Çorpan Tarkan autosomal results

[Böri]

This is where I am from:

https://i.hizliresim.com/V3M5Er.jpg

Ancient European origins -
Metal Age Invaders: 34 %
Farmers: 46 %
Hunter Gatherers: 6 %
Non-European: 15 %

My origins map-
https://i.hizliresim.com/5GQrgR.jpg

MDLP K23b Oracle

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.31
2 South_Central_Asian 15.99
3 European_Early_Farmers 8.7
4 Tungus-Altaic 6.5
5 Near_East 6.49
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 5.36
7 East_Siberian 5
8 Ancestral_Altaic 4.36
9 South_East_Asian 3.29
10 South_Indian 2.66
11 North_African 2.34
12 Amerindian 0.64
13 Arctic 0.56
14 Melano_Polynesian 0.38
15 East_African 0.21
16 Archaic_Human 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk_Aydin ( ) 7.74
2 Turk_Adana ( ) 9.71
3 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 10.42
4 Turk ( ) 10.58
5 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 10.68
6 Nogai ( ) 11.37
7 Azeri ( ) 11.69
8 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 12.05
9 Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) 13.03
10 Kurd_North ( ) 13.11
11 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 13.81
12 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 13.9
13 Kurd_South ( ) 14.01
14 Kurd_East ( ) 14.4
15 Kurd ( ) 15.49
16 Azov_Greek ( ) 15.64
17 Iraki ( ) 15.67
18 Georgian_Jew ( ) 15.89
19 Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) 16.16
20 Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) 16.41

Mixed sharing:
80.5% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 19.5% Tatar-Siberian ( ) @ 3.4

[Pahli]

Not bad, would be nice to see MDLP World 22 and PuntDNAL K13 :)

[Hadouken]

congrats :D finally

can you post eurogenes k13 , eurasia K9 ASI , puntdnal k15 and k13

[Böri]

Not bad,

Nice comment especially after calling me deluded for years ;)

[Hudayar]

You are 15.99% Mongoloid (let's say 16%) according to your results. could you also post FULL results of MDLP k23b? like every pop mix including 2, 3 and 4. and Eurogenes too pls :D

[Pahli]

Nice comment especially after calling me deluded for years ;)

Because you grew some balls and posted some results instead of talking shit like you usually do :)

[Böri]

K36

Population
Amerindian 0.05
Arabian -
Armenian 6.87
Basque 1.39
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian 1.30
East_Balkan 4.55
East_Central_Asian 4.83
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 10.73
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian 2.05
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.37
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 9.18
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 15.91
North_Sea 0.84
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.11
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 6.71
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 11.98
South_Chinese 1.23
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 11.89
West_Med -

[Laberia]

Unfortunately nothing German.

[Pahli]

Unfortunately nothing German.

Nice meme xD

[Böri]

MDLP World-22

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 33.8
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 22.89
3 Near_East 13.5
4 East-Siberean 7.44
5 North-East-European 4.82
6 Samoedic 3.18
7 East-South-Asian 3.15
8 Indo-Iranian 2.96
9 Indian 2.13
10 North-Siberean 1.81
11 North-European-Mesolithic 1.14
12 Mesoamerican 0.66
13 Melanesian 0.6
14 North-Amerind 0.56
15 South-America_Amerind 0.56
16 Paleo-Siberian 0.53
17 Indo-Tibetan 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk (derived) 9.43
2 Greek_Azov (derived) 14.74
3 Azeri (derived) 15.02
4 Turkmen (derived) 15.16
5 Tatar_Crim (derived) 15.7
6 Cirkassian (derived) 16.14
7 Nogai (derived) 16.79
8 Kumyk (derived) 17.37
9 Kurd (derived) 17.48
10 Iraqi (derived) 17.49
11 Lebanese (derived) 17.69
12 Greek_Cretan (derived) 18.15
13 Iranian (derived) 18.39
14 Armenian (derived) 18.4
15 Jew_Syria (derived) 18.62
16 Cypriot (derived) 18.62
17 Jew-Uzbekistan (derived) 18.72
18 Balkarian (derived) 18.74
19 Syrian (derived) 19.08
20 Kabardinian (derived) 19.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

55.6% Turkmen (derived) + 44.4% Cypriot (derived) @ 5.05

[Böri]

Unfortunately nothing German.

This is Euro forum, you all value Germanic people. You treat them like semi-gods. And I just shared what those people said about Seljuk Turks. So what was the problem?

