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greasycaveman
10-21-2017, 10:11 PM
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crazyladybutterfly
10-22-2017, 07:40 PM
no . they re round and the skin looks thin

Token
10-22-2017, 07:43 PM
You have visible Finno-Ugric influence on your phenotype that can be relatively recent or ancient, when the Slavs assimilated Finno-Ugric tribes in their eastward expansion to Russia.

Sacrificed Ram
10-22-2017, 07:53 PM
With all respect, is dificult say if you had some cranial malformation or mongolid influence.

My head also has a lot of asymmetry.

Pics of parents and relatives can elucidate if it is was congenital or genetical.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 07:57 PM
Yes.
https://i.imgur.com/LX6frpI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LW59WjX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nwRnPZh.jpg

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 08:10 PM
You are boring with classification and Mongoloidism.

You have Finno-Ugric influence, not Mongoloid. And that is that.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:14 PM
You are boring with classification and Mongoloidism.

You have Finno-Ugric influence, not Mongoloid. And that is that.

The original Finno-Ugrians were Mongoloid, so the both statements are true.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 08:16 PM
The original Finno-Ugrians were Mongoloid, so the both statements are true.

I dont think that they were 100% same.

But they were similar.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:17 PM
The original Finno-Ugrians were Mongoloid, so the both statements are true.

Im not even finno ugric.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:18 PM
I have literally 6% in low confidence on AncestryDNA. I have obvious armenid/caucasus influence though, which explains the eyes.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:18 PM
You are boring with classification and Mongoloidism.

You have Finno-Ugric influence, not Mongoloid. And that is that.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=46464&page=83

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:19 PM
Im not even finno ugric.

Funny, because in this thread you wrote that you have Mordvin and Karelian ancestry :rotfl
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8149972/1/

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 08:19 PM
God there's so much idiocy in this thread.

OP has literally zero Finno-Ugric features. He is the anti-Finno Ugric. If you wanted to compare him to any Mongoloid group it would have to be Japanese (Yakonid), and they're not even fully Mongoloid.

Yakonid:


http://www.jjgirls.com/uncensored/heyzo/rika-anna/0740/rika-anna-1.jpg

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:21 PM
God there's so much idiocy in this thread.

OP has literally zero Finno-Ugric features.

You ought to see this thread too :picard1: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?225000-Veslan-amp-Maintenance-are-trolls&p=4725090#post4725090

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:21 PM
God there's so much idiocy in this thread.

OP has literally zero Finno-Ugric features.

Mongoloid eyefold is a Finno-Ugric feature in him.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:21 PM
God there's so much idiocy in this thread.

OP has literally zero Finno-Ugric features.

You ought to see this thread too :picard1: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?225000-Veslan-amp-Maintenance-are-trolls&p=4725090#post4725090

Xacal
10-22-2017, 08:23 PM
Turanid vibe

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 08:23 PM
Mongoloid eyefold is a Finno-Ugric feature in him.

That is not a Finno Ugric feature or even a Mongoloid-exclusive feature and he doesn't even have a fold like them.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:23 PM
Mongoloid eyefold is a Finno-Ugric feature in him.

You dont even know what a mongolian eyefold is!!!! Dumb as fuck. 69014

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:24 PM
That is not a Finno Ugric feature or even a Mongoloid-exclusive feature and he doesn't even have a fold like them.

He still has a clearly non-Caucasoid fold, the original Finno-Ugrics were Mongoloid, and he is at least 6% genetically Finno-Ugric.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 08:24 PM
Turanid vibe

ROFL TURANID.


He is the archnemesis of Turanids.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:25 PM
Funny, because in this thread you wrote that you have Mordvin and Karelian ancestry :rotfl
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8149972/1/

Look at the demographics of karelia and mordovia. And I said my grandmothers sister moved there to mordovia (NOT BORN THERE). And my grand fathers brother got token or adopted with in laws to karelia not real family.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:26 PM
You dont even know what a mongolian eyefold is!!!! Dumb as fuck. 69014
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69014&d=1508703807
https://i.imgur.com/LX6frpI.jpg

Your eyes are still more similiar to this than to any real Caucasoid's eyes.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 08:27 PM
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=46464&page=83

When you ask for classification, expect that all people have their opinion.

Otherwise, you can just say: "Classify me with Pontid, please" or "Classify me with West Baltid, please" or "Classify me with Nordid, please".

Don't send links from another persons, no one is interested.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:27 PM
Look at the demographics of karelia and mordovia. And I said my grandmothers sister moved there to mordovia (NOT BORN THERE). And my grand fathers brother got token or adopted with in laws to karelia not real family.

No, you wrote:

"Could I pass as mordvin, that is what I am."

EDIT: Also "But I mostly look like my mom who is mordvin and has some karelian."

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8149972/1/

Hahaha, pathetic liar :rotfl

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:28 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69014&d=1508703807
https://i.imgur.com/LX6frpI.jpg

Your eyes are still more similiar to this than to any real Caucasoid's eyes.

Oh ok cherry pick a picture of me in the day time its kind of hard to have your eyes all the way open.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 08:29 PM
He still has a clearly non-Caucasoid fold, the original Finno-Ugrics were Mongoloid, and he is at least 6% genetically Finno-Ugric.

Ne he does not. You have no idea what an epicanthal fold is.


The Finno Ugrics were never fully Mongoloid, and NEVER the beak nosed, inflated maxillae, long faced Mongoloids this guy could even be remotely compared to.

Central Asian admixture is often masked as Finno Ugric in Eastern Europeans/West Asians, because they got it from mixed Scyths and Sarmatians who have shown a superficial genetic resemblance to North Asians. The more likely explanationnis that he simply has admixture from Iranics who got the mixture in Central Asia and migrated west and assimilated as Slavs.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:29 PM
No, you wrote:

"Could I pass as mordvin, that is what I am."

EDIT: Also "But I mostly look like my mom who is mordvin and has some karelian."

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8149972/1/

Hahaha, pathetic liar :rotfl

Honestly I said that because I wanted to see if I could pass as them.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:30 PM
Oh ok cherry pick a picture of me in the day time its kind of hard to have your eyes all the way open.

It is also hard to hide Mongoloid influence, I see. :rotfl2

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 08:31 PM
I reiterate, OP doesn't have a fold. Look at the picture of the Asian eye which is a complete fold. OP doesn't have a full fold. Even most full Asians lack a fold.


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/45/67/d94567aa47bc65e8165f03fd3face19f.jpg

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:31 PM
It is also hard to hide Mongoloid influence, I see. :rotfl2

Ok it is official YOU ARE AUTISTIC.

Maintenance
10-22-2017, 08:33 PM
No, you wrote:

"Could I pass as mordvin, that is what I am."

EDIT: Also "But I mostly look like my mom who is mordvin and has some karelian."

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8149972/1/

Hahaha, pathetic liar :rotfl

LOL "you dont look like roy williams you look like Rovshan Sultanbekov"

I see turk and uzbek in the thread aswell as asiatic eyes.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:34 PM
When you ask for classification, expect that all people have their opinion.

Otherwise, you can just say: "Classify me with Pontid, please" or "Classify me with West Baltid, please" or "Classify me with Nordid, please".

Don't send links from another persons, no one is interested.

My classifications are in there. Obviously like any thread. You have to go to the most recent thread :picard1:

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 08:34 PM
He ask for opinion about mongoloid eyes.

And when somebody says that he has Finno-Ugric eye features, he says that this person is autistic.

You just want European classifications. And you don't have all of them.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:34 PM
LOL "you dont look like roy williams you look like Rovshan Sultanbekov"

I see turk and uzbek in the thread aswell as asiatic eyes.

Ok think what you want you can't fix stupid.

Maintenance
10-22-2017, 08:36 PM
Ok think what you want you can't fix stupid.

Think what i want?!
Thats what people wrote thats facts nothing else.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:36 PM
He ask for opinion about mongoloid eyes.

And when somebody says that he has Finno-Ugric eye features, he says that this person is autistic.

You just want European classifications. And you don't have all of them.

When someone tries to tell you, that you have mongoloid eyes, and a user that has been on here for a while and knows a lot disproves it. It really shows the lack of knowledge of anthropology.

Hudayar
10-22-2017, 08:36 PM
:picard2:

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:37 PM
Ne he does not. You have no idea what an epicanthal fold is.


The Finno Ugrics were never fully Mongoloid, and NEVER the beak nosed, inflated maxillae, long faced Mongoloids this guy could even be remotely compared to.

Central Asian admixture is often masked as Finno Ugric in Eastern Europeans/West Asians, because they got it from mixed Scyths and Sarmatians who have shown a superficial genetic resemblance to North Asians. The more likely explanationnis that he simply has admixture from Iranics who got the mixture in Central Asia and migrated west and assimilated as Slavs.

I didn't write that he has particularly "epicanthic fold", I wrote that he has non-Caucasoid fold. And you can't deny it.

The original Finno-Ugrians were at least predominantly Mongoloid, the least admixed Finno-Ugrians of today look like this:
https://i2.wp.com/valueofthemoment.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/05-logo.jpg?resize=1024%2C680
https://i2.wp.com/valueofthemoment.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/17-logo.jpg?resize=1024%2C680
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/B95JTY/a-representative-of-the-khanty-people-B95JTY.jpg

Scytho-Sarmatians, even if they were originally East/Iranian Nordoids and Eastern Cro-Magnon types, also had some Mongoloid influence, which was only growing higher and higher, until they got fully absorbed by the Turkics.
https://i.imgur.com/rat7Wtz.jpg

But I don't get why do you claim he has Scytho-Sarmatian blood, when he himself said that he has Mordvin and Karelian blood.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:37 PM
Think what i want?!
Thats what people wrote thats facts nothing else.

Ok and people also wrote this too http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=46464&page=83 & dont forget this one too http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8149684/1/#new

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:38 PM
Honestly I said that because I wanted to see if I could pass as them.

