,if this is what you are asking.

Classic Hallstatt - non CM

http://i.imgur.com/cQizw6I.jpg

East Nordid(Kirilenko,Russian origin,Poster boy of how most Russian Nordids look) - CM influenced

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/1210/ny_g_kirilenko_b1_600x400.jpg

East Nordids were first, and Nordid altered by CM admixture is called "Tronder", not East Nordid...

The main diffrence is that Hallstatt are influenced by "Danubian" admixture, giving them wider forehead and smaller nose than original East Nordids have. Present-day East Nordids are more influenced by races like Dinaric and Baltid. According to B. Lundman, there is also diffrence in skull height (East Nordids have higher skulls than Scando-Nordids).

Veslan
10-18-2017, 03:35 PM
East Nordic should correspond to Coon’s “Exotic Nordic” plates.
And Nordids with Corded predominance, obviously.

Hamlet
10-18-2017, 03:38 PM
Hallstatt is the purest Nordid that is currently in a stable form. However, some would argue the original Corded type is purer, as it is the form from which all Nordid forms are ultimately based. East Nordid is Corded+(gracilised) CM, so not pure, but closer to Corded than Hallstatt is.

Leopard
10-18-2017, 04:36 PM
Hallstat nordids are pussies, East Nordids are more robust, but ultimately all nordids are cucks.

Peterski
10-23-2017, 08:08 PM
Hallstat Nordid types have no cheekbones.