[Pahli]

Try PuntDNAL K13, MDLP 22 seems to hide your European admixture, you're getting less than me in that calculator lmfao

[Kelmendasi]

This is Euro forum, you all value Germanic people. You treat them like semi-gods. And I just shared what those people said about Seljuk Turks. So what was the problem?
I think it's because one of the Turkish members here said that Turks are of the same stock as Germanics lol

[Hadouken]

eurogenes k13 ? :(

I asked first

[Hudayar]

MDLP World-22

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 33.8
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 22.89
3 Near_East 13.5
4 East-Siberean 7.44
5 North-East-European 4.82
6 Samoedic 3.18
7 East-South-Asian 3.15
8 Indo-Iranian 2.96
9 Indian 2.13
10 North-Siberean 1.81
11 North-European-Mesolithic 1.14
12 Mesoamerican 0.66
13 Melanesian 0.6
14 North-Amerind 0.56
15 South-America_Amerind 0.56
16 Paleo-Siberian 0.53
17 Indo-Tibetan 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk (derived) 9.43
2 Greek_Azov (derived) 14.74
3 Azeri (derived) 15.02
4 Turkmen (derived) 15.16
5 Tatar_Crim (derived) 15.7
6 Cirkassian (derived) 16.14
7 Nogai (derived) 16.79
8 Kumyk (derived) 17.37
9 Kurd (derived) 17.48
10 Iraqi (derived) 17.49
11 Lebanese (derived) 17.69
12 Greek_Cretan (derived) 18.15
13 Iranian (derived) 18.39
14 Armenian (derived) 18.4
15 Jew_Syria (derived) 18.62
16 Cypriot (derived) 18.62
17 Jew-Uzbekistan (derived) 18.72
18 Balkarian (derived) 18.74
19 Syrian (derived) 19.08
20 Kabardinian (derived) 19.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

55.6% Turkmen (derived) + 44.4% Cypriot (derived) @ 5.05



Nice but you should post full MDLP k23b oracle results in your first post, could lead to some speculations.

also Turkmen+Cypriot result seems very average.

[Laberia]

This is Euro forum, you all value Germanic people. You treat them like semi-gods. And I just shared what those people said about Seljuk Turks. So what was the problem?

I am not good with genetics but if i am not wrong, your origine is between Genghis Khan and Kim Jong-un. Right?

[Böri]

K13

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 33.39
2 East_Med 22.45
3 West_Med 11.19
4 Siberian 9.81
5 North_Atlantic 7.55
6 East_Asian 5.03
7 South_Asian 4.67
8 Baltic 3.1
9 Red_Sea 1.25
10 Amerindian 1.05
11 Oceanian 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 10.1
2 Turkmen 10.57
3 Azeri 11.27
4 Kumyk 14.31
5 Balkar 15.15
6 Kurdish 15.43
7 Nogay 16.32
8 Iranian 16.89
9 Kabardin 17.01
10 Ossetian 17.05


Nice but you should post full MDLP k23b oracle results in your first post, could lead to some speculations.

also Turkmen+Cypriot result seems very average.

What speculations? It's all like that. It's irrelevant like 90% Turk Kayseri 10% Altaian. If you dont believe you are welcome.

[Böri]

I am not good with genetics but if i am not wrong, your origine is between Genghis Khan and Kim Jong-un. Right?

Between Genghis Khan and Siberia. ;)

[Böri]

I think it's because one of the Turkish members here said that Turks are of the same stock as Germanics lol

Tell me who. :)

[Hudayar]

K13

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 33.39
2 East_Med 22.45
3 West_Med 11.19
4 Siberian 9.81
5 North_Atlantic 7.55
6 East_Asian 5.03
7 South_Asian 4.67
8 Baltic 3.1
9 Red_Sea 1.25
10 Amerindian 1.05
11 Oceanian 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 10.1
2 Turkmen 10.57
3 Azeri 11.27
4 Kumyk 14.31
5 Balkar 15.15
6 Kurdish 15.43
7 Nogay 16.32
8 Iranian 16.89
9 Kabardin 17.01
10 Ossetian 17.05



What speculations? It's all like that. It's irrelevant like 90% Turk Kayseri 10% Altaian. If you dont believe you are welcome.

oracles are actually very important. 90% Turk 10% Tatar/Altaian etc might make a newcomer believe that you're only 10% original Turk/Seljuk etc. Oracles make retards shut their mouth :D

[Kelmendasi]

Tell me who. :)
Forgot the name tbh, one of the posters here may know who

[Pahli]

oracles are actually very important. 90% Turk 10% Tatar/Altaian etc might make a newcomer believe that you're only 10% original Turk/Seljuk etc. Oracles make retards shut their mouth :D

Oracles are not always something you can rely on, MDLP 22 oracles say I'm 85% Kurdish and 10 - 15% South European even though I have none of that in my family.