Keep lying, child. :rotfl:

zhaoyun
10-22-2017, 08:39 PM
Yeah, you're Mongol

Maintenance
10-22-2017, 08:39 PM
Ok and people also wrote this too http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=46464&page=83 & dont forget this one too http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8149684/1/#new

I commented on the thread i dont care about your hundreds of threads, they probably would call you nordid if you made one more thread, youre just as annoying as your zits on your face.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:40 PM
I didn't write that he has particularly "epicanthic fold", I wrote that he has non-Caucasoid fold. And you can't deny it.

The original Finno-Ugrians were at least predominantly Mongoloid, the least admixed Finno-Ugrians of today look like this:
https://i2.wp.com/valueofthemoment.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/05-logo.jpg?resize=1024%2C680
https://i2.wp.com/valueofthemoment.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/17-logo.jpg?resize=1024%2C680
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/B95JTY/a-representative-of-the-khanty-people-B95JTY.jpg

Scytho-Sarmatians, even if they were originally East/Iranian Nordoids and Eastern Cro-Magnon types, also had some Mongoloid influence, which was only growing higher and higher, until they got fully absorbed by the Turkics.
https://i.imgur.com/rat7Wtz.jpg

But I don't get why do you claim he has Scytho-Sarmatian blood, when he himself said that he has Mordvin and Karelian blood.



I made that up so maybe he would tell me if I fit there????!!! There is a possible chance because my moms sister moved there. But I was just testing out if I would, just like explorer2017 wore contacts to mask his eye color and dyed his hair to see if he could pass in eastern europe.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 08:40 PM
:picard2:

Hudayar. Please classify his eyes. You are a Turk and you know the carachteristics of Asian influence, i think..

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:41 PM
I commented on the thread i dont care about your hundreds of threads, they probably would call you nordid if you made one more thread, youre just as annoying as your zits on your face.


I made one classification thread. Every one posts their classifications on that one thread.

Hudayar
10-22-2017, 08:41 PM
Hudayar. Please classify his eyes. You are a Turk and you know the carachteristics of Asian influence, i think..

yes he has considerable asiatic influence around eyes

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:42 PM
I made that up so maybe he would tell me if I fit there????!!! There is a possible chance because my moms sister moved there. But I was just testing out if I would, just like explorer2017 wore contacts to mask his eye color and dyed his hair to see if he could pass in eastern europe.

Yea, you have nice imagination kid. But even your own DNA tests screams "6% Finland", so you can't lie very succesfully.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:42 PM
ROFL TURANID.


He is the archnemesis of Turanids.



What would you classify me as?

Maintenance
10-22-2017, 08:42 PM
I made one classification thread. Every one posts their classifications on that one thread.

I have seen like 20 on this forum alone and you have posted several on other sites.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:43 PM
Yea, you have nice imagination kid. But even your own DNA tests screams "6% Finland", so you can't lie very succesfully.

Ok well so does stear's

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:44 PM
Ok well so does stear's

It's not shocking, because he is a Hungarian, and Hungarians are, at least originally, Finno-Ugric people.

Maintenance
10-22-2017, 08:44 PM
Ok well so does stear's

But he doesnt have asian looking eyes like you, i tease him cause of his results but thats just empty words.
You look like fucking ling lee hong

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 08:45 PM
Ok well so does stear's

Stears does not have origin from territory of Asia (except Caucasus).

He just have 1.6% Siberian on the calculator.

You can't compare yourself with Stears. 2 different civilisations.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:47 PM
It's not shocking, because he is a Hungarian, and Hungarians are, at least originally, Finno-Ugric people.

Hungarians are clustered with eastern europeans in ancestryDNA. Only karelians and Finns are under "finish and northwest russians" Which I look nothing alike. I also have 9%scandinavian, does that make me scandinavian? And if I was mordvin wouldn't it say that in gedmatch. I haven't even got one thing that said mordvin from even the lowest to 0 or farthest from 0.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 08:47 PM
I didn't write that he has particularly "epicanthic fold", I wrote that he has non-Caucasoid fold. And you can't deny it.


Yes, it is factual, a median fold is not a non-Caucasian trait.




Scytho-Sarmatians, even if they were originally East/Iranian Nordoids and Eastern Cro-Magnon types, also had some Mongoloid influence, which was only growing higher and higher, until they got fully absorbed by the Turkics.


Wrong, neither Scythians nor Sarmatians were ever absorbed by Turkics. They had that East Asian admixture long before the death of Christ:




More recent studies have been able to type for specific mtDNA lineages. For example, a 2004 study studied the HV1 sequence obtained from a male "Scytho-Siberian" at the Kizil site in the Altai Republic. It belonged to the N1a maternal lineage, a geographically "west Eurasian lineage."[126] Another study by the same team, again from two Scytho-Siberian skeletons found in the Altai Republic, were phenotypically males "of mixed Euro-Mongoloid origin". One of the individuals was found to carry the F2a maternal lineage, and the other the D lineage, both of which are characteristic of "East Eurasian" populations.[127]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15022363



Abstract
We extracted DNA from two skeletons belonging to the Sytho-Siberian population, which were excavated from the Seb˙stei site (dating back 2,500 years) in the Altai Republic (Central Asia). Ancient DNA was analyzed by autosomal short tandem repeats (STRs) and by the sequencing of the hypervariable region 1 (HV1) of the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) control region. The results showed that these two skeletons were not close relatives. Moreover, their haplogroups were characteristic of Asian populations. Comparison with the haplogroup of 3,523 Asian and American individuals linked one skeleton with a putative ancestral paleo-Asiatic population and the other with Chinese populations. It appears that the genetic study of ancient populations of Central Asia brings important elements to the understanding of human population movements in Asia.



They were absorbed by the Slavs, however.


But I don't get why do you claim he has Scytho-Sarmatian blood, when he himself said that he has Mordvin and Karelian blood.


He lied about being Mordvin and Karelian, it is obvious he looks nothing like them.

All Russians have Scytho-Siberian admixture.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:47 PM
Stears does not have origin from territory of Asia (except Caucasus).

He just have 1.6% Siberian on the calculator.

You can't compare yourself with Stears. 2 different civilisations.

Well i dont either I dont know what you are trying to say. I have 1% caucasus which is non european.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:49 PM
Yes, it is factual, a median fold is not a non-Caucasian trait.



[quote]Scytho-Sarmatians, even if they were originally East/Iranian Nordoids and Eastern Cro-Magnon types, also had some Mongoloid influence, which was only growing higher and higher, until they got fully absorbed by the Turkics.
https://i.imgur.com/rat7Wtz.jpg


Wrong, neither Scythians nor Sarmatians were ever absorbed by Turks. They had that East Asian admixture long before the death of Christ:





https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15022363







He lied about being Mordvin and Karelian, it is obvious he looks nothing like them.

All Russians have Scytho-Siberian admixture.


Almost all russians have some Finnish dna anyways. I am russian I am proud nor do I want to look nordic like some nordicist.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 08:49 PM
Hungarians are clustered with eastern europeans in ancestryDNA. Only karelians and Finns are under "finish and northwest russians" Which I look nothing alike. I also have 9%scandinavian, does that make me scandinavian? And if I was mordvin wouldn't it say that in gedmatch. I haven't even got one thing that said mordvin from even the lowest to 0 or farthest from 0.

Finns are from Scandinavia. But they are still Finno-Ugric, Asian origin peoples.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:50 PM
Yes, it is factual, a median fold is not a non-Caucasian trait.



[quote]Scytho-Sarmatians, even if they were originally East/Iranian Nordoids and Eastern Cro-Magnon types, also had some Mongoloid influence, which was only growing higher and higher, until they got fully absorbed by the Turkics.
https://i.imgur.com/rat7Wtz.jpg


Wrong, neither Scythians nor Sarmatians were ever absorbed by Turks. They had that East Asian admixture long before the death of Christ:





https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15022363







He lied about being Mordvin and Karelian, it is obvious he looks nothing like them.

All Russians have Scytho-Siberian admixture.

Median fold is caused by the influence of Mongoloids.

You misunderstood me, I wrote that Scytho-Sarmatians had Mongoloid influence before they got fully absorbed by Mongoloid Turkic tribes too. One of the man found in Proto-Indo-Iranian Andronovo had even Mongoloid C3 y-DNA.

Also he looks definitely like a Finno-Ugrian, than a pure Slavic Russian.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 08:50 PM
[QUOTE=Grab the Gauge;4725279]Yes, it is factual, a median fold is not a non-Caucasian trait.






Almost all russians have some Finnish dna anyways. I am russian I am proud nor do I want to look nordic like some nordicist.

You can be Russian, but can't be a pure Russian.

You already said that your mother-line is Mordivns. Finno-Ugric peoples.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 08:51 PM
[QUOTE=Grab the Gauge;4725279]Yes, it is factual, a median fold is not a non-Caucasian trait.





Median fold is caused by the influence of Mongoloids.

You misunderstood me, I wrote that Scytho-Sarmatians had Mongoloid influence before they got fully absorbed by Mongoloid Turkic tribes too. One of the man found in Proto-Indo-Iranian Andronovo had even Mongoloid C3 y-DNA.

One part of Sarmatians were assimilated in Turks. Other part is assimilated in Slavs.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 08:53 PM
[QUOTE=Veslan;4725297]

One part of Sarmatians were assimilated in Turks. Other part is assimilated in Slavs.

I know. But their original steppe homeland was taken by the Turkic tribes like Huns, Avars, Gokturks. This is why I wrote they got "absorbed by Turkics".

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 08:55 PM
Median fold isn't caused by Mongoloid influence, it is present even in South African aboriginals. This guy looks nothing like a Finno Ugric, the pictures of Finno Ugrics posted so far show diametrically opposite features of this guy. He could pass for mixed Asian (not because of eyes) but not with Finno Ugric.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:55 PM
[QUOTE=Ivanslav;4725290]

You can be Russian, but can't be a pure Russian.

