View Full Version : Could I pass as a Cossack ( Poll over)
Decius
10-17-2017, 11:48 PM
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Sikeliot
10-17-2017, 11:50 PM
I don't know what that even looks like...
Decius
10-17-2017, 11:53 PM
I don't know what that even looks like...
They are slavic peoples from Ukraine and Southern Russia they are warriors I guess they kinda look like Ukranians
https://www.google.ca/search?q=cossacks+kuban&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjTp4SM7fjWAhWm6YMKHeFdB2QQ_AUICigB&biw=1200&bih=855#imgrc=VN58l--76fQvBM:
Jennifer
10-18-2017, 12:05 AM
I think so. Physically anyway.
Token
10-18-2017, 12:05 AM
Yes, easily.
Decius
10-18-2017, 12:07 AM
I think so. Physically anyway.
Vote is it very well or somewhat
Proto-Shaman
10-18-2017, 12:13 AM
Cossack look is Tatar look. Hence no.
Decius
10-18-2017, 12:15 AM
Cossack look is Tatar look. Hence no.
Kuban Cossacks mainly look slavic like Ukranians
https://i.imgur.com/A0llliq.jpg
Decius
10-18-2017, 12:24 AM
Cossack look is Tatar look. Hence no.
I made a thread a while ago about cossack phenotypes https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222988-What-are-the-main-phenotypes-of-cossacks
Mortimer
10-18-2017, 12:29 AM
yes well
Lavrentis
10-18-2017, 12:39 AM
You do look Slavic, so yes
Sacrificed Ram
10-18-2017, 01:06 AM
Anyone could be a cossack, existed even german, british and scottish among cossacks. They were just a military division that turned into a sub-ethnicity.
Jennifer
10-18-2017, 01:11 AM
Vote is it very well or somewhat
I said very well.
Decius
10-18-2017, 01:13 AM
Anyone could be a cossack, existed even german, british and scottish among cossacks. They were just a military division that turned into a sub-ethnicity.
I meant like Ukranian and Russian cossacks like Kuban Cossacks
alnortedelsur
10-18-2017, 01:13 AM
I am not very knowledgeable about Cossack looks, but judging by the google pics you posted, I guess, yes, somewhat.
Sacrificed Ram
10-18-2017, 01:26 AM
I meant like Ukranian and Russian cossacks like Kuban Cossacks
I pass as Cossack better than you:
http://i68.tinypic.com/27x42tu.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIvXkUdP7uI
Freeroostah
10-18-2017, 01:28 AM
Yes very well, even though some of them are descendants of Turkic peoples like Khazars
Decius
10-18-2017, 01:30 AM
Yes very well, even though some of them are descendants of Turkic peoples like Khazars
So i could pass as a slavic one, ive seen some of there genetics results they get east euro, north slavic
Freeroostah
10-18-2017, 01:30 AM
Cossack look is Tatar look. Hence no.
Cossacks were formed in order to counter-attack the Tatar hordes that were pillaging the Slavic villages.
Freeroostah
10-18-2017, 01:33 AM
So i could pass as a slavic one, ive seen some of there genetics results they get east euro, north slavic
Yeah definitely. Most of them were Ukrainian peasants who had enough with the Tatar hordes pillaging their lands. Maybe thats how the Ukrainian identity was also formed (?)
Sacrificed Ram
10-18-2017, 01:52 AM
Anyone could be a cossack, much of cossacks are of Alan origin due their christian orthodoxy, but even circassians and tatars could be cossacks if they were just interested in rewards. But is said most were slavs, I don't have genetic tests.
And don't forget Cossacks live in the area of probable Urheimat of Indo-Europeans...
Proto-Shaman
10-18-2017, 02:13 AM
Cossacks were formed in order to counter-attack the Tatar hordes that were pillaging the Slavic villages.
and? does it make Cossacks non-Tatar now?
Freeroostah
10-18-2017, 04:15 AM
and? does it make Cossacks non-Tatar now?