[Hudayar]

Oracles are sometimes dumb, MDLP 22 oracles say I'm 85% Kurdish and 10 - 15% South European even though I have none of that in my family.

depends on the oracle. oracle-4 is accurate. oracle 1 just adds extra stuff to original average on the spreadsheet. For example if you're Chinese it can say you're 98% Han+2% Armenian

[Hadouken]

Oracles are sometimes dumb, MDLP 22 oracles say I'm 85% Kurdish and 10 - 15% South European even though I have none of that in my family.

it is not dumb . it means that you have COMPARED TO THE AVERAGE KURD IN THE SPREADSHEET such a shift


depends on the oracle. oracle-4 is accurate. oracle 1 just adds extra stuff to original average on the spreadsheet

actually oracle-4 is less accurate . it turns you into a pie and makes "compromises" to make the shoe fit ..meaning it has to bring often pretty far ethnicities to match your genome

[Laberia]

Between Genghis Khan and Siberia. ;)

I was referring to the second map in the OP. Probably you looks like comrade Cheng.

[Hudayar]

it is not dumb . it means that you have COMPARED TO THE AVERAGE KURD IN THE SPREADSHEET such a shift



actually oracle-4 is less accurate . it turns you into a pie

oracle 4's job is to tell you which population mixes are close to your current genetic make up. For example let's say an average Turk is 50% percent Nogai and 50% percent Cypriot, yet, he has no Nogai or Cypriot ancestors. But the mix is unusually close to his genetic make up.

[Pahli]

depends on the oracle. oracle-4 is accurate. oracle 1 just adds extra stuff to original average on the spreadsheet. For example if you're Chinese it can say you're 98% Han+2% Armenian

PuntDNAL K13 says I'm 2 - 3% East Asian (Han Chinese / Korean), I mean it sometimes tells some useful stuff but other times makes some messed up oracles IMO xD


it is not dumb . it means that you have COMPARED TO THE AVERAGE KURD IN THE SPREADSHEET such a shift

I said sometimes, obviously not every time.

[Böri]

I was referring to the second map in the OP. Probably you looks like comrade Cheng.

That's the old genes from Altay. The Pazyryk Kurgan (east Scythian) is like 50-60% Siberian and East Asian. In my case despite mixed, it's relatively good preserved for the geographical area I am from in Turkey and the thousands of years.

[Pahli]

Still waiting for PuntDNAL K13 :)

[Hadouken]

oracle 4's job is to tell you which population mixes are close to your current genetic make up. For example let's say an average Turk is 50% percent Nogai and 50% percent Cypriot, yet, he has no Nogai or Cypriot ancestors. But the mix is unusually close to his genetic make up.

I dont agree that it is close

if you would go far enough you could make a person irish + chinese + saudi + north italian or something lol





I said sometimes, obviously not every time.

I have a jew shift on many yet have no money

[Pahli]

I dont agree that it is close

if you would go far enough you could make a person irish + chinese + saudi + north italian or something lol



I have a jew shift on many yet have no money

The jew shifts are ridiculous xD

[Böri]

puntDNAL K13 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 34.32
2 SW_Europe 24.23
3 SW_Asia 10.9
4 NE_Europe 8.77
5 NE_Asia 8.1
6 Siberia 7.42
7 South_Asia 4.61
8 Americas 1.15
9 Oceania 0.37
10 West_Africa 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish_Aydin 7.39
2 Turkish_Kayseri 8.62
3 Turkish 9.39
4 Balkar 9.85
5 Azerbaijan_Azeri 10.22
6 Ossetian 12.52
7 Kumyk 12.58
8 Nogay 12.95
9 Dagestan_Azeri 13.42
10 Abkhasian 15.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

84.5% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 15.5% Altaian @ 4.72

[Hudayar]