You already said that your mother-line is Mordivns. Finno-Ugric peoples.

What is pure russian? If Russians have absorbed Iranians, Scythians, Scandinavians, Finnish people. And dont make me mention kievan rus. How many tribes that were non slavic, that have been slavicized? The scythian ancestry is not recent ancestry. Probably not in the last thousand years. :picard2:

ЛыSSый
10-22-2017, 08:56 PM
boy, make pirsing here

http://i057.radikal.ru/1710/03/470baa386b13t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/o163htbc0s6tr)

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 08:58 PM
boy, make pirsing here

http://i057.radikal.ru/1710/03/470baa386b13t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/o163htbc0s6tr)

I slept on my ear when I was a child. Why do you ridicule me for that?

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 08:59 PM
[QUOTE=Vlatko Vukovic;4725300]

I know. But their original steppe homeland was taken by the Turkic tribes like Huns, Avars, Gokturks. This is why I wrote they got "absorbed by Turkics".

These tribes weren't even Mongoloid or fully Mongoloid and the Sarmatian-Scythians disappeared before this happened, absorbed by Slavs not Turkics.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 08:59 PM
[QUOTE=Vlatko Vukovic;4725296]

What is pure russian? If Russians have absorbed Iranians, Scythians, Scandinavians, Finnish people. And dont make me mention kievan rus. How many tribes that were non slavic, that have been slavicized? The scythian ancestry is not recent ancestry. Probably not in the last thousand years. :picard2:

http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/1149845/580full-elena-dementieva.jpg

Elena Dementieva - Moscow

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qbi_5dRGRYM/WMXDBtlMLZI/AAAAAAAAnjc/cOXHILGoj9wURl6fHOmy3MpBDHX6iCv9ACLcB/s1600/Victoria-Lopyreva.jpg

Victoria Lopyreva

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aNCbSmA-P5U/maxresdefault.jpg

Pure Russian guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNCbSmA-P5U

This guy is classic example of pure European Russian (without Asian mixing).

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:00 PM
[QUOTE=Veslan;4725314]

These tribes weren't even Mongoloid or fully Mongoloid and the Sarmatian-Scythians disappeared before this happened, absorbed by Slavs not Turkics.

Turks claim that large part of Scythians are ancestors of today's Turks.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 09:01 PM
Median fold isn't caused by Mongoloid influence, it is present even in South African aboriginals. This guy looks nothing like a Finno Ugric, the pictures of Finno Ugrics posted so far show diametrically opposite features of this guy. He could pass for mixed Asian (not because of eyes) but not with Finno Ugric.

Khoisan people indeed have Median folds, and this is why many anthropologists believe them to be Proto-Mongoloid, or at least, transistional Negroid-to-Mongoloid. It doesn't change a fact that in Eastern Europe median fold is definitely of Finnic and Turkic origin.

He is mixed. His father is an Anglo American from what I remember, and you can see it by looking at his DNA test. But his mother is Karelo-Mordvin Uralid, this is why he has inherited median fold.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68130&d=1506556314

Veslan
10-22-2017, 09:03 PM
[QUOTE=Grab the Gauge;4725333]

Turks claim that large part of Scythians are ancestors of today's Turks.

This is quite true, assimilated Scythians, who adopted foreign tongue and racemixed, are their ancestors as well as Mongoloids. It doesn't change the fact that the original Scythians were Nordid Indo-Europeans, nor does it change the fact that the original Turkics were Mongoloid.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:06 PM
Not a single anthropologist believes Khoi San to be Proto-Mongoloid, they are also genetically the most distant from Mongoloids . You are essentially taking the piss at this point and, along with Vlatko Vukovic, who looks infinitely more Finno Ugric than this kid, a case for your own extermination.

Median fold is totally worthless for ancestry. Even Brits have it.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:07 PM
[QUOTE=Vlatko Vukovic;4725335]
nor does it change the fact that the original Turkics were Mongoloid.

That is not a fact.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:08 PM
Not a single anthropologist believes Khoi San to be Proto-Mongoloid, they are also genetically the most distant from Mongoloids . You are essentially taking the piss at this point and, along with Vlatko Vukovic, who looks infinitely more Finno Ugric than this kid, a case for your own extermination.

Median fold is totally worthless for ancestry. Even Brits have it.

I look more Finno-Ugric xD

That is first time i heard this, but ok. Your opinion.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:10 PM
Khoisan people indeed have Median folds, and this is why many anthropologists believe them to be Proto-Mongoloid, or at least, transistional Negroid-to-Mongoloid. It doesn't change a fact that in Eastern Europe median fold is definitely of Finnic and Turkic origin.

He is mixed. His father is an Anglo American from what I remember, and you can see it by looking at his DNA test. But his mother is Karelo-Mordvin Uralid, this is why he has inherited median fold.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68130&d=1506556314

All this test confirms is that he is predominantly Caucasian and that his mother isn't Uralid. Which makes since as he is as far removed from Uralid as it gets. Central Asiatic Mongoloid-Caucasoid hybrids, he faintly resembles.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:10 PM
[QUOTE=Vlatko Vukovic;4725335]

This is quite true, assimilated Scythians, who adopted foreign tongue and racemixed, are their ancestors as well as Mongoloids. It doesn't change the fact that the original Scythians were Nordid Indo-Europeans, nor does it change the fact that the original Turkics were Mongoloid.

Original Turks were Caucasoid people. But all of them are mixed with Mongolians.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:13 PM
Not a single anthropologist believes Khoi San to be Proto-Mongoloid, they are also genetically the most distant from Mongoloids . You are essentially taking the piss at this point and, along with Vlatko Vukovic, who looks infinitely more Finno Ugric than this kid, a case for your own extermination.

Median fold is totally worthless for ancestry. Even Brits have it.

Brits have also reddish-white skin. Common for Mongols.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:13 PM
I look more Finno-Ugric xD

That is first time i heard this, but ok. Your opinion.

My correct opinion. You have those angular almond eyes, short small fleshy nose, long philtrum, block headed look of Finno Ugrics.

He has a long narrow beak nose, non-primitive eyes, short philtrum, oval face. Like Central Asian Iranic-Turkics or even Japanese.


LMFAO, Greeks and Bosniaks get their souls reaped in this thread.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 09:14 PM
Not a single anthropologist believes Khoi San to be Proto-Mongoloid, they are also genetically the most distant from Mongoloids . You are essentially taking the piss at this point and, along with Vlatko Vukovic, who looks infinitely more Finno Ugric than this kid, a case for your own extermination.

Median fold is totally worthless for ancestry. Even Brits have it.

Unfortunetaly mlukas's portal antropologia-fizyczna.pl is offline, I found this information somewhere there.

They might have had developed median folds independently, I don't know much about non-eurasian people.

Some Brits have median folds because of Scandinavian Lappish (so Finno-Ugrian) admixture.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 09:15 PM
My correct opinion. You have those angular almond eyes, short small nose, long philtrum, block headed look of Finno Ugrics.

He has a long beak nose, non-primitive eyes, short philtrum, oval face. Like Central Asian Iranic-Turkics or even Japanese.


LMFAO, Greeks and Bosniaks get their souls reaped in this thread.

So you say that he looks more Turkic and Japanese than Finno-Ugric? You are not helping him to feel 100% Caucasoid very well.

Also he is not pure Finno-Ugrian, he is mixed. This is why he has more "progressive" features, while still having median fold.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:15 PM
My correct opinion. You have those angular almond eyes, short small nose, long philtrum, block headed look of Finno Ugrics.

He has a long beak nose, non-primitive eyes, short philtrum, oval face. Like Central Asian Iranic-Turkics or even Japanese.


LMFAO, Greeks and Bosniaks get their souls reaped in this thread.

You are just some Finno-Ugric troll, just like this guy.

This guy could be alien in France for example. I would be a common phenotype.

Also, i am dolicocephalic as fuck. Not like Finno-Ugrics who are brachycephalic. Your opinions have nothing to do with scholar proofs.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:18 PM
Unfortunetaly mlukas's portal antropologia-fizyczna.pl is offline, I found this information somewhere there.

They might have had developed median folds independently, I don't know much about non-eurasian people.

Some Brits have median folds because of Scandinavian Lappish (so Finno-Ugrian) admixture.

Forget anthropology, genetics already proved it. The San aren't proto-Mongols or anything of the sort.

San are the oldest group of modern humanity and all modern humans descend from them. If it is present on San, it originated with them.


Brits have no Lappish admixture, you have no evidence whatsoever to support that conclusion.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 09:21 PM
Forget anthropology, genetics already proved it. The San aren't proto-Mongols or anything of the sort.

San are the oldest group of modern humanity and all modern humans descend from them. If it is present on San, it originated with them.


Brits have no Lappish admixture, you have no evidence whatsoever to support that conclusion.

Didn't according to modern science Homo Sapiens evolve in Ethiopia? That's far from original Khoisan area.

Brits have North Scandinavian admixture because of Viking settlement, and Vikings had minor Lappid admixture. Median fold is quite rare in Britain, but it can be noticed in some British because of that.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:21 PM
You are just some Finno-Ugric troll, just like this guy.

This guy could be alien in France for example. I would be a common phenotype.

Also, i am dolicocephalic as fuck. Not like Finno-Ugrics who are brachycephalic. Your opinions have nothing to do with scholar proofs.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, the Huns were dolicocephalic as were many Turks and even Eskimos, and some Finno Ugrics as well. Cephalic index does not make a lick of difference boy, you are Ugric admixed.

You don't look common in France at all with your unrefined, Play-Dough features and block skull. Actually, OP looks more French.


I love how this website is like a minefield for Greeks and Bosniaks/Serbs/Croatians to get killed in. Just like real life, everybody is always fucking with you people and sending your blood pressure through the roof. You are never allowed to relax. EVERYBODY bullies the Greek and Bosnian boys. Everybody.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:22 PM
Forget anthropology, genetics already proved it. The San aren't proto-Mongols or anything of the sort.