Cossacks were the Slavic Eastern front against the Mongol Hordes. How could they be Tatars? :D
Vlatko Vukovic
10-18-2017, 05:59 AM
Cossack look is Tatar look. Hence no.
Not Kazakh but Cossack :D
n1KITA
10-18-2017, 08:02 AM
this guy is a true Russian Cossack
https://pp.userapi.com/c638131/v638131257/4f0c3/tas-8Cxai_8.jpg
Turkminator
10-18-2017, 08:11 AM
Not in this world. Kossacks were steppe-Turks, who hunted Slavs. Why do you want to imitate your Turkish Slave drivers?
Pahli
10-18-2017, 08:21 AM
Not in this world. Kossacks were steppe-Turks, who hunted Slavs. Why do you want to imitate your Turkish Slave drivers?
Wait what? Cossacks were East Slavs that drove out the subhumans and annihilated them in an orderly manner. Turks were and are still under Slavic rule :lol:
n1KITA
10-18-2017, 08:24 AM
this guy says you're infantile for Cossack! The Cossacks people are harsh !
Sacrificed Ram
10-18-2017, 01:41 PM
Cossacks were the Slavic Eastern front against the Mongol Hordes. How could they be Tatars? :D
Kipchaks were turkic-tatars that fought against mongols, were defeated and sold as slaves for egyptians as mamluks. Even Seljuks fought against mongols.
Never existed a turco-mongol brotherhood.
Hamlet
10-18-2017, 01:58 PM
Nah, Cossacks are part-Tartar
Hamlet
10-18-2017, 01:59 PM
Funnily enough the Cossacks are considered to have been of Khazar origin, pretty ironic when you think about it.
Sure, as I told you three days ago.. https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?224279-Re-Classify-me&p=4708944&viewfull=1#post4708944
Sacrificed Ram
10-18-2017, 02:41 PM
Funnily enough the Cossacks are considered to have been of Khazar origin, pretty ironic when you think about it.
And Khazars a mix of hun turkics, goth germanics, scytho-samarthian iranics, caucasian and uralics.
St. Stepinac
10-18-2017, 02:42 PM
Anyone could be a cossack, existed even german, british and scottish among cossacks. They were just a military division that turned into a sub-ethnicity.
Very true. Not a single part of Cossack territory unit ever had a homogeneous origin. Original cossacks originated from nomadic turkic tribes in South Russia - East Ukraine.
That's why some Slavic speakers in Balkans want to look like Cossacks so badly.
Hamlet
10-18-2017, 02:42 PM
And Khazars a mix of hun turkics, goth germanics, scytho-samarthian iranics, caucasian and uralics.
He doesn't look Turkic at all though, he just looks like he's from the Balkans
Sacrificed Ram
10-18-2017, 02:48 PM
Existed turkic influence in Cossacks, cossack is a turkic word, but this influence is being exagerated. They were ever most slavs.
Peterski
10-18-2017, 02:49 PM
Funnily enough the Cossacks are considered to have been of Khazar origin, pretty ironic when you think about it.
But they are not, it isjust a myth similar to Jews allegedly being of Khazar origin.
Hamlet
10-18-2017, 02:50 PM
Could I pass as a Cossack yes or no
https://imgur.com/a/l9Jtt
You can't pass at all, I don't know why so many people think you do.
http://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/kubanphoto41.jpg
These people are way too Mongoloid/Tartar, I mean look at the third person on the left! You can't pass, ever.
Sacrificed Ram
10-18-2017, 02:52 PM
But they are not, it isjust a myth similar to Jews allegedly being of Khazar origin.
And Poles from Samarthians.
Hamlet
10-18-2017, 02:52 PM
But they are not, it isjust a myth similar to Jews allegedly being of Khazar origin.
Why not, they were horsemen after all. If not Khazar, I can easily see a Steppe origin. Cossack and Kazakh(stan) are of similar origin, and Cossack originally meant something roughly the same as nomad.