K36

Population
Amerindian 0.05
Arabian -
Armenian 6.87
Basque 1.39
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian 1.30
East_Balkan 4.55
East_Central_Asian 4.83
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 10.73
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian 2.05
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.37
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 9.18
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 15.91
North_Sea 0.84
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.11
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 6.71
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 11.98
South_Chinese 1.23
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 11.89
West_Med -

here's your k36 similarity map
https://i.hizliresim.com/vJpzP6.png

[Turul Karom]

Congratulations on receiving your results, my friend! A true grandchild of Asena and brother of Huns!

http://galeri12.uludagsozluk.com/577/kurultaj_676089.jpg

[Pahli]

here's your k36 similarity map
https://i.hizliresim.com/vJpzP6.png

Hmm, still quite similar to North Iraqi Kurds and Iranians too :)

[Porn Master]

ok nice, and post your photo too

[Hudayar]

Hmm, still quite similar to North Iraqi Kurds and Iranians too :)

According to OP he's 100% from Giresun. We need Greek/Armenian samples from Giresun to compare, because in one chart that i saw Turks from Trabzon had almost no Asian dna yet their Iranian DNA was a lot.

[Böri]

ok nice, and post your photo too

Huh midget. Now that I think you were calling me deluded MENA for I shared Kumyk, Karachay song videos ;)

[Hudayar]

According to OP he's 100% from Giresun. We need Greek/Armenian samples from Giresun to compare, because in one chart that i saw Turks from Trabzon had almost no Asian dna yet their Iranian DNA was a lot.






SE_ASIAN

ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC

CHG_EEF

POLAR

EHG

SUB_SAHARAN

IRAN_NEOLITHIC

KARITIANA

ANCESTRAL_INDIAN

NATUFIAN

SIBERIAN

PAPUAN

SHG_WHG



Giresun sample

6.43

6.05

28.57

1.50

5.50

0

23.50

1.11

2.57

13.11

9.74

0

1.92



Turkish_Trabzon

0.80

16.32

30.33

0.90

0.80

0

33.53

0.30

0

15.12

0.80

0.60

0.50







SE_ASIAN

ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC

CHG_EEF

POLAR

EHG

SUB_SAHARAN

IRAN_NEOLITHIC

KARITIANA

ANCESTRAL_INDIAN

NATUFIAN

SIBERIAN

PAPUAN

SHG_WHG



Giresun sample

6.43

6.05

28.57

1.50

5.50

0

23.50

1.11

2.57

13.11

9.74

0

1.92



Turkish

3.20

14.09

29.67

1.50

5.79

0.10

21.48

0.90

0.60

12.29

6.19

0.30

3.90




Turkish_Balıkesir

5.08

13.96

30.11

0.50

4.49

0.30

22.23

0.70

0.70

9.37

8.28

0.70

3.59



Turkish_Kayseri

2.80

13.61

29.67

0.80

3.80

0

27.63

0.40

1.50

15.92

4.10

0.40

2.00



Turkish_Istanbul

3.30

13.50

32.20

0.60

6.30

0.10

21.90

0.60

2.00

11.80

3.60

0.40

3.70



Turkish_Trabzon

0.80

16.32

30.33

0.90

0.80

0

33.53

0.30

0

15.12

0.80

0.60

0.50



Turkish_Aydın

4.70

12.70

28.20

0.70

3.80

0.40

22.90

1.10

0.70

11.90

9.10

0.50

3.30



Turkmen

11.30

4.80

17.60

1.90

8.70

0.20

21.20

0.50

6.50

7.50

16.90

0.70

2.20

[Hudayar]

BTW Çorpan could you please post your Near East Neolithic K13 Admixture results? I want to compare them to Giresun sample.

[Porn Master]

Huh midget. Now that I think you were calling me deluded MENA for I shared Kumyk, Karachay song videos ;)




don't derail my post, just post your MENA mug or shut up. No one cares about genes in real life, only on TA this retard autistic shit is popular

[Böri]

Near East Neolithic K13

# Population Percent
1 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 27.72
2 CHG_EEF 22.61
3 NATUFIAN 11.17
4 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 11.02
5 SIBERIAN 8.33
6 EHG 6.33
7 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 5.6
8 SE_ASIAN 3.08
9 SHG_WHG 2
10 PAPUAN 1.15
11 POLAR 0.74
12 SUB_SAHARAN 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri 8.28
2 Turkish_Kayseri 8.94
3 Turkish_Aydin 9.03
4 Turkish_Adana 9.82
5 Turkish_Balekesir 10.67
6 Turkish 10.81
7 Iranian 11.72
8 Balkar 11.83
9 Turkish_Istanbul 12.18
10 Kumyk 13.38

[Böri]

So now to summarise, I am in the west Anatolia cluster.
Closest to Aydın Turks (Aegean coast). However the native element from east Black sea drags me (compared to Aydınians) more toward Iranian plateau and Caucasus.
After Anatolian Turks which I am variant of, I am closest to Turkic north Caucasians, Azerbaijanis and Turkmenians.