San are the oldest group of modern humanity and all modern humans descend from them. If it is present on San, it originated with them.


Brits have no Lappish admixture, you have no evidence whatsoever to support that conclusion.

Britts have a lot reddish-white skin.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Dropkick_Murphys_Bluesfest.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/YuanEmperorAlbumGenghisPortrait.jpg

Genghis Khan

Deal with the reallity.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:23 PM
Didn't according to modern science Homo Sapiens evolve in Ethiopia? That's far from original Khoisan area.

Brits have North Scandinavian admixture because of Viking settlement, and Vikings had minor Lappid admixture. Median fold is quite rare in Britain, but it can be noticed in some British because of that.

No it isn't and no they don't.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:24 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, the Huns were dolicocephalic as were many Turks and even Eskimos, and some Finno Ugrics as well. Cephalic index does not make a lick of difference boy, you are Ugric admixed.

You don't loom common in Frane at all with your unrefined, Play-Dough features and block skull. Actually, OP looks more French.


I love how this website is like a minefield for Greeks and Bosniaks/Serbs/Croatians to get killed in. Just like real life, everybody is always fucking with you people and sending your blood pressure through the roof. You are never allowed to relax. EVERYBODY bullies the Greek and Bosnian boys. Everybody.

You are just envy of me becouse you are some Asian subhuman actually. Send us your photos :D :D

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:28 PM
So you say that he looks more Turkic and Japanese than Finno-Ugric? You are not helping him to feel 100% Caucasoid very well.

Also he is not pure Finno-Ugrian, he is mixed. This is why he has more "progressive" features, while still having median fold.

No, his facial features and nose can be said to be Mongoloid influenced. The problem is that you assume this is Finno-Ugric admixture (because of the meaningless 6% "Finno Ugric" DNA) when he has nothing in common with Finno Ugrics and even looks more classically East Asian than them, and that a median fold is his Asian trait, when it isn't.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:28 PM
You are just envy of me becouse you are some Asian subhuman actually. Send us your photos :D :D

Asians are more human than you subhuman Bosnians, with your low IQ and hideously ugly faces. 99% of people would rather be Asian than a Bosnian. I am a 100% White man of prestigious British Isles and Norman heritage. I would be proud to be a part Asian or full Asian man. I would elctrocute myself on the train tracks if I were a Bosnian.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:30 PM
Asians are more human than you subhuman South Slavs, with your low IQ and hideously ugly faces. 99% of people would rather be Asian than a South Slav. I am a 100% White man of prestigious British Isles and Norman heritage.

We invented alternate current.

You are envy on our native superiority toward you, some Asian troll.

If we are ugly, then send us some your photos? (If you are not afraid of your asian looking).

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:36 PM
Dirty American peasant escaped. :D

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:38 PM
I changed it to "Bosnian" since I knew you would name-drop Tesla. Asians are going to take over your country because you are too dumb to to make it work. I am a 100% White Western European.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:42 PM
I changed it to "Bosnian" since I knew you would name-drop Tesla. Asians are going to take over your country because you are too dumb to to make it work. I am a 100% White Western European.

Yes. You change it becouse you are too dumb to know that Tesla was actually South Slav. But i reminded you. And you changed it.

That is the proof that you are just western peasant without knowledge.

Also, we are similar with Serbs (by genetics and phenotypes). If you don't believe me, then ask them personally.

But you are also dumb to understand it. Deal with your reallity.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 09:45 PM
No, his facial features and nose can be said to be Mongoloid influenced. The problem is that you assume this is Finno-Ugric admixture (because of the meaningless 6% "Finno Ugric" DNA) when he has nothing in common with Finno Ugrics and even looks more classically East Asian than them, and that a median fold is his Asian trait, when it isn't.

If he doesn't have any other East Asian influence than Finno-Ugric, then we can be sure that his facial features, median fold and nose, are the result of the 6% of his DNA. Remember that genetics are not always very correlated to phenotype, because phenotypical genes can recombine and re-emerge.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:47 PM
If he doesn't have any other East Asian influence than Finno-Ugric, then we can be sure that his facial features, median fold and nose, are the result of the 6% of his DNA. Remember that genetics are not always very correlated to phenotype, because phenotypical genes can recombine and re-emerge.

Why explain something to Nordicist uneducated Americano? They are known for their dumbness in whole world.

I will just quote Donald Trump:

"Belgium is a beautiful town". Their dumbness is many time proven.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 09:49 PM
Why explain something to Nordicist uneducated Americano? They are known for their dumbness in whole world.

I will just quote Donald Trump:

"Belgium is a beautiful town". Their dumbness is many time proven.

Because in this way, I change this thread from an another stupid ivanslav "PLZ CLASSIFY ME AS HWITE" shitpost to an interesting discussion.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:51 PM
Because in this way, I change this thread from an another stupid ivanslav "PLZ CLASSIFY ME AS HWITE" shitpost to an interesting discussion.

But this Americano are speaking bullshits. That is proven many times.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:52 PM
If he doesn't have any other East Asian influence than Finno-Ugric, then we can be sure that his facial features, median fold and nose, are the result of the 6% of his DNA. Remember that genetics are not always very correlated to phenotype, because phenotypical genes can recombine and re-emerge.

No you can't, because no Finno Ugric has those facial features. Finno-Ugric mixes look like Vlatko over here. They come from Russian DNA. The Russian DNA actually contains East Asian. Finno Ugric is North Asian, tard.

Ülev
10-22-2017, 09:53 PM
Yes. You change it becouse you are too dumb to know that Tesla was actually South Slav. But i reminded you. And you changed it.

That is the proof that you are just western peasant without knowledge.

Also, we are similar with Serbs (by genetics and phenotypes). If you don't believe me, then ask them personally.

But you are also dumb to understand it. Deal with your reallity.

they are (Northern Europeans) the same R1 stock, they can play quarrels but overall --> divide and conquer / divide et impera
Iraq, Syria.... Yugoslavia

they have it in their veins ---> conquer, conquer, conquer ---> R1b (l21, u106) North America, R1b (df 27, u156) South America, R1a - entire north Asia and east Europe

join them or die, lol

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:53 PM
Yes. You change it becouse you are too dumb to know that Tesla was actually South Slav. But i reminded you. And you changed it.

That is the proof that you are just western peasant without knowledge.

Also, we are similar with Serbs (by genetics and phenotypes). If you don't believe me, then ask them personally.

But you are also dumb to understand it. Deal with your reallity.

Yet he was not Bosnian, and he was not a South Slav, either.


Tesla was Albanian.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 09:54 PM
No you can't, because no Finno Ugric has those facial features. Finno-Ugric mixes look like Vlatko over here. They come from Russian DNA. The Russian DNA actually contains East Asian. Finno Ugric is North Asian, tard.

N1c haplogroup is clearly of East Asian origin, and he has Finno ugric facial features in as you have said, mongoloid influence face and nose structure and the median fold.

And no, pure Russian DNA doesn't contain East Asian, if he had influence from for an example Mongols or Tatars, he would score some Mongol or Tatar DNA. But he scored Finnic.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:55 PM
Finno-Ugric mixes look like Vlatko over here.

:picard1:


They come from Russian DNA

Russian DNA mostly contains R1a (haplogroup which have nothing with proto-Finno Ugrics.

Again bullshit.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 09:57 PM
Why explain something to Nordicist uneducated Americano? They are known for their dumbness in whole world.

I will just quote Donald Trump:

"Belgium is a beautiful town". Their dumbness is many time proven.

Belgium is a beautiful town. Just fucking accept that, it's good enough. The world is not obligated to know all about these small countries out there that don't have any right to exist in the first place. We have all these tiny little countries out there because all these little people think they get to break away and have their own little place. There should be four countries in the world: Germany, Russia, China, USA.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 09:57 PM
Tesla was Albanian.

In what way?

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:57 PM
Tesla was Albanian.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAH

Nice joke!

Nikola Tesla: "I am proud of my Croatian homeland and my Serbian roots"

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 09:58 PM
N1c haplogroup is clearly of East Asian origin, and he has Finno ugric facial features in as you have said, mongoloid influence face and nose structure and the median fold.

And no, pure Russian DNA doesn't contain East Asian, if he had influence from for an example Mongols or Tatars, he would score some Mongol or Tatar DNA. But he scored Finnic.

You Polak piece of shit, it has been proven over and over and that Russian are Tatar and Mongol offspring. They have no Finno-Ugric DNA at all. You fucking Polak shithead.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 09:59 PM
Belgium is a beautiful town. Just fucking accept that, it's goon enough. The world is not obligated to know all about these small countries out there that don't have any right to exist in the first place. We have all these tiny little countries out there because all these little people think they get to break away and have their own little place. There should be four countries in the world: Germany, Russia, China, USA. Four for every side of the planet. www.timecube.com

Average conceited Americano.

Live in his own world.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 09:59 PM
You Polak piece of shit, it has been proven over and over and that Russian are Tatar and Mongol offspring. They have no Finno-Ugric DNA at all. You fucking Polak shithead.

:picard2:

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:00 PM
You Polak piece of shit, it has been proven over and over and that Russian are Tatar and Mongol offspring. They have no Finno-Ugric DNA at all. You fucking Polak shithead.

Tatar ? Mongol?

That is your Finnish offspring.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:00 PM
:picard1:



Russian DNA mostly contains R1a (haplogroup which have nothing with proto-Finno Ugrics.

Again bullshit.

It comes from autosomal DNA and I said East Asian not Finno-Ugric, tard. Drop the fucking obsession with Finno Ugrics already.

Ülev
10-22-2017, 10:00 PM
:picard1:



Russian DNA mostly contains R1a (haplogroup which have nothing with proto-Finno Ugrics.