St. Stepinac
10-18-2017, 02:57 PM
Cossacks do not only share the originally turkic name, many basic terms regarding cossackdom, their lifestyle, clothes, hairstyle, housing ect come from turkic languages. I don't say they were turks always and everywhere, in last centuries they've transformed to something like Russian border troops, accepting a lot of Slavic people, and being mainly Slav. Their phenomenon was very complicated, it's too simplistic to name them just a kind of Slavs.
Peterski
10-18-2017, 03:16 PM
Why not, they were horsemen after all. If not Khazar, I can easily see a Steppe origin. Cossack and Kazakh(stan) are of similar origin, and Cossack originally meant something roughly the same as nomad.
All Indo-Europeans have a Steppe origin, and Proto-Indo-Europeans were horsemen.
Hamlet
10-18-2017, 03:19 PM
All Indo-Europeans have a Steppe origin, and Proto-Indo-Europeans were horsemen.
Yes I'm obviously aware but don't try and ignore the fact that Turkic peoples moved into the Steppe.
Proto-Shaman
10-18-2017, 03:52 PM
Cossacks were the Slavic Eastern front against the Mongol Hordes. How could they be Tatars? :D
Bro, you need history lesson :cool:
Proto-Shaman
10-18-2017, 03:54 PM
Not Kazakh but Cossack :D
Only Kipchak and Oghur tribes. other Turkic tribes were not involved.
Proto-Shaman
10-18-2017, 04:19 PM
All Indo-Europeans have a Steppe origin, and Proto-Indo-Europeans were horsemen.
100% agree
https://i.imgur.com/pgaJSzA.jpg
Not in this world. Kossacks were steppe-Turks, who hunted Slavs. Why do you want to imitate your Turkish Slave drivers?
the answer is easy ---> Stockholm syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome)
Vlatko Vukovic
10-18-2017, 04:30 PM
100% agree
https://i.imgur.com/pgaJSzA.jpg
That is Dravidian man. Not indo-european origin.
http://images.indianexpress.com/2017/05/priyanka-chopra-7592.jpg
Something like that was proto-Indo european woman.
Maybe a bit, bit darker.
Tauromachos
10-18-2017, 04:38 PM
Could I pass as a Cossack yes or no
If you would receive the traditional Cossack training and get the proper Cossak dressing and
everything else a real Cossak must have then ,yes i don't see any reason why you shouldn't pass
Proto-Shaman
10-18-2017, 06:08 PM
https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-vector-three-characters-of-ukrainian-cossacks-vector-illustration-358148546.jpg
Vlatko Vukovic
10-18-2017, 06:15 PM
https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-vector-three-characters-of-ukrainian-cossacks-vector-illustration-358148546.jpg
Without this turkic eyes (middle guy) yes :D
https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-vector-three-characters-of-ukrainian-cossacks-vector-illustration-358148546.jpg
that guy in the middle is Steppe-Mongol Cossack, others are Caucasoido-Turkic Cossacks
just look at top of heads
https://78.media.tumblr.com/8932a922914a569226fca1545a038a05/tumblr_inline_ny4rjs3mdX1sxre9s_540.png
https://kundalinirising88.tumblr.com/post/133646599151/the-three-main-races
Proto-Shaman
10-18-2017, 07:27 PM
That is Dravidian man. Not indo-european origin.
since when Pashtuns are Dravidian?
Proto-Shaman
10-18-2017, 07:28 PM
the answer is easy ---> Stockholm syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome)
lol xD
Decius
10-18-2017, 07:49 PM
Funnily enough the Cossacks are considered to have been of Khazar origin, pretty ironic when you think about it.