[Hudayar]

Here i compared your results to other Turks






SE_ASIAN

ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC

CHG_EEF

POLAR

EHG

SUB_SAHARAN

IRAN_NEOLITHIC

KARITIANA

ANCESTRAL_INDIAN

NATUFIAN

SIBERIAN

PAPUAN

SHG_WHG



Giresun sample

6.43

6.05

28.57

1.50

5.50

0

23.50

1.11

2.57

13.11

9.74

0

1.92



Çorpan Tarkan

3.08

11.02

22.61

0.74

6.33

0.25

27.72

0

5.6

11.17

8.33

1.15

2



Turkish_Trabzon

0.80

16.32

30.33

0.90

0.80

0

33.53

0.30

0

15.12

0.80

0.60

0.50







SE_ASIAN

ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC

CHG_EEF

POLAR

EHG

SUB_SAHARAN

IRAN_NEOLITHIC

KARITIANA

ANCESTRAL_INDIAN

NATUFIAN

SIBERIAN

PAPUAN

SHG_WHG



Giresun sample

6.43

6.05

28.57

1.50

5.50

0

23.50

1.11

2.57

13.11

9.74

0

1.92



Çorpan Tarkan

3.08

11.02

22.61

0.74

6.33

0.25

27.72

0

5.6

11.17

8.33

1.15

2



Turkish

3.20

14.09

29.67

1.50

5.79

0.10

21.48

0.90

0.60

12.29

6.19

0.30

3.90




Turkish_Balıkesir

5.08

13.96

30.11

0.50

4.49

0.30

22.23

0.70

0.70

9.37

8.28

0.70

3.59



Turkish_Kayseri

2.80

13.61

29.67

0.80

3.80

0

27.63

0.40

1.50

15.92

4.10

0.40

2.00



Turkish_Istanbul

3.30

13.50

32.20

0.60

6.30

0.10

21.90

0.60

2.00

11.80

3.60

0.40

3.70



Turkish_Trabzon

0.80

16.32

30.33

0.90

0.80

0

33.53

0.30

0

15.12

0.80

0.60

0.50



Turkish_Aydın

4.70

12.70

28.20

0.70

3.80

0.40

22.90

1.10

0.70

11.90

9.10

0.50

3.30



Turkmen

11.30

4.80

17.60

1.90

8.70

0.20

21.20

0.50

6.50

7.50

16.90

0.70

2.20

[Hudayar]

So now to summarise, I am in the west Anatolia cluster.
Closest to Aydın Turks (Aegean coast). However the native element drags me (compared to Aydınians) more toward Iranian plateau and Caucasus.
After Anatolian Turks which I am variant of, I am closest to Turkic north Caucasians, Azerbaijanis and Turkmenians.

For some reasons most Turks are close to Turks from Aydın. When i posted a Guy's results from SouthEastern Anatolia he was also close to Turks from Aydın.

That's because, i think, Turks from Aydın have the purest sample hence Turks who normally score above 10% are close to them. Other samples have Kurds and Arabs in it i guess. If the calculators had samples from Giresun you'd be close to that sample instead of Aydın imo.

[Pahli]

I see he has double the amount of South Indian compared to the Giresun sample, I think it might be East Iranian related since they actually had quite a lot and that's where the Turkmens got it from. Even his EHG and WHG are slightly higher than the others.

[meisje]

don't derail my post, just post your MENA mug or shut up. No one cares about genes in real life, only on TA this retard autistic shit is popular

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[Porn Master]

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[Porn Master]

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[meisje]

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[Porn Master]

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remove kebab, drop a nuclear on your head bomb and solve the problem xD you stinky turd

[Pahli]

Lol

[RN97]

Huh midget. Now that I think you were calling me deluded MENA for I shared Kumyk, Karachay song videos ;)

> Turkic nationalist
> Uses midget as a insult
k, m8

[Fedora]

I heard that people from Giresun ususually are more central asia shifted but you plot with anatolian turks. Interesting how different people from Trabzon score compared to Giresun. From which district are you ? I guess northern Giresun.

[Böri]

I heard that people from Giresun ususually are more central asia shifted but you plot with anatolian turks. Interesting how different people from Trabzon score compared to Giresun. From which district are you ? I guess northern Giresun.

Yup coastal region. I have also lines from far west Trabzon.
Plot somewhere between Aydın and Muğla (same level East Eurasian) and Kayseri (same level Gedrosia). Closer to Aydın wholly and with most calculators.

[Fedora]

Yup coastal region. I have also lines from far west Trabzon.
I'm curious how people from Sebinkarahisar would score. Orda eskiden ermeni rumlar cogunlukdu.

[Turkminator]

Aferin Temel! What is your haplogroup? And why did you edit the regional results on the left in the picture? That would be interesting.

[Turkminator]

I will do this evening an FTDNA test too. Let's see what difference I discover to 23andme.

[Böri]

Aferin Temel! What is your haplogroup? And why did you edit the regional results on the left in the picture? That would be interesting.

Didnt get hap test yet hewal.

[Turkminator]

Didnt get hap test yet hewal.

Well, your autosomal looks very monotonous. I would have expected more distribution. I'm sure I'll get a lot of Nordic.

[Kelmendasi]

Well, your autosomal looks very monotonous. I would have expected more distribution. I'm sure I'll get a lot of Nordic.
Why?

[Babak]

Why?

Hes half german

[Kelmendasi]

Hes half german
Really?

[Babak]

Really?

nvm i thought it was armenian bishop lol ignore me

[Turkminator]

Why?

Because I already had an affinity to some Nord on my 23andme test. For whatever reason. I'm sure my map will look more colorful with a strong Mediterranean and Asian component.

[Kelmendasi]

Because I already had an affinity to some Nord on my 23andme test. For whatever reason. I'm sure my map will look more colorful with a strong Mediterranean and Asian component.
Do you mean you had a Nordic/Scandinavian match or you had admix?

[Turkminator]

Do you mean you had a Nordic/Scandinavian match or you had admix?

Admix.

[Kelmendasi]

Admix.
How much?

[Turkminator]

How much?

I guess, it will be around ~10 %.

[Böri]

Because I already had an affinity to some Nord on my 23andme test. For whatever reason. I'm sure my map will look more colorful with a strong Mediterranean and Asian component.

If you are from Levant area as you claimed that’s difficult with Syrian-like natives around. However if you are sort of Crimean or Nogay (as you pretended other times) that’s possible. In my case were it not for strong Turkoman blood presence, I’d get 1 Armenians 2 Georgian Jew, 3 Assyrians in the top 3 matching lists like people from the region does.
The Turkoman blood puts me in Western Turkey cluster.

[Turkminator]

If you are from Levant area as you claimed that’s difficult with Syrian-like natives around. However if you are sort of Crimean or Nogay (as you pretended other times) that’s possible. In my case were it not for strong Turkoman blood presence, I’d get 1 Armenians 2 Georgian Jew, 3 Assyrians in the top 3 matching lists like people from the region does.
The Turkoman blood puts me in Western Turkey cluster.

Hewal, look at your K23b results. You show an affinity for several Kurds. I do not have a single Kurd on K23b. Your haplogroup should be much more interesting. Nevertheless, I officially appoint you to a Turk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaI1QNEmQbE

[Böri]

Hewal, look at your K23b results. You show an affinity for several Kurds. I do not have a single Kurd on K23b. Your haplogroup should be much more interesting. Nevertheless, I officially appoint you to a Turk.


Some Turks here on TA were pretending you are Demhat the Kurd, now I am suspicious too :)

In my match lists Ftdna sent me there are over 20 people all from Turkey. Mostly from the region and western Turkey. Foreigners are rare and 5th grade.

I get Kurds simply because we have similar main components like CHG or West Asian. I also expected it before taking the test considering where I am from. So seeing Kurds didn't shock me or so.
That's not a problem, results are like what I expected.Kurds are distant in my list like distance 14 to 18 in most calculators. And I get Kumyks and Nogays before Kurds.
And I am closest to Turks from Aegean coast (Aydın) in almost all calculators with affinities to Turk_Kayseri (Central Anatolia).


Anyway it's time you decide what you are yourself. Turkic North Caucasian of Karachay Kypchak type with Nord affinities, or a genetically 80% Levantine-like person from S-E Turkey.

[Leto]

What do you have on Dodecad K12b?

[Böri]

What do you have on Dodecad K12b?

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.28
2 Gedrosia 15.44
3 Atlantic_Med 10.81
4 North_European 8.42
5 East_Asian 8.13
6 Siberian 7.58
7 Southwest_Asian 6.95
8 South_Asian 2.31
9 Northwest_African 0.7
10 Southeast_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks (Behar) 9.95
2 Turkish (Dodecad) 10.62
3 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.83
4 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 15.98
5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.37
6 Iranian (Dodecad) 17.43
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 17.83
8 Kurd (Dodecad) 17.84
9 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 18.36
10 Iranians (Behar) 20.2
11 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.56
12 Armenian (Dodecad) 20.7
13 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 20.7
14 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 20.7
15 Lebanese (Behar) 21.11
16 Assyrian (Dodecad) 21.35
17 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 22.18
18 Armenians (Behar) 22.21
19 Cypriots (Behar) 22.34
20 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 22.64

[Leto]

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.28
2 Gedrosia 15.44
3 Atlantic_Med 10.81
4 North_European 8.42
5 East_Asian 8.13
6 Siberian 7.58
7 Southwest_Asian 6.95
8 South_Asian 2.31
9 Northwest_African 0.7
10 Southeast_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks (Behar) 9.95
2 Turkish (Dodecad) 10.62
3 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.83
4 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 15.98
5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.37
6 Iranian (Dodecad) 17.43
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 17.83
8 Kurd (Dodecad) 17.84
9 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 18.36
10 Iranians (Behar) 20.2
11 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.56
12 Armenian (Dodecad) 20.7
13 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 20.7
14 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 20.7
15 Lebanese (Behar) 21.11
16 Assyrian (Dodecad) 21.35
17 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 22.18
18 Armenians (Behar) 22.21
19 Cypriots (Behar) 22.34
20 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 22.64
Interesting. You are more East Asian than Siberian, which means your Mongoloid part is kind of Mongolian-like. Compare with this Kyrgyz:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 37.09
2 Siberian 28.22
3 North_European 9.24
4 Caucasus 8.75
5 Gedrosia 7.26
6 Southeast_Asian 3.93
7 Atlantic_Med 3.27
8 South_Asian 1.31
9 Southwest_Asian 0.67
10 Northwest_African 0.24
11 East_African 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mongol (Rasmussen) 13.35
2 Altai (Rasmussen) 16.58
3 Hazara (HGDP) 19.36
4 Uygur (HGDP) 20.19
5 Uzbeks (Behar) 23.14
6 Buryat (Rasmussen) 24.95
7 Tuva (Rasmussen) 26.33
8 Oroqen (HGDP) 26.97
9 Daur (HGDP) 32.71
10 Hezhen (HGDP) 34.52
11 Mongola (HGDP) 35.39
12 Xibo (HGDP) 37.45
13 Tu (HGDP) 41.42
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 42.71
15 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 46.78
16 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 47.43
17 Naxi (HGDP) 47.48
18 Yizu (HGDP) 48
19 Burmanese (Chaubey) 48.07
20 Garo (Chaubey) 48.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.9% Uzbeks (Behar) + 46.1% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 3.79
2 64.4% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 35.6% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.62
3 61.2% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 38.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.83
4 55.5% Uygur (HGDP) + 44.5% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 4.91
5 77.4% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 22.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 5.06
6 82.1% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 17.9% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.22
7 83.6% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 16.4% Lezgins (Behar) @ 5.34
8 83.7% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 16.3% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.42
9 79.3% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 20.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.53
10 83.3% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 16.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.67
11 84.2% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 15.8% Adygei (HGDP) @ 5.79
12 83.4% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 16.6% Romanians (Behar) @ 5.8
13 57.7% Uygur (HGDP) + 42.3% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 5.84
14 83.5% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 16.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.9
15 82.7% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 17.3% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.96
16 82.6% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 17.4% Turks (Behar) @ 5.96
17 83.8% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 16.2% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 6.01
18 83.9% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 16.1% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 6.03
19 79.8% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 20.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.06
20 83.7% Mongol (Rasmussen) + 16.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 6.13

[Böri]

Interesting. You are more East Asian than Siberian, which means your Mongoloid part is kind of Mongolian-like. Compare with this Kyrgyz:



Yeah tho that depends on calculator. Some give more Siberian too. Like Eurogenes.
K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 33.39
2 East_Med 22.45
3 West_Med 11.19
4 Siberian 9.81
5 North_Atlantic 7.55
6 East_Asian 5.03
7 South_Asian 4.67
8 Baltic 3.1
9 Red_Sea 1.25
10 Amerindian 1.05
11 Oceanian 0.51

K10
South Asian 5.73
Caucasus 45.60
Southwest Asian 7.14
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.24
Siberian 7.96
Mediterranean 15.58
East Asian 7.14
East European 2.85
North Atlantic 7.77

[Leto]

Yeah tho that depends on calculator. Some give more Siberian too. Like Eurogenes.
K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 33.39
2 East_Med 22.45
3 West_Med 11.19
4 Siberian 9.81
5 North_Atlantic 7.55
6 East_Asian 5.03
7 South_Asian 4.67
8 Baltic 3.1
9 Red_Sea 1.25
10 Amerindian 1.05
11 Oceanian 0.51

K10
South Asian 5.73
Caucasus 45.60
Southwest Asian 7.14
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.24
Siberian 7.96
Mediterranean 15.58
East Asian 7.14
East European 2.85
North Atlantic 7.77
On K13 the Kyrgyz is also more Siberian than EA.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 40.63
2 East_Asian 26.15
3 West_Asian 10.97
4 Baltic 5.29
5 North_Atlantic 4.72
6 East_Med 4.3
7 West_Med 3.19
8 South_Asian 2.53
9 Amerindian 2.04
10 Oceanian 0.11
11 Northeast_African 0.08

My explanation is that Dodecad breaks down the Mongoloid into Siberian, East Asian and Southeast Asian, while Eurogenes apparently includes a lot of Northeast Asian into the Siberian cluster. For example, an average Japanese is around 30% Siberian on K13.
Run this Japanese if you want, they are the purest Northeast Asians
M655035

[Leto]

By the way, you score a very high amount of Mongoloid for Turkey - over 15%. Is it noticeable in any way in your appearance?

[Böri]

On K13 the Kyrgyz is also more Siberian than EA.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 40.63
2 East_Asian 26.15
3 West_Asian 10.97
4 Baltic 5.29
5 North_Atlantic 4.72
6 East_Med 4.3
7 West_Med 3.19
8 South_Asian 2.53
9 Amerindian 2.04
10 Oceanian 0.11
11 Northeast_African 0.08

My explanation is that Dodecad breaks down the Mongoloid into Siberian, East Asian and Southeast Asian, while Eurogenes apparently includes a lot of Northeast Asian into the Siberian cluster. For example, an average Japanese is around 30% Siberian on K13.
Run this Japanese if you want, they are the purest Northeast Asians
M655035

I check now. Dodecad K12 and Harappa give East Asian inch higher than Siberian. Different Eurogenes calculators, Dodecad k7 puntDNAL, World9 etc give Siberian higher. They must be close.


By the way, you score a very high amount of Mongoloid for Turkey - over 15%. Is it noticeable in any way in your appearance?

Coastal Turks from Aegean, Med and parts of Black Sea are similar to me in that percentage. In interior regions that drops. The look I am Turanid mixed. I wouldn't stick out inside groups of Turkmens, Crimean Tatars etc noticeably though somewhat different.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

How high is your regional breakdown in East Asian (+Yakutsk region) ?

[Leto]

Interestingly, the South Asian of Eurogenes is literally halved on Dodecad:

South_Asian 4.67
South_Asian 2.31

[Böri]

How high is your regional breakdown in East Asian (+Yakutsk region) ?

Roughly fifty-fifty in that region. Some calculators give me in two population approximation like 90% Turkish east central Anatolia (region with lesser Siberian + NE Asian and higher SW Asian and East Med) + 10% Yakut or Altaian.

[Kouros]

Pretty close to Lebanese nice

[Böri]

Pretty close to Lebanese nice

Not really. SW Asian (Arabian peninsula component) is like 6,95% in me which is lesser than even Balkan folks despite I am geographically very close to ME even having territorial continuity. You Greeks are more similar with Levantine populations than I do. Btw there is no problem with it or whatsovea.