Again bullshit.

THE STORY OF TWO NORTHWARD MIGRATIONS - ORIGINS OF FINNO - PERMIC AND BALTO - SLAVIC LANGUAGES IN NORTHEAST EUROPE, BASED ON HUMAN Y - CHROMOSOME HAPLOGROUPS

http://eujournal.org/index.php/esj/article/viewFile/4182/4018

in short - R1a M558 as Permic people with agglutinative (Ugric) language, only R1a M458 already mixed with I2a1 spoke IE language

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 10:01 PM
Tesla was Albanian.
I too am a fan of high fantasy.

Porn Master
10-22-2017, 10:01 PM
You Polak piece of shit, it has been proven over and over and that Russian are Tatar and Mongol offspring. They have no Finno-Ugric DNA at all. You fucking Polak shithead.




Yeah toilets in London are dirty, someone has to clean them up

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:01 PM
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAH

Nice joke!

Nikola Tesla: "I am proud of my Croatian homeland and my Serbian roots"

Tesla never said that. On the other hand, he was proud to wear an Albanian traditional suit as a young man.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 10:02 PM
Tatar ? Mongol?

That is your Finnish offspring.

This finn is butthurt, because last time he wrote similiar "argument" against the most logical theory of Finns being originally Mongoloid, metal ages invaders who killed of native R1a Corded Wareans, he got banned.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:04 PM
This finn is butthurt, because last time he wrote similiar "argument" against the most logical theory of Finns being originally Mongoloid, metal ages invaders who killed of native R1a Corded Wareans, he got banned.

There is nothing logical about that theory.

Viking
10-22-2017, 10:05 PM
Belgium is a beautiful town. Just fucking accept that, it's good enough. The world is not obligated to know all about these small countries out there that don't have any right to exist in the first place. We have all these tiny little countries out there because all these little people think they get to break away and have their own little place. There should be four countries in the world: Germany, Russia, China, USA.
And Texas

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:05 PM
Tesla never said that. On the other hand, he was proud to wear an Albanian traditional suit as a young man.

Absolutly no. :)

You know better then me what is Albanian suit ? Ask some Albanians is he Albanian??

They will also laugh of your bullshit speaking.

Ask user Laberia about it. I consider him as serious user.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 10:07 PM
There is nothing logical about that theory.

Genetics prove it, and disprove Pit-Comb Ware being Proto-Finno-Ugrian.

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/03/baltic-corded-ware-rich-in-r1a-z645.html

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:07 PM
This finn is butthurt, because last time he wrote similiar "argument" against the most logical theory of Finns being originally Mongoloid, metal ages invaders who killed of native R1a Corded Wareans, he got banned.

Fuck off Polak. Who gives a fuck about you Commie Slav bastards banning me. I live in a free land and I will die in a Slav-free Free land. Fuck off you commie piece of shit

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:08 PM
Absolutly no. :)

You know better then me what is Albanian suit ? Ask some Albanians is he Albanian??

They will also laugh of your bullshit speaking.

Ask user Laberia about it. I consider him as serious user.

There are Albania in Albania with proof of his citizenship. Google it, the jig is up. South Slavs cultural vampirism exposed once again.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:09 PM
Come at me you Slavic whores and pimps and criminals

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:10 PM
Genetics prove it, and disprove Pit-Comb Ware being Proto-Finno-Ugrian.

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/03/baltic-corded-ware-rich-in-r1a-z645.html

This essentially proves the opposite. I hope you understand that the "Mongoloid" DNA in Finns pre-dates this by thousands of years.

Dick
10-22-2017, 10:11 PM
Come at me you Slavic whores and pimps and criminals


https://youtu.be/Fa0hCOR6Fvw

Veslan
10-22-2017, 10:11 PM
Who gives a fuck about you Commie Slav bastards banning me.
You, because after it, and after you got unbanned, you concentrate mainly on insulting Poles. Seems like you got really mad.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:14 PM
There are Albania in Albania with proof of his citizenship. Google it, the jig is up. South Slavs cultural vampirism exposed once again.

Tesla was a Serb. Even you Americanos called him a Serb, in America.

I am saying again: You are envy on our high IQ and the highest invention ever, in whole world.

You just want to represent him as Albanian, and all users know that this claim is big shit.


South Slavs cultural vampirism exposed once again.

Again painfull fact:

South Slavs invented alternate current.

Deal with it.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:15 PM
You, because after it, and after you got unbanned, you concentrate mainly on insulting Poles. Seems like you got really mad.

Yeah because I'm talking to illiterate cabbage farmers. How much for your whore sister you fucking cabbage farmer piece of shit

Root
10-22-2017, 10:17 PM
Not a Mongoloid yet, just screw up your small eyes

Veslan
10-22-2017, 10:18 PM
Yeah because I'm talking to illiterate cabbage farmers. How much for your whore sister you fucking cabbage farmer piece of shit

You finnics are funny when you try to insult the Aryans (Slavs). Unfortunetaly, I do not even take you seriously, so you are not making yourself look as tough as you think, clown.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:20 PM
You finnics are funny when you try to insult the Aryans (Slavs). Unfortunetaly, I do not even take you seriously, so you are not making yourself look as tough as you think, clown.

Who the fuck gives a shit about you shitheads and your ARyan bullshit. Fucking piece of shit.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:21 PM
Oh look at me I'M A FUCKING ARYAN SELLING MY SISTER EATING CABBAGE AND DRINKING VODKA

FUCK OFF SHITHEADS

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 10:22 PM
Yeah because I'm talking to illiterate cabbage farmers. How much for your whore sister you fucking cabbage farmer piece of shit
Moaning over forums will not change the fact your kin were traded as slaves by Novgorod Republic.

Hudayar
10-22-2017, 10:23 PM
Oh look at me I'M A FUCKING ARYAN SELLING MY SISTER EATING CABBAGE AND DRINKING VODKA

FUCK OFF SHITHEADS

But Aryans don't drink Vodka. They usually enjoy whatever they drink in India/Iran

Veslan
10-22-2017, 10:23 PM
Who the fuck gives a shit about you shitheads and your ARyan bullshit. Fucking piece of shit.

Again, you, because you replied to my post ;)

Dick
10-22-2017, 10:24 PM
But Aryans don't drink Vodka. They usually enjoy whatever they drink in India/Iran

Cow piss?

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:25 PM
But Aryans don't drink Vodka. They usually enjoy whatever they drink in India/Iran

Eastern Slavs are charaterised by drinking Vodka.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 10:25 PM
Oh look at me I'M A FUCKING ARYAN SELLING MY SISTER EATING CABBAGE AND DRINKING VODKA

FUCK OFF SHITHEADS

Why so upset? Does being a patrilineal descendant of Mongoloids hurt you that much? :rofl_002:

Porn Master
10-22-2017, 10:27 PM
slavik



https://authenticnationalsocialismmemes.files.wordpress.co m/2015/08/untermensch.jpg

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:27 PM
Moaning over forums will not change the fact your kin were traded as slaves by Novgorod Republic.

No fucking way. Slavs were traded as Slaves. The lords were all N1c1 Finnic men.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:28 PM
slavik



https://authenticnationalsocialismmemes.files.wordpress.co m/2015/08/untermensch.jpg

Who of Slavs are neo-nazis??

Slavs have suffered becouse of Nazi's politics.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 10:28 PM
slavik



https://authenticnationalsocialismmemes.files.wordpress.co m/2015/08/untermensch.jpg

Left one is probably N1c crypto-Finnic, right one is a German of whatever German haplogroup.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:28 PM
No fucking way. Slavs were traded as Slaves. The lords were all N1c1 Finnic men.

Finns lords? Nice joke.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 10:29 PM
No fucking way. Slavs were traded as Slaves. The lords were all N1c1 Finnic men.

What is your opinion about me anthropologically

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:29 PM
Why so upset? Does being a patrilineal descendant of Mongoloids hurt you that much? :rofl_002:

Haplogroup N is proven to be originally West Eurasian haplogroup. Check Oase from Romania. Haplogroup R is originally from South East Asia. This is a fact.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:31 PM
What is your opinion about me anthropologically

You look very very untermensch Slavic. I doubt you would be fit to be even be slave. Just kill yourself.

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 10:31 PM
You look very very untermensch Slavic. I doubt you would be fit to be even be slave. Just kill yourself.

What did I do to you?

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:33 PM
Haplogroup N is proven to be originally West Eurasian haplogroup. Check Oase from Romania. Haplogroup R is originally from South East Asia. This is a fact.

N originate from Siberia.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 10:33 PM
Haplogroup N is proven to be originally West Eurasian haplogroup. Check Oase from Romania. Haplogroup R is originally from South East Asia. This is a fact.

"West Eurasian"? Lol. Almost all population geneticists agree it's East Asian.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Prehistoric_migration_routes_for_Y-chromosome_haplogroup_N_lineage.png

Something like this, although timing is incorrect, N1c probably came to Europe much later.

Porn Master
10-22-2017, 10:33 PM
Left one is probably N1c crypto-Finnic, right one is a German of whatever German haplogroup.





no, he looks slavic slave slav

Lucia
10-22-2017, 10:35 PM
Why everyone on this forum hates to be mongoloid??

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:35 PM
Haplogroup N is proven to be originally West Eurasian haplogroup. Check Oase from Romania. Haplogroup R is originally from South East Asia. This is a fact.

Fucking pwnd. Veslan = worm food.

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 10:35 PM
Haplogroup N is proven to be originally West Eurasian haplogroup. Check Oase from Romania. Haplogroup R is originally from South East Asia. This is a fact.

Oase has nothing to do with N, as Genetiker's analysis has shown. N1c1-Tat comes from Neolithic Chinese Xueshan culture.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:36 PM
"West Eurasian"? Lol. Almost all population geneticists agree it's East Asian.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Prehistoric_migration_routes_for_Y-chromosome_haplogroup_N_lineage.png

Something like this, although timing is incorrect, N1c probably came to Europe much later.

Only bullshit Chinese and Polish scientist. It has as already been proven that N has European origin (Oase from Romania) The bullshit Chinese scientist can't ignore these facts much longer anymore.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:36 PM
"West Eurasian"? Lol. Almost all population geneticists agree it's East Asian.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Prehistoric_migration_routes_for_Y-chromosome_haplogroup_N_lineage.png

Something like this, although timing is incorrect, N1c probably came to Europe much later.

This graph pre-dates the sequencing of the Oase 1 genome. It is now void.

Viking
10-22-2017, 10:36 PM
Why everyone on this forum hates to be mongoloid??

I don't.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:37 PM
Well, we have now the orgies of Finno-Ugric Asian trolls.

Typical Slav :

https://content.newsinc.com/jpg/484/32054071/51655881.jpg?t=1488282840


Typical Finn:

https://cf.girlsaskguys.com/q2171357/0efc016c-b826-4feb-9b91-9592ec710a03.jpg

Veslan
10-22-2017, 10:37 PM
Fucking pwnd. Veslan = worm food.

You have nice imagination, lol.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:38 PM
Oase has nothing to do with N, as Genetiker's analysis has shown. N1c1-Tat comes from Neolithic Chinese Xueshan culture.

No it does not. Xueshan N is completely different lineage. It arrived to China from Steppe.

Veslan
10-22-2017, 10:39 PM
This graph pre-dates the sequencing of the Oase 1 genome. It is now void.

See


Oase has nothing to do with N, as Genetiker's analysis has shown. N1c1-Tat comes from Neolithic Chinese Xueshan culture.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:39 PM
Well, we have now the orgies of Finno-Ugric Asian trolls.

Typical Slav :

https://content.newsinc.com/jpg/484/32054071/51655881.jpg?t=1488282840




Typical South Slav. North/Central/Far East Slavs don't descend from these monkey looking subhumans.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:40 PM
See

Genetiker's "analysis" is garbage as well.

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 10:40 PM
No it does not. Xueshan N is completely different lineage. It arrived to China from Steppe.

No. Clades ancestral to Finnic one are mostly present in distant Siberian populations, thereby proving all N1c1-Tat did indeed come from Eastern Asia. And I repeat, Oase has nothing to do with N, it is haplogroup K*.
https://i.imgur.com/fiTQ9OG.jpg

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 10:41 PM
you all should read this book https://books.google.com/books?id=dDrYsjGq35wC&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=leptoprosopic+in+anthropology&source=bl&ots=6LCUZfyazl&sig=nFtHAFKys_88NpLNdwsL6_eDEBo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjA6b-KpYXXAhWC5CYKHQwhAfQQ6AEIMzAC#v=onepage&q=leptoprosopic%20in%20anthropology&f=false

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:42 PM
No. Clades ancestral to Finnic one are mostly present in distant Siberian populations, thereby proving all N1c1-Tat did indeed come from Eastern Asia. And I repeat, Oase has nothing to do with N, it is haplogroup K*.
https://i.imgur.com/fiTQ9OG.jpg

N descends from K2a (Oase 1)

Porn Master
10-22-2017, 10:43 PM
Well, we have now the orgies of Finno-Ugric Asian trolls.

Typical Slav :

https://content.newsinc.com/jpg/484/32054071/51655881.jpg?t=1488282840









he looks a depigmented gypsy

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:44 PM
Typical South Slav. North/Central/Far East Slavs don't descend from these monkey looking subhumans.

He is still better looking then Americano subhumans.

Finno-Ugrics, i represented them.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:44 PM
he looks a depigmented gypsy

Gypsy with blue eyes.

You are just envy :)

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 10:45 PM
No. Clades ancestral to Finnic one are mostly present in distant Siberian populations, thereby proving all N1c1-Tat did indeed come from Eastern Asia. And I repeat, Oase has nothing to do with N, it is haplogroup K*.
https://i.imgur.com/fiTQ9OG.jpg

This graph is absolute nonsense. It was propably written by some Polak.

Porn Master
10-22-2017, 10:45 PM
Gypsy with blue eyes.

You are just envy :)





I have also blue eyes so what? His facial characters are very gypsoid

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 10:46 PM
N descends from K2a (Oase 1)

Oase is just basal K*.
https://genetiker.wordpress.com/y-snp-calls-for-oase-1/

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:46 PM
I have also blue eyes so what? His facial characters are very gypsoid

You are gypsy with blue eyes or what?

Even you don't think like that. You just try to blame him. And it is unsuccesful.

Porn Master
10-22-2017, 10:48 PM
You are gypsy with blue eyes or what?

Even you don't think like that. You just try to blame him. And it is unsuccesful.



I don't. I said the truth and it hurts you

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:49 PM
Oase is just basal K*.
https://genetiker.wordpress.com/y-snp-calls-for-oase-1/

No, Oase is k2a. Qiaomei Fu > some unemployed guy named "Genetiker" living in his mom's basement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peștera_cu_Oase

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 10:50 PM
I don't. I said the truth and it hurts you

No. You said a bullshit, and you know it.

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 10:54 PM
No, Oase is k2a. Qiaomei Fu > some unemployed guy named "Genetiker" living in his mom's basement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peștera_cu_Oase

There is analysis down to the every single SNP tested on his site.
Anyways- this does not change the fact that modern-day Finnic N1c1 variant only came there late in Neolithic at best, and that it came from Eastern Asia.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 10:57 PM
There is analysis down to the every single SNP tested on his site.
Anyways- this does not change the fact that modern-day Finnic N1c1 variant only came there late in Neolithic at best, and that it came from Eastern Asia.

Rofl, no, see it changes everything. Genetiker is an unemployed 40-something year old male who lives in his mom's house, and has no credentials of any kind. He is clearly pulling this stuff out of thin air, because the people with an actual education say he is K2a. The direct antecendant of NO.

amoora
10-22-2017, 11:00 PM
Sort of. You have a mixed look :)

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 11:00 PM
Oase is just basal K*.
https://genetiker.wordpress.com/y-snp-calls-for-oase-1/

Oase fucking was NO. Even Genetiker agreed to that later. I'm not fucking having this discussion again. When it's fucking obvious it was N.

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 11:00 PM
Rofl, no, see it changes everything. Genetiker is an unemployed 40-something year old male who lives in his mom's house, and has no credentials of any kind. He is clearly pulling this stuff out of thin air, because the people with an actual education say he is K2a. The direct antecendant of NO.
And it still doesn't change the fact that Finnish N1c1 is not native to Europe.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 11:01 PM
There is analysis down to the every single SNP tested on his site.
Anyways- this does not change the fact that modern-day Finnic N1c1 variant only came there late in Neolithic at best, and that it came from Eastern Asia.

Keep daydreaming brown boy.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 11:06 PM
Well, we have now the orgies of Finno-Ugric Asian trolls.

Typical Slav :

https://content.newsinc.com/jpg/484/32054071/51655881.jpg?t=1488282840


Typical Finn:

https://cf.girlsaskguys.com/q2171357/0efc016c-b826-4feb-9b91-9592ec710a03.jpg

Meet Lauri Markkanen

https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/bulls-062817_69744569.jpg

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 11:07 PM
Keep daydreaming brown boy.
None of tested Mesolithic northern Europeans had N1c1. Another fact for you to swallow.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 11:11 PM
Jiri Hudler, Czech. He has the proto-Slavic mongoloid look. He could legit pass as Vietnamese

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Jiri+Hudler+2007+NHL+Headshots+MaMp485ouUwl.jpg

Veslan
10-22-2017, 11:14 PM
I have also blue eyes so what? His facial characters are very gypsoid


Jiri Hudler, Czech. He has the proto-Slavic mongoloid look. He could legit pass as Vietnamese

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Jiri+Hudler+2007+NHL+Headshots+MaMp485ouUwl.jpg

Nothing Proto-Slavic about him, original Slavs, similiary to the original pre-Finnic population of what we call now "Finland", were Eastern Nordids.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 11:15 PM
Meet Lauri Markkanen

https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/bulls-062817_69744569.jpg


Lauri Markannen looks like some Swedish guy.

I represented how Finns look.

This Czech guy is asian influenced but that phenotype can be found in Czechia less then 1%.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 11:17 PM
Jiri Hudler, Czech. He has the proto-Slavic mongoloid look. He could legit pass as Vietnamese

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Jiri+Hudler+2007+NHL+Headshots+MaMp485ouUwl.jpg

Proto-Slavic. Very believable. Interesting. How then this phenotype is more common in Finland.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 11:17 PM
Lauri Markannen looks like some Swedish guy.

I represented how Finns look.

This Czech guy is asian influenced but that phenotype can be found in Czechia less then 1%.

Lauri Markkanen is East Finnish guy and he looks like one too.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 11:19 PM
Proto-Slavic. Very believable. Interesting. How then this phenotype is more common in Finland.

Lol you honestly think these kind of brown roundheaded gypsies are more common in Finland

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 11:20 PM
Lauri Markkanen is East Finnish guy and he looks like one too.

Mika Haikonen? What about his asian admixture. Is he European too?

Vlatko Vukovic
10-22-2017, 11:21 PM
Lol you honestly think these kind of brown roundheaded gypsies are more common in Finland

I dont think. I know that this is more common in Finland.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 11:22 PM
None of tested Mesolithic northern Europeans had N1c1. Another fact for you to swallow.

I don't need to find it from Europe. I know from tested timings of Finnish admixtures what admixture comes from where and what brought it.

Harkonnen
10-22-2017, 11:23 PM
Mika Haikonen? What about his asian admixture. Is he European too?

He is for sure more European looking guy than that Czech creep.

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 11:29 PM
I don't need to find it from Europe. I know from tested timings of Finnish admixtures what admixture comes from where and what brought it.

You are an immigrant.

Decius
10-22-2017, 11:34 PM
Come at me you Slavic whores and pimps and criminals

Fuck you stupid asian finn go back to mongolia, piece of shit immigrant


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hS5ebamDb0

greasycaveman
10-22-2017, 11:36 PM
Fuck you stupid asian finn go back to mongolia, piece of shit immigrant


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hS5ebamDb0

^

Decius
10-22-2017, 11:37 PM
long live the russian empire long live the serbian empire Slava!

Fuck the finno asians and mongol hordes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DAi7XtvwIM

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 11:38 PM
Oase 1 and his descendants (likely N1c) were in Europe and West Eurasia before I, J and all the other Cro-Niggers. Besides if you aren't Haplogroup A, you're an immigrant in Europe.

Aenar
10-22-2017, 11:41 PM
Oase 1 and his descendants (likely N1c) were in Europe and West Eurasia before I, J and all the other Cro-Niggers. Besides if you aren't Haplogroup A, you're an immigrant in Europe.

So according to you Scandos which are I1 are niggers, right?

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 11:43 PM
Oase 1 and his descendants (likely N1c) were in Europe and West Eurasia before I, J and all the other Cro-Niggers. .
Unsupported by ancient DNA. N1c1-Tat, ancestral to Finnish clade, comes from East Asia.

Wanderer
10-22-2017, 11:44 PM
Dude, you have Asiatic eyes and you look Central Asian. Just accept it. Nothing wrong with that. Embrace it. Be happy.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 11:46 PM
Yes. I1 is a foreign immigrant nigger haplogroup. The original European haplogroup is A from Neanderthals.


http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/sima-de-los-huesos-hominins-early-neanderthals-03703.html


Haplogroups like I1 didn't appear in Europe until the Neanderthals had bred themselves out of a pure existence using the Niggeroid Cro-Afro Balkanite black chocolate women. However new research in China suggests hapogroups ABCD and E could also be Neanderthal survivals in modern humans.


http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/blog/2017/01/25/world-science-en-route-from-out-of-africa-to-out-of-america-first-stop-is-out-of-asia/

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 11:48 PM
Unsupported by ancient DNA. N1c1-Tat, ancestral to Finnish clade, comes from East Asia.

No, it doesn't. Oase 1's genome and time placement doesn't fit with that.

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 11:50 PM
No, it doesn't. Oase 1's genome busted a hole in the old East Asian theory of N.
Even if the NO evolved exactly from him- they went to East Asia regardless. There is no evidence of its survival in Europe. And there is every evidence that N1c1-Tat branch evolved in Neolithic Chinese Xueshan culture.

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 11:53 PM
Yes. I1 is a foreign immigrant nigger haplogroup. The original European haplogroup is A from Neanderthals.


http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/sima-de-los-huesos-hominins-early-neanderthals-03703.html


Haplogroups like I1 didn't appear in Europe until the Neanderthals had bred themselves out of a pure existence using the Niggeroid Cro-Afro Balkanite black chocolate women. However new research in China suggests hapogroups ABCD and E could also be Neanderthal survivals in modern humans.


http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/blog/2017/01/25/world-science-en-route-from-out-of-africa-to-out-of-america-first-stop-is-out-of-asia/

A study which no one takes seriously.
Only one haplogroup remained standing in Europe after Last Glacial Maximum. And we all know which one it was.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 11:54 PM
There is no evidence for that, genetiker's doodling isn't evidence. Also there is no reason to believe they went to the Southeast Asia when there isn't even evidence for it in the fossil record, much less DNA.

cosmoo
10-22-2017, 11:55 PM
There is no evidence for that, genetiker's doodling isn't evidence. Also there is no reason to believe they went to the Southeast Asia when there isn't even evidence for it in the fossil record, much less DNA.

Neolithic Xueshan results: https://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v62/n2/full/jhg2016107a.html
100% N, of which 41% N1c1-Tat.

Aenar
10-22-2017, 11:55 PM
Yes. I1 is a foreign immigrant nigger haplogroup. The original European haplogroup is A from Neanderthals.


http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/sima-de-los-huesos-hominins-early-neanderthals-03703.html


Haplogroups like I1 didn't appear in Europe until the Neanderthals had bred themselves out of a pure existence using the Niggeroid Cro-Afro Balkanite black chocolate women. However new research in China suggests hapogroups ABCD and E could also be Neanderthal survivals in modern humans.


http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/blog/2017/01/25/world-science-en-route-from-out-of-africa-to-out-of-america-first-stop-is-out-of-asia/

All humans came from Africa, some earlier some later.

Grab the Gauge
10-22-2017, 11:57 PM
A study which no one takes seriously.
Only one haplogroup remained standing in Europe after Last Glacial Maximum. And we all know which one it was.

An immigrant. Also, people are taking this study very seriously. Besides, it makes sense. C, D and E reallly DO have more Neanderthal admix. A used to be pure Neanderthals.

Grab the Gauge
10-23-2017, 12:02 AM
Neolithic Xueshan results: https://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v62/n2/full/jhg2016107a.html
100% N, of which 41% N1c1-Tat.

That's not evidence for Oase 1 descendants going to East Asia. It is just some N1c that ended up in East Asia by Neolithic times. No European Aurignacian tools in China, no skulls with similar attributes, nothing. Oase 1's descendants could have gone anywhere. They could even have stayed in Europe. Oase 1's placement in Europe nearly 40,000 years ago doesn't fit with what was predicted about K and N.

Aenar
10-23-2017, 12:06 AM
Yes. I1 is a foreign immigrant nigger haplogroup. The original European haplogroup is A from Neanderthals.


http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/sima-de-los-huesos-hominins-early-neanderthals-03703.html


Haplogroups like I1 didn't appear in Europe until the Neanderthals had bred themselves out of a pure existence using the Niggeroid Cro-Afro Balkanite black chocolate women. However new research in China suggests hapogroups ABCD and E could also be Neanderthal survivals in modern humans.


http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/blog/2017/01/25/world-science-en-route-from-out-of-africa-to-out-of-america-first-stop-is-out-of-asia/

I1 is not Negroid haplogroup, E1b is negroid originally.

cosmoo
10-23-2017, 12:07 AM
An immigrant. Also, people are taking this study very seriously. Besides, it makes sense. C, D and E reallly DO have more Neanderthal admix. A used to be pure Neanderthals.
Sequenced Neanderthal Y-DNA was intepreted as pre-A00, i.e. diverging from modern humans by at least half a million years. Seems those ching-chongs have a hard time understanding that, and are taking A (Khoisan haplogroup) as "Neanderthal".


That's not evidence for Oase 1 descendants going to East Asia. It is just some N1c that ended up in East Asia by Neolithic times. No European Aurignacian tools in China, no skulls with similar attributes, nothing. Oase 1's descendants could have gone anywhere. They could even have stayed in Europe. Oase 1's placement in Europe nearly 40,000 years ago doesn't fit with what was predicted about K and N.
I am talking about the fact that wherever the hell N developed firstly, it is a very diverse haplogroup, and the specific subclade which is found in Finns undoubtedly comes from East Asia based on both modern and ancient DNA.

Magnolia
10-23-2017, 12:11 AM
You remind me of some kind of an elf, or a young devil's child.

Grab the Gauge
10-23-2017, 12:12 AM
Nope. E1b descends from E which is a Neanderthal haplogroup.


http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/blog/2017/01/25/world-science-en-route-from-out-of-africa-to-out-of-america-first-stop-is-out-of-asia/

Grab the Gauge
10-23-2017, 12:15 AM
Sequenced Neanderthal Y-DNA was intepreted as pre-A00, i.e. diverging from modern humans by at least half a million years. Seems those ching-chongs have a hard time understanding that, and are taking A (Khoisan haplogroup) as "Neanderthal".

Yes, all African A DNA shows high affinities with Neanderthals according to their research.


Neanderthals were just an offshoot of archaic Africans.



I am talking about the fact that wherever the hell N developed firstly, it is a very diverse haplogroup, and the specific subclade which is found in Finns undoubtedly comes from East Asia based on both modern and ancient DNA.

No, Genetiker merely found a study in which N1c are found in China in Neolithic times. N1c could have, and judging by Oase 1's position in early Aurignacian times, MUST HAVE been further West. It means nothing, N1c people would have been out west as well.

Aenar
10-23-2017, 12:17 AM
Nope. E1b descends from E which is a Neanderthal haplogroup.


http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/blog/2017/01/25/world-science-en-route-from-out-of-africa-to-out-of-america-first-stop-is-out-of-asia/

The highest percentage of E is among black African people, E1b haplogroup originated in Somalia.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Y_Haplogroup_E.PNG

Grab the Gauge
10-23-2017, 12:24 AM
The highest percentage of E is among black African people, E1b haplogroup originated in Somalia.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Y_Haplogroup_E.PNG

And black Africans score the lowest levels of Neanderthal admixture -- why?


Because they are pure Neanderthals! Admixture won't show up where it isn't detected. Just ask Dick, somebody get Dick in here. He ran a Neanderthal through a calculator and it came back 99% subsaharan African. And this Chinese study finds high Neanderthal affinities on A, B, C, D and E.


Neanderthals = highly divergent and isolated Africans who were in Europe, west Eurasia, perhaps even East Asia.

Modern humans = East Asian, or perhaps even Native American. Maybe evolved from Native American monkeys.

Dick
10-23-2017, 12:28 AM
somebody get Dick in here.

Pun intended I hope.


He ran a Neanderthal through a calculator and it came back 99% subsaharan African.


Give or take a percent point margin of error, yes.

Aenar
10-23-2017, 12:35 AM
And black Africans score the lowest levels of Neanderthal admixture -- why?


Because they are pure Neanderthals! Admixture won't show up where it isn't detected. Just ask Dick, somebody get Dick in here. He ran a Neanderthal through a calculator and it came back 99% subsaharan African. And this Chinese study finds high Neanderthal affinities on A, B, C, D and E.


Neanderthals = highly divergent and mutated archaic Africans who were in Europe, west Eurasia, perhaps even East Asia.

Neanderthals were not Homo sapiens.

https://listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Neanderthal-Face-Paint.jpg
https://annoyzview.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/how-neanderthals-may-have-looked-like.jpg

greasycaveman
10-23-2017, 01:19 AM
Dude, you have Asiatic eyes and you look Central Asian. Just accept it. Nothing wrong with that. Embrace it. Be happy.

Central Asian? You mean west asian? Turks themselves say I look very turkic. I look nothing of a Mongolian or Uzbek. Learn geography mate.

Iloko
10-23-2017, 01:51 AM
Yes and also facial/skull structure to a certain extent. You still look mostly Caucasoid though.

Mingle
10-23-2017, 01:58 AM
Yes, I'd say so.

greasycaveman
10-23-2017, 02:09 AM
Ne he does not. You have no idea what an epicanthal fold is.


The Finno Ugrics were never fully Mongoloid, and NEVER the beak nosed, inflated maxillae, long faced Mongoloids this guy could even be remotely compared to.

Central Asian admixture is often masked as Finno Ugric in Eastern Europeans/West Asians, because they got it from mixed Scyths and Sarmatians who have shown a superficial genetic resemblance to North Asians. The more likely explanationnis that he simply has admixture from Iranics who got the mixture in Central Asia and migrated west and assimilated as Slavs.

Dude mordvins have convex noses, doesnt make any sense.

greasycaveman
10-23-2017, 02:57 AM
Nothing Asian about me except medium folds 69031 69032 not even genetically. Deal with it.

Mortimer
10-23-2017, 03:03 AM
dude you said you did a genetic test and were 100% european. so it proves you are fully european, period.

Finnish Swede
10-23-2017, 03:22 AM
Unsupported by ancient DNA. N1c1-Tat, ancestral to Finnish clade, comes from East Asia.


I dont think. I know that this is more common in Finland.

I find it very funny that someone from countries like....Montenegro & Bosnia? and etc. .... attacks against Finland & Finns.

Perhaps someone from Norway or Switzerland could have courages to try to do that, but those.

MEDACHE
10-23-2017, 07:22 AM
you are a mongolian dobby from harry potter

Milkas
10-23-2017, 07:54 AM
I think very Mongoloid and Asian eyes! Yes
what is your ethnicity?

cosmoo
10-23-2017, 08:33 AM
I find it very funny that someone from countries like....Montenegro & Bosnia? and etc. .... attacks against Finland & Finns.

Perhaps someone from Norway or Switzerland could have courages to try to do that, but those.
This is not an attack by any means, but merely stating the genetic facts.
And yes, even if it was the attack, we can attack whomever the fuck we please. Shall I have any respect for those who were treated like doormats by everyone who came near them for centuries? No.

Finnish Swede
10-23-2017, 09:30 AM
This is not an attack by any means, but merely stating the genetic facts.
And yes, even if it was the attack, we can attack whomever the fuck we please. Shall I have any respect for those who were treated like doormats by everyone who came near them for centuries? No.

There are even some in Europe who are not good enough for... what you called it?...yes..."Doormats!".

cosmoo
10-23-2017, 09:34 AM
There are even some in Europe who are not good enough for... what you called it?...yes..."Doormats!".
I'm afraid there can hardly be anyone as bad, except your two southern neighbors in the Baltic, who were even bigger doormats.

Finnish Swede
10-23-2017, 10:33 AM
I'm afraid there can hardly be anyone as bad, except your two southern neighbors in the Baltic, who were even bigger doormats.

If Stalin would still be alive he could give you answer. Never make mistake to keep Finns like"slavics".

Gone West
10-23-2017, 10:45 AM
If Stalin would still be alive he could give you answer. Never make mistake to keep Finns like"slavics".

I like the Finns.

greasycaveman
10-23-2017, 10:48 AM
you are a mongolian dobby from harry potter

I domt care what you think witch doctor. Get the fuck off my shit Nigger.

Gone West
10-23-2017, 10:50 AM
The Finns actually sided with Nazi Germany, for the preservation of their own people. They obviously made the right choice, at least, they weren't fucking communists-tards like many of the former SFR Yugoslavia countries.

ЛыSSый
10-23-2017, 10:56 AM
This is not an attack by any means, but merely stating the genetic facts.
And yes, even if it was the attack, we can attack whomever the fuck we please. Shall I have any respect for those who were treated like doormats by everyone who came near them for centuries? No.

you've written like it's something bad. But finns made decision to be doormats and were hard enought for being them by centuries.

Finnish Swede
10-23-2017, 11:05 AM
The Finns actually sided with Nazi Germany, for the preservation of their own people. They obviously made the right choice, at least, they weren't fucking communists-tards like many of the former SFR Yugoslavia countries.

Exactly. Unlike all slavics.

Gone West
10-23-2017, 11:11 AM
Exactly. Unlike all slavics.

Partly false. Some Ukrainians and others Slavics sided with Nazi Germany. In the 14th Waffen SS Grenadier Division.

They were for the most part not Slavs genetically (phenotypically) but only culturally.

But remember that Slavs were meant to be exterminated in the part of the final solution, so no wonder why they sided with USSR. I disapprove this idea of undesirable people.

Finnish Swede
10-23-2017, 11:22 AM
Partly false. Some Ukrainians and others Slavics sided with Nazi Germany. In the 14th Waffen SS Grenadier Division.

They were for the most part not Slavs genetically (phenotypically) but only culturally.

But remember that Slavs were meant to be exterminated in the part of the final solution, so no wonder why they sided with USSR. I disapprove this idea of undesirable people.

I'm aware of that. But only the outcome matters (I was't talking about WW 2).

Gone West
10-23-2017, 11:29 AM
I'm aware of that. But only the outcome matters (I was't talking about WW 2).

I don't care, I am national-socialist.

Traitors will have their head cut off. Heroes will arise. That is the outcome of every conflict.

Heroes can be from two sides and traitors too.

Gone West
10-23-2017, 11:42 AM
Anyway of all this is dead history, I can go to Finland and integrate fully if I want. Apart from my slight slavic vibe, I am a white european like the Finns and they won't see me as a threat to their internal security.

Vlatko Vukovic
10-23-2017, 11:48 AM
The Finns actually sided with Nazi Germany, for the preservation of their own people. They obviously made the right choice, at least, they weren't fucking communists-tards like many of the former SFR Yugoslavia countries.

At least we opposed to Germans and fought from beginning until the end of war. Not like some countries...

Finnish Swede
10-23-2017, 11:52 AM
I don't care, I am national-socialist.

Traitors will have their head cut off. Heroes will arise. That is the outcome of every conflict.

Heroes can be from two sides and traitors too.

Happens in fantasy world and action films.

The real one is more crue to "heroes". If you just are in
wrong side or get occupied by wrong army (as slavics)...shit happens.

Gone West
10-23-2017, 11:56 AM
Happens in fantasy world and action films.

The real one is more crue to "heroes". If you just are in
wrong side or get occupied by wrong army (as slavics)...shit happens.

Depends who you consider Heroes.

cosmoo
10-23-2017, 12:07 PM
If Stalin would still be alive he could give you answer. Never make mistake to keep Finns like"slavics".

Muh Winter War (which, still, was lost) does not erase the fact that everyone used to wipe their ass with Finns for centuries beforehand. For example, Novgorod Republic sold them as slaves and hunted them for sport.
Besides, when Russians brought hardened men used to the terrain, unlike green lads from the south in Winter War (where they still dictated terms of peace in the end), things changed dramatically.

Finnish Swede
10-23-2017, 12:25 PM
Muh Winter War (which, still, was lost) does not erase the fact that everyone used to wipe their ass with Finns for centuries beforehand. For example, Novgorod Republic sold them as slaves and hunted them for sport.
Besides, when Russians brought hardened men used to the terrain, unlike green lads from the south in Winter War (where they still dictated terms of peace in the end), things changed dramatically.

Nope...Finnish men just "ended". No matter that Finns killed more Russian solders than Russians killed Finns. Yup Russians started to fight against 14- 15 years old Finnish teenage boys more and more. But if Russians would have been you, I'm sure that even those boys would have managed just well.

Some became communist, some do't. Eat that!

Gone West
10-23-2017, 12:31 PM
Nope...Finnish men just "ended". No matter that Finns killed more Russian solders than Russians killed Finns. Yup Russians started to fight against 14- 15 years old Finnish teenage boys more and more. But if Russians would have been you, I'm sure that even those boys would have managed just well.

Some became communist, some do't. Eat that!

Depends on the training, now, the Finnish army is not that powerful. They are mostly contingents of young boys that are german-gear equipped and with basic training.

cosmoo
10-23-2017, 12:34 PM
Nope...Finnish men just "ended". No matter that Finns killed more Russian solders than Russians killed Finns. Yup Russians started to fight against 14- 15 years old Finnish teenage boys more and more. But if Russians would have been you, I'm sure that even those boys would have managed just well.

Some became communist, some do't. Eat that!

You are an avid historical revisionist or you are writing bad fanfiction? I can't tell the difference, to be honest.
Also, being silent on centuries prior to those events means affirmation of servile nature of your country, I suppose.

Gone West
10-23-2017, 12:37 PM
Even as a practical nurse my basic training is maybe better than the average Finnish one. Scandinavian countries are not advanced in warfare and military training.

Medic in most armies handle guns. Not sure about the Finnish army. That means a LOT.

Finnish Swede
10-23-2017, 12:45 PM
You are an avid historical revisionist or you are writing bad fanfiction? I can't tell the difference, to be honest.
Also, being silent on centuries prior to those events means affirmation of servile nature of your country, I suppose.

You can not tell me anything (what comes to history of my own country)..."slav".
So better to concentrate your own country's history...communism & sosialism.