I thought they were mainly slavs there seems to be debates about there orgins I have seen pics of Baltid and East Nordid cossacks
Decius
10-18-2017, 07:53 PM
SO are they slavic looking or turkic tatar orgin
Sacrificed Ram
10-18-2017, 08:00 PM
Existed even chinese cossacks because was very common cossacks adopt children and wives from place where they fought.
https://cdn.rbth.com/all/2017/03/30/baikal-cossacks2-b.jpg
they were originally one thing, but after (as Lyssyi says) 'mass liberations' their sons and descendants claim other things, wait 100 years and true Germans will belong to J2, L etc. haplos
n1KITA
10-18-2017, 08:03 PM
usually the Cossacks of the Ukrainian-Russian origin! based of course
Freeroostah
10-18-2017, 08:13 PM
Cossack haplogroups: Some are Turkic but most of them are Slavic
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/cossack-dna/about/results
n1KITA
10-18-2017, 08:27 PM
Kuban Cossack!
https://pp.userapi.com/c841324/v841324040/16676/w9Z60m5zsGs.jpg
Vlatko Vukovic
10-18-2017, 08:56 PM
since when Pashtuns are Dravidian?
I even don't know that he is pashtun. But he looks like he has Dravidian influence.
Vlatko Vukovic
10-18-2017, 08:57 PM
Kuban Cossack!
https://pp.userapi.com/c841324/v841324040/16676/w9Z60m5zsGs.jpg
i think he has something Tatar in him.
Sacrificed Ram
10-18-2017, 09:10 PM
And there also the full mongol Kalmyk Cossacks:
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/russia-three-cossacks-of-kalmyk-descent-wearing-uniform-probably-in-picture-id501390121
Peterski
10-21-2017, 01:16 PM
Maybe. But I guess you could also pass as Lisowczyk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsA3ItMRAGA
Vlatko Vukovic
11-02-2017, 12:03 PM
He asked for a real Russian Slavic Cossacks. Not for Kalmyk Cossacks or something other.
Proto-Shaman
11-02-2017, 12:34 PM
Real Slavic Kazakhs:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Kazakhstan_Slavic_2010_Rus.png
Vlatko Vukovic
11-02-2017, 12:38 PM
Real Slavic Kazakhs:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Kazakhstan_Slavic_2010_Rus.png
Cossacks originate from Ukraine, that mean that real Slavic Russian Cossacks could be from border with Belarussia/Ukraine. No Northern parts of Russia.
Proto-Shaman
11-02-2017, 12:40 PM
Churka
Vlatko Vukovic
11-02-2017, 12:43 PM
Churka
nope
Proto-Shaman
11-02-2017, 12:48 PM
nope
churka kazaki
Vlatko Vukovic
11-02-2017, 12:50 PM
churka kazaki
nope. nothing common with Caucasians.
Proto-Shaman
11-02-2017, 12:52 PM
nope. nothing common with Caucasians.
are you mentally ill? or are you mentally ill?
Vlatko Vukovic
11-02-2017, 12:53 PM
are you mentally ill? or are you mentally ill?
No. More believable is that turkomongol can't understand English.
Proto-Shaman
11-02-2017, 03:13 PM
No. More believable is that turkomongol can't understand English.
its ok, lets end this.
Sarmatian
11-03-2017, 10:08 AM
Edited
PM me your photos I'll tell you if you pass.
Sarmatian
11-03-2017, 10:09 AM
Cossack look is Tatar look.
Quit with your nonsense, makes you look retarded.
Sarmatian
11-03-2017, 10:10 AM
I pass as Cossack better than you:
http://i68.tinypic.com/27x42tu.jpg
No you don't pass at all.
Sarmatian
11-03-2017, 10:13 AM
Funnily enough the Cossacks are considered to have been of Khazar origin, pretty ironic when you think about it.
By idiots maybe.
As our old legends say we started from Tmutarakan, southernmost Rus principality established by Prince Svyatoslav after he wiped floor with Khazars.
Vlatko Vukovic
11-03-2017, 10:17 AM
Cossacks can pass from Western Ukrainians to "half-Tatar" Russians. Cossacks were very mixed origin army.
So this guy can pass